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Discussing SP or MA rates in public is just rude. We do not have to justify our rates. Too expensive? Shake it off, and pass to the next.

that's like asking why one car manufacturer charges $35,000 for a vehicle and another charges $350,000 for a vehicle. The answer is (drum roll please, lol) because each is different in their own unique way. There are many factors to consider when looking at someone's rates. Location, desirability, looks, experiences, and much much more. What our rates are is up to us to have, and generally speaking, most of us are in the same range. If you are looking for a luxury experience, then you are going to be looking at luxury rates. Just like as in a $35,000 vehicle isn't going to have the same features as the $350,000 one, you get what you pay for.

To the OP, bear in mind, a lady has the right to choose whatever rate she wishes - it's her body, her time, her choice. If you don't like it you have two options: 1) Save up until you can afford her rate 2) Find someone who is in your price range However, please don't complain; it's just bad form.

Dude ... you are gonna get eaten alive in this thread. Why does anyone in any trade charge more than anyone else?(hows that for a wordy question?) If the market will bear your prices... why not? Some girls really are THAT hawt and THAT good.... dudes will pay it.

Does it matter whether or not someone is charging $100 or $200 or $300 for 1 hour appointment? Does that really matter? You seem to have a issue with comparing others, OP. Do your research. If you don't like her rates and that is a turn off for you, then stop complaining and move on. Your comments are rude and degrading. You need to step back and apologize to all the SPs and MAs.You don't have the place to complain about the rates or openly complain about it. Those who you may contact whos rates are higher than what you want to pay, all the SPs and MAs now know you. It may leave a bad impression on you because of your rude and regarding post. If that is harsh, that's fine. You don't need to like me. Telling as it is.

Why? Why not. Why did you choose 300$ + ? Why didn't you start, let's say, at 500$ + ? You are not to ignore that in some "high spheres of society" some people would smile at your question. For some people, 100$ is a lot. For other people 5000$ is nothing. This is relative. Does a higher price guarantee that you will have a "better service"? No. And what does "better service" mean to you? If what a lady charges is too much for your budget, as suggested by previous members, move on or wait until you can afford a visit. If all communication is done politely with respect on both sides, nobody will be hurt in the process. And by the way, about the ladies who have a website, they usually have information and rates on it. So, it could avoid you some surprises, wouldn't it? So, tell us, Dear OP, what was the real point of your thread? Fun provocation, just curious and amused to see our reactions, or you woke up with a really bad mood because sometimes the world does not make sense to you? No offense...

It isn't up to you what an sp can justify charging. You can choose which ladies to see or not see, but please do it with some class. Judging and calling someone out publicly for the value she places on herself is uncalled for. Just move on if she is out of your preferred price range. Clearly not everyone agrees with your assessment of her value or she would not be able to charge that price.

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I do NOT feel I have to justify myself to you or anyone however since you have decided to open Pandora box publicly then i will do the same ... Do you honestly believe your lower rated ladies have accomplished a fraction of the industry highest awards since as other have?? Can you please tell me have as these women been in Magazines such as I?? Have they been Miss Canada competitors such as I?? Have you or the rest the world been able to track and follow their lives such as mine?? If you can answer YES to any or all of these questions then she is un-charging by a lot and please give them my name and number and i will gladly build them a proper website for free and new rate chart .. since obviously they have NO idea their own self worth .. Breast Wishes, Autumn Raine xo

My comments are in line with the ladies here........the consultant rates are their choice for the services and experience they provide. My recommendation is that before any one starts conversations or communication with any lady is that you check out the rates before you loose time on both ends.

This is a great thread... it has Exotic Touch Danielle's avatar pic .Yummy! Oh right, back on topic perhaps the OP should have do a real life test and gone to see ladies of all different price ranges. I certainly have, and as stated here already it just speaks to the type of experience that you may have. That doesn't mean that you will enjoy any one experience better either just because of higher rates. They are just different. There are some ladies that are out of my price range right now that I would love to see what that experience is all about but that will have to wait for now. I certainly don't begrudge them asking the rate they charge. Thats just what it is. H

Our rates vary ... maybe some charge more because they provide a different type of service...I do charge extra for fetish request... My best advice to you or anyone for that matter if the rate she charges is too much for you then just thank her for her time and move along and find a lady with a more reasonable rate that suits you...there are plenty women with a variety of rates and services It's whatever works best for you...

