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As a companion who charges in the price bracket that seems to bother you, I'm going to weigh in on how absurd your thoughts sound. I have charged $350+ an hour for 5 years, I have NOT raised my rates yet real life expenses keep up going up. Airfare is at a high, advertising has gone up and all the little life expenses have increased. I offer an experience, a life escape and genuine connection with those I meet with. I open myself up and put myself in a vulnerable position letting strangers (albeit screened, yet still strangers) into my personal space and allow them to share intimacy with myself. YOU have NO right to tell any woman her donation is two high, whether she is charging $200 or $600 an hour, its not your right to complain or question it. YOU have NO idea what it is like to work a day in my shoes and to be honest I doubt you could handle what any of us do in a week let alone a day. The average NICE suite in Ottawa during the week is $250+ a night and why would one just book a normal room when they are spending a few hours with an individual? I really don't feel like fighting for the only desk chair in my room with the gent I'm spending time with. As well to be a quality upscale companion, one won't be booking at the super 8. The experience, The company and the location all weigh in on this aspect. I'd love to see the reaction of the gents I spent time with when I tell them to come see me at motel 6 :) I have had several professional photos shoots over the years, the average price being $1800 for all but one of them and even then it was over $1000 in the end. Im sorry but in business, when one is selling an elite item such as themselves, you don't settle for a $500 photoshoot. Im not calling you naive, however if a woman has invested in professional photos best to assume she's invested in herself and her donation will most likely reflect that. Its people with the thoughts and ideas such as yours that appal me, you have never been an escort, sex worker, companion or courtesan - you have an opinion and a one sided one at that. Because I charge more per hour, does not make me a "gold digger". Far from it, I am very generous with my time and with ensuring that my guests leave happy I spend hours everyday on emails, most that are just on social levels saying hi or where are you this week - and all this is unpaid - yet I would not change any of it. And yes myself like many others took offence to your first post and your second one - I can't imagine what answer it is that you are seeking?

If you'll all forgive me, I'm going to digress into a meta-post for a moment. Some folks have expressed the opinion that we really shouldn't be having this conversation and rates should never be questioned. I agree that it's inappropriate to question any individual provider's rates, but... I think there's significant value in having a conversation about rates in general. I've seen it in the past, but I don't think it has happened recently. That means there's probably quite a few people who are reading this for the first time and, therefore, benefiting from it. Yes, the rates can look pretty high, especially if you're new to the industry - but as Pete said, if you think they're bad here, take a look at what you'd pay south of the border. What we clients often don't understand immediately is how much time providers spend on things for which they don't get paid directly (which hasn't been talked about much in this thread), and how much money all the behind-the-scenes stuff costs. I'd like to thank the ladies who took the time to give us some idea of that - and Mia in particular. Guys, remember: the person you're spending time with is like a swan. She may look serene and beautiful on the surface... but there's a hell of a lot of paddling going on underneath. Okay, that's enough discussion about the discussion. As you were!

