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2 pointsI don't frequent SP as much as some people here, but when I do, I always look for a good review. However, Claudia's ad caught my attention and I couldn't find any review on her. So I TOFTT. Initial texts and set up with Claudia was good. Replies were not as prompt as I'd have liked, but I was glad I didn't dismissed her. In retrospect, maybe I was too impatient She was honest when I asked about specific stuff she said it depends on how comfortable she is with the client. I give her credit for her honesty instead of just saying what the client wants to hear. Anyway, I set something up for an hour. So, I got to the room and with my heart pounding not knowing who will open the door, I knocked on the door. Claudia opened the door and I was glad to see that she was really the girl in the picture ad. Claudia is a young very pretty SP. She is somewhat petite and hmmm her body is one of the best I've had a pleasure of touching She said she is 19 but her service equals that of more seasoned SP. She can carry conversation well, playful, and very open. We spent the hour having fun. She has a GND look, but she is a wild one (in a good way). Overall, I had one of the best sessions ever ! If you are on the fence about Claudia, don't be. She is the real deal. I think with more experience, she can be one hell of an SP. My first TOFTT is a success and I will repeat for sure!! Link: http://kingston.backpage.com/FemaleE...night/37243188
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2 pointsEveryone is going to have different feelings on what risks are acceptable to take and which aren't. Others can tell you what the generally accepted recommendations are, but whether it's worth it to you to wait or avoid certain activities is a very personal decision. The recommended schedule for maximum immunity for both Gardisil (HPV) and Twinrix (HAV & HBV) are three shots over the course of six months. Ideally you should complete the vaccination schedule before becoming sexually active. These are preventable infections. But as humans we very often decide that taking on a bit more risk is worth the benefits, and that's a very normal and okay decision to make. I can tell you that your risk of contracting HIV through kissing is non-existent, and the risk from unprotected oral sex is low. Realistically your risks from kissing are HPV and HSV (herpes, which there's a very good chance you already have, as many people get cold sores from casual contact as children), and other stuff that isn't generally considered an STI, like mono and colds. Your risk from unprotected oral sex is primarily around HPV, HSV, syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia. Even "safe" stuff like massage carries some small risk of transmission of STIs like HSV, HPV and syphilis, which are all transmitted through skin to skin contact. Basically, if you're going to be sexually active in any way with another human being (sex workers or non-sex workers), you have to accept that there will be some risk, but this is true of all things in life. The best you can do is educate yourself about the risks and then make an informed decision about how to mitigate your risks and what is acceptable for you for the trade off, which is the fun, pleasure and connection of being sexual with another person. http://www.uptodate.com/home has lots of good information that is aimed at both lay persons and health care provider. Follow through with seeing someone when you feel confident that you understand what your level of risk is and feel okay with that. No one else can tell you exactly where on the spectrum of risk you will fall, but I think that we can all say that you'll have a lot more fun and feel far better about your encounter if you sort out your anxiety about STI transmission before you book. Good luck!
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2 pointsAn emotional connection makes everything better. As stated previously, having a longer appointment gives you time to get to know somebody and connect. My preference too is having somebody I can talk to and enjoy there company. That is why I started to do this. Aldo, I always go for older men as my preference. In my personal life and in business as well. Maturity is an asset when it comes to taking the time to know somebody.
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2 pointsOlder men value intimacy and that really turns me on. They really know how to please a woman in all ways and for that reason, I really connect with them. I love older men at least 5-10 + years older than myself both in my personal life and in what I do for a living. I will marry an older man one day.
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2 pointsThis would be why I like longer encounters! Connecting with someone and enjoying interesting conversations is awesome! Wam Bam is a definite downer!
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2 pointsHaving that more intimate and positive connection makes it well worth it! I enjoy being with those who enjoy me on all levels
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2 pointsWelcome. I think as you travel through this site and start reading some of the threads here you'll find that most of the ladies here who have established themselves in some way (not in and out as finances warrant) very much enjoy the connection with the people they meet. I know I for one love when I meet someone I connect with on some level whether it's small like an interest in a certain tv show or character, book or musical artist or big, being able to open and let your passion for something flow is amazing. When you can laugh, joke or tease or have a serious discussion while cuddling it's a great feeling. Humans are here to connect with one another and SP's are no different. Glad to see you've enjoyed some amazing experiences!
