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SK: Manitou Beach is a really unique and amazing experience. It's a small resort town on a lake that's saltier than the dead sea. You can swim in the lake or at the large pool/spa that's fed with lake water. They also have a historical dance hall that hosts many fun events. MB: If you enjoy food, while you're in Winnipeg, eat at Segovia even if you do nothing else. It's one of the best restaurants I've ever been to. Wellman Lake campground in Duck Mountain is gorgeous, and is right on Glad Lake, which is one of the clearest lakes I've ever seen. You'll probably be coming through too late, but on the off chance the season is still on, going to the snake pits at Narcisse is an incredible sight. It's the world's largest gathering of snakes - thousands (millions?) of garter snakes gather twice a year in giant mating balls. Gimli, MB is a very charming Icelandic town on Lake Winnipeg. Lots of small touristy and historical things and just lovely scenery. It gets quite busy and full of people during the summer weekends. Nopiming Provincial Park is just wonderful if you like being outdoors. Lots of lakes and paddle in camp sites and such. Parts of it may be on fire right now. ON: Kakabeka Falls just outside Thunder Bay is spectacular. In Thunder Bay is the Cascades Conservation Area. It's an easy hike to a stretch of rapids with some spots where you can swim. Eagle Canyon has Canada's longest suspension bridge and zip line. Ouimet Canyon Provincial park is beautiful - the canyon itself has some beautiful rock formations and a micro arctic ecosystem at the bottom.

I am learning later in my life than I would have thought that there are lots of things about our existence that really suck and as the title to this thread says "not in a good way"... throughout my life I have generally been a very positive person always looking for the good that can come out of any situation and while I still like to tell myself that is the truth I do in fact find myself more and more in a foul mood about my life. I have often heard it said that in the tough times in your life you find out who your true friends are... and you know finding that out more recently in my own life really sucks

Looks like this thread should be called 'commando' instead. As so am I.... yeehaw! :-)

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We can argue until we are blue in the face about what one "should" or "shouldn't" do, but at the end of it all, it is really up to the individual as to what they actually do. Some people choose not to disclose for a number of reasons, including how they identify, and what they perceive the risks of non-disclosure to be. Others may have weighed the pros and cons and decided for themselves to disclose. If it is that important to you, then ask politely during the booking process. Also, on that note, please respect someone's choice as to whether they disclose this information, or how they go about it. Some may indicate it on their website or ad, and some may choose to disclose that information on a more personal level, such as by email or during a phone call. It always irks me to see threads asking about a provider, because if it's not publicly disclosed, there may be a reason for it (including safety), and generally these discussions use shitty, transphobic language.

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I assume that you'd be using the TransCanada Highway starting in BC. One of the most scenic spots that you'd come across and which you'd probably know already is Banff National Park area. Apart from skiing in the skiing season, a visit to a hot spring should be part of your agenda if you have not done so. If you prefer a less commercialized touristy area like Banff, a short detour to Jasper National Park will be a fantastic choice. In that case, you'll be heading North on HW93 which is also popularly known as Icefields Parkway and voted as one of the most beautiful highways in the world. Along the way, you'll come upon the magnificent Columbia Icefield and the Athabasca Glacier which you must stop and hike out to visit. Coming upon wildlife such as a herd of rams is a common occurrence while on the Icefields Parkway (HW 93). This area brings back a lot of unforgettable and fond memories...

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I totally understand how that happened... there are just some things that when you see them you just lick your lips (or theirs) and say that I have to taste.... But I guess I understand your point .... I mean as a child we grow up with Disney story book images of animals that we later enjoy eating... I mean if your image of rabbits was from Disney's Thumper or maybe the Velveteen Rabbit it's unlikely that at the sighting of a real wild rabbit that you gonna think hmmmm can't wait to get my mouth on that.... yet while not a big fan of game animals I have in fact recently had a strong desire to eat some rabbit... I guess my Disney days are over :)

I have also often pondered why it was that a person put their mouth on another person's...*prrrrivate parts*..... but I am for damn sure glad they did .. and that it caught on <grin>