So what? You think we are in it for love or something? lol

Hello fellow Lyla Members After being here for five years, making my 1000 post yesterday plus seeing a little negativity lately I feel it is a good time to share my more than amazing experiences since 2010. If your a new member I will be giving some tips for having some fun visits, most of them have being written here many times. Before I met anyone I always tried to learn as much about them as possible, I read their bio's here on Lyla then check to see if they had a website. In my first letter I always tried to be as polite as possible giving the Lady as much information as possible at the beginning then more afterwards if a visit got booked. I never questioned her rate for companionship and if possible I brought along a small gift if it was possible. If the time I visiting someone was around a special time I always tried to be prepared for that like a Birthday, Valentine's Day or Christmas. My heading "Expectations" can be an elephant in any room. One of the biggest reasons I feel I had amazing experiences pretty well each and every time after doing my homework was I always brought the biggest smile with me and then go with the flow. In life everyone wants to be greeted with a smile, our ladies here on Lyla are no different. My second tip is respect, my parents drilled this into me, there comment was, respect is a two way street you give and you get it back, I have always treasured this with the ladies I have had the privilege to visit here on Lyla. The two simple words smile and respect can make any visit spectacular. Going back to the word expectations, I guess what I am trying to say I never really had any, I was indeed a very curious man and in thinking back if I have had any they were surpassed a hundred fold. At this time I would like to thank a few ladies that have being more than kind to me since I joined here. I will mention mostly ladies in my area that I have visited a couple of times plus a traveling lady I seemed to connect with a little more than others. Two of the Ladies I got to visit early in my adventures were Emily Rushton and Cara Silver, these two ladies gave me the confidence to enjoy my future visits, thank you ladies. Other ladies I am so grateful to are Katherine, Lady Sophia, Jocelyn Ardenne, Jordan Munroe, my visting Lady from Montreal Gabriella and last but not least Miss Carley Chase. At present I have made the personal decision to be quiet in visiting with one exception. I know the problem of mentioning names is someone could get offended, if I had the pleasure to meet you and not mentioned your name I do remember pretty well every one I have had the pleasure to meet so thank you for visiting PEI. The sole purpose of this post was thank all the ladies I have had the supreme pleasure to meet since joining plus try to give out a few hints/tips on why I feel I had nothing but a splendiferous time over the last five years, ladies thank you immensely. In closing gentleman, smile, be respectful, try not to get great expectations in your head and go with the flow, when you then look back at your visit I am sure you will be more than happy plus pass any expectations. Triple HHH

Ya...I just got stood up on a confirmation:( What I find most odd is that our comunication only started 2 hours ago? Why oh why do ppl do this? Like how much could change in 2 hours that u cant send a simple txt? So now I am out that fee plus turned away one! It happens to the best of us..provider and hobbiest. Shake my head and move forward is all I can do. No point in letting it ruin your day, just wont give a second chance unless a cancelation fee is offered. In hobbiest case, if the lady aplogises allow her the oppurtunity to make it right for you. Additional Comments: Yup just had my second no confirm with not a word of cancelation or an I am sorry txt.! Wow If I was insecure....I might think I am being toyed with?? Off to the hair salon I go....spend more cash on being the perfect ME I can be! Sigh....at least I dont count nickles or dimes yet!

While I have some problems with the way the OP asked his question I think I agree with Phaedrus that some benefit can come out of the dialogue in terms of helping people understand more about what's involved in working in this industry and that there is a lot more to it than just showing up for an hour. Additionally reminding ourselves that regardless of what the rate of compensation is people deserve to be treated with respect for the choices they make for themselves is important. Just my Opinion

Considering that we cannot have threads about ladies who have ultra low rates and /or undercut....not sure why it is ok to discuss those who choose to market themselves accordingly.

I am educated, clever and love to laugh, elegant, playful and I love what I do. My touch is shivering and my eyes are seducing. I stand 5'4" with long dark brown hair, nice natural C cup, soft skin, sweet kissable lips and personality you will love. Lets relax, unwind and then play together in a nice calm, private location. Step into my world of pleasure and let me pamper you. I will be in Saint John on Saturday February 13 I will be visiting Moncton on February 14 and I would like to be your Valentine. Call or Text anytime 506-262-8350 Ella xoxo

Well how nice of Lady Sophia to mention lovely ladies. But oops, she neglected to mention herself. She travels though Moncton on a regular basics and I am sure with the right incentive she might be convinced to visit you. Be grateful if she does as she is New Brunswick's Queen of Hearts !

