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I am so so so tempted to add this today: For f-ck sake, for once that ladies can have THE job in the world where they will ALWAYS be paid MORE THAN MEN, knowing all the unbalanced/unfair salaries out there between men and women, and a man still wants to complain about it?! Yeah, our price is our price. But if we want to be very practical about it and cut it down to how much it would cost minimally in an hour, why not trying this exercise? I am sure we will go OVER 300$/hour very quickly. Alright, here it goes: - A regular massage by a registered therapist or in a beauty spa by a non registered therapist, nothing else, is between 75 to 125$/hour and more. - The cost of paying personal company for people who need it (for example seniors or disabled people whose family pay for individuals to provide them with company, meaning talking with them only, not offering any care, just checking if they are OK): minimum of 15$/hour in Ontario. - The cost of education that distinguishes a lady (I tend to think that we are not stupid, whether we have diplomas or not. Intelligence and an elegant attitude, as well as having the ability to entertain guests is not related to studies we might have done or not, but if we have, it is another cost that can be considered in trying to "making the price right"). Most of us have degrees or are studying. So the cost of having stimulating conversations with a lady thanks to education (sometimes compared by some gentlemen as talking to a therapist): minimum of 120$/hr - The cost of location: MINIMUM 200$/night. Minimum. If we talk about upscale location, it goes up fast. - The cost of personal care: although we are beautiful, we do not wake up with our hair, make up, nails, skin looking nice and smelling good. We need to take care of that. Hair dresser, nail salon, tanning salon, beauty spa, products, perfume etc... Name it. These services/items are very expensive. Let's say: 200$/month minimum - The cost of clothes and shoes and lingerie, bags (you do not want us to wear plastic bags, don't you?) very expensive. You don't want to see us with the same outfits all the time? No: minimum of 200$/month to renew wardrobe and lingerie. Just one piece of lingerie can cost 200$ ! - The cost of a gym membership (we have to take care of our body!): let's keep it simple, if we go to the YMCA: minimum 55$/month - The cost of special toys, accessories, anything related to play and protection: these stuff are expensive, especially if we specialize the type of games and toys: another 200$ minimum /month (my personal minimum expenses in this category) - Cost of hygiene products at your disposal, laundry to offer you fresh and clean towels, bed sheets, and buy new ones if needed etc...: 80$/month (my personal minimum expenses in this category). - Drinks or appetizers that can be offered by ladies to gentlemen in some meetings: I sometimes offer crackers, cookies, drinks. Let's keep it minimal with non alcoholic drinks: 30$/month (my personal minimum expenses in this category). - The cost of professional photo shoots if a lady does so: the average cost for such a photo shoot session ("package") is 1200$ (I have looked on a few websites, this is the average cost I noticed, it can be more or less, of course) - The cost of advertising: a minimum of 50$/month. It can go over 200$/month and much more depending on when, how, where the lady advertises, and the frequency/numbers of ads purchased. - The cost of travels, to go to you in the same city, or if a lady is touring. Between plane and train tickets, or gas, it can go up very quickly: varies a lot from a lady to another, obviously. From her rent cost if she hosts only, to several thousands of dollars in a month if she travels all the time. - The cost of communication tools and time involved in communication with you (not only "you", of course...): monthly phone package, website, internet etc... Hard to put a price on this as it can vary a lot but, it is more money again. My minimum cost: around 115$/month, not counting the time put into communicating with gentlemen. I must be forgetting some other costs here for sure! Add all these costs, and you will understand that it is not only about getting up in the morning, putting panties on, and posting an ad randomly somewhere and voilà! Nope. It does not work this way. So, yes, how surprising that it takes money to make money! But most most most of all: what is the real cost of one hour spent with someone who will take care of you wonderfully and make you feel special? How much for this? We give the most precious of ourselves at many levels. Breaking it down to money only does not even cover it all! And about expressing an opinion: it is not about the fact that the OP expressed an opinion in the first place. It is about HOW the OP expressed this opinion. Very different! Having a degree in communication, and being proud of it, I believe that it makes a huge difference when considering discussing such matters.

