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Why does this type of thread always get started. At some point people have to accept visiting with a SP is not requirement to life but simply a nice thing to do. Maybe that is way people refer to it as a hobby. It is not a fundamental need like food or shelter. That means if you want to partake the the lovely experience then you have to save up, just like the did in the bad old days when interest rates were high and borrowing was not so easy to do. People need to stop asking for student rates, seniors discounts, "being a hot stud" discount. If you don't have the money, save it up. That is what I do and that's why no SP is ever going to retire based solely on my visits with them. One interesting thing is that if you actually start saving and seeing SPs, sometimes if you build up a good rapport and see them regularly - you may actually get some "discounts". Nothing extreme, may be you will get a little longer time or they will make an effort to see you on short notice. Sometimes you might actually get a cupcake or cookies. Stop asking for discounts. If you can't afford this l luxury then save up or take up another hobby. Sorry about the rant. I'm just getting tired of all the postings I see here and on TERB complaining about prices.

This probably should be in the Highlight Of The Day thread but it's a biggie. I was informed by my doc today that I no longer have cancer. The pathology report following my surgery showed that there was cancer in 20% of my prostate but the margins were clear. The blood test I did last week returned a PSA value of 0.0. And that all translates into Bingo, we have a winner! There will be future periodic PSA tests to ensure that all stays good but for now, I'm going to enjoy practicing saying "I do not have cancer." Happy Dances for everyone! On the house!

A few reasons why trying to negotiate a rate with an sp is a bad idea: 1) It's dehumanizing. Sure, it's a business transaction in a capitalist society, but do you really want to associate that with intimacy? You think it's a good idea to try to lower a provider's self-valuation? That's a real life, living, breathing human you're dealing with, are you sure you want to try to tell her what you think she's worth, the same way you would when buying something on kijiji? It's difficult to imagine that anyone who thinks that way has much respect for the other person 2) It's tacky. Negotiating in any environment where the price is made clear is never a good look. Have you ever seen that guy in Best Buy trying to barter with a minimum wage employee over the price of a television? Nobody likes that guy 3) It's a fantasy breaker. I realize not everyone is like me, but I think the fantasy element of this hobby is a really big deal, and nothing ruins an illusion quite like haggling. Anything intimate or romantic you say will ring as painfully insincere when your first contact is focused on cost. Just my take, not meaning to hang anyone out to dry, just trying to point out what others might not see as obvious.

Escorting is a business. Businesses don't offer student rates because it's "a nice gesture". They offer them because there's profit in offering them, either in the short term or the long term. Most businesses that offer student discounts (fast food outlets, movie theatres etc) are able to serve multiple clients simultaneously and increase volume without any decrease in service quality or increase in overhead costs. Increasing their volume of sales more than offsets the price discount. Another common category of student discount is on products and services which are in demand by all students and there is competition by vendors for a larger share, and therefore profit, of the student market (computers and software). Finally discounts to recent graduates are also a form of student discount and are usually used to establish brand loyalty for products (cars) which will produce ongoing sales for decades into the future. I can't think of any way in which these marketing approaches to students will increase profit for an escort. If there was a business case for student discounts, I think "the world's oldest profession" would have figured it by now ;-)

Maybe so but remember that this business is an intimate one that is hardly comparable to any other type of service and first impressions are long lasting. Every business has a target market. 20 something guys aren't my target market. Yes, the business will always evolve but being polite and courteous are two qualities that good prospective clients will have and will ALWAYS be sought out by women in this business. Asking for a discount is not one of them and age doesn't excuse that fact either.

No one likes dealing with a shitty customer, so why are you making excuses for one? It's really simple: do not ask for discounts EXCEPT SOLELY IN CASES WHERE IT IS CLEARLY ADVERTISED. If you don't see it advertised in a companion's ad or website, don't ask. Pretty easy. Since grocery related analogies are your thing, here's one for ya: Grocery stores do price-matching if another store has a special on. Companions don't. Capisce? Good.

Offering any discount or special, in the long-term is bad for our business. 1. It implies you're not doing well. 2. The clients who paid the special rate won't pay the full rate, so any increase in clients is temporary. 3. The lower your rate the more clients you have to see to pay your bills, which means you burn out faster.

