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Is everyone forgetting that a strip club is supposed to be entertainment AND NOT sex work? First, you could potentially get the women you're discussing fired. And second, it is a lap dance and should not be considered a substitute for hiring an escort.

He's probably talking about seeing MAs and escorts :) Honestly, it sounds like seeing an MA would be what you're looking for. More mileage than you get at a club (although there's still limits, and some variation), no irritating counting of songs and debating how many it was, and it works out cheaper (look at MA rates, and then work out what the equivalent length of time in CR would cost you at 3 minutes per song...)

If you're seeing a reputable lady then there should be no problem using your real name. I have 2 phones. One for work and one personal. My work phone is locked so no one can get in. If they try I lose everything. We want to be safe too. People (men mostly) worry about their identity. What about us? If we don't ask for names and numbers we put ourselves at risk for many things including death. We only want the info to be safe. No other reason.

I posted on this girl in the bait and switch section the first time I met her. She reported me to mod and I got my first trike and it was removed. And since then I have met her three time under three diferent adds and even wearing a blonde wig. This girl is sketchy and for what it's worth I try to make sure no one ever falls for her tricks or traps. But I can't do that on here. But I have found other sites that will allow me to post about bait and switch

I just have to say that's just too bad for you that the ebony ladies you have seen did not give the same results as their counterpart (as you put it). Chemistry works both ways. No one race is better than the other and you will never receive the same results from one lady to the next and that is why variety is fun, may be someday you will get the opportunity to meet a beautiful ebony lady who surpasses your expectations and that of their counterpart. This is a thread for the Ebony Admirers! Not a thread to compare ebony companions to "their counterpart". If you are an Ebony Admirer do share! Every lady is beautiful, fabulous and unique in their own special wonderful way, no matter the shade/tone of their skin!

Thank you for the thoughtful posts here. This topic comes up time and again on every board. And it seems like this is the only one in which people can talk civilly about it without insulting escorts who ask for screening information and using scare tactics. I will say though, I don't expect a client to use his real cell phone, a burner is ok. But I don't accept text apps because anyone can text and delete the app and get a new one in seconds and pretend to be someone new. The worst messages I've ever received come from text apps because they are overconfident about their anonymity and have nothing to lose being rude or abusive. So just be mindful that if you come across as too paranoid or sketchy the lady you want to see will then be worried what's wrong with you and why you are doing it. We just want to ensure you are real and not a fake booking and that you won't hurt us or harass us if we do book you. Yes do your research and support reputable ladies. It's always a shame when really nice clients are terrified of us and act erratically when booking because they don't know what to do. If you're too paranoid like I say you will send off warning signals to us and then it's not comfortable for either of us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Same day is mentioned in both links. http://saskatoon.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/587-919-6093-in-town-in-2-days-new-sexy-doll-brunette-bombshell-24-7-in-and-out/3058908 http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/fredericton-new-_-incall-outcalls-_-5-chiick-_-fredericton/2177552

Do new posts show up in the "new posts" link? I find they don't, so unless I'm missing something, you have to go directly to the social group to see new posts. Might explain why some are not very active.

It's crucially important to do your homework and identify reputable ladies so that there is virtually no risk to giving your real name. As has been said by others here the wonderful ladies of LYLA want to protect themselves and protect you and your privacy. I have been seeing ladies for a long long time and have never had a problem with confidentiality with a reputable lady. That said the challenge is of course being sure the lady is reputable and frankly someone has to roll the dice whenever a new lady enters the industry... reputation can only be built with experience so do your homework... has the lady done the things that will reassure you that she is approaching this from a professional perspective... website... registered on sites like this...safe professional locations etc. The bottom line is there is absolutely no guarantees in this business if you want total safety then you better skip this lifestyle. Everyone has bad days... anyone can get their email or phones hacked (just as Hillary Clinton) everyone's opinion of what's reputable is different. Look after yourself if you are a client or a provider. There has been lots of discussions about texting apps and frankly I think the ship has sailed on that... with burner cell phones and the fact that you can often not tell it is a texting app the requirement by some that they don't take bookings from apps is becoming somewhat symbolic as unfortunately it does not afford the ladies in this industry the same level of security it did in the past. My approach is twofold when it comes to texting and calling... if I am texting someone I have not met before I use a texting app as it does two things for me... it provides me with a small element of security in case my initial contact is with someone I can't trust... I will text and start the contact through the app but am very willing to provide an actual number to the lady if requested to finalize the booking. The app also is great because it is password protected on my phone so it's not possible for someone to stumble across the records of my contacts either on purpose or by accident (did I mention I am married). The second thing I do is I maintain texting program on my cell phone that allows me to text from my main number but have both th outgoing and incoming texts remain hidden in the app and not in the phones text log. This allows me to share my real number in situations where it is safe but not worry about the text history or someone seeing the incoming texts. This system has served me very well in the lifestyle for a number of years but to be honest I have not been as active in the year and half. Just my opinion