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2 points" The donation is for my time only..." This sentence says it all. It is always the "hobbyist" that request an encounter and ask the SP to be available for him. And it's a duty for the hobbyist to inquire before he ask what he can or can't expect from the SP. And what happens during the encounter does not rely "only" on the shoulders of the SP. Chemistry, feelings, perceptions, expectations, and so on, between two strangers cannot rely on only one side. So, it is obvious to me that when I request a date with a SP, I will pay before hand every penny that was agreed on. Some SPs will wait few minutes to allow the hobbyist to be sure that he still wants the encounter to happen; but even if this is the practice of the SP, the duty of the hobbyist is to pay the full donation. After all, the SP that has accepted to meet the hobbyist at his request, has already given a lot of time to prepare herself, and has blocked a few hours and may have refused to see other hobbyists.
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1 pointLadies? Maybe you have shared some of these feelings in regards to the way we are frequently spoken about.... I have been working in Ottawa since December. Previously, I had been a dancer and had not ventured often into the provider side of things (outside the club of course, I don't believe in Strip Club extras as it's unsafe and in poor taste. I go there to perform) For the most part, my 5 years as a worker of the adult industries has been a great, lifechanging experience. Where there was a lack of confidence, I grew into a strong and bold woman. Where there was a shyness, I now shine in a crowded room. Where there was anxiousness, there is now a re�������� calmness. People don't really understand what it's like to be in this industry. They don't know what it's like to be constantly judged, picked apart, mocked, looked down upon.... Actually, they probably do. But that's probably the most quizzical part of the problem. We are not as worthy because we are shameful in our choices. Do I agree with this? Absolutely not. But not everyone has lived the same path and so I understand that to some people there is no forgiveness in our liberties. Now... I would consider myself a partial libertarianist. I believe that we should be free to do with our lives what we will so long as we do not hurt others. But more importantly I'd like to add that I believe in the power of also caring for yourself, and to always seize the opportunity to better the planet whenever you can. So, now that I've introduced this... let me clarify a few points. I have overheard that I "...come across as a real hustler." If you mean that I am overly ambitious and have strategized a way to multimarket myself to broaden my overall impact on the industry? Then yes, by all means... I am the hustliest hustler ever. But I treat people very well, provide light and attentive interactions filled with laughter and sensuality. I entertain with flair. I will never stop driving towards my goals. I have overheard that I have "...some sag in (my) boobs", "...some sag in her belly as well", "...kinda floppy" ..... May I add that these were comments from people who have indeed admitted enjoying my service in the same reviews? I get it. People can be superficial. But people have also loved my breasts, despite the fact that you didn't. I am getting a breast augmentation not because I want one, but because it hurts to hear people constantly pointing out my flaws, no matter how wonderfully we have gotten along during our session. I have overheard some lovely things! From some people who have backed me up and said that I'm doing a great job and they respect me. People who have applauded my need to become an advocate for the industry. People who saw beyond a shallow misperception of who I am based on judging me by my outershell, or a small glimpse of a slightly grandiose personality via the internet. Why all the negativity? And it's not just me! People feel comfortable talking to me, which is fine. I shall never judge nor share those things... but the fact is that they tell me similar awful things about other dancers, providers, women, friends, girlfriends. I don't like it. Can we all please just try to be a little more human? And girls, stop taking advantage of, or mocking clients in the same way. We all just need a little happiness sometimes, so why not make it easier to find?
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1 pointOk thats harsh especially when there are several reputable touring ladies as well as a couple of well known and well liked local ladies. But the reality is the majority of ladies on BP are either fakes or are so bad at advertising they are turning away potential client with their fake and stolen photos and the lack of good information in their post. Ok if you are looking at a new ad of an unknown lady use tineye AND google image search to verify every photo. Then go a google search of the phone number (eg search on 'xxx xxx-xxxx escort review' to see what pops up. Try to find a mention on the local board here. I have seen ad after ad fail the tineye test, fail the google image test. I have found ads using other SP's numbers. Its truly pathetic now. Stick with the tried and tru until things get better
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1 pointYou absolutely can't go wrong with Felina. Having seen her on a few occasions, I can guarantee that you'll have a great time. She's friendly, understanding and a ball of fun. After the first 5 minutes I was at ease and having a great time. Seeing her the next time around, there wasn't an ounce of nervousness or shyness in my body.