Discussing SP or MA rates in public is just rude. We do not have to justify our rates. Too expensive? Shake it off, and pass to the next.

Well you were wasting her time weren't you? You didn't consider her rate before you contacted her. That is just common sense. And common courtesy.

So basically you're saying people should just keep their opinions to themselves? Funny, you seem to have an opinion about everything.

Why is cauliflower so expensive this year... why has the price of oil fluctuated so much... Why oh why are there not standardized pricing for all the things we buy.... perhaps the government should step in and impose some form of price controls on all products and services so as to ensure that the appropriate value is placed on everything.... ahhhh but wait there is the rub... not everyone agrees on the value of everything it would appear that individuals in fact do have the ability to determine for themselves what value they place on certain goods or services and remarkably the free market tends to be a pretty good way for that willing seller and willing purchaser to connect and carry out that business transaction. If the buyer feels they are no getting appropriate value for their money they decline to purchase and if the seller feels they are not getting paid enought to cover the value of th good or service being sold they don't sell it... pretty simple when you think about it. I have never been a seller in this particular market but I like to kid myself into thinking that the reason for that is the fact that the market would not pay the enormous value I place on myself when in fact the reality is there is no market for a 55 year old, over weight married guy in this industry lol OFGILF But what I have learned over the years is that if a lady Is selling a service as intimate as what we are discussing (hypotheticly of course given our current laws) then the only person who really needs to be 100% comfortable in the valuation is HER... if I as the client have a problem with the valuation I can just move along she has to live with it. As for the general concept of value for money in this industry I have a a distinct pleasure of meeting ladies who provide service at most of the various price points and frankly while I have seldom been disapointed... I am always fealt that I kinda get what I pay for and as a result the majority of my repeat encounters have been at the higher price point so I guess that suggests to me that I see Value in the money I am spending. PS: that's not to say I don't frome time to time get a wonderful surprise from amazing ladies at all price ranges :) Just My Opinion

Always find it interesting when someone posts - URGENT. Yes, if you are going to TOFTT, and want to see her NOW, it would seem urgent. However, there are so many ladies in your area that are well reviewed, why not start there? URGENT in my opinion is for 911 - heart attack, stroke, car accident. Slow down, read and go from there. It will save you in the end. I know nothing about this ad, just seems like you are rushing into things when its not really necessary.

Why? Why not. Why did you choose 300$ + ? Why didn't you start, let's say, at 500$ + ? You are not to ignore that in some "high spheres of society" some people would smile at your question. For some people, 100$ is a lot. For other people 5000$ is nothing. This is relative. Does a higher price guarantee that you will have a "better service"? No. And what does "better service" mean to you? If what a lady charges is too much for your budget, as suggested by previous members, move on or wait until you can afford a visit. If all communication is done politely with respect on both sides, nobody will be hurt in the process. And by the way, about the ladies who have a website, they usually have information and rates on it. So, it could avoid you some surprises, wouldn't it? So, tell us, Dear OP, what was the real point of your thread? Fun provocation, just curious and amused to see our reactions, or you woke up with a really bad mood because sometimes the world does not make sense to you? No offense...

My comments are in line with the ladies here........the consultant rates are their choice for the services and experience they provide. My recommendation is that before any one starts conversations or communication with any lady is that you check out the rates before you loose time on both ends.

It isn't up to you what an sp can justify charging. You can choose which ladies to see or not see, but please do it with some class. Judging and calling someone out publicly for the value she places on herself is uncalled for. Just move on if she is out of your preferred price range. Clearly not everyone agrees with your assessment of her value or she would not be able to charge that price.