Why is cauliflower so expensive this year... why has the price of oil fluctuated so much... Why oh why are there not standardized pricing for all the things we buy.... perhaps the government should step in and impose some form of price controls on all products and services so as to ensure that the appropriate value is placed on everything.... ahhhh but wait there is the rub... not everyone agrees on the value of everything it would appear that individuals in fact do have the ability to determine for themselves what value they place on certain goods or services and remarkably the free market tends to be a pretty good way for that willing seller and willing purchaser to connect and carry out that business transaction. If the buyer feels they are no getting appropriate value for their money they decline to purchase and if the seller feels they are not getting paid enought to cover the value of th good or service being sold they don't sell it... pretty simple when you think about it. I have never been a seller in this particular market but I like to kid myself into thinking that the reason for that is the fact that the market would not pay the enormous value I place on myself when in fact the reality is there is no market for a 55 year old, over weight married guy in this industry lol OFGILF But what I have learned over the years is that if a lady Is selling a service as intimate as what we are discussing (hypotheticly of course given our current laws) then the only person who really needs to be 100% comfortable in the valuation is HER... if I as the client have a problem with the valuation I can just move along she has to live with it. As for the general concept of value for money in this industry I have a a distinct pleasure of meeting ladies who provide service at most of the various price points and frankly while I have seldom been disapointed... I am always fealt that I kinda get what I pay for and as a result the majority of my repeat encounters have been at the higher price point so I guess that suggests to me that I see Value in the money I am spending. PS: that's not to say I don't frome time to time get a wonderful surprise from amazing ladies at all price ranges :) Just My Opinion

Wow! You said you've been on Cerb for six years now? Did you think all expenses were going to stay the same? Come on now! 150/200hr doesn't pay for hotel room, let alone all other expenses we have to cater to our beloved friends. So ask yourself, six yrs ago were you making the same wages you are now? I highly doubt it. Lol.

Just wanted to say that after being on Cerb for 4 years and meeting many SP's and MA's over the years that I have learnt a lot about the women who have chosen the is path as a career. Most of them have chosen this career because they enjoy the independence and financial freedom that it can bring. But this job is not easier. Many of them have families or kids to support. University educations that they are trying to complete. This job is demanding as it involves many hours of marketing, emailing, posting ad's answering text and PM's. Trying to get hotel, schedule appointments. The women who are most successful at this job are the one's that truly enjoy their work and like to please their clients. I've met many of these women and have truly enjoyed my time with them time and again. This can be a stressful time as they need the time to prepare the room and prepare themselves for each encounter. Some day's it can busy and other day's not. Some day's they meet some really fun gentlemen and other days, maybe some creeps. Some have been robbed, or beaten up or cheated. Sometimes there no shows or other girls that make fake appointments. This is a hard job. Sometimes it is physically demanding. They give their most intimate moments. It takes a certain kind of woman to handle the emotions and sexual activities that this job may entail. One SP, told me that it's not the physical aspect that is tiring. But the emotional aspect. To be able to pretend to enjoy themselves when they are not. She was saying that in this job she had to be the giver all the time and that most of the men were takers. Her Job was to give them pleasure and most men just used her to get as much pleasure for themselves. These women deserve more, they deserve to be treated kindly and with respect. Respect their time and their contact protocol. Be a gentlemen and be clean. Do not try to negotiate their rates, or push them for more then they are willing to offer. Give them a massage to start, make it about them in the beginning. They may have had a hard day, and appreciated a little kindness and tenderness and relaxation. Talk to them, they are people also, not just objects of your lust. Treat them well and with respect and kindness. I've been told by them, that it doesn't matter how old or what you look like. As long as you are a gentlemen and clean, you will be treated well. Remember, that they are there to make you happy and are providing a very intimate service, so you should appreciate they company they provide. If the chemistry and connection are there, you will have a great time. If the connection is real, it pays to return for repeat sessions. I have repeated many times with many of the women, and have found that each session get's better and better, as you get to know each other and are more relaxed with each other. I have had several good friendships developed over the years and have maintained them. Just wanted to say this to thank you to the women of Cerb for the fun and kindness that they have given us men over the years. I hope to meet many more of you over the next few years if I can :) Remember guys. Be a gentleman, be clean and respectful and you shall be rewarded. Oh yeah, one more thing. The woman should always cum first :)