I am so so so tempted to add this today: For f-ck sake, for once that ladies can have THE job in the world where they will ALWAYS be paid MORE THAN MEN, knowing all the unbalanced/unfair salaries out there between men and women, and a man still wants to complain about it?! Yeah, our price is our price. But if we want to be very practical about it and cut it down to how much it would cost minimally in an hour, why not trying this exercise? I am sure we will go OVER 300$/hour very quickly. Alright, here it goes: - A regular massage by a registered therapist or in a beauty spa by a non registered therapist, nothing else, is between 75 to 125$/hour and more. - The cost of paying personal company for people who need it (for example seniors or disabled people whose family pay for individuals to provide them with company, meaning talking with them only, not offering any care, just checking if they are OK): minimum of 15$/hour in Ontario. - The cost of education that distinguishes a lady (I tend to think that we are not stupid, whether we have diplomas or not. Intelligence and an elegant attitude, as well as having the ability to entertain guests is not related to studies we might have done or not, but if we have, it is another cost that can be considered in trying to "making the price right"). Most of us have degrees or are studying. So the cost of having stimulating conversations with a lady thanks to education (sometimes compared by some gentlemen as talking to a therapist): minimum of 120$/hr - The cost of location: MINIMUM 200$/night. Minimum. If we talk about upscale location, it goes up fast. - The cost of personal care: although we are beautiful, we do not wake up with our hair, make up, nails, skin looking nice and smelling good. We need to take care of that. Hair dresser, nail salon, tanning salon, beauty spa, products, perfume etc... Name it. These services/items are very expensive. Let's say: 200$/month minimum - The cost of clothes and shoes and lingerie, bags (you do not want us to wear plastic bags, don't you?) very expensive. You don't want to see us with the same outfits all the time? No: minimum of 200$/month to renew wardrobe and lingerie. Just one piece of lingerie can cost 200$ ! - The cost of a gym membership (we have to take care of our body!): let's keep it simple, if we go to the YMCA: minimum 55$/month - The cost of special toys, accessories, anything related to play and protection: these stuff are expensive, especially if we specialize the type of games and toys: another 200$ minimum /month (my personal minimum expenses in this category) - Cost of hygiene products at your disposal, laundry to offer you fresh and clean towels, bed sheets, and buy new ones if needed etc...: 80$/month (my personal minimum expenses in this category). - Drinks or appetizers that can be offered by ladies to gentlemen in some meetings: I sometimes offer crackers, cookies, drinks. Let's keep it minimal with non alcoholic drinks: 30$/month (my personal minimum expenses in this category). - The cost of professional photo shoots if a lady does so: the average cost for such a photo shoot session ("package") is 1200$ (I have looked on a few websites, this is the average cost I noticed, it can be more or less, of course) - The cost of advertising: a minimum of 50$/month. It can go over 200$/month and much more depending on when, how, where the lady advertises, and the frequency/numbers of ads purchased. - The cost of travels, to go to you in the same city, or if a lady is touring. Between plane and train tickets, or gas, it can go up very quickly: varies a lot from a lady to another, obviously. From her rent cost if she hosts only, to several thousands of dollars in a month if she travels all the time. - The cost of communication tools and time involved in communication with you (not only "you", of course...): monthly phone package, website, internet etc... Hard to put a price on this as it can vary a lot but, it is more money again. My minimum cost: around 115$/month, not counting the time put into communicating with gentlemen. I must be forgetting some other costs here for sure! Add all these costs, and you will understand that it is not only about getting up in the morning, putting panties on, and posting an ad randomly somewhere and voilà! Nope. It does not work this way. So, yes, how surprising that it takes money to make money! But most most most of all: what is the real cost of one hour spent with someone who will take care of you wonderfully and make you feel special? How much for this? We give the most precious of ourselves at many levels. Breaking it down to money only does not even cover it all! And about expressing an opinion: it is not about the fact that the OP expressed an opinion in the first place. It is about HOW the OP expressed this opinion. Very different! Having a degree in communication, and being proud of it, I believe that it makes a huge difference when considering discussing such matters.

Discussing SP or MA rates in public is just rude. We do not have to justify our rates. Too expensive? Shake it off, and pass to the next.

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Hi folks, I had been seeing the same SP since 2008 - at least once a month. Always a pleasant experience for both, so I thought, until...... Our latest date didn't happen. I arrived at her incall location, waiting in car park and texted her, as per our usual routine. And waited.. and waited. Zippo. Having other commitments later that evening, after 45 minutes, I texted her and said I was leaving. Later, I got a short text that she "felt horrible" and that she got the day mixed up. Stuff happens. The no-date was disappointing. I could understand if this was a first time date and we got the wires crossed, but after seeing the same woman for 70+ dates and getting no apology or explanation, was much more disappointing, even hurtful to an extent. I didn't expect any special treatment or anything, but getting absolutely nothing was unexpected. Perhaps that was my error - not managing my expectations properly - even after so many dates. I'm all for second chances (and more). But when the SP doesn't provide an explanation and emails/texts go unanswered, there isn't much else to do. CM

I have seen her, and I had a very good experience. Not a clock watcher, gave a few free extras. She also provided personal recommendations Additional Comments: There are a lot of good reviews on her, plus she provides personal recommendations.

