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This thread is reminding me of a economics course... Suply and demand lol

80-100 is not the norm....it's more like anything between 100 and 140 for the HH and 200-240 for the hr....i get suspicious if it's under 200 as it's usually TGTBT....i'll gladly pay a little more if i know i'll get a full hr and that it will be worth every dollar.....so anything between 200-250 is ok as far as i'm concerned....above that it becomes more difficult, only so much budget to go around.....simply put you may charge whatever you like, it's all up to you. Whatever you charge will dictate how many are willing to fess up...just my 2 cents but from what other guys tell me, the general feeling is about the same, over 250 it's too much when you know you can get a great HR in the range mentioned above. It's not to say guys will not partake in the higher range fees but it's obviously not as frequent.

Maybe it would help if we'd say what we find apposite in terms of recommendations... Here are my thoughts about it: If it is after another poster has asked a question about a lady then answer the question from your perspective. Eg: "I" love sweet but bratty ladies, I find xyz just kills me with kindness yet manage to keep me on my toes. "I'm a shy guy, abc was wonderful at putting me at ease from the get go as she had a great smile and no rush attitude." Unless you have repeatedly been seing a lady, remember to anchor your comment in time: She had a great smile, she took the time to... Rather than She is a lot of fun, she's insatiable. You do not know if what you are bringing up is a constant. Regardless of it being a positive or negative element, you do not know if it is a trait. You can only comment on YOUR experience. If it is to contribute to the community and thank the lady after you had a lovely time with her then here are some pointers: Keep it short Focus on one or two elements that stood out for you and briefly puttin it in context: "I was having a bad day she made me feel like an old friend I could talk to. She managed to lift my spirits and send me off ready to face it all." "It was my second time with her. I believe I mentionned I craved gummy bears the first time we met. When I walked into the room after my shower, she was lying in bed sprinkled with gummy bears!" Life is full of unforseen situations or obstacles; how was one of those handled? We all have different perceptions on what is ponctual, clean, safe, comfortable so unless you can describe those objectively (within 5 min of apt, freshly showered, well-lit parking, firm yet plush mattress, etc) its better not to mention them. Finally, tell if "I would go again" or "if so and so is something you enjoy, I recommand this lady".

Here is a food review I did a while ago for the specials at Barb's. https://ottawafoodies.com/vendor/2332

Here is a list of pointers I have gathered from experience and from reading threads here since I have started this lifestyle. If there is a woman that interest you and she has an ad. Read the ad and follow her instructions. If there is a website listed, please go to it and read what she has written. In most cases, the website has most of the information that you need, so don't waste her time texting her for the information that is already available. When you are ready to contact her, follow her contact instructions. If you text her, don't just say 'Hey' or are you available. Introduce yourself with a full sentence. Tell her a bit about yourself and ask your questions. If you can pm or email her. Do so, you can type in a paragraph introducing yourself and ask your questions and request. After receiving her reply. If you want to book her her, make your request ask to time and confirm the rates. You may want to confirm with her what services she offers. Remember, these services are not guaranteed, YMMV. Once your apt is book. you need to follow her protocol for giving you her address. You may need to confirm your appointment, the same day or several hours before your time. She will give you the address or a location close to her incall. When you get there, you may need to call, and she will give you a buzz code and tell you her room number. Don't be late and don't be too early. Before you show up. You should check your hygiene, make sure you have taken a shower and shaved and brushed your teeth or use mouth wash. Most women do not want you to use a cologne. If you have any allergies to any products, you may want to let her know. I like to kiss, so I usually ask if she kisses, this is usually based on chemistry. Or if she does not kiss at all. When she has let you into her apartment. I usually let her make the first move as to a hug and maybe a kiss. Maybe chat for a few minutes to get comfortable. Place her donation in an envelop where she can see it. If you need a shower, you can ask her or if she ask you take a shower, do so. She has her own way and has met many men already. So I usually let her lead the way. But others may want you to lead the way. You have to adjust to the situation. Take your time to get to know each other. don't rush and don't force her to do anything she doesn't want to. Not every session may go the way you expect. May not have the chemistry or maybe a bad day for her. Nothing is guaranteed. But if you are a gentleman and show her respect, you should have a good time. But if you don't behave you may be shown the door. Remember she is a human being that is sharing a very intimate and personal time with you. Respect her limits. After your time is up. Leave, unless she has asked you to stay a bit longer, because she enjoyed herself. If you both had a good time, hopefully you leave with a nice hug and kiss and a feeling that you return. If you were happy with your session. You should also write her a nice recommendation. This helps her meet new clients and new clients can have confidence that she is the real deal. If I have missed anything, please add to this thread.