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1 pointHello Gentlemen and partners in crime... I am available for incalls this Wednesday. To book, please fill out my form at chloe-summers.com I look forward to meeting you... -Chloe Summers.
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1 pointA gentleman who will accept a compliment from a lady saying "Thanks" instead of saying "I bet you say that to everyone."
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1 pointThese types of incidents are known to happen at pretty much any night club (stripclub or otherwise) on peak nights (Friday and Saturday). That being said, I've been a pretty regular visitor of Barefax for years now and I've never heard of this type of thing happening on a Wednesday, let alone as early as 6:30pm. If I had to guess I'd say this was a fluke occurrence, and would have been just as likely to happen at any club. Even Playmate had to eject some people after a fight broke out at their Christmas party this year. And back when I was a frequent visitor of Barb's I saw similar incidents go down at night time. It shouldn't be seen as a reflection of Barefax or its staff IMO. You get enough drunk people together in any enclosed location, these things will occasionally happen. I think you can still go to Barefax on a weekday day time or early evening and not worry about getting shot or stabbed, at least no more than at any other day time stripclub.
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1 pointI think what Northern Guy was trying to say is that it seems you put things in the wrong order therefore should wait. If you are concerned about becoming active and what vaccines you should or shouldn't have, you should speak with your doctor FIRST and see your lady second. This is your choice depending on the level of your concerns and the risk you assign to the activities you will be participating in. Only you can make that decision. There is nothing wrong with getting the vaccines after your appointment provided you will be participating in safe activities. This is also providing you won't be worrying about this before, during and afterwards. If you are highly concerned and assigning great risk, I would say cancel the appointment with apologies and perhaps an apology gift (as this is your concern and it should have been dealt with prior to an appt), talk to your doctor and be safe. Mind you this is all dependent on how far off your appointment is and if you have time prior while still maintaining it. I hope everything works out for you.
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1 pointI think what is most important is how you feel with the lady...how safe and comfortable she makes you feel while you are with her...yes of course the setting should be comfortable and safe as well...I personally just hate and get highly offended when my in call location is sometimes judged based off the fact I am not in a high end location or there maybe a neighbor outside enjoying the wether or what not...but hey that's his loss and another's gain of course
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1 pointMost of my encounters have been at my hotel room. Hotel because I have to travel to meet a lady...yes I'm a touring gentleman LOL That said, irrespective of whether a date is at my hotel, or a lady's hotel/home/condo my feeling of safety is dependant on the lady more than anything. If I felt unsafe seeing a lady at her place I'd feel unsafe seeing her at my place too. A rambling over cup number 2 RG
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1 pointI don't care in the slightest what a client looks like. I like to know in advance if a person has any accessibility needs or physical issues that I might need to accommodate, but my interests in physical descriptions are purely practical and focused on making a session the best it can be. Really, the only physical thing I will take issue with is hygiene, as I feel that, unlike things like weight, race, conformity to conventional standards of attractiveness, etc, hygiene is something that everyone has control over and will directly impact our interactions.
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1 pointI've had good service from Munden's Moving. They were careful, professional, and courteous.
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1 pointI just wanted to take a moment to formally recognize Meaghan for the wonderfully supportive woman she is. I have noticed many instances lately where she stepped up to help others, offered advice, leant an ear, offered personal support and resources and even posted to try to keep others safe. She has always been this way however, lately, she has really stepped up her efforts to reach out to those around her and really put herself into this industry. Thanks for all you do Meaghan, it does not go unnoticed!