First time back in awhile and my first thought is.........fuck, I'm glad I wasn't drunk and opened this thread. Prices in this biz are all over the place. I have paid 180-300 per hour and have regretted not a one encounter.Would I go higher? Actually, I would go higher before I'd go lower. Unless a lady is just getting into the business and looking to build clientele, there's a chance for a deal on an undiscovered gem, but it's a crap shoot. For the record, my most memorable encounter was my most expensive one...........and I repeated, and will again. Tried and true works for me. Vegas would chew me up and spit me out. Now.......back to the rum and the blizzard in NS.

Hello Gentleman! Are you wanting some attention? Not getting what you need at home? Come see me for your massage and play session. Get in touch for more details. I'm hosting in Saint John. Safe services always! Please use discretion while communicating

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Hi all! Just an announcement on what to expect in the next while. For the next few days I won't be able to book any appointments. Under the weather physically and need to rest up. Now, in the next coming months I will be offering a discounted rate as I am looking to move in a more adequate environment. I am looking to move to an apartment that is much more comfortable for myself and anyone that I host to. I'm looking to live in the south east area, still close to where I am currently located. Sorry for any inconvenience in advance. Can't wait to be better! Peace and Love ,Brody

I am pleased to be offering a new experience! A soapy bubble bath . I will wash and pamper you, relax, lay back , I will take care of you. Perhaps even dip in with you. Then allow me to dry you off in a warm towel and take you to my massage room heated and ready for you to relax in bliss. Many of you have experienced my skilled hands and loving touch. In this room many options can be explored. Everything is up to you, how hot do you want it? Our time may end here after you are happy, happy!! OR... Then at your choice you may again take my hand and make those few steps to the next room . The door closes behind us. Why anything can happen now. This is now your time , a bath , a massage and me. PM or text for details. 902 456 8694 Lyla Members please let me know who you are. Katherine

Your original post clearly indicated that based on your opinion paying more than $240/$260 for a hour with a lady in this industry was not good value for YOUR money ... fine you are entitled to your opinion but let's face it your approach to expressing that opinion clearly took a swipe at ladies who charge more and frankly that undertone is clearly articulated in your "golddigger" comment... no wonder you place such a low value on spending time with these ladies you have such a low opinion of their character. You may not agree with their business approach and you may think that they are not worth the money they are charging but how about at least showing some respect for them as people... they like you and I are going about their lives trying to support themselves and their families. What's the outcome you are looking for from your post??... it appears you have a very strong opinion about what ladies should charge... what their expenses should be... and every other facet of THEIR business. Perhaps you want the job as customer ombudsman for the Sex Industry the guy who will stand up for all us poor little guys who are getting taken advantage of by the big bad ladies in this industry... Let's get real the majority of the ladies in this industry work extremely hard to make a living... you have heard several of the ladies outline their expenses and frankly very few leave this industry rich... sure it pays for school or supports their family or allows them some extras that their regular job does not allow for. The professional ladies in this business have made a choice to take control of their own employment... to decide for themselves how they work and when they work... they offer a very personal and intimate service to us men so of course they should be free to decide what they want to charge you or I or any other guy for that matter does not have to agree with that price... they can make a different choice that reflects their personal situation. Just my Opinion

Lemme break it down for you: Upscale incall location : $1200-1500/m (Toronto) Nice lingerie: $240 (how much the last lingerie set I bought cost) Professional photos: $350-$1000 every 4-6 months Website design: $200-$1000 Personal grooming (waxes, manicures): 1 wax every three weeks=$65; manicure: $30-60 (every two weeks) Time spent doing admin: between 10-15 hours a week--this includes updating and interacting on social media, answering emails, updating ads/website etc. Advertising: A base ad on EROS is $60; Turd charges something like $75 for three weeks. A burner phone for work: Ugh, I don't even know. MONEY. It costs MONEY. That's close to $2000 grand in expenses ON THE LOW END OF THINGS. Or did you think we all rolled out of bed perfectly coiffed, manicured, plucked, waxed with magically free incall spaces waiting for you to call us? On top of which, none of us need to justify our rates to you. Please crawl back under the rock from whence you came.