One thing to remember however, this site does have a rule about ladies who advertise on this site. So unless the lady specifically states she is open to negotiating, lyla members are not allowed to negotiate their rates. See this post if you haven't read it already. https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=495149&postcount=343

Most ladies answer that question in their websites already, with the general comment, "no negotiating my rates" So a prospective client asking to negotiate her rate, under the guise of a student discount, doesn't even do the lady the basic courtesy of reading her website. Ladies don't mind answering questions that may not be covered in their websites, but getting asked a question already covered in their websites must be annoying. If a client (including student) sees a lady's website, sees her rates are too much for his budget don't waste her time by trying to haggle under the guise of being a student. Ladies care if the prospective client is a gentlemen, not if he is a student. A rambling RG

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It might not seem much to you guys but today I managed to install an air conditioner at home on my own. Had never done this before, and as a petite lady, it was not obvious at all for me. Had to fight with the big hose a bit though (no pun intended ;-) And it seems to be working because... I am cold now! Proud, but cold. Ah ah.

Some folks have no qualms about giving me their full names, that's a silly notion that we can't be trusted for discretion with your information. As has been said previously, plenty of students and lower-income people see providers. They don't ask for discounts, they save up for the occasion. Either find someone within your budget, or save up for a session. I'm a student, if being so entitles you to lower prices, then should I (reversely) raise my rates because of my situation?

To start off, how would we know whether you're actually a student and not some regular Joe just looking for a discount? Yes I'm sure we could ask to see student ID, but it's a lot of hassle for us making less. Should we also have discounts for those who don't make all that much, or discounts at the beginning of the month since guys just paid their rent and now they're short on cash but they would reeeally like to meet us. There is an abundance of ladies of all shapes, sizes, and most importantly, different prices. As a student you should have no issue to find someone within your budget. If there is a particular SP you wish to meet and she is above your budget, then since this is a luxury service, you should save up until you have enough to meet. Everyone's lives and finances are different, and not everyone can afford to take part in this lifestyle, but no SP should have to make less because you are a student. If we started making specials dedicated to one group of people, then we'd have to start for them all and then we'd get no where. SP's do have specials every once in a while, so if you have your eye on someone in particular than watch her ads to see if one gets offered. Otherwise, look for someone who is already within your budget and have fun :) Posted via Mobile Device

Enjoying a beautiful day full of sunshine, butterflies, flowers and doggy kisses. I'm in Heaven!! :)

Getting reacquainted with Lyla after a brief Hiatus ~ happy to be back in the "loop"! :)

In my past experiences of doing outcalls, I always asked to take a shower regardless of whether or not if I had an appointment. Sometimes if it was late and I wasn't going anywhere else, I just wanted to go home and take my own shower. It's been a long time since I did back to back on an out but if I had to go somewhere else, a shower was always a must. I no longer visit other locations and like the fact that I'm at my own location and they come to visit me. I am always fresh! lol

"It's what some people want, when they want it and they want it now! There is a new generation of clients stepping forward in this industry but there are certainly self entitlement issues going on there that I do not see with more mature gentlemen" This is the way of world now, ask any employer out there and if they are of the older demographic and they will bemoan the same issues. Whether it be smart phones in the work place, dress codes or employee expectations they've had to adapt or have no staff. This game parallels where society is at and where it's going. Golf is a dieing industry because the youngins have no interest in taking 4 hours to do any thing. It's all about the moment not moments. BP is the classic example where it's an ad and cell phone stating texting preferred and it's about that day not next week or next month, it's today. So it's not only clients but providers as well. There will be a want and need for a different kind of service but as the older demo starts to disappear a new order will be much more the norm. One can never go backward only forward and all businesses have to ultimately adapt or die. Peace MG

I believe there is a strong correlation with social media and instant gratification with today's younger generation. I'm old school. In my day, we were taught to respect people and that asking for something in any given situation that wasn't being offered was considered very ignorant and rude. And if you did do such a thing, well the consequences were definitely not a good outcome. Nowadays, it seems as though none of this applies. I really do think advancements in technology have changed the way we converse with people. Everyone wants to text now and sometimes even getting a customer to phone to give location details can be like pulling teeth. I suppose the same can be applied with expecting discounts. Being good looking, young or hung do not pay my bills. How is that supposed to help with my quality of life or my business or anything else for that matter? I'm offering a service, not looking for a boyfriend so none of the above apply in this situation. I do not discriminate when it comes to a person's looks in my business. Being polite and hygienic are the two most significant characteristics an escort will look for. It's what some people want, when they want it and they want it now! There is a new generation of clients stepping forward in this industry but there are certainly self entitlement issues going on there that I do not see with more mature gentlemen.

