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I will reemphisize that a big goal of the social group is to protect providers at massage locations. Loose lips on here has driven providers away. I like to see some empathy to keeping the info low key on this more public part of the site. I still see posting almost full names of establishments and part addresses. For massage section the providers are not in a position to protect them selves and their identity the way escorts can. This puts them at significant risk to public attention that is not wanted if we share their information too freely. To many newbies come on here and want all the information RFN. Sorry. You have to learn to read between the lines connect the dots and be patient. like learning to be a Jedi If you get it handed to you on a platter on here everyone else can see It too. And if we let everyone who asks into the more private group right away well then the information is just as public We might as well walk out of the establishment and walk up and down the closest residential street knock on every door and tell the inhabitants about the massage we got from Jane Doe down the street was. And especially how good the release at the end is. Not the kind of attention our providers wanted. So be patient. Contribute where you can.

There are probably a lot of answers to this problem on here already, but I thought I would bring this up in a new thread. Some people do not know the lengths that providers go through to make themselves available for you. 1. we have a profile and/or a website that requires maintenance to keep up to date, taking up some of our time. 2. we have ads that we place elsewhere so that we have a variety of avenues in which you can communicate with us, which also require maintenance. 3. we spend many hours of a week just answering texts, phone calls and emails to your inquiries. 4. we keep ourselves fit, meaning we are spending time working out, whether that be at home, or going to a gym. 5. beauty is not instant, so we take the time to have manicured nails, hairstyles, spending time shopping for just the right products and articles of clothing. 6. maintenance of our locations, whether they be where we live or a place we rent just for these occasions. (cleaning services are not free, or we do it ourselves, meaning more hours in a week dedicated to what we provide) 7. we purchase professional photography so that we have nice pictures to display for your pleasure. 8. we ask for a little bit of notice to prepare for your date, as we all have a life outside of this. 9. communication and understanding on our part for discretion is very important to both gentlemen and the provider. 10. we have almost zero information about you coming to us, but we are expected to reveal all about ourselves. So why in the hell is it so difficult to let us know when you can't make it to a booking? We provide you with our addresses, our time and our efforts to be able to entertain you at your request. I have noticed over the last several months that more and more bookings are no more than a ploy to gain access to our whereabouts and have nothing to do with actually wanting to see us. Why is that? Do guys take pleasure in making us run around so that we can accommodate you when you have no intention of showing up? Is it a thrill that you get from the fact that we are getting ready for you and you are just sitting back at home kicking back on the sofa watching tv? I don't know about other providers, but I spend an average of 12 hours a week just answering twitter and emails. I go to the gym everyday for an hour at least. I spend to keep my appearance up. I provide a nice place to entertain you (at a cost). I take the time to confirm and/or reschedule so that it can fit into your schedule (with no regard to my own schedule). So why can't you follow through if you have made a commitment to see me? I find it very inconsiderate and disrespectful when someone makes a booking and then just doesn't bother to show up or let me know they can't make it. All it takes is a little effort on the guys part to do this. Just look at the efforts that the girls are putting out there. When a booking is made and confirmed, we do not book another person for that time. It is made for you. Not for a bunch of guys and going to whatever one shows up first. I do know that perhaps traffic can be bad, accidents, s/o suddenly appears, but you can always go to a bathroom/hallway/garage and let us know you can't make it. Guys make a big stink when providers don't show up, sometimes it is for the same reasons above, bad traffic, stuck somewhere, meetings that go over time at work, but we take the time to let you know we are running late, why can't you show us the same courtesy? For some providers, this is their livelihood, it is how they survive. For others it is a fun side business, but nonetheless, would it kill you to let us know? There is nothing more frustrating to me than to go to a restaurant somewhere and find that I can't get in, it's why I make a reservation! If you are going to make a reservation with us, please have the courtesy to let us know asap if you are not able to make it. We spend hours to prepare for you, take a minute to tell us. I have had some wonderful encounters from the gentlemen on Lyla, and from other sites, but also some frustrating ones that pull this crap. Be courteous to us, we are to you. My rant after a very frustrating 2 weeks.

