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For myself, whether giving or receiving.. it's almost the same thing.... When in the role of masseuse, with the 'rules' I have <grin> it is quite possible for me to *fully* enjoy the experience.....<and those who have seen me are definitely aware of this hehe>... and even if there is no desire/need for the client to explore me as I work.. the submissive side of me genuinely receives pleasure simply from attending to every single millimetre of their body..... as well.. with myself being honored with their putting themselves into such a vulnerable position as to be n@ked in front of me.. and *I* am in control of the encounter.. I also derive immense pleasure and feed the Domme side of me.. win, win.. win, I would say <grin> In the SP role.. and simply the way I construct things... it is almost impossible for me to not *genuinely* enjoy myself to cl1max... and again.. those that have seen me may agree.. it'd be tough for me to fake what happens lol I have to commend the mention of the fact that when a lady is 'faking' it is noticeable... always thought is *should* be. but then again.. I've never seen the point in bothering.. hehe I'm not an actress.. I am a temptress.... ;) in either aspect though... it is not always about the destination.. but rather.. the incredible fun that can be found in the journey ;)

Hey guys just want to share a tip I learned for pictures that look too good to be true. Save an image then go to tin eye and do a reverse image search. I found a couple girls who were using someone else's photos this way. I regret not posting my results on here.

While I truly appreciate the effort, I am not really that interested in things not lyla! If I want to view pics I can easily google what catches my fancy at any one moment. There are so many threads and so many interesting topics here that pictures are an after thought in my view :) I love you Cato and Knotch just mho

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People often have the impression that this world is strictly monetary, that all the relationships in it are based on the exchange of cash for services, and that acts of genuine caring are non-existent. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are several women I have met through this board who have been amazingly understanding, kind, and helpful to me when I have been in distress, because of the loss of a close friend, a painful separation, or other bad things that happen from time to time. They listened, they consoled, they helped. I am grateful. I hope you know who I am speaking to. My sincere thanks and appreciation.

...<grin>.. nice subtle way to hint that you wouldn't mind a reco ;) and I would think/hope, my dear.. after so long of being a body worker.. you would already be able to tell/feel how your work is being translated... just by their reaction.. I know I do/can.... as I would assume.. so can most of us...even those who are brand spankin new ;) I think in my entire career, (over 30 yrs in total I suppose)... I have had very few (less than 1/2 dozen) who just 'lay there' and weren't giving any body/verbal feedback... very strange for me, but could have been nerves... only one has not returned ;) It is very nice to read however.. that what we do is being appreciated.. 'celebrated'.... but I have found over the years, that the simple fact that people continue to return to me tells me I am doing something right ;) Being told my hands are 'd@mn near better than s3x' was I think one of the funnest comments hehe..... or that I myself should be regarded as a winnipeg institution..lol..(*that* was a str0ke to my ego for sure haha and was just to me, in conversation afterward...) I made someone see a whole new color spectrum...(likely the most creative compliment so far hehe) I think just as an aside (sort of), one of the most incredible reactions I have had from someone.... and more than a few clients actually... was they simply began to cry in my arms afterward.... saying they were sorry for crying.. and they had no idea why they were... but they couldn't help it..... that, to me.... was (and is) better than any reco I have ever received.... (and to my knowledge... none of these people have ever left a reco for me.... and I'm fine with that) :) Reading a few of the replies from gents in this thread... as well as some of the laies (who do not appear to like recos from their wording).. I can however, understand why someone would be hesitant to write one... - will she be upset if I put *any* details? (which to me, would be weird if there weren't any) - will I say too much/too little? - will she become so popular I'll never see her again? (which I found cute) there were more, but... I think, if you (gents) enjoyed yourself, simply asking the lady if they mind if you post.. should be easy enough - especially after such an intimate setting.. you are friends now.. it's ok to talk about hehe If she says yes, then great, if she says thank you but no... then.. great :) I tell them I do welcome/appreciate posts, but ask that all my *real* info be left entirely out of the conversation. and that seems to be working fine for me and for those who enjoy time with me.. no matter the aspect :)

As a newbie to this hobby, I have yet to receive a recommandation. I respect that not everyone feels comfortable sharing so I'm not bothered by the fact that I have not gotten one from the clients I've seen so far. For massage therapy, 26 years into massage therapy, I didn't need it anymore, I know my worth and I can see and feel on my vanilla clients how the treatment went. However, since I converted to the hobby, I had to adjust to now do exactly what I was not supposed to do!!! As a result, I know a lot of ways to tantalize but I have yet to figure out if I am reading and decoding properly the specific body responses to that kind of touch. I find it funny to feel that conflicting mix of self assurance in my trade and debutante (well ok intermediary ;-) ) incertitude in the Arts of Pleasure. Especially given my new very experienced clientèle! As gentlemen describe in their reco these special moments with words such as epiphany, blissful, transcendental, etc., I can't quite figure yet where what I offer fit in there (and of course, I rather have direct feed back if its anything less than that!) nor how to improve my skills. What gives me the most pleasure is making someone "float" in bliss so I am eager to learn to achieve this in this new plane I engaged in!