The funny thing I've read on some other forums - "I won't see a lady who charges less then $250-350 per hour, as if she charges less then that she is high volume". So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Do you want to go with a McDonald type business plan (sell lots of hamburgers for cheap) or with a Keg type business plan (sell quality meals at a higher price). Really its up to you. Well said Mia. Personally, advertising is much more for me then $50 a month. I pay at least $100 just for backpage, $100 for another forum I'm on, plus some other advertising expenses. Thats without the basic banners you see on the top of page. If you want those here on lyla, these are the prices: PACKAGES Package including - Static banner button (Right side column) - Chat room Banner - Main forum rotating banner Package Prices: - $150.00 for 1 month - $300.00 for 3 months - $850.00 for 12 months *Sponsor a city with any of these packages for a additional 10% off! Now, if you travel, you have to pay the other sites similar prices as well. Yes, I can get away with basic advertising, just put a basic ad on BP, a free ad on lyla - but then again, do I want to be basic? Lingerie - I had to start all over getting new lingerie when I moved here. I had at least $1000 worth left behind. So, each month, I go out and buy some new pieces. I've spent at least $600 so far on my outfits - and that only counts for 1 pair of shoes. If I bought a pair of shoes for each outfit, I'd be well over $1000 just for the 4 outfits I have so far. I don't go cheap on these. For my civilian clothing I go cheap but not for playtime. Accomodation - Fortunately, I am able to rent a shared in call. So, I only have to pay per call. However, the lady I rent from, her rent alone is $1400 a month. That doesn't include hydro. She supplies all the furniture, bedding, towels, soaps etc. The furniture alone is well over $4000 to buy. Yes, I could do my calls at my personal residence, or I could rent a cheap place. However, it's not the same. The place I use is a spacious retreat, a place when I go and it feels like a piece of heaven. I don't have to bring anything but myself and my supplies. The guys love it, and for a lot of them, its nicer then where they live, so they enjoy being in an upscale location they can relax in. Beauty treatment - I'm pretty basic. I've never had a manicure or a pedicure. However, I know a lot of the ladies do this on a regular basis. Hair, nails, waxing, makeup, tanning, tattoos, piercing. These things are all really expensive. Its not like I can go to the salon and get away with a 15 haircut. Hell no. I know barbers are cheaper, and thats what guys go for for themselves, but not this girl. My tip alone is $20 for a good cut and colour and my last cut and colour was $140 plus my tip, so $160. Make up - have you ever priced this stuff? Even going with the bargain brands - you can't get out of the store for less then $100 if you need to replenish your supplies. Most of the ladies go for the quality stuff - there is a difference in quality, so the price is much higher. However, at the end of the day - I have rent to pay, groceries to buy, gas for my car, insurance, maintenance - all of these things are there whether I do a call or not. So, I have to cover those expenses. Fortunately, I get a monthly check that covers most of this (not all, but most), so I entertain gentlemen so I can cover the rest of my expenses, plus have money to live - so I'm not living month to month. I'm pretty frugal, so I don't need to entertain a lot. That is my choice and decision. However, for the women who are actively pursuing this business to pay their student loans, saving for the future, or whatever goal they have, of course they are going to charge what they want. Anyone who criticizes or whines about a ladies rates - especially in a public forum is really showing what his opinion of the lady is worth. Its sad really.

First it's never a clients place to complain or criticize any lady's rates. If her rates are too high for your budget then contact a lady who's rates you can afford. Each lady has a business model which works for them. Some ladies have higher rates because they have business expenses such as touring expenses, professional photographs regularly done, maybe have someone handle the business end (look after bookings, scheduling etc) and so on. Expenses that a companion who stays local , handles her own bookings and may just use cell phone photos etc doesn't have Also, dependant on where the lady lives may affect rates. I'm sure rates in a major city like Toronto are higher than say a smaller city like say Kingston Irrespective this lifestyle is a luxury for clients and it's not up to any client/prospective client to question a lady's rates. Only a lady knows her business model and expenses and knows what works for her A rambling RG

I don't think you were terribly successful at that. There really isn't any way to publicly pose that question without sounding that way. I'm pretty sure if you had reread this question one more time, bearing in mind the nature of the transaction in question, you would have realized this. Be that as it may, there's a simple answer to why someone charges what she does. Because she can. IMHO you would have gotten some flack for posing the question and just stopping there. I think the commentary after the question is fueling some of the other responses.