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I know on a few occasions I have asked the gentlemen to please give me a few minutes and none of them ever had a problem with waiting 5 more minutes...sometimes life happens and we may need an extra 5 minutes(I would definitely understand if you had a booking and the lady asked you to wait 15 or more minutes then okay sure leave But I also have waited and waited on several occasions for the gentlemen to arrive and he had been stuck in traffic or lost and I waited up to 15-20 minutes For those gentlemen that do book and do not show up (no phone call/text nothing) I just block their phone number and will not answer to them again....that is indeed rude and inconsiderate I also like to freshen up and go out of my way to look sexy for you and always make sure my place is clean and comfortable Arggg time wasters...bye

We are only human. I had to say "give me 5" once as I lost my favourite lipstick. If you are a girl, you'd understand. I wanted to look exactly right for the occasion. He responded with "thanks for wasting my time" and left. He didn't give me the time of day, even though I spent over an hour preparing for his visit. If you can't wait a whole 5 minutes, to me that just says you are in a rush and I don't rush appointments, so why are you rushing me? If you need to 'go to the store" then please indicate this and I won't go to such extremities to get ready. I would understand if it was a long wait or if the SP said to wait every time. I believe strongly in communication. I am laid back and have no reason to show off and make it "to a T" at a certain time, as I'm not a robot. A perfect example of this whole aspect of time... I have this doctor who takes her time with each and every patient, which is not common in the medical field. I have waited hours with an appointment, not a walk in. This happens because she is so meticulous and thorough. I believe that us ladies, at least most are the same way. If you have a busy schedule I could understand and ask that you simply re book a time, more convenient for yourself. There is a difference between a girl just hopping around, trying to balance 10 calls in a day, and someone who is generally making a great deal of effort to impress you. See it as a date. With a regular personal date. Us as people, will take time and extreme effort to groom ourselves and find the perfect outfit and accessory, and what not, to make it just right for that occasion. I spent at least 20 minutes on a stupid eyebrow just because it kept looking not good enough for myself. I just like things to be perfect for the occasion. Yes, sometimes it gets a bit over the top but not to a degree where I am well passed you waiting 10 minutes. I feel it is unfair to just drive off and not explain yourself. If you are too impatient why did you bother to come by? Book a time that is realistic and reasonable. THIS is why we hate time wasters. We aren't sitting around picking our bums and waiting on suitors in fancy negligees, just waiting for THAT GUY. We have lives maybe we get hungry... get over it.

Well I can only speak on my behalf...and like i said life happens and if a gentlemen felt he couldnt wait 5 minutes then sorry for wasting his time...sometimes this can't be helped that's why I don't mind an extra 5-10 minutes when I have a booking I know shit happens but that's just me The only advice I can give you would be to not book with those ladies again if 5 minutes was out of your way I do understand some of us are on a tight schedule

Just to let some of you know, the group was created to protect names of businesses and employees from the public to a certain degree. As some of these businesses may not be aware an employee may be offering a happy end. Those who where invited to the group are members who contribute weekly or semi weekly. We are not looking for lurkers. Keep posting your experiences on the wpg massage thread on a regular basis and we would be more than happy to add new members. Remember you don't have to use specific names when posting publically. hope this helps,

It can't be a surprise, though, that when a guy posts a sign at his business that says in essence "all women are idiots," people take offense. Happily the market is speaking, and a female owner of a Toronto garage has put up a better sign: "My Canada includes respect for women." Let's see how things shake out now. It's a great counterstroke; and I suspect the public's attention helped prompt it, showing that the social media response to a public insult can actually achieve a constructive end. I don't know why the original guy thought it was a smart move to put up a sign calling women idiots. And though he said he put it up because he thought it was funny... maybe he should think very carefully about why he thought that. EDIT: Damn! I misread the article the first time and thought it was a nearby competitor. Oh, well.

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From time waster, I've learned a lot... I always get ready right after an appointment. This way, I don't rush to get ready. Also, this prevents me from wasting MY time waiting for somebody. I am ready, so I just have to put clothes over my set, and get out to do whatever I like, and I get back only about half an hour before the time of my date. If you don't call me when running late, I'll be waiting for you for another 15 mins, but afterwards, you get blacklisted. I won't ever loose my time with you, plus, I will add a fee for wasting my time. If you don't book back, well, good ridance. I am redy for my next appointment anyways, so might aswell post another ad to catch up 45 minutes, instead of hours of preparation (which was already done).

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I have a strong issue with just letting someone in my home when I am in a vulnerable state. I like to warm up to someone before letting certain walls down and prefer to keep my personal life separate, from my suitors. I never book suitors close to one another. I have low traffic. If they can't have faith that I am honest and straight forward, they can be my guest and move along. I like to run a relaxed atmosphere, that doesn't make me need to rush. Getting ready takes me forever, being flighty and all. To be perfectly honest 70% of my slowness is getting way too INTO a song, or just liking my shower a bit much, and stealing, all the hot water. He will have to trust me when I mean 5 minutes. Besides I'm usually early myself, waiting outside before they even arrive, it's a rarity asking for more time, but does happen. I've even had to shovel my driveway last minute not realizing it snowed the night before and had minimal time to have a "lunch break" visit. Not a worry... it did the trick just dandy. I think most no shows are summed up to, anxiety,shame, forgetfulness and fuckery.