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1 pointThere are many discussions and threads on the new laws. It would be a great idea to read them so you can understand the laws. Once you understand, you can go forward. A brief synopsis: Those that are working outside, under aged, trafficked, involved in drugs, and other similar scenarios, are being actively watched by law enforcement - as they should be. Cape Breton had a sting last year for street workers, http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=220832 . Halifax is well known as being an area of the country with under aged providers. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=230373 http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=230276 So, stay away from "car dates", 24/7 - party friendly, Just turned 18. These are red flags, and you need to be aware. BP and craigslist are the places that seem to be used to advertise them - not that everyone that uses these sites are - its just that they don't last long on this board, as it is a tight nit group watching out for each other. It is legal for providers to sell their services - it is illegal for clients to purchase them. Therein lies the quandry. Most providers no longer advertise their specific services and sell time blocks only. I.E. 1 hour Companionship. Gone are the days where we could specify what we provide due to various parts of the law. You will notice the legitimate providers do not ask you over the phone or via written communication what you would like to do in the time period (specific services). Follow their lead. If it is a sting - LE will ask you what you want for the money - if you don't identify specifically what you want, they will continue to ask you until you say I want $x for oxo. Just don't do it. Don't ever contact a lady and ask if oxo is included in the time together - you have just solicitated a service, which is against the law. Time and companionship. So far, as from what I have seen, it seems that most clients if caught in a sting are sent to John School. Again, the justice system is mainly going after those that are forcing others, pimping under aged, using violence and drugs - they are the ones getting real time. There are some amazing ladies in NS that are well recommended. Start there. Look at the advertising section on LYLA, look at the recommendations, view their websites. If you have any questions specifically, ask. Good luck!
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1 pointI've been following this site for a long time now, and it is amazing how often the same, issues, concerns and complaints come up. Things that should be obvious often are not. I thought it might help if I compiled a summery of some of the more common concerns for the newbie section. Hopefully it will help get some of the new gents to the hobby off on the right foot. There may be some here that don't apply to all people or situations, but these are some of the more common ones I have seen over the years: 1. Do your homework first. Nobody likes to have to spend time writing out answers to questions they have already provided answers for on their website or ad. 2. Be respectful during the initial contact. Being abrupt or rude is definitely a bad start. 3. Don't be too explicit. The laws are such that everyone is restricted in what can be said. Some are more careful than others with this, but remember that you are simply compensating for her time. That's all. Asking for anything more specific will often get you no reply at all. 4. Don't haggle. This is not a flea market. Nothing kills the mood faster than telling someone that they are worth less than they think they are. If she is out of your price range, move on politely. 5. If you have to cancel, let her know ASAP. Life sometimes gets in the way of the best laid plans. Their time is their source of income and they have promised some of it to you. At least give them some notice if you won't be able to make it. If you can't give notice, consider offering to compensate her. It has already cost her the time, whether or not you were there. (E-transfers can make this super easy.) ....And just not showing up without letting her know at all is so incredibly disrespectful and uncool. (and a sure way to get yourself black listed.) Just don't do it. 6. If you are sick, cancel. Nobody wants your illness. (But see number 5) 7. Hygiene -It shocks me how often this one comes up. It is for your own benefit to not have her repulsed during your time together. Take a shower and brush your teeth as close to the appointment as possible. If you can't, then ask if she has shower facilities. Many do. (But remember it is on your time.) oh... and wear deodorant! 8. If she asks you to take a shower before hand.... take one. It means one of two things. a) She has a policy that all clients take one, or b) you smell. Either way, it is the same answer: Take the shower if she asks. 9. Respect her time. This means being on time, but not early. Not always easy to be precise, but do what you can. If you are late, don't expect that she will let you stay later to make up for it. Also, don't expect her to be ready early just because you showed up early. Remember, you have an appointment. Respecting her time also means leaving when your time is up without having to be asked over and over. 10. Have the envelope ready at the beginning of the date. Don't make her ask. It kills the mood. I just place it on the dresser or table as I walk in. They can address it or not as they see fit. Of course, all of these points can be summed up with two words: "show respect". If you use that as a guideline, you can't go wrong. I know there are some points that I have missed and some that not everyone will agree with. Remember, this isn't my list. It is a compilation of the most common concerns I have seen since I started following the site. Feel free to add to it if I have missed any.