After hearing so many great things, I decided to venture down to The Brass Club to see for myself what all it has to offer. Jessica was a great help sending me on the right track to exactly what I was looking for. Being it my first visit, there was of course the first visit gitters. Thankfully, Madison made me feel comfortable instantly. Her smile, beautiful eyes and general charm are quite contagious, getting lost inside her gaze will give you goosebumps. Madison is through and through a true girl next door, unmatched beauty, down to earth, a real head on her shoulders. Chemistry is something very important to me during a visit and there was no lack at all. Time spent with this amazing beauty will drive you to visit more and more. After a massage with Madison, you will be on another world. A true sensual touch with just the right amount of pressure for those problem areas. She may be new to this but you would never know. Thank you for a spectacular time Madison

The funny ones are the ones who are trying WAYYYY too much and adding everything you've mentionned: -Better than her, her and her (with arrow to make sure we know who shes talking about) -I will blow your mind (yes like all of us will) -Special rates (that keeps on getting lower and lower every week) and have the audacity to write "non-negotiable" when the rate in their title is lower than the rates in the ad lol you are CLEARLY negotiable. -Available 24/7 + party friendly (we get it girl ;) ) -Starting the ad with allll of the NO this and no that (no black, no rush, no drama, no negotiation, no thugs, etc.) i feel the word "no" just sound too negative to start an ad with it! -5star service (who confirm to you that it was 5star? Are you on trip advisor and we don't know about it perhaps?) Im pretty sure i forget many lol but on my part this is what i notice the most.

$200/hr is more than fair. I think the the reason you see more and more MA's is because they are close to this number with extra's. At $200 /hr for an good Sp that gives the edge over an MA.

Oasis Aqualounge, its a sex club in Toronto High mile club the beach in Cuba ( went with an ex partner of mine)

I decided to tune in to the concert last night and I am so glad I did. It was well produced and kudos to CBC and everyone that put it all together as a tribute to to band and to us as Canadians. It was a very poignant and emotional evening for Gord Downie, the band members and his fans especially from his home town of Kingston. I enjoyed Grace, Too; Hundredth Meridian and Boots and Hearts. Godspeed and all the best wishes for his continued Cancer treatment.

Burning all 4 fingers on my left hand! But, an application of honey then wrapped in seranwrap and pain is almost gone! Thanks Hankmed! (Tv show Royal Pains)

just noticed we seem to have forgotten a few 'obvious' places... after all, title says 'places that aren't the b3droom'... so... <grin> <inhale....and go!> front entrance... office desk....living room, dining room (floor, window ledge and table hehe).... bathroom (counter, sink, tub and floor)... stairs <grin> both to second floor and to basement....kitchen (counter, floor, top of dishwasher.....)... back porch (neighbors outside hehe)... basement floor.. top of freezer.. top of washer/dryer ....garage... car (top of and in).. van(up against and in)..... garden and our boat hehe........ There aren't many places I hadn't marked my territory ;)

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Don't review the same lady over and over and over again. It doesn't contribute anything other than to place the poster squarely into the creepy/ocd category.