Wow! You said you've been on Cerb for six years now? Did you think all expenses were going to stay the same? Come on now! 150/200hr doesn't pay for hotel room, let alone all other expenses we have to cater to our beloved friends. So ask yourself, six yrs ago were you making the same wages you are now? I highly doubt it. Lol.

that's like asking why one car manufacturer charges $35,000 for a vehicle and another charges $350,000 for a vehicle. The answer is (drum roll please, lol) because each is different in their own unique way. There are many factors to consider when looking at someone's rates. Location, desirability, looks, experiences, and much much more. What our rates are is up to us to have, and generally speaking, most of us are in the same range. If you are looking for a luxury experience, then you are going to be looking at luxury rates. Just like as in a $35,000 vehicle isn't going to have the same features as the $350,000 one, you get what you pay for.

To the OP, bear in mind, a lady has the right to choose whatever rate she wishes - it's her body, her time, her choice. If you don't like it you have two options: 1) Save up until you can afford her rate 2) Find someone who is in your price range However, please don't complain; it's just bad form.

I had mentioned I was raising money for cancer awareness and that Feb 4 th I would shave my head for those donations I am a woman of my word and It looks pretty good, I know some had said they would not see me if I shaved it off but honestly I am not so shallow that my world revolves around my hair so I hope that you learn to feel the same. Hair is barely what makes us who we are we are born bald yet we are loved. Some have no choice in loosing their hair and they are the bravest. So I hope some of you can see past my cute bald little head to what really matters , I am a tigress in the sack xoxox and I am a good person. Regular Donations Are: 140 roses/half hour,TODAY Bald Special 80 roses/hh 200 roses/hour,TODAY Bald Special 180 roses /hour for fun 260 roses/hour and half, 340 roses/2hours Are you a older man looking for a mature angel faced woman to spend some time with? Someone who isn't just a woman but real Lady with soft caressing hands and deep kisses.A woman with deep desires and addicted to cuddles. Step out of your fast paced world and step into my slow seduction. I have warm inviting hazel eyes and curly auburn red hair that cascades around my shoulders. My classic hourglass figure has curves in all the right places. A natural 34 D and and hips mmm hips that beg to be held on to. I'm NO spinner but I do so love the ride. Shower available,massage table as well,Soft scented candles burn in my quiet home 10 min away from Downtown Ottawa . I will be waiting----------. Jolie (613)266-9918 XoX

Being in business, the rates of the professionals I hire vary, that's a fact. Lawyers, engineers, etc, their rates vary, and it's up to me to decide which one I want to have, and pay accordingly. Period. I do not want to discuss the rates with the people I decide to hire; if it does not suits me, I use another one. It all depends on the business plan of the individual. At any rate, if their business is satisfying their goal, why not charge the right price. And it's the same for me. Why I would charge less, if the demand for my service is high, and can get more for the effort and service I offer ? Why not? I do not adjust my rates to the budget of those who want to employ me. I may, but it's my call. Offer and demand is, in a way, the rule. Do we discuss the hockey player contracts ? Maybe! But they sign their contract at the highest rate and somebody is ready to pay the price they ask. Why they would lower their demand ? I may dream to meet super stars models, but I can't afford it. But it still in my dreams. I feel lucky that all the ladies here on Lyla are of very high quality, with very high standards, at a price I can afford. Thanks girls.

I would also recommend Brooklyn Styles as well. Saw her a few times in Fredericton when she was visiting.

Thank you antleman that was exactly what I was gonna write...Why even contact the lady if her rate doesn't suit you to start with...move on...

Worth it to me?......No. But I respect the right for any one to operate their business as they chose. Obviously this isn't the easiest gig in the world as we are regularly reminded in the "things that turn off" threads and some certainly won't have a long shelf life so I don't begrudge them earning as much as they can for as long as they can. Worth it?..In the end the market decides, not me. Peace MG

Just some worthwhile reading whilst on this topic.... http://willsheorwontshe.tumblr.com/post/138631463537/overpricing-yourself-in-a-saturated-market

Does it matter whether or not someone is charging $100 or $200 or $300 for 1 hour appointment? Does that really matter? You seem to have a issue with comparing others, OP. Do your research. If you don't like her rates and that is a turn off for you, then stop complaining and move on. Your comments are rude and degrading. You need to step back and apologize to all the SPs and MAs.You don't have the place to complain about the rates or openly complain about it. Those who you may contact whos rates are higher than what you want to pay, all the SPs and MAs now know you. It may leave a bad impression on you because of your rude and regarding post. If that is harsh, that's fine. You don't need to like me. Telling as it is.