An unexpected 100$ tip! I'm getting my overdue haircut!!!

Yes, it was a very unusual time but glad I did it. At the end she must have senses I was a bit shell-shocked and said she could do just a "normal" appointment the next time. She likes it a bit rough, I have not repeated but I would not rule it out some day.

I do manage some of the social group on here and also find a lack of interest to them. Sometime simply mentioning a great picture or comment on there is a good sign, it lets us know that we have visitors on them. So please leave comments or post pictures it will encourage others to post more and it will attract more visitors all together.

There's only a few of the social groups I actively post or share material in. Too time consuming to stay up on all of them, I find. However, I still like being a member of some of the ones that I don't contribute much to because I figure even simply being a member tells people who visit my profile something about me, my interests, turn-ons, etc. For similar reasons, what social groups a lady is part of is something I take note of if I visit her profile page. Taking some at random, if a a lady is part of the kink, foot-worshiper's, uniform & roleplay, or bath time groups, they can all tell you something about possible activities to inquire on/discuss if they line up with your own interests...

I always ask to massage her first. Always. I have yet to receive a refusal, as far as I remember. I think I like massaging more than being massaged, in some ways. Maybe I should turn pro!? My approach in this and all such matters is that the woman's needs and likes are always a high priority. It's a mutual benefit, because it heightens my own pleasure when I think that she's pleased.

She's legit, a bit hard to get a hold of. She's half Asian/Caucasian and definitely got the best of both worlds. Her face is gorgeous. Cute as hell.

Pictures are not accurate she looks like same pictures that were being used for older add sexy redhead in Bedford. When i went to see her and then decided to leave because of the environment and how she was acting she tried to pressure me to stay. Would not recommend.

I have taught tantric couples workshops over the years.. one focusing on yoni (female), the other on lingam (male)... and they are always fun... am actually being prompted by a group of friends to do another one soon... (and find it was very difficult to attempt online... hehe tried it with one couple.. didn't translate well)....but.. in the interest of this thread... I have also found that some people (boyfriends/partners)...are 'hesitant' to massage me...simply because they are not of the same skill....especially, and perrrrrhaps oddly enough, my feet - I am a certified foot reflexologist so hehe.... well let me tell you.. what I think has already been mentioned... we don't care about the *skill*! lol... what human doesn't loooove being softly/intently touched... str0ked... admired.... taken in...? short answer... NONE ;) so long as the person isn't 'pinching'/poking as a method of massage (have had that before.. was strange hehe).. it is aaaaall good :) massage away folks! After all, our skin is our largest erogenous zone... why not enjoy every single lovely millimetre of it, right? ;)

Greetings, Do you fancy a fun and revitalizing sensual escapade? Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Erin and I take pleasure in being your delightful distraction from the day. I'm a bundle of sensuous femininity, with an affectionate aura that comes naturally. I welcome you to check your worries at my door and submerse yourself into my warm and tender care. I'm independently located in a comfortable and discreet location in the west end. My availability: Monday-Friday 10am-8pm. My recommendations: http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showth...t=sensual+erin Please feel free to pm or introduce yourself by email, [email protected]., for the rest of my details. I look forward to hearing from you! Yours, Erin xoxo

Funny! I had not thought about offering a class on Lyla but if there is a need, I might just do that! I still teach semi privately to couples or small groups occasionally so if i get pm about it, I might advertise an event. Maybe even Someguy would want to participate and share his knowledge and tips?

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I always post a recommendation if my experience exceeds expectations and I manage to enter that euphoric zone. I leave with a little bounce in my step and the memory stays with me for some time. Why not share that feeling with others and let them make the choice based on your positive feedback? If the SP or MA made me feel this way they will likely do the same for others. It is also payback to other members of the board who contribute and hopefully helpful to the ladies. I have sought out providers through recos made by others and when they turn out to be positive experiences I find it is fun to follow those contributors as trusted agents if you know what I mean.

and all of us enjoy with gusto!

Thanks everyone. I'm celebrating in Jamaica. Spent my birthday at Nine Miles. Nine Miles is a village in the Jamaican mountains that is sacred to the Rastafarians. It is the birthplace and final resting place of Bob Marley. It is quiet, beautiful and serene on the top of Mount Zion. The Rastas treated me very well. I will be celebrating for the rest of the week, in part, thanks to them. Stay sexy Lyla's listers and Cerbies.

Grilled cheese sandwich on whole wheat bread with pickle slices

My girlfriend pointed out to me that I haven't slept well since I started taking it, and I don't remember things well, and I have trouble thinking things through. Women. Pffff. Okay, maybe she was right. I'll talk to my doctor to see what we can do.