I find it interesting that you call it discrimination. When you go to a dating site, you are able to specify they type of person you want to meet. Is that discrimination? No, its a preference, this is who you feel compatible with. There are many of us that see people from all ages, races, religions, orientations etc. However, when some are singled out - as they have preferences or fears - even if right or wrong, I feel I need to respond. So, if someone won't see someone under the age of ... Maybe because they do not want to see their childrens friends, or their coworkers, or their (insert blank here). You don't need to know the reason. For some this is a private decision, and really its none of our business. I'd like to add a little example I've experienced: I used to work for an agency. It was a Sunday evening. I was answering the phones. I wasn't really planning on seeing anyone, but it was still business hours, so I answered the phone: HIM: Yes, I'm turning 17, no I mean 18, and want to rent a hooker. I had to catch my breath, while I dislodged the cat caught in my throat. ME I'm sorry, but the lady who is available this evening, does not see anyone under the age of 25 HIM What? Thats discrimination, you can't do that. ME I understand, but these are her rules A short while later: HIM Yes, my son just called, and was told he was too young. You can't do that, its age discrimination and against the law ME I understand, but these are her rules, and she does not wish to see your son HIM Well, what if I rent a �����? ME I'm sorry, but she doesn't see men over the age of 30. HIM I'm calling my lawyer, you can't do that. ME I look forward to hearing from your lawyer. Would you like the contact information of my lawyer? The point I'm making, is that this is my body. It is my decision WHO I want to see. This is not discrimination - the Human Rights Act do not apply here. If forced to see someone I am not comfortable with, it is considered sexual assault, which is a crime. This had nothing to do with age - but with respect. I see all ages, genders, orientations, race and religions. However, I will not see those that disrespect me or who choose to disregard my process of invitation to see me. I understand your desire to understand WHY. However, there are so many reasons. Some I personally don't agree with, but I will support and stand by any one who decides this is the way she wants to run her business. I always find it interesting when I see hobbyists who post "I want to see a lady 19-24, spinner, white" or "I don't want to see a BBW or asian, or....." You don't see the ladies questioning this and calling it discrimination. It comes down to preference and comfort.

Steve....priceless! I will never offer up MY time to a price chopper! Luv ya!

As SteveMcQueen stated, some of us don't want to make big bucks, and are taking this profession as a vocation. NOBODY can judge a girl by how much she decides to charge. And as Mia Adore is stating, doing your homeworks by checking the ladie's website is the best way to choose your SP/MA.

From a SP point of view, I believe there's no excuse for a SP to do this. Although we do have things that come up, I don't think any justification is needed, espescially telling somebody you were with somebody else, but AT THE VERY LEAST send a text, a PM, ANYTHING to avoid this kind of situation. I believe you were extremely understanding, tolerant and kind (and maybe a little naive) to book back! I wish I had easy clients like you! Lack of sign of life is very disrespectful, for or from a service provider...

I have to say, I'm really annoyed by all the coverage of this. This guy is a professional troll, pure and simple... and we all know the best way to deal with trolls. But the world's press have given him the one thing he truly desires: attention, and lots of it. That's an epic fail. It would have been vastly preferable for small groups of pitiable misogynists to meet up without the rest of the world even noticing, much less giving a damn.

When I first make contact with a woman these days. I ask them if they may allow kissing during the session. They either say they don't kiss at all or depends on chemistry. So if there is a chance that she may allow kissing I may take a chance. If there is no kissing at all, I will probably not see her unless she is highly recommended. But like many of the older men here, Kissing is a big part of the experience that we are looking for. We all need human contact and passion in our lives. Touching and skin to skin contact is great. But without the kissing it becomes mechanical. Nothing turns me on more then a nice long passionate kiss. Don't need a tongue down my throat either, but a little tongue roaming is nice :)

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I don't see the double standard or for that matter a significant issue.... like the general population I am pretty sure this industries participants have their share of people with racist beliefs it would be crazy to think that we as a population don't but you know what has struck me over the years is the fact that this industry has in my opinion a general base of people who are more open and more accepting of diversity then most other groups ... Now does that mean that we won't see things ads that express a ladies preference for who she would like to spend intimate time with of course not but let's not be too quick to jump to conclusions as to the reason why... There can be many reasons and yes racism could be one but it's just one.... When I see posts for men looking for asians... russians... French ladies or big butts... large tits... small tits... black ladies... spinners... bbw... and I could go on should I assume they take racist or that they are discriminating... or maybe just out lining their preference for the activity they have in mind. In twenty years of being in this lifestyle I have been only impressed by the openness of the ladies and feel that they have made me way more open to diversity in people. Just my Opinion

tongue firmly in cheek... why the over 35 crowd gets the girl.... 1. Multiple shots on goal means a three day booking 2. We are extraordinarily grateful that someone will even stay in the same room as us when we are naked. 3. Nap time is on the clock. 4. Cuddle time may just be the best we can do. 5. Less likely to stalk, we barely even remember where we live. 6. While we remember to bring the envelope, we might not remember why we came. 7. We can help with history assignments in post secondary courses. We were there when it all happened. 8. Arthritis prevents us from being too grabby.