I do NOT feel I have to justify myself to you or anyone however since you have decided to open Pandora box publicly then i will do the same ... Do you honestly believe your lower rated ladies have accomplished a fraction of the industry highest awards since as other have?? Can you please tell me have as these women been in Magazines such as I?? Have they been Miss Canada competitors such as I?? Have you or the rest the world been able to track and follow their lives such as mine?? If you can answer YES to any or all of these questions then she is un-charging by a lot and please give them my name and number and i will gladly build them a proper website for free and new rate chart .. since obviously they have NO idea their own self worth .. Breast Wishes, Autumn Raine xo

Dude ... you are gonna get eaten alive in this thread. Why does anyone in any trade charge more than anyone else?(hows that for a wordy question?) If the market will bear your prices... why not? Some girls really are THAT hawt and THAT good.... dudes will pay it.

If you've concerns, why come here to this board? Typically ladies get on here last, so the massive amounts of random posts about this one and that one is now taking over our discussion boards in NS! Why?!? You men not doing your home work and instantly coming here to vent or what? Surely there's other things to talk about then Ashley,Tiffany, Brandi,MissCanada, Deborah from bp or cl etc... These silly posts are ruining good chats/discussions we could be having... My oponion only. Hehe...

I've been following this site for a long time now, and it is amazing how often the same, issues, concerns and complaints come up. Things that should be obvious often are not. I thought it might help if I compiled a summery of some of the more common concerns for the newbie section. Hopefully it will help get some of the new gents to the hobby off on the right foot. There may be some here that don't apply to all people or situations, but these are some of the more common ones I have seen over the years: 1. Do your homework first. Nobody likes to have to spend time writing out answers to questions they have already provided answers for on their website or ad. 2. Be respectful during the initial contact. Being abrupt or rude is definitely a bad start. 3. Don't be too explicit. The laws are such that everyone is restricted in what can be said. Some are more careful than others with this, but remember that you are simply compensating for her time. That's all. Asking for anything more specific will often get you no reply at all. 4. Don't haggle. This is not a flea market. Nothing kills the mood faster than telling someone that they are worth less than they think they are. If she is out of your price range, move on politely. 5. If you have to cancel, let her know ASAP. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Their time is their source of income and they have promised some of it to you. At least give them some notice if you won't be able to make it. If you can't give notice, consider offering to compensate her. It has already cost her the time, whether or not you were there. (E-transfers can make this super easy.) ....And just not showing up without letting her know at all is so incredibly disrespectful and uncool. (and a sure way to get yourself black listed.) Just don't do it. 6. If you are sick, cancel. Nobody wants your illness. (But see number 5) 7. Hygiene -It shocks me how often this one comes up. It is for your own benefit to not have her repulsed during your time together. Take a shower and brush your teeth as close to the appointment as possible. If you can't, then ask if she has shower facilities. Many do. (But remember it is on your time.) oh... and wear deodorant! 8. If she asks you to take a shower before hand.... take one. It means one of two things. a) She has a policy that all clients take one, or b) you smell. Either way, it is the same answer: Take the shower if she asks. 9. Respect her time. This means being on time, but not early. Not always easy to be precise, but do what you can. If you are late, don't expect that she will let you stay later to make up for it. Also, don't expect her to be ready early just because you showed up early. Remember, you have an appointment. Respecting her time also means leaving when your time is up without having to be asked over and over. 10. Have the envelope ready at the beginning of the date. Don't make her ask. It kills the mood. I just place it on the dresser or table as I walk in. They can address it or not as they see fit. Of course, all of these points can be summed up with two words: "show respect". If you use that as a guideline, you can't go wrong. I know there are some points that I have missed and some that not everyone will agree with. Remember, this isn't my list. It is a compilation of the most common concerns I have seen since I started following the site. Feel free to add to it if I have missed any.