IBTC, Exotic Asian, I love ebony, Homage to spinners.

Dude - didn't the super deep voice make you wonder....????? If you're into that sort of thing, cool.....just wasn't my bag (pardon the pun). :)

#redhead #cutoffs #again:)

:) pics r 100%...alot of fun!!

Some could be just bait and switch yes...but if you are able to do some research on the lady and find some reviews like on legit site such as Lyla then that would be your best bet Most reputable ladies will post a link or site where you can find such info If the lady is new to the business then perhaps take the time to talk to her and discuss details and concerns Good luck

I would compare it to a mine field. You may get lucky every so often or you may lose a limb. If you sweep that filed first it can help eliminate the risk, but there is still a risk. Stay safe and keep to the reputable Lyla women. I do realize in certain areas it may be harder as Lyla is not as active in some markets and BP is the majority just do as much homework as you can and stay safe.

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I have seen her. I will be 100% I have no idea what Tantra is... But take it as you wish. Her rates were great. Her service was great, I think, and I would see here again no problem

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There's something to be said for a particular grade of bad movie, but I haven't really seen one of those since The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra. I haven't watched a 'new' movie in quite some time that wasn't comic book related. Everything sucks. in a painful way. That isn't enjoyable.

Still all safe the last time I saw her.

Some good advice in the last few posts. Just because you had a bad experience with some dancers doesn't mean the establishment knows about it or would be ok with it if it was brought to their attention. Pigale has been around for a while and has established a great reputation. This doesn't happen by tolerating unacceptable behaviour by employees, dancers, or patrons. If there's a problem then you're doing everyone a favour if you bring it to the attention of management so they can address it appropriately. Complaining about it here doesn't improve anything. That and there's the basic principle of caveat emptor. Then again, it's not like we're going into these places to make sound financial decisions to begin with...

It must be very nice to have good memories with ladies who are no longer working and to have a space to share them however, I don't see the point on giving information (whether of its confirmed or speculations) on what they do now, if they left town and personal things such as them becoming mothers when they may have shared that in confidence expecting for it to remain that way.

As someone very new to this hobby, I can't imagine being in the game without the shared recos from those in the know. It would scare me off. I truly appreciate the time and effort that hobbyists make to help me make informed choices. It means that when I make a visit I go with anticipation rather than trepidation. Thanks to all.

There have been some great replies from people above. I, for one, enjoy giving massage to woman. I think it is so fulfilling to treat the women with tender love and caress them. It is a matter of perspective really where you draw the pleasure from while giving a massage. Is it the arousal one gets by touching naked bodies, or from the deep appreciation of how they are no less than a piece of art. I derive pleasure from the later. When I give massage to a woman, I feel that the whole existence is confined in the touch of the tips of my fingers. It's a whole new experience. I feel much more manly when I am able to please a woman in ways. Nothing arouses more than they enjoying the overall experience with you. Resonance. Transcendental experience.

I would love some info on her?

I so sorry you are having a rough time. This is a lonely profession and if you have no one to vent to it can be even more stressful. First of all, you set the rules. Don't let others make you think otherwise. Plan you day and do things you enjoy. Nothing worse then planning on doing something you enjoy, someone books you, then you put your plans on hold and then they cancel. So, I fit their bookings around my plans and not the other way around. My regulars are my main source of pleasure and income, so they know when they need to contact me to set up an encounter. I never sit around waiting for an encounter. I go about my day, do what I want to do, and if I can see someone great. However, if I don't see someone, I still had a great day. Don't know if this helps, but don't let the few bad apples ruin it for you. Make sure you are screening properly to weed out those that habitually cancel. Feel free to pm me if you have any specific questions. Good luck.

I most definitely love to give and have had a few amazing people teach me to receive. I enjoy giving no doubt but the best experiences come from the dance two people do where the giving and receiving is a back and forth flow of energy that feeds on itself and fans the flames to greater heights. It's not a dance for everyone but when it's happens, it's divine!

First and foremost you must be ready to receive especially if you are primarily a giver. This is especially true for financial abundance and also in regards to specifically what is being discussed here. lol. I'm definitely a giver but I also have to be able to receive. When you are able to both give and receive, you WILL always reap the rewards. The universe always delivers nice surprises in this case.

I'm also a giver, but I truly appreciate receiving. I have given a massage to a lady once(that was the first thing I did when I showed up) and she was so relaxed and comfortable with it that I took the whole session giving her the massage with no return. She felt bad when I was done but I did not mind because I got to explore her entire body from head to toe. She specially enjoyed the scalp massage with a unique tool.

I am definitely much more of a giver, and that's true in every aspect of my life (personal and physical). I get my pleasure from giving pleasure :) Being on the receiving end and knowing that it's what turns on my partner feels amazingly good as well! I would not consider any less of a great encounter if the man would give me the honor to entirely take care of him throughout the session.