The ladies I see I trust far more than many so called legitimate businesses with my name and other personal info. No hesitation to provide personal info to ladies. But some businesses, hell I still get contacted by Bell Canada, even after leaving them eight years ago, offers from credit card companies that I left, offers for life insurance etc etc etc. They get my name, address and phone number from other companies I've dealt with and had to provide my personal info to But ladies, the information provided has been between just them and me, and only passed along at my request (such as a reference) Ladies don't deserve being stereotyped as untrustworthy. But mainstream businesses, there are far more examples of mistrustful behaviour with them. Many do pass your personal information around. RG

I don't go to homes but also will not shower at a clients hotel...I once had a dude take the money back while i was in the shower so never again. I also don't do back to back appointments..even when traveling I need 2 hrs between clients. I want to freshen up,unwind and prepare for the next guy. Some guys think that we are on our backs all day waiting for the next call. ..it's not so..we have a real life outside the biz. Most indies only see a couple of guys a day..sometimes only one. That's why we are indies..we work when we want and see who we want.

What do I think? No. Plain, simple no. I'm not offering an explanation. Just no. When I was in Ottawa I would occasionally get asked for a student discount. I don't have time for that nonsense and just hang up on them. That entitled crap is right up there with "I'm a really good looking guy so I should get a discount/visit for free". (and yes, us ladies get guys saying that to us) *rolls eyes* You want to enjoy my company, you pay the rate. Thinking you're an exception is a quick way to get yourself on my "do not see" list. There are plenty of gents out there who are humble, polite and don't ask for a discount under any pretense, and those are the gentlemen I accept as clients, not the silly boys who think they can haggle my rates. And I am far from the only SP who feels this way, as evidenced by the other comments in this thread.

Learn to budget. I have clients who live on disability and they still pay my full rate. I also wanted to add that offering you a discount is insulting to every client who pays the full rate.

Let's add senior rates, single parent rates, new graduate rates, first time car buyers, first timers and so forth. As providers, we are asked all the time for this. Doesn't go over very well. Find someone in your price range. I've always said why would I give a discount when my regulars pay my rate AND give a tip.

Not sure this has been mentioned. Duing my last visit at one of the satellite walk-in clinics for my regular tests, the nurse told me - Effective May 11th, 2015 drop-in services available to youth aged 29 and under. http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/public-health/sexual-health/sexual-health-centre For anyone else, the only clinic open for these walk-in tests will be at the main clinic at 179 Clarence Street. It's no big deal, but I am more familiar with my regular walk-in clinic.

Have you ever been to any university parties?? These kids blow money!! Parents pay tuition to very expensive universities and they also have women coming out of their ears!! Don't fall for the "I'm poor syndrome" They have money!!! This thread is a joke!!

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Good afternoon, Thank you for a lovely time back in Toronto, it was wonderful to be back and enjoy the warm hospitality. I look forward to seeing you soon xoxo Emily

I am sure you had only the best intentions, but that first part where you generalize that the sp's are being a little bit bitchy is not going to make you many friends. Also, comparing a service provider to groceries probably isn't going to open a lot of doors for you either. I understand that it may seem like a harmless question, but questioning the value of intimacy with a woman is slightly different from people not being able to find the rotisserie chicken.

There's something about Amelia Fox....not quite sure what it is, but she's caught my attention :) Another view: Thanks, Amelia!

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One thing is for sure, when you both decide on which lady to see, your wife should be the one calling the lady you both chose. I know that ladies here will be a bit afraid to get into this unless she speaks with your wife first. Sorry I can't make a recommendation for you on choosing the right lady for you !

"Are you available mow?" Okay, first of all, auto text is supposed to be a person's friend. Secondly, let me just teleport myself as I snap my fingers in two shakes of a lamb's tail. A silly question from a person who has no idea where they are going or how to get there. Technically it is impossible to "be available NOW" especially when the escort has never met the person before.