Re-organizing a couple rooms in my house...with the help of Bob Seger. But no boxers and not sliding across the floor - yet. Haha

ALWAYS find out the beautiful ladies donation rates FIRST! A lot of men don't seem to realize that the hotel ALONE costs at least 200!! If she is in her private residence she does a lot to make it nice, she also buys nice lingerie often, heels, perhaps protection, massage oil etc etc... expenses ADD UP. To you, she is just a girl you are seeing because you're horny, to her this might be her 'job' and she needs to spend money to make money! I would also like to add that if she is in her private residence, she may be extremely picky over whom she has over, resulting in her maybe charging a bit more so she can see a limited amount of clients or whatever. This is a very private and intimate 'service' that girls are providing, whether it is an SP or MA! Yes, some charge more than others for various reasons, but at the end of the day something that some do not understand: There is ALWAYS gentlemen that are MORE than happy to pay the ladies rate! Don't complain, simply find someone you can afford! If I am in a hotel, I will always charge a bit more for obvious reasons. I have to see at least 2 gentlemen JUST to pay for the room if I am not in my city! If you want cheap, then don't complain when she isn't 'cheap'. There are girls that have specials, look for them! :) Still, it does not matter if she is profiting 100%. This is her body! She can charge $50, she can charge $300! Sorry that your attempt to rate-shame did not work...

Tina and Suni (sue knee, phonetically) are not the same person. Both Tina and Suni are very attractive, and provide excellent service. I agree with YOW4. I saw Tina about a month ago. She is a very attractive, intelligent young woman with great massage skills and excellent English. I look forward to seeing her again. My hour with her was totally enjoyable! Beautiful, with a lovely spirit! I have not yet seen Suni, but I hope to :) I spoke with her on the phone and she was very, very pleasant :) A fellow hobbyist saw her and thoroughly enjoyed his time with her. Her recommendations are excellent. From what I understand, Suni is not as comfortable in English as Tina. Fair to say that both Tina and Suni would be a real pleasure to see at the Lewis St. spa.

Emily Rushton travels to Moncton, and is a well recommended and beautiful woman. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=22822 Brooklyn Styles is a beautiful woman in Moncton. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=102768

Our rates vary ... maybe some charge more because they provide a different type of service...I do charge extra for fetish request... My best advice to you or anyone for that matter if the rate she charges is too much for you then just thank her for her time and move along and find a lady with a more reasonable rate that suits you...there are plenty women with a variety of rates and services It's whatever works best for you...

When I first make contact with a woman these days. I ask them if they may allow kissing during the session. They either say they don't kiss at all or depends on chemistry. So if there is a chance that she may allow kissing I may take a chance. If there is no kissing at all, I will probably not see her unless she is highly recommended. But like many of the older men here, Kissing is a big part of the experience that we are looking for. We all need human contact and passion in our lives. Touching and skin to skin contact is great. But without the kissing it becomes mechanical. Nothing turns me on more then a nice long passionate kiss. Don't need a tongue down my throat either, but a little tongue roaming is nice :)

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We work often more than 50 hours a week for you. The only reason I don't charge 300$+ an hour (I was thinking of 350$) is because I want to keep my regular clientele. If a service provide judge that the work she's doing deserve a certain pay, who the f*** are you to judge? Do you know how long she's working in a gym, awnsering your PMs/texts/posts or else? Do you know what kind of expenses she has? Just asking why she charges that much is rude. Go and see for yourself. Look at the kind of efforts she's doing for you. And then, judge for yourself if you repeat or not. This mather should never be discussed.