I recently had the plessure of spending some time at lady Sophia's new spa in Moncton. It was hands down one of the best experiences I've had. Her location is very private and super clean. I decided to try her 90 min spa treatment, definitely well worth it. She met me at the door wearing a nice tight dress that really brought out her athletic figure. We starting things of with some time together in a jacuzzi and after she gave me a amazing massage. After the massage we went off into the bedroom for some more fun. I can't say enough about the experience. For anyone in the Moncton area looking for a true vip experience,this is definitely for you.

Saw her last night. Gorgeous blond, great attitude. Going back tonight! Very open and responsive

I'm from the Ottawa/Montreal area and I dated a gorgeous ebony lady in my younger days, she was lovely, fun and outgoing but it was just not meant to be. Forward to today, I have seen a few ebony ladies and I still enjoy them very much but I find that they do not give the same results as their counterpart. Could be just the ones I have seen. Just saying.

Myself, I'd say I'm an admirer for sure. I've never had the pleasure of spending some quality time with an ebony lady, but have always wanted to. I guess we could call it an item on my bucket list lol.

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The texting app is "text Plus" and text hiding app is "Secret SMS" But there are lots of them.

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Yes that is the one. Thank you.

Keeping this thread going :)

To my dear friends and all the special people I have come to know and appreciate and developed a sincere bond and comfort with. I am taking the time today to officially announce that I will be retiring my business as of December 16th 2016. This decision was one of the hardest decisions I have had to make however I knew there would be a time in my life that I would have to say goodbye. Life has offered me a direct path to a new future I simply am unable to pass by. I cannot just leave without having to formally announce and allowing an opportunity to say goodbye to everyone I have met and learned to know and grew an overwhelming sense of adoration for.. Whether it be through a PM or text or in person I want to be able to say goodbye in our own personal way. Anyone of you who knows me and knows what I am about you know this is the way I am. Moving forward I want to say this chapter in my book of life has been one of the best chapters ever wrote so far.. This business has surpassed what I ever thought and has given me a chance to shape and mould into the person I am today. I still remember the first time I ever saw my first client lol.. I was nervous and shy and naive.. But instinct kicked in and I grew into what I do and who I am today.. Strong, independent beautiful and I believe in myself. The gratitude I have for anyone who has taken part in my evolution of my being is beyond what I ever could say in words. I want you to all know though that even though this chapter will be soon over and closed this will always be a piece of me that will always be apart of me. I want to thank you again for everything any of you that have come to know me for all you have done for me and from the bottom of my heart you will all be missed and will forever hold a special piece of me within my heart and soul... Yours Very Truly Malena Parisi

I will pm all of you- do not go there

I always ask my clients to confirm an hour before especially if it's an appointment that is booked in advance. This way we are both in direct communication closer to the appointment time. However, waiting 10-20 minutes without the provider letting you know what's going on or even if she did so without much of an explanation (I. E asking you to wait a few extra mins without advanced notice is unprofessional imo. It could be a case of double booking and whoever gets there first gets to see the SP and the other guy is S.O.L.

Another vote for Adèle Gall...although I don't know if my results are scientifically valid. Will most likely need to repeat experience to see if I arrive at the same conclusion. ;)

is this the lady your wondering about If so i have seen her and plan to repeat The last pic for sure is her Not to sure about the others http://thunderbay.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lucy/43040584

The lovely MissMadisonxox, from the board, who I'm eager to meet! :) Thanks, Madison, for letting me post this.

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I use my real name (first and last) as well as my regular cell phone but I do have an email address I only use to communicate with the SP I see. In my case it's not to hid anything from my husband, he knows everything but I'd hate for my kids to grab my phone and see something. I'm a pretty trusting person and I always see the same person, she is established and has a great reputation so for me to tell her my full name and talk about myself is really not a big deal. In the end we both make the choice of revealing what we want to or not to each other. I've also told her some things that I probably would not tell my best girlfriends for fear of being judged by them but yet I'm very comfortable telling her.