that's like asking why one car manufacturer charges $35,000 for a vehicle and another charges $350,000 for a vehicle. The answer is (drum roll please, lol) because each is different in their own unique way. There are many factors to consider when looking at someone's rates. Location, desirability, looks, experiences, and much much more. What our rates are is up to us to have, and generally speaking, most of us are in the same range. If you are looking for a luxury experience, then you are going to be looking at luxury rates. Just like as in a $35,000 vehicle isn't going to have the same features as the $350,000 one, you get what you pay for.

I must have the worst luck. LMAO! I spoke for most of the afternoon yesterday with a well known SP, arranged an appointment and was ready to go this morning. I even booked the morning off. I texted when I was told to and no answer. Time of the appointment came and went. No reply. The SP has great reviews on LYLA/CERB. Answered every question they asked and even referenced another SP I use. They contacted her and verified. Everything was good to go. Time of appojntment......no reply. Any time I ever was going to be late or something came up I have always let my SP know. Not let them hanging. Maybe they had something come up or even changed their mind. That is ok too. Just let me know so I am not waiting around. Additional Comments: I am almost tempted to quit this all together. If I am curteous to them, all I ask is the same?

It isn't up to you what an sp can justify charging. You can choose which ladies to see or not see, but please do it with some class. Judging and calling someone out publicly for the value she places on herself is uncalled for. Just move on if she is out of your preferred price range. Clearly not everyone agrees with your assessment of her value or she would not be able to charge that price.

Our rates vary ... maybe some charge more because they provide a different type of service...I do charge extra for fetish request... My best advice to you or anyone for that matter if the rate she charges is too much for you then just thank her for her time and move along and find a lady with a more reasonable rate that suits you...there are plenty women with a variety of rates and services It's whatever works best for you...

To the OP, bear in mind, a lady has the right to choose whatever rate she wishes - it's her body, her time, her choice. If you don't like it you have two options: 1) Save up until you can afford her rate 2) Find someone who is in your price range However, please don't complain; it's just bad form.

Dude ... you are gonna get eaten alive in this thread. Why does anyone in any trade charge more than anyone else?(hows that for a wordy question?) If the market will bear your prices... why not? Some girls really are THAT hawt and THAT good.... dudes will pay it.

Lena was very professional. She answers the phone herself and offers to send you additional pictures to confirm you are interested in her. I went with an outcall so the location was not rated. The photos she sends you do indeed accurately represent her. Without getting into too many details, I was happy with the hour long meeting. YMMV. She is clean and all services are protected. If visiting in Vancouver she is worth looking up!

Oplontis and more.

Rubin tugger makes a great point about being a salesperson. I am in sales and if i told my customers they would have to prepay before they come to my store ....i would not sell too much product. You have to want to take that chance. Have good adds and do a good job selling customers once you are with them.( remember it's not what you want but what the customer wants) Hopefully you can break even or profit from your trip and set yourself up for a good client base for future visits. I would also suggest staying in Brandon for a few nights.

Not on CERB but porn star Keisha Grey has the best ass ever....

Additional Comments: Current fav hottie, Anastasia Shcheglova

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A k-girl is a young attractive Korean lady who is schooled in the art of SOPAM (standard operating procedure - Asian micro). Korea is noted for producing these kind of high-quality escorts, just like when you think "quality cars" when you hear "Germany" or "good wine" when you hear "France". In Wpg we have two such agencies I know of: VIPOTG and Lorihouse. These agencies sometimes bring in other Orientals ( Japan, China) also schooled in SOPAM but IMHO the k-girls are best. But do see Haruko when she comes in, she's Japanese (j-girl) and is fantastic. TER has a whole forum that discusses k-girls: theeroticreview(dot)com/discussion_boards/messageList.asp?boardID=113

Following nsguy76's logic (thanks for that!), "healthy" fried chicken, fries, and onion rings with pop

Pork tenderloin roast with vegetables...