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1 pointGreat kisser and extraordinary massage + Highly recommended on CERB also. See recommendations under her name. Additional Comments: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=222239
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1 pointSomeone is spreading a rumor about Lyla so I am just posting this here to reassure everyone that the rumor is not true. Male members are NOT going to require paid accounts and we have NO INTENTION of every doing that! It may be some other site and they are just confused with the name but I can assure you that Lyla has no intention of that.
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1 pointwent to Pembina yesterday was nice seen Cindy. Did leave happy except you are right on Pemina and you can hear the traffic
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1 point1. EC. And this one. And PERB. 2. Depends who you ask. 3. Depends what you are into. The most recommended locals are generally mature women (just read through threads, or do a search of a name you've found). If you want someone younger and you're new, try a well-recommended traveller, generally from Korea, China, or Quebec who is in town for around ten days. A word to the wise. There are two reasons to use this site. One is to find "the best" SP for you so you have a great experience, but even more importantly, it is to avoid a truly terrible experience: not merely lackluster service, but anything from flakes and no-shows to scams and violence, robbery armed and otherwise, and potential involvement with LE. There's a shark in the water, and next to it crocodile, and along the bank, a tiger. So, with that in mind, a broad tip: do not answer any ad on BP unless you have found recommendations from someone trustworthy (there are ways here of gauging that) and/or checking pics on TinEye and/or searching for matches of phone numbers. While there may be legitimate reasons why someone keeps changing their name, or why multiple SPs may be sharing a number, it can also be a red flag.
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1 pointJust going in and not paying the sp before the session starts isn't the same as the sp voluntarily telling clients to not pay her until after the session. To me, this is forcing her to ask for it, and when she does, he makes it quite clear she will be punished for doing that, by leaving. So she's in a really tight spot, the guy who is there versus the guy she can no longer book who does follow her payment policy, but she missed his call due to this character. So, again, just because you do not present the payment in advance and forces the sp to accept it after the session is NOT the same thing as her knowing how to comfortably ask for prepayment. Saying that "lots' of sps take payment after the session is meaningless, to me, without a list of names of sps, to give them a chance to come in and say 'that's not true' or "i did that one time, because I was too scared to force the issue. it worked out OK, but now I know to not be too shy to ask". Maybe you could just list all the websites you've found where the sp does NOT say 'please present the donation at the beginning of the session", or all the many, because there must be tons of them, websites or ads that say, please pay me after the session, I prefer it that way. Did you ever see the HBO series Cathouse? Did you ever once see any of those sps do anything other than chat with a guy before he decided what he wanted, they got the rate settled, and she makes sure he pays? And if he wants more or extra time, doesn't she say, oh, let me take care of that before we proceed? Each and everytime, in that place, prepayment. Hundreds of sps working there, thousands of clients, and no one is post paying. And that is one single location. withpassion, you have NO idea what is running thru the mind of the sp who thinks she isn't going to get paid. It is a really aggressive thing to do, in the minds of some sps. It can also be slightly humiliating to have to ask for it, or to be handed some cash, after the fact. It is a HUGE reminder that this was a paid encounter, when really that part is or should be the last thing you should be ending any session with. And yes, you ARE telling all the guys that they should be doing exactly the same thing, in other words, sending a message to force sps to comply to your demands on this issue. I don't know why you don't see that for what it is, unless this aggressive behaviour is blocking your view? Clients and sps both say it is a bad idea, for the sp, that it is actually detrimental to the quality of the experience, but somehow you like that stick or the carrot of post payment. Others disagree, and you seem somehow offended by the fact that no one here agrees that post payment is actually 'normal' lol Normal to who?
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1 pointDo you think maybe those two things are related, just not the way you think? If thanks to your behaviour the session begins with the SP actually having to come right out and remind you about paying the fee before you'll pay her at the start, then some of that "YMMV" you refer to elsewhere may have kicked in... and you may find the session goes a little more tortoise, and a lot less hare. (Plus, it sounds like you'll have decided that since she asked you to pay up front she must not be "relaxed, fun and for real," and you've maybe gone all pouty and ill-disposed. Little wonder things seem to go poorly on those occasions.) Look, the women here take enough personal risks every day in this profession. As clients, one of our first priorities should be to never contribute further to those risks if we can avoid it. One of those professional risks is guys who dick around about the fee -- negotiating, pleading, or looking for a way not to pay at all. The fact is, when you don't produce the agreed-upon fee up front, it's not clear whether you're planning to pay at all. You've imposed risk on your provider where none was needed. I'm frankly stunned you can find anyone who agrees to this arrangement. Treat your provider with respect and remove that particular risk from the equation. In my experience, paying smoothly and up front establishes your own trustworthiness, and helps gets everything off on the right foot. I'd personally be ashamed if I ever considered doing otherwise.