Those quoted rates sound too low esp for an SP here. Can't comment on BP. I'd ignore guys who question what you charge. Its your choice afterall. From my end, I have an arbitrary budget limit and those providers who fall within that range are those who I contact. Never occurred to me to try to get a deal the way I might for buying a car . To me its more like contacting a lawyer or other professional I guess

Hey Gentlemen my name is Kaylee, I'm new around here and wanted to introduce myself. I am available for your pleasure. I provide a full, hot, GFE service, that will leave you breathless and totally satisfied. I always aim to please and love what I do. I'm a 24 year old brunette with blonde highlights. Green eyes, Stand at 5 foot 6 , 128 lbs with full C cup breasts that will blow your mind. Come and play with me... See You Soon RATES HALF- 120 HOUR- 180

This........ I wanna hang out with this smart Hottie :) Eat pizza, drink wine, be merry and stuff ! (Wonder if Red wine makes her frisky...Meowww ? ) Note to self.....Bring an extra bottle.

Gentlemen let me take you away to a place you've only dreamed to be. My Ass-tonishing massage can take you there. My name is Jennie I'm an all Natural, Caramel Ebony, 130lb, 5'5 tall, 34DD, 26 waist. I am a friendly, fun, caring, beautiful lady who loves taking my time! My sessions are Un-rushed, Relaxing & Sensual. Soapy Shower fun is my favourite! I love massaging and my smile will let you know so! Multiple Options of how to Spend our time Together msg me for details. 28+Mature Gents, Professional, Respectful & Hygenic Availability: Pre-bookings are available Today: August 19 @ 10am-10pm Schedule For Next Week: (Sat. Aug 20th-Sat. Aug 27th): Aug 20 Sat: 10am-2pm Aug 22 Mon:10am-10pm Aug 23 Tues:10am-10pm Aug 24 Wed: 10am-10pm Aug 25 Thurs: 10am-10pm Aug 26 Fri: 10am-10pm Aug 27Sat: 10am- 10pm Location: Downtown Ottawa Clean, cozy, fresh towels & hygienic products, comfortable & upscale. Paid Parking available! Recommendations: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79946 For more information on Donations, Appointments & Services Call or text me 613 218 1969 xo Jennie xo

Are you able to provide more details about the lady and the service?

TELL US WHAT YOU WANT! I am surly not the only escort who has had a mediocre session with someone who refused to give any clue or indication as to if they enjoyed something or not. The blank stare and "Yup" or "okay" to every question... To be honest it gives me the creeps! If you are nervous or inexperienced, let us know! I personally will slow things down a bit for a shy, nervous or inexperienced client, make them feel more comfortable and relaxed... If you look like you are in a state of silent perpetual terror it kind of ruins the mood. If I am giving verbal prompts "Do you like that" or "Want to do this instead"... I'm likely searching for a clue as to what you would like to do most... I won't be offended if a client says "I would really like to do X instead of Y" I want you to have an amazing time! Outside of that arrive clean, on time (NOT 15 early!!!) and respect the rules! Never, ever, EVER, arrive without a confirmed (discussed how long and a set time) appointment...

hahaha agree wholeheartedly ladies... it *is* something that should be included in the 'fun'...... but.. as one who does these fairly often... an actual 'cuddle session' is noooot the same. They are something entirely different from the cuddling that goes on (or at least.. should) after a sexual experience... The typical cuddling after s3x is a wonderful few minutes of raised endorphins.. a euphoric 'high' that comes from the activity of two bodies being so wonderfully physical... but a cuddle session is a whole other world...and is almost 'ruined' if done nude...... There is something sweet.. tender.. 'Matronly'...and, as I said earlier.. 'serene' about these types of sessions. There is NO s3x.. there is no expectation of it... just the need/requirement to be close to another human being.... it's hard to put into words.. but it really is a much more 'nurturing' environment, much different than what follows a sexual encounter... those who have experienced it may be better at defining what it is like for them.... But for me, it is sublime.....ultimate in closeness/tenderness.. and is something that is sorely lacking in almost all aspects of daily life...... The people I see (as I see both male/female regularly) for the cuddling, are not from lyla, but perrrrhaps I should pick their brains a bit.. as to what it means to them.. then maybe I might have insight from the other side. although there have been sessions where the closeness and intimacy that is achieved, is such that it has made more than a few simply cry in my arms.... a huge release.. like no other.. and *not* like the release/cuddles after s3x....from what they *have* said *sigh* and again, so blessed to be a part of that for them..