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We are now only six months into the Liberal majority government mandate and I am beginning to wonder. P.M. Trudeau has indeed already met some of his election promises (which is great) and there are indications that other promises are working their way through the system. I am very nervous and scared that they will ratify the TPP and that will be yet another global screwing of Canadians in order to support big business and the multinationals. On a level more pertinent to members here, I have yet to hear any indication that the Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act (Bill C-36) will be repealed, amended or even sent to the Supreme Court for interpretation of its legality. Perhaps this is in the works and understandably its probably not something that they want to publicly acknowledge, so I still have at least some minor hopes for action. I have for my entire adult life communicated with my local Member of Parliament or the various Prime Ministers and I always received a reply, if even only a form letter, until the Harper government took office. Since then nothing. I even occasionally had a phone call about whatever I wrote about from my M.P. Following the election I wrote under my own name to the Prime Minister Mr. Trudeau, the Justice Minister and Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould and to my local M.P. about the legislation based on Bill C-36. I received not even an acknowledgement so perhaps our present government is in reality little different from the past one. To my knowledge which is based solely on following web sites of the organizations that speak for sex workers, there is no lobbying going on to keep the subject in the mind of government at a Canadian level. I follow as best as I can P.O.W.E.R, Maggies, Stella and P.I.V.O.T., all of whom made presentations at the hearings on Bill C-36. My position prior to the legislation was that it will be responsible for the deaths of women. I still believe that to be true, primarily for street workers. I cannot help but wonder if well established sex workers who do actually screen for their personal safety are not on their very individual level very happy with the legislation as it now exists. I certainly do not see SP's here being at all vocal about the legislation other than to use its existence as a way of telling clients who they can actually trust. As for Mr. Trudeau and Jody Wilson-Raybould I shall be a bit more patient and see if their, "Sunny Days", indeed is real.

No luck there for me. Agreed for me to be nude, but no touching.

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I see no harm in it. And having the thread public will hopefully save them answering the same question over and over again. Or at least, a bit less.

Well, for starters, the legal fees. It is not cheap to bring this all the way to the Supreme Court. Secondly, the previous challenge was based on harms experienced by the plaintiffs. A new challenge would have to be based on harms, which IMO is going to take a client coming forward, since they bear the brunt of this law.

This is an incredibly complicated question that depends on a lot of individual factors, as well as what we believe it means to be "physically a woman." If you're asking if it's possible for a trans woman to be consistently read as cis (identifying with the gender they were assigned at birth), even by people who are physically intimate with her, then the answer is yes, absolutely. This isn't true for all trans women, and not all trans women care about or want to be read as cis. Not all trans women are interested in bottom surgery. But it is definitely possible for some trans women. Hormones can have a very dramatic effect on the texture of skin, distribution of body fat, body smells etc. Vaginoplasty and labiaplasty surgical techniques can construct genitals that self-lubricate, are orgasmic, and that you could not tell by look or feel were surgically constructed (and keep in mind that there's a lot of variation in the way that vulvas and vaginas look and feel.) Things like genetics also play a huge role in how hormones influence the expression of typically male or female traits. There are plenty of people who naturally look very androgynous, have very little body and facial hair, fine bone structure, high voices etc. And for people who figure out that they're trans very young, puberty blockers can completely prevent the "wrong" secondary sex characteristics from developing. I think in discussions like these we also need to think very critically about our assumptions about what makes a person a man or a woman. Culturally and socially there are a whole lot of assumptions about these categories - assumptions about biology, never mind things like social roles and expectations - that are just plain inaccurate, and fail to account for normal human variation. Biologically, females produce eggs, males produce sperm. That's it - that's the criteria for an individual being biologically male or female. Things like hormones, secondary sex characteristics, genitals, and even chromosomes do not define our biological sex. While we can say that certain characteristics typically go together, we all fall on a bell curve, and those tail ends of the bell curve are still part of normal human variation. So a few examples: Androgen insensitivity syndrome can result in someone who is genetically XY to develop phenotypically female. They may be assigned female at birth, identify as a woman and never even know that they are XY. Poly cystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) is very common among women and one of the symptoms for many people is growth of facial and body hair that is coarser and darker than is typical for women. While most people will have either XX or XY sex chromosomes, some people are also only born with a single sex chromosome (X or Y) or three or more sex chromosomes (polysomies - for example XXY, XXX, XXXY, XXXXY etc). At birth babies are typically assigned a gender based on the appearance of their genitals, however, a small percentage of people will have ambiguous genitalia at birth. They may have their genitals surgically altered shortly after birth - usually to resemble a typical vulva (not best practice, and often considered a human rights violation), or may grow up with genitals that don't resemble a typical penis or vulva. They may or may not opt for surgical reconstruction as adults and the gender they were assigned at birth may or may not fit their actual gender identity. Beyond biology, we also should think about how the ways we are socialized influence our ideas of who is a man or woman, and what is feminine. Largely, western ideas of femininity and beauty are strongly constructed around white European phenotypes, cultures, and beliefs about class. It's not just trans women whose womanhood and femininity is constantly challenged, but also women of colour, most notably black women (see all of the awful comments about the Williams sisters' bodies as a prominent example.) These messages about what constitutes valid and real femininity are everywhere and deeply ingrained in our cultures. We are not at fault for internalizing them but I do believe it behooves us to look critically about how these ideas are influenced by things like racism and classism, how they are built on false beliefs about biology, and how these ideas harm and constrain us all. Trans women often bear the most severe consequences - discrimination and violence - of these narrow definitions of who is a man or woman, and what is acceptable femininity, but all women and men are impacted negatively by them. If you've ever felt insecure about your masculinity it's these very ideas at play, and you too would benefit from us collectively reexamining them.