I always like to stick to my same method of confirming. If booking a day before I ask for confirmation at specific time. Then a voice call after that. Confirmations are ment for both parties, this is the time for either one to say if running on time or a bit late or last min changes to shedual. I always leave enough room to book in another if my date has to cancel. It helps me as well, if my last session ran late. So in other words a confirmation is just that...confirming once and for all that everything is running as planned. Perhaps in the case of taking time off work you might try asking her if she too can confirm before you book time off? That way if something onher end goes wrong you didnt loose valuable time off work. If I am booking a longtime in advanced like a week, i ask them to connect with me 2 days prior then again for a final confirmation hour or so before. This way if I forgot somehow to mark you in my book I can then do so. Confirmations for me are done first txt so that I reconize your number once you do call me and dont hit ignore. I dont answer every phone call that comes in. SP's scheduals can get very confusing and messy. We can go from thinking we have 4 appts then is reduced to 2, then 1 and then back up to 4 again in a matter of minutes. This makes it hard to keep it all straight at times. Usually when I mess up, this is the reason. Sorry this happenes to so many good potential clients, I feel your fustration. If ever knowingly I have done this to anyone, I typically will contact them once I figured out my mistake and aplogise with an incentive to make it better. As a client should when canceling short notice. Simple respect goes a long way. Hope things look up for ya soon! Cheers:)

Well I am not out of bed that long yet so it's a bit early to be posting a highlight of the day but I have to say it's pretty nice to wake to a temperature of 11c on February 6 in St. John's NL... yes I know it's raining and the wind is high and there is a flash freezing warning because the temperature is supposed to drop quickly this afternoon but to wake and look out and not see any snow in sight is pretty fuking good...

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I am not sure I have a problem with guys asking about ladies who advertise on other sites because frankly that is one of the reasons guys come to this site to share info on wonderful ladies they may have met and while my experience may tell me that all LYLA ladies are great I don' think it's safe to say that all the great ladies are on Lyla... some have never been on here and some have been and are no more for a variety of reasons. I think the quantity and quality of posts on this board has declined over the last year or so due to the new laws and restrictions on what we can say so i don't think we want to drive people away... Let's encourage greater discourse and suggest that guys do what I do... if i meet a lady who is not on Lyla I encourage them to join. It's important to recognize that any recommendation written on here is an expression of one guys opinion and opinions are like a*ssholes everyone has on and most stink. Recommendations reflect that individuals preferences, like and dislikes... no two encounters will be the same as so much relies on chemistry and connection... that's why everything in this industry is Y*M*M*V... I guess if that's a fair question to ask a guy who is a member here then should it also be fair to ask Ladiy members here if they think there is not enough Guy clients here on LYLA... It's not about enough in either case in my opinion it's about guys looking for a provider that is right for them and ladies looking for good clients and that happens here and in other venues..

Out of interest... have you ever tried going to see them and finding out? That's not meant as a snarky question, by the way. We all have a point where things are just beyond our means. I'm just wondering. Her rate may not have been published; that's sometimes the case with providers that operate in the less price-sensitive segment of the market. And if it wasn't, then it's not the OP's fault. We can't judge without knowing who he's talking about... and since telling us would be totally against the rules of discourse here, we never will.

This is a great thread... it has Exotic Touch Danielle's avatar pic .Yummy! Oh right, back on topic perhaps the OP should have do a real life test and gone to see ladies of all different price ranges. I certainly have, and as stated here already it just speaks to the type of experience that you may have. That doesn't mean that you will enjoy any one experience better either just because of higher rates. They are just different. There are some ladies that are out of my price range right now that I would love to see what that experience is all about but that will have to wait for now. I certainly don't begrudge them asking the rate they charge. Thats just what it is. H

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Pigale is rather busier than the Ottawa clubs, depending on what time of day and what day of the week you go, so it can tend to feel a bit more impersonal. However, the CR is relatively more private compared to Ontario clubs. Nuden especially has a very open room for its main floor CR.

This happened 3 times to me today!! Pain in the ass!! I noticed this happens mostly via email.

I am upfront on my website about what I offer and do not offer, and I remind my guests during our first session together. If at any point a gentleman is unclear about something, I find it very respectful when he asks me. I dislike the "I'll just go for it and see if she stops me" approach. Please, just ask. Communication is key to a wonderful experience together!

WHAT!?!?:shock: Sure, now I can easily see SP's who are 25 to 30 and not feel like too much of a dirty old man but what about when I'm 90? A 75 year old SP would suit me just fine.