She is one sexy lil vixen, very inviting and her eyes will seduce anyone. One hot lil rocket Miss Brooklyn is! I have worked with her many times she is a gem.

Perhaps Ella Gale would peak your interest? She is a classy lady who I am sure you will be glad to know very much a freindly and inviting lady! Always pro and exciting! Broklyn Styles, lovely and always classy. Jordan Munore for xxxciting times. Katherine of hfx also makes an apprearence from time to time..more to come with lovely ladies traveling like Amelia Fox . also I see Danielle arriving soon! Also hear great things about Carmen Rose in Saint John. There are many wonderful and trustworthy ladies here:)

I did a duo with her once, and she has an amazingly beautiful body. drooling......

The funny thing I've read on some other forums - "I won't see a lady who charges less then $250-350 per hour, as if she charges less then that she is high volume". So we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Do you want to go with a McDonald type business plan (sell lots of hamburgers for cheap) or with a Keg type business plan (sell quality meals at a higher price). Really its up to you. Well said Mia. Personally, advertising is much more for me then $50 a month. I pay at least $100 just for backpage, $100 for another forum I'm on, plus some other advertising expenses. Thats without the basic banners you see on the top of page. If you want those here on lyla, these are the prices: PACKAGES Package including - Static banner button (Right side column) - Chat room Banner - Main forum rotating banner Package Prices: - $150.00 for 1 month - $300.00 for 3 months - $850.00 for 12 months *Sponsor a city with any of these packages for a additional 10% off! Now, if you travel, you have to pay the other sites similar prices as well. Yes, I can get away with basic advertising, just put a basic ad on BP, a free ad on lyla - but then again, do I want to be basic? Lingerie - I had to start all over getting new lingerie when I moved here. I had at least $1000 worth left behind. So, each month, I go out and buy some new pieces. I've spent at least $600 so far on my outfits - and that only counts for 1 pair of shoes. If I bought a pair of shoes for each outfit, I'd be well over $1000 just for the 4 outfits I have so far. I don't go cheap on these. For my civilian clothing I go cheap but not for playtime. Accomodation - Fortunately, I am able to rent a shared in call. So, I only have to pay per call. However, the lady I rent from, her rent alone is $1400 a month. That doesn't include hydro. She supplies all the furniture, bedding, towels, soaps etc. The furniture alone is well over $4000 to buy. Yes, I could do my calls at my personal residence, or I could rent a cheap place. However, it's not the same. The place I use is a spacious retreat, a place when I go and it feels like a piece of heaven. I don't have to bring anything but myself and my supplies. The guys love it, and for a lot of them, its nicer then where they live, so they enjoy being in an upscale location they can relax in. Beauty treatment - I'm pretty basic. I've never had a manicure or a pedicure. However, I know a lot of the ladies do this on a regular basis. Hair, nails, waxing, makeup, tanning, tattoos, piercing. These things are all really expensive. Its not like I can go to the salon and get away with a 15 haircut. Hell no. I know barbers are cheaper, and thats what guys go for for themselves, but not this girl. My tip alone is $20 for a good cut and colour and my last cut and colour was $140 plus my tip, so $160. Make up - have you ever priced this stuff? Even going with the bargain brands - you can't get out of the store for less then $100 if you need to replenish your supplies. Most of the ladies go for the quality stuff - there is a difference in quality, so the price is much higher. However, at the end of the day - I have rent to pay, groceries to buy, gas for my car, insurance, maintenance - all of these things are there whether I do a call or not. So, I have to cover those expenses. Fortunately, I get a monthly check that covers most of this (not all, but most), so I entertain gentlemen so I can cover the rest of my expenses, plus have money to live - so I'm not living month to month. I'm pretty frugal, so I don't need to entertain a lot. That is my choice and decision. However, for the women who are actively pursuing this business to pay their student loans, saving for the future, or whatever goal they have, of course they are going to charge what they want. Anyone who criticizes or whines about a ladies rates - especially in a public forum is really showing what his opinion of the lady is worth. Its sad really.