If you've concerns, why come here to this board? Typically ladies get on here last, so the massive amounts of random posts about this one and that one is now taking over our discussion boards in NS! Why?!? You men not doing your home work and instantly coming here to vent or what? Surely there's other things to talk about then Ashley,Tiffany, Brandi,MissCanada, Deborah from bp or cl etc... These silly posts are ruining good chats/discussions we could be having... My oponion only. Hehe...

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Why do sp's confirm times with you and date and then don't show? It happened twice to me in a week. We texted, discussed a little and then confirmed everything and then on the day they were supposed to confirm, nothing. They agreed to outcalls and I live in a nice neighbourhood. I have only ever used 2 sp' before this and have always been respectful and courteous. I completely understand that they have lives and things come up. I just am disappointed that there was not even a message saying they had to cancel or just chose not to go ahead with it. If we (customer) did that to the sp then we would get blocked. Like I said, more than likely they had something come up or just changed their mind which is fine, just let me know so I can arrange for a different SP.

In all of Canada sure. But there isn't a ton of activity on the NS ads section. For example there have been 0 posts today so far and only 4 yesterday. I know there is a rule for limiting reposts but right now you can still see ads from over a week ago on page 1. BP has become the default place for most to advertise which would explain why there are so many posts asking for information.

and a clean ass?? Not standard? I guess the good old days are gone?

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I must have the worst luck. LMAO! I spoke for most of the afternoon yesterday with a well known SP, arranged an appointment and was ready to go this morning. I even booked the morning off. I texted when I was told to and no answer. Time of the appointment came and went. No reply. The SP has great reviews on LYLA/CERB. Answered every question they asked and even referenced another SP I use. They contacted her and verified. Everything was good to go. Time of appojntment......no reply. Any time I ever was going to be late or something came up I have always let my SP know. Not let them hanging. Maybe they had something come up or even changed their mind. That is ok too. Just let me know so I am not waiting around. Additional Comments: I am almost tempted to quit this all together. If I am curteous to them, all I ask is the same?

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"clean ass"? that stipulation is really gonna narrow down the candidates....

Seeing Jolie's ad...

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This happens to me about twice in a year and I feel for you Jeff, it is very frustrating. I live over 1 hour from any major city in my area and I booked a 2 hour meeting with a special lady last summer, took time off work and showed up a bit early so not to miss my appointment. On her last PM she told me where she was staying, found a parking nearby her hotel paid the parking for 3 hours as you never know how long it will be, texted her about 5 minutes ahead of our meeting waited for a reply, nothing. I waited in the parking lot for 1-1/2 hour and I got fed up and left. She texted me when I was almost home and said she was sorry and gave me an excuse. She is a very well known SP on here and it was not my first time seeing her and I don't know if I will see her again. I hate having a back up plan and calling another lady at the last minute to book like that.

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Years ago (pre-Lyla for me) I phoned an SP and booked an appointment, and towards the end she said something like "I should tell you, I'm black, does that make any difference?" I immediately assured her that it didn't - as, in fact, it didn't. But when we hung up I was sad for her that she felt she had to ask that, and slightly depressed to live in a world where she was probably right. This thread is full of sincere people doing their best to try to create a world where this is a non-issue, and that's great, but it's a disheartening state of affairs nonetheless.

Resurrecting a thread from 2011. Care to clarify your point?

Just met her this afternoon. One word.........YES! Great from beginning to end. Very laid back and smelled great. Very pretty, young and knew what she was doing. I was a little nervous but she made me feel relaxed. She seems to have a playful side that might be explored once She gets to know you better. She does not book a lot but if you get the chance definitely take it. Plan on hopefully being a regular. Two big thumbs up!

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It's unfortunate that you have to make that choice but we all have to make the right choices for our own situations. unfortunately the laws in Canada have made it somewhat more difficult for ladies and clients to openly communicate and best ensure their own safety and frankly that's an environment where scammed an schemers get to thrive. That said I do think it's possible to do your homework and stick to established reputable providers... yes it might be slightly more expensive then the unbelievable special offers us guys all to often fall for but that because they are NOT BELIEVABLE... The challenge of course is that in some of the smaller markets the quantity of established ladies is small and touring ladies are less frequent. Sorry to see you step back but all the best... hope we continue to see your presence here on the board.

Well I'm not the one signing up but it sure appears legit...There are numerous invitations to contact - suggest you do that. I would have no reservations about booking with this provider.