I took one for the team. Do not pass go. Do not give her 2 hundred dollars. She is not what she portrays. Older and with more vices than a carpenter

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Good morning! I am available today for fun and sexy session. Incalls in britannia Outcalls also available Please no pm Txt only at 613 261 4169 Xxx A bientot Lany

I am definitely open minded and to me this means I like a wide range of things and am always open to new ideas! No judgement...both ways :)

Asking for services before booking a session is touchy... I personally, find it a little bit tacky. I prefer that a session feel more organic: for example if I kiss you passionately, it is safe to say that I enjoy doing so. YMMV is definitely something to appreciate: everyone's boundaries are different with each gentleman: please ask before trying anything that I have not explicitly invited you to do. I am a clear communicator, and expect the same from my clients. If a woman says don't do X, then don't do it. There is not such thing as an accident or misunderstanding in this case. You are sexually abusing her, plain and simple.vFor example, I once told a client, "Id love for you to X, but not Y". He went ahead and did Y anyhow. In that case, I no longer allowed him to even do X. Those are the consequences. Makes me VERY uncomfortable and upset. I consider myself to be socially graceful, but it leaves an elephant in the room for the rest of the session. Experiences like this make me appreciate my respectful clients even more so than I already do :). In conclusion, communication and respect are key!!

Get yourself tested on a regular basis. Many stds have no symptoms.

And don't hesitate to say some compliments to this beautiful woman you just have met. And it never harms if you bring flowers - this is a date after all and you want this woman to be in a good mood :-)

I'm on the other side of the fence.....Last thing I want are 27 pages of recommendations. Especially when it is the same person posting over and over - I get it, you like her, but when someone posts over and over, about the same person, it's almost obsessive. I hate descriptive recommendations. Whether it is about me, or someone else. This is not the Penthouse Forum - I know of some that go over the top. She did not hang from the the ceiling. Yes, it might have felt that way, but reign it in a bit. I met her, she was fantastic (amazing, beautiful, talented...), I will see her again. Thats about all you really need to say. Please, do not rate her like a cut of beef. F: 5/10, B: 8/10, A: 6/10. This is not the Olympics - these women are humans. It cuts when someone rates anyone. Then rates someone else better, but comes back to see the original lady - I really like you, so, can I come over? So, you rated her better then me, but you want to see me now. What, is she unavailable now? Or worse, F: 10/10, B: 10/10, A: 10/10. So, are you now shilling or bragging? I know Lyla does not allow ratings - thank you Mod. However, I see on other sites - they can be brutal. I also understand that for someone starting out, recommendations are so important. However, don't ever ask for someone to post a recommendation so they can get a discount the next time. It's fake and phoney. I've had guys ask if they could post a recommendation for me, and declined them. I would rather no recommendations, then someone who has never posted before on any site, post "I just had the most amazing experience of my life". Guys see through that. I see new girls that have 10 reviews (other sites) from new guys - first post. She then posts "I asked them to post a review". It doesn't work. Give it time - the recommendations will come. xo

I love this thread. My fav is reading available 24/7 Humm. When do you sleep, eat and pee? Haha..

I saw this in an escort ad in Toronto a few years ago: "My buns are like muffins - they need to be buttered and jammed".

Party friendly referrers to drug use and we do not discuss this here or link to ads of anyone advertising this. ... it's not funny and the few idiots who advertise this just add to the bullshit stereotype and that leads to uneducated morons writing stupid bills and making those bills law.

Someone is spreading a rumor about Lyla so I am just posting this here to reassure everyone that the rumor is not true. Male members are NOT going to require paid accounts and we have NO INTENTION of every doing that! It may be some other site and they are just confused with the name but I can assure you that Lyla has no intention of that.

Many of the Indy's also offer shower before and after. It's all part of the fun. I've had many good memories start in the shower. It's one of the reasons that I like to see MA's. Sexy showers are part of the fun :)

In-Room Showers are included in every session, with every attendant...at no extra cost at Vibe.

The 400 Blows :) Ha ha ha...

Mostly weekends, it looks like. I saw her on a Saturday once, and a Friday once.