Why? Why not. Why did you choose 300$ + ? Why didn't you start, let's say, at 500$ + ? You are not to ignore that in some "high spheres of society" some people would smile at your question. For some people, 100$ is a lot. For other people 5000$ is nothing. This is relative. Does a higher price guarantee that you will have a "better service"? No. And what does "better service" mean to you? If what a lady charges is too much for your budget, as suggested by previous members, move on or wait until you can afford a visit. If all communication is done politely with respect on both sides, nobody will be hurt in the process. And by the way, about the ladies who have a website, they usually have information and rates on it. So, it could avoid you some surprises, wouldn't it? So, tell us, Dear OP, what was the real point of your thread? Fun provocation, just curious and amused to see our reactions, or you woke up with a really bad mood because sometimes the world does not make sense to you? No offense...

Wow! You said you've been on Cerb for six years now? Did you think all expenses were going to stay the same? Come on now! 150/200hr doesn't pay for hotel room, let alone all other expenses we have to cater to our beloved friends. So ask yourself, six yrs ago were you making the same wages you are now? I highly doubt it. Lol.

I think they need a new and correct title. Anti-sex trade means everyone in the sex trade however this focus is on trafficking and exploitation. I won't lie and say I'm not concerned people will read that title and perhaps skim the rest and then they start reporting providers, strippers etc.

I am skeptical of any East Indian providing a good massage and also a HE. Its not in the culture. There is nothing special about an East Indian proving this service ( no Kamasutra here). These services are non existant in Wpg. Maybe Toronto or vancouver but not here. From what i have read, service is a hit and miss (more misses than anything). Its a waste of time. Save your time and money and try Route 90 or some of the Indy girls. My 2 cents.

I agree with Cinelli - a general rule of thumb for me is NEVER to have someone to your house, even if you know them, stay away from this practice. It's only a lose lose situation.

The initial welcome is very important, it sets the stage for the rest of the evening. Nothing says welcome more than a bright and warm smile. A gentle hug, a smooth transition inside my home and some interactive small talk. This gets the mood flowing, and gives each other a chance to get to know each other a little better, if it is a first encounter. Regulars are treated with the same welcome, but conversation can be a bit more casual. I offer refreshments and massage to everyone that visits me, it is a great way to set the mood, and gives each other a chance to explore each other. I really dislike the 'in and out' quickie, it is very mechanical and rushed. I like my guest to feel as though they are the most important person to me at that moment.

Hey y'all. I am a very new member, and I am not on this site much at all.I have taken the time to look at other review sights to do my research on any lady that I am thinking of seeing. So far I like this sight the best, because there is very little drama that is in the other **ERB sight. there are many things I can say about that sight, but another time. I have a thing for redheads with green eyes.so I researched all of them and finally settled on Cyrena. Fyi there is a lot of information out there fellas.....aside from the other sights, do your own personal research. Her pics are real aside from a few extra pounds lol, but her 'assets' are magnificent and real. She is eager to please and truly enjoys what she does. She is easy to talk to and talk with, funny, bright and very pretty. She is open minded to most fetishes and actually likes some of them a lot. As I had only brought enough for the GFE I couldn't partake of her other types of sessions, but believe me I will try her other sessions for sure. In short, I had a great time, eager to see her again in the near future smile emoticon:)

I hear you. My wife and not only no longer kiss, we don't have sex either, going on 3.5 years now. She doesn't want to separate, so I search out warm passionate sps to fulfil my needs. When I meet with an sp for the first time, I rarely go for the passionate kiss as soon as I step through the door. I prefer to get to know her a little first and gradually transition to kissing.....I guess I treat it like a first date, the difference being that the outcome is known.

As one who usually sees ladies in my hotel room I open the door, let the lady in and we greet with a hug and kiss once the door is closed. As a sidebar, I keep doors (bathroom, closet, bedroom if a suite etc) open and lights on so the lady can see for herself that there is only me in the hotel room, no one else A very early morning rambling over cup number one RG

If they are working out of a hotel, the fear is that housekeeping is there instead of the guest. That's why some hide behind the door if wearing a revealing outfit. Always a big hug, a sexy kiss, and an opportunity to take off their coat, shoes, I love doing a little twirl to let them see everything, then off to have a great game of naked twister.