"Now I still use my "special" email address but don't include it in my personal phone email accounts list." yes... that's very true... Every time I read my special email on the phone the email service invites me to download the app for my phone to make it easy to access my email... say NO!!! Don't make it easy to access your special email... its more tedious but safer. Be wary of sites that save your password too. The safest bet is to always use incognito when you access your special email as well as LYLA and similar sites on your computer. "this is really a "live and let live" industry, a couple of my favourite SPs know my last name, profession and some other personal details." yes for sure... I agree... it is a live and let live industry... though it takes time to build trust... a couple ladies knows my name and profession. Funny story... when I first started as a hobbyist, I used email and payphones... My wife decided we needed a cell phone plan and she suggested a joint phone plan (Rogers family plan or something like that), but then changed her mind and got her own phone leaving me without a phone... and with payphones getting hard to find... so she told me to get my own phone (implying I was lazy for expecting her to get me one)... I was annoyed and then realized that getting my own phone that she had no access to the bill or anything was a much better idea. Good thing I did... and it was her idea.

When I first started this hobby I went to great lengths to use techniques I thought would be required to hide my identity. I used a "burner phone" and purchased sim cards under a false name and address. I created an email address I specifically used for communicating to agencies and independents. For a period of time, I even went as far as to only use "internet cafes" or terminals available in hotel lobbies or at the airport to communicate. If I had to use the phone it would be preferably from the hotel lobby or a local pay phone. If I was required to "phone-in" to confirm an in-call address or my arrival it was from the "burner" if I had no access to a none traceable land line. After a while (a couple of years) I realized all this might be a bit of overkill and it just became very inconvenient. It was a pain to keeping my "burner" up to date and sometimes it was unreliable when on international trips. Using internet cafes are not practical any more and I have stopped using hotel business centres. Now I still use my "special" email address but don't include it in my personal phone email accounts list. I try to use my own phone for text and email only. I have alway used my real first name but never have I had to divulge my last name. However as trust grew and I realized this is really a "live and let live" industry, a couple of my favourite SPs know my last name, profession and some other personal details. Like many SPs I have my own screening process based on my own comfort zone and I rely on my own instincts and gut feel when I see someone of the first time. It has worked so far with nary a disappointment or any "drama".

I booked with her and when I got there it wasn't the same person as in the pictures. Not even close.

I now read it (based on both the original post and the added information about his post from the other site) as being even more ridiculous than that. He seems to believe that we as hobbiests should be obligated to disclose to sp's that we have seen tgirls, and then you as sp's should be obligated to disclose in your ads and communications that you have seen us, in the interest of his safety. This is wrong on so many levels. I mean, first off, we all know of course that ALL tgirls have multiple sti's and that the strait public has none. That's a reasonable assumption right? That ridiculous (and highly prejudicial) assumption aside, does he actually believe that this idea is likely or even possible? I think that it's fairly safe to assume that everyone in this hobby on both sides has a reasonably extensive sexual history. The mathematics involved in keeping track of everyone's complete histories, as well as their partner's histories, their partner's histories, etc, etc are near impossible if you understand the exponential nature of this type of project. Perhaps he should start with his own complete extended history. (Tgirls and all, and yes I bet that they are in there already somewhere by extension). The hobby just doesn't work that way. If you aren't comfortable with the measures you are currently taking to mitigate your risk, then you need to reassess them, change them, or change hobbies.

Sounds to me like he's asking if we as hobbiests should be obligated to identify ourselves if we have seen tgirls. That way he can avoid any sp's we've been with. Sounds like a lot of presumption, misconception and prejudgement to me. Not to mention the fact that if knowing your partners full history is your idea of risk management, than you are in the wrong hobby. It isn't likely to happen here. Nor should it. Discresion is the cornerstone to the hobby.

I also initially thought the OP was asking if hobbyists interested in seeing someone who is transgender should announce it was with the idea that doing so would help them connect with a person they'd like to see. If it is indeed instead due to the idea that he wants to know who to avoid, because of some idea that those who have been with a transgender person are at greater risk...well, that is very unfortunate to put it lightly. The idea that you're at greater risk being with a transgender person plays into outdated stereotypes and a lack of knowledge.

A seperate comment of the OP's on TERB may offer some clarification in regards to specifically what he's asking, which, to my knowledge is whether or not people should disclose if they see T-girls because he believes it increases 'the risk'. "in an obliquely related vien .. I would want to know about hobbiests who frequent tgirls. This to my mind multiplies the risk way past my comfort level. There's a guy on the Rosie board who self identifies. I wouldn't see anyone that he has seen. jmo"

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