It's been many months since I had seen Violet. She had not been advertising for a while. I text her to see if she was still around. She text back that she was and I booked her for a noon session. When she opened the door this afternoon, I was greeted by a sexy looking Violet in a sexy outfit. She immediately gave me a hug and kiss. We went back and spent a few minutes catching up. I took a quick shower and returned to chat a bit more. We started kissing and she is a very passionate kisser. Things got a bit more passionate and fun. Everything was great as usual. Things are always better once you get to know each other and can relax around each other. She is a very beautiful and sexy girl with a great smile. Easy on the eye's and eager to please. I plan on seeing her many more times. She is planning to join Lyla.com once she has overcome some technical difficulties. More information on how to contact her can be found on her website, just google 'wild violet escort'. She only see's a select few clients a day and has many regulars. There's a reason why many return. If you see her, tell her Someguy sent you :)

Congrats on the freash start Barbie. Its refreshing to have someone be so forth coming. I am sure it will make a differance to many who may have been hesitant to book. Additional Comments: I think it's equally important to mention thanks to elias902. We use these threads to gain information to better insure we are meeting safe people and that the info given is a good representation of what is offered. It's unfair to ask others to share their experiences/provide info, only to make them feel like they are being racked over the coals when they do. This is a selfish post as I often use info from these threads to aid in my booking decisions. However, no one statement will make or break it for me. After all experiences and expectations varry. So lets save the conjecture and keep these boards a safe and open to communication. Also remeber, issues can also be delt with by private PM. Or, send the prossional in question a copy of the link they are mentioned in. They can then clarify on the thread if they choose to. (As it worked with this situation) These ladies are more then able to stand up for them selves, as are requlars who vist them often. Cheers, -J

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Agreed! Great advices. Just want to add: after you've made initial contact by email, you may want to speak with the lady prior to the date. (Good way to break the ice with no pressure). I've been told that my voice is sexy and warm and makes a gent feel comfortable. ;) So a few mins call never hurt. Is she warm and welcoming ? Does she sound genuine and interesting ? Are you 'feeling her' ? Do your homework and don't forget to trust your intuition. Personally, I like to have an idea of who I'm meeting. So I might suggest a little chat over the phone to hear your voice, get to know you a bit, feel the chemistry and decide whether or not this will go further (depending on the level of comfort). Again, just a tip...

A brand new camera! Summer's on its way, time to capture timeless souvenirs in summer dress and a glass of wine, sharing great times, laughs, flirts and...smooth legs ;)

Time for a road trip

If that's your experience then perhaps you are meeting the wrong providers. I know many who limit the number of clients, don't book back to back and allow time so they are not rushed. Who enjoy the time spent learning about someone and making the connection. If you are finding those who cannot remove their cell from the encounter, it may be time to adjust who and what you're looking for and do more research. It's sad that you question quality time.

My highlight is having spent a wonderful day with people I love and then crying a bit with happiness after seeing one of the persons I love the most smile, it's been a while since that happened so it really is a highlight of like forever more than of the day and the day isn't even over yet! :)

May 30 - joined 1,500 motorcycles and their riders/passengers in the 15th annual Ottawa Motorcycle Ride for Dad, raising funds for the fight against prostate cancer. It was an awesome day!! CM

Please don't ask me if I'm single and hint that if we get along maybe I'd consider a relationship with you. Especially when you haven't even met me yet!

So a lady gets contacted by a gentlemen for a date and he can pay her full donation and she gets contacted by a student for a date on the same time/date but he wants a student discount Hmmm who do you think the lady will see for a date Nice gesture...for whom, certainly not for the lady. She's getting shortchanged and this is her livelihood, pays her bills, rent, car payment etc...maybe even her tuition, yes she could be a student too Remember, this is a luxury lifestyle not a necessity. If you can't afford to see a companion, then don't...but don't negotiate, even under the guise of a student discount RG

Thank you for accepting my apologies I hope we can start over and make our encounter even more amazing then our first xo barbie

Well Barbie, its nice to see you have been doing better and have joined Lyla. I have sent you a PM ;) Additional Comments: Looks like ill be seeing her today :)

Talk to you wife about what you both are looking out of this. Ask her what she wants and what will make her feel more secure in finding someone. Then do a lot f research. Look at the ads, read the reviews, and then message some ladies to see if there is any compatibility. Good luck and happy hunting to both of you!!!! Pk Additional Comments: Sorry for the spelling. My fat fingers tend to mash the ipad buttons quite often.

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It's almost certainly been mentioned here before, but it's been happening so much lately, and it's a definite turn-off. Men who see me, we have a great time together, and then afterwards try and convince me to see them off the clock later, and then try and make me feel bad when I obviously decline. I just find that disrespectful..unless the lady has explicitly discussed with you that she would like to see you in her free time, you shouldn't try and convince her to, and then shame her when she says no. Nothing's more of a turn-on then a man who is respectful of the relationship you both have in the time you meet, and never makes you feel bad about it ;) Posted via Mobile Device