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Maybe, ask her name. Say you just wanted some information, to better get to know her, before making an appointment with her. You can then,continue your research before deciding. Just a friendly suggestion. Good luck deary!

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Agreed, but there are some on here (not going to mention any names because it's a no no) that say "give me 5 minutes", and they booked well in advance.

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I agree with you that if you are booked with any of us and you show up on time, we should be ready for you, after all, you are there on time.

In response to OP; Naw. People have always loved to gossip, and judge, and tear other people down. Social Media allows them to do it quicker, meaner, and more anonymously than before, but it also means the focus moves on to the next target quicker. So I don't really see this ever losing its steam. It's the same as everything else: technology finding a new way to satisfy an old desire.

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To me, it's more of a mannerism thing. Menu is a list. Inquiring about what type experience the SP offers is different. When making an appointment with someone, it's all about connection. If someone says "Hi Brody, menu?' I will attempt to make conversation, about what they are looking for, rather than list anything. I then respond to them accordingly, by their response. I don't offer quick services, if I can help it. It's the whole McDonalds concept. 1.Hi, 2.Here's my list, 3.Sex, 4.Done, bye. Not for me. Robotic connections will be cancelled, during the call and will return the funds ,so they can be seen by the right girl for them. Maybe it's because I am so flighty and bubbly, but I have always preferred super relaxed and even better, longer appointments. The bigger the window, the longer I have to truly show myself, have a better time and have a better connection with someone. I'm truly a people person. Lists just make it feel robotic and short lived. How boring is that? I can understand if an appointment is a quickie. That's not the issue, as some people have busy lives. To me, it's very stressful to have to list myself, like a happy menu. Feels too robotic and inhumane. In my opinion I feel a menu is for a restaurant and not for an entirety of an experience. Now, I do realize this is not always the case, as some Hobbyists or Suitors could be shy and just want to make conversation, and don't quite know how. Some people are just awkward and want to know what I offer and aren't, quite sure how to break the ice. Although, some men see it as a doll type situation and have the mindset of " the more she does, the better she is". Everyone is different and many forget that. In terms of women denying "menu inquiries", I would say it's like how everyone is stating. It's all in how you say it. I'm not a drive thru and prefer a more descriptive introduction to better see what type of experience I can offer this person or if one is even possible. My experience is a whole and the only thing I could say is what I don't do, if I were to ever list anything. A good suggestion on what to say instead:"Hi I'm so and so, and I viewed your website. You have peaked my interest. I was wondering if there was anything you won't do." The best and simple way to get my attention, is to just be upfront and tell me what you want or what you are curious to try. My two Cents! ,Brody

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Though I do completely understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, I do also see the so called "other side of the coin". Take myself for example, yes this would be considered only my 11th post and I have been here since 2012, does that make a person less trusted? possibly. Maybe I am considered just the run-of-the-mill "lurker", so be it. However what I dont think some people realize, and Im not signaling you out here, nor am I naming names, is that again, using myself as an example, I have not needed to post many posts as the boards have always been VERY informative and given me all the necessary info I have needed. That is in turn why it is harder for guys, like myself, to get PM's from the veteran members, and it is hard for us. Again I appreciate where you are coming from, as one can never be too careful. Also, for the vets out there, with the numerous posts, the guys like myself do appreciate all the effort and info you provide, I know it makes my life and hobby partaking both easier and safer

As someone who has experienced both, I must say there is a huge difference in service and atmosphere. when I see an RMT it is for relieving tense muscle and aches due to stress or physically abusing myself with laboursome work. I often come out even more sore than when I came in but the mobility is gained. Its very professional done and I cannot understand how someone could get confused or just ignorant and behave in a sexual manor when there is nothing sexual about it. now when attending a spa who provides this sexual encounter it may have a lot of therapeutic effects but (no offence to the ladies) the massage is not the same. yes its relaxing and loosens the muscle a bit but not nearly as much as an RMT. however they sure know how to make me rise if you know what I mean. I guess what I'm trying to say is they provide two separate services and one should never be confused by the other. I think some people may of watched one too many porn movies. It is sad to say but perhaps RMT may need to voice record their session in order to protect themselves. This could even be used as evidence when some horny prick decide to sexually assault by make this types of propositions. great point cyclo!