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1 pointThe fact that you insist it makes it more enjoyable for you without knowing if it made the experience more enjoyable for the providers is interesting. As Cleo mentioned, it brings power dynamics into play. Remember, we get paid to pretend to like our clients, no matter how distasteful they may be, especially if the rent is due or our kids need braces. I can assure you, until a providers trusts a client, she will be focused on whether or not she's going to get paid. It would make me question if the providers you choose are desperate for work and therefore vulnerable to your demands. The key is that you wouldn't know if that was how she was feeling if she was a professional. As a client, that's not a question I would want to wonder about given the nature of the service at hand. It would make me wonder why she would allow this, why would she take this risk? There is a reason, I guarantee it and it isn't because she trusts you given she has never met you... cat
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1 pointBut when you go to pick up your car without paying, they don't give you the keys and you don't get your car back! This is a ridiculous statement to make. I would love to see what would happen if hobbyists started walking in and refusing to pay for service first, I really would. I am a provider that is fairly relaxed about the timing of fee collection and I have been screwed over many times because of it back in the day. Now, I have provisions in place that if a client screws me (without paying), it will bite him far worse than it will hurt me. I can also say that the first time clients that have stiffed me intended to do so before they ever walked thru the door because I have never in my career promised services I couldn't or wouldn't deliver. State upfront that you intend to pay on the back end and see how many appointments you get... cat
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1 pointHas any other SP noticed that the longer the list of requests in advance the higher the odds that the client will NOT show up for the date? I have noticed that it makes no difference if I agree to all or some or none of the requests, the longer the list of advance demands, the lower the odds that the client will actually show up for the date. Personally, I no longer read long emails or texts of demands. If it looks like someone had his hand in his pants while typing, I delete. This one policy of deleting anything long or graphic has done wonders to cut down on the no show problem. An email or a text to an escort should not look like a submission to a porn magazine or porn website. What I found is that some clients are wonderful and it is a pleasure to spend time with them and some clients are total nightmares whom I would never see again for any amount of money. Most people are somewhere between the two but more are close to the positive end of the scale which is why I am still here. No email or text list is a substitute for meeting the real person in the flesh. It is impossible to access what will happen until such time as you meet the actual person. You cannot get an estimate on your car repair until the mechanic meets the actual car. Your experienced long term service provider Valerie
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1 pointGuys haven't been fooled into thinking this is the 'norm', this actually is the norm. It changes the dynamic when the sp is afraid she is providing the service to someone (new or regular) who may not pay her. I am not sure how that 'dynamic' is going to be a good thing. An sp who isn't going to provide certain services, isn't going to provide whether you prepay or post pay, and what are you going to do if you don't get what you believe she promised? Not pay the fee you agreed to pay when you made the appointment? Are you going to have her shout and berate you when you decide you aren't going to pay her what she told you was the rate before you made the appointment? Are you prepared for her to follow you out of the building, take down your license plate, and post your name, # and car on the internet because you ripped her off? or are you simply going to pay her the fee in full. And if you are going to do that at the end, why not just do it at the beginning, and get an sp who is not tense and afraid that she is going to be, yet again, ripped off? I wonder how you think you can get away with that, when someone is charging for her time, and you spent the time with her in full lol To me, the only sps who are ripped off are the ones who accept post pay, and the only guys who are going to rip off sps, look specifically for sps who take payment after. One of the worst things any reviewer can do to any sp, especially if she is new, is mention in the review that she takes post payment. The only exception that i find acceptable to sps who do a post payment method are sps who work in a spa, massage parlour, with others, because the client comes in knowing she has backup, the place has security cameras, and so on. I still think it is a bad idea, and mp attendants still get ripped off due to this sort of policy, but at least there is more than one vulnerable sp in the place with a client who has decided to not pay. Additional Comments: Not every business is like this business tho, and for that matter, many estimates from a mechanic, for example, rarely matches what