"I'd like to know" is not the same as "I have a right to know". There's always an element of the unknown when you're meeting someone new. Pics vary in accuracy. Sometimes things like tattoos and piercings may be hidden. Personality is always hard to judge before you actually meet someone, and things like chemistry are downright impossible. For those who think this is a big deal... why not simply ask? Yes, you may offend someone - you'll have to weigh up the pros and cons of asking for yourself and decide whether it's worthwhile, or whether you don't actually need to know after all.

So my question horndog is, how much of an SP's past to you feel that you absolutely must, or have a right to know? If she has transitioned to being a woman that's who you are going to see, however you seem to demand the right to know her past...... Hmmm, so If she has some STD's in her past do you want to know that as well? How about if she had a child and carries stretch marks or had her vagina torn? Or if she has a criminal record? Any and all of these are high probability within the SP community. How people choose to make a living in this business is driven by a multitude of issues in their past and so my advise to you would be to assess the person for who she is right now and for the rest of her history it's not really any of your business unless she chooses to reveal it.

It's quite obvious from your post that it's not about their safety or anyone else's but YOUR COMFORT, so I fixed your post for you. And before you get all riled up about the insinuation that you'd cause violence, well, no offense, but men who are "upset" by "scars where their dick used to be" are usually the ones who get violent. A transitioned trans woman, or a trans woman who has had top and bottom surgery is under no obligation to disclose to you. If you are so insecure about your own masculinity that you need to know if someone used to have a penis, you need to deal with that shit yourself.

A person's surgical and medical history is literally no one's business but their own. If you are not okay with the possibility that someone might have something in their history that makes you uncomfortable but has zero real impact on you, then you should both do some personal reflection on your internalized homophobia and find a different hobby. Trans women and sex workers, particularly trans women sex workers, are already at incredibly high risk of violence, criminalization and poverty. The idea that they owe anyone any explanations about their past and medical history is ridiculous, and increases the likelihood that some entitled person is going to be violent toward them or out them and damage their business. Trans women sex workers are extremely aware that there are people out there who would be angry if they found out that they weren't cis. The "trans panic" defence has been successfully used by men who murdered trans women, as recently as 2005, in the case of Shelby Tracy Tom (and possibly more recently.) When a trans sex worker decides to not disclose her status, she is making a strategic risk-reward evaluation and business decision. There are very specific expectations that most clients who see trans sex workers have, and that almost always includes having a penis that gets erect. Post bottom surgery, it makes pretty much no sense business-wise for a trans woman sex worker to advertise that she's trans. And for those of you who have outed trans women on this site - and I have seen it happen, stop it. Cut that shit out. You are placing the comfort of strangers on the internet over the real life safety and privacy of a vulnerable woman. That is not an okay or humane decision. Trans women are women. Full stop. No woman owes her clients information about her irrelevant medical background. dragon66_61: Have a little respect, and treat trans women like human beings instead of objects or animals. It is never appropriate to refer to someone as "it" and I can't imagine what would make you think that was okay. If you can't recognize the humanity of sex workers don't see them. Find another hobby and stick with jerking off. 500 Pound Gorilla - being trans has nothing to do with sexual orientation, nor does being a sex worker who has male clients. There's zero reason to assume that a trans woman was having sex with men prior to her transition/work.

If she has fully transitioned, and physically is a woman, I see no need to disclose at all. The customer is getting exactly what they expected. Time with the woman they booked with. If the individual has not fully transitioned, then yes, disclosure is required.

It is my belief that a transgender woman is a woman, and not a man playing dress up or pretend. Nor--and I think this is key to your question--do I think a transgender woman is being deceitful simply for presenting herself the way she is. I gather from your post the ladies you're speaking of have transitioned, and now have a body that matches their identity. I'm glad to live in a society where people can truly be themselves. And if these ladies happened to have some surgeries in the past, well then no, I don't think I as a client would have a right to that information any more than I expect any other lady I spend time with to disclose all of her medical history. I don't mean to be flippant or dismissive. I understand why you'd ask the question and why some might struggle with this topic. But when you say "many unsuspecting clients would be very upset if they found out that the person they thought was natural woman used to be man", my thought is that is their problem, not hers.

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