you end up paying even tho the work done is the same work agreed upon lol. It doesn't matter if they take and put away the payment. It doesn't always matter what they said (or texted or emailed) prior to the booking. You are meeting a new sp, and assuming she did the booking, it might not be true, or it might be she doesn't connect you with the questions she answered before. She might be confusing you with the guy who didn't want DFK. So what you do is face to face prior to handing over the money, is go thru that list of things that got you to the door. Most sps in your area have a money for time set up, not a money for specific services set up, so if you get your time, there is no opening to ask for a rebate. If you don't get your time, or there was an extra charge to go from GFE to PSE (which I take from accompanied showers, DFK and toys could be the case), then you could ask for that amount back. If she doesn't upcharge for toy show, then no, there isn't any amount you can ask back because you have not been charged a particular specific fee for that. you see where I am going with this? Communication gets you to the door, but once you are inside that door with a new provider that you don't know how credible her promises were, you just run thru them again face to face minutes before sessions starts. She can't avoid not providing something, if she promises it directly to you, she can't be confused about who she is seeing who was asking to do more, and who asked to do less, for example.
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1 pointMighty Pen's words speak truth. There are times a provider hasn't prepared for the appointment by keeping track of requests. That would require keeping records and that is something quite discouraged by hobbyists. I don't provide a menu or promise a single service when I book my appointments for this reason. If a guest has a check list of activities that must take place during the playdate, I'm not the provider for him and I'm clear about this upfront. If a guest let's me run the session the way my intuition tells me he will leave smiling and completely satisfied. Walk thru my door with specific services demanded and you will be shown the door but I don't keep the envelop. I think it's dirty money at that point and brings no good to my life from a karmic level. A good provider trusts her instincts and if her spidey sense is tingling, the agreed upon services are at her discretion. She needs to be honest about why she won't provide the agreed upon services if she wants to make the appointment work. Won't kiss? Probably a hygiene issue at hand. No shower? She has probably booked appointments after you that weren't on the books when you set up your appointment and won't have time to redo her hair after you leave; or she feels it's a bad judgement call from a safety perspective. There are a 100 reasons the menu will change. Has the contract been broken? Yes. Is she required to give you a refund of some sort? No but if she's smart she will make it right. It's good business to be honest and keep clients happy. This business is only viable if you can build repeat business and violating the agreement doesn't accomplish that... cat
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1 pointIt is a business unlike other business'. In short, no there is no claim to a rebate etc. Ethically, yes but highly unlikely she would give back any $ as she likely lied in the first place to get you in the door. The other thing is if you have conversed with the SP via email or text, you really don't know if it is the SP you are conversing with. Some have 'Booking Agents' that handle these details.
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1 pointThe first thing to do is communicate well during the appointment. Maybe she's forgotten some of your favourite details. No problem; bring up the topic of the missing bits with a smile and a laugh, and guide her and the session on the course you had discussed. If you haven't established friendly, positive back-and-forth communication with your provider, then that's your first problem right there. Then again maybe there's some reason why, now that the moment is upon you both, she doesn't really feel comfortable following through. Again, communication during the session is key. Raise the subject in a friendly way to make sure she hasn't forgotten, and if she's not comfortable with X, work together to find another way to have fun that works for both of you. But ultimately, if all of your discussions to resolve the problem fail, then you need to remember that the contract between the client and provider is solely for time spent together in which things will probably happen, but there's never a guarantee. She's a human being, not a vending machine; your money gives you no claim over her body. So all of those details you discussed are requests, but there's never an ironclad guarantee they'll be fulfilled. If you ultimately aren't satisfied with a session, and your conversation with the provider hasn't resolved that to your satisfaction, then just don't go back. Chasing after your money with "but you didn't do X! Give me Y dollars back!" is crass and fruitless. And, last of all: don't compare sex work to other industries. The comparison is always misleading when it comes to these types of up-close human interactions. Your SP is not your mechanic.
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