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Hi guys , I am writing this little note to thank you guys for all your support .. I really want you to understand how much it was appreciated to read all your great words and your positive messages about our new move and knowing that you are following our steps and believe in our capacity to build our own independent location was absolutely wonderful... When you never been indy before , it is a big step to fly with your own wings and I would be lying saying that I wasn't nervous , but this week I have been covered by your faith and your encouragement words and I felt blessed ... Lyla was for me an advertisement platform where I can get visibility and meet new potential clients , now I see it differently.. Yes it is still an incredible way to build a great clientele, but it is also a platform full of amazing people that are helping each other ... All of this long text just to say thank you very very much guys ... Ps. Sorry for the misspelling, Frenchie here ;) Xxxx Ali

I'm not the guy who pushes the limits in the back room. I'm the respectful one. I like to have a good time, but I don't go against club policy. That said, I know some guys and gals do. The owner has cameras in the champagne room to keep everyone safe, in theory, but I've been hearing some disturbing reports. I love new technologies and the idea that I can watch my security camera feed from my phone is welcome news. However, it troubles me that the owner (or manager, or whoever has access) is able to view them from home and/or show the video to their friends. You see, the video isn't just live. It is recorded for them to view. I'm sure it was intended to be used for safety, but I've had more than one person say that the owner has shown them past video of them ON HIS PHONE regarding some transgression in the champagne room that he wants explained. The angle of the cameras leaves much room for supposition on the part of management, and nothing at all in the way of evidence one way or the other. It could look way worse than it actually is. Of course, it could be exactly what it looks like, too. Still, these limited-line-of-sight videos are being used to punish the dancers. I don't know about you, but I don't want there to be recorded video of me getting lap dances. Period. I don't care if it's legal, or within his rights to do so, or not. I won't be returning as long as those cameras exist in the back. There are other clubs not too much further away that I also enjoy.

Our dear friend Megan (www.meganmack.ca) just posted in her blog a great article about how much Queen Street businesses are hurting from the construction. For those of you who don't follow her blog, the original article is at http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/egan-the-price-of-lrt-the-royal-mess-that-is-queen-street From here on, I'm going to make a point of eating at Dana's Indian Cuisine and Friend's Coffee Company as often as I can. If these guys can just get a little more help, they can probably survive till the construction's over, and then with the 150 celebrations they should be fine. We're part of the Queen Street community, let's pitch in and help!

I love this! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Someone definitely TOFFT with me, and because of that, it got me a little exposure and the others knew I was a legit person because of it. And here I am today, happy as a clam. Thank you to those who TOFFT (after careful research and vouching prior to, of course!)

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I contacted Yasmin by PM. We maintained contact that way till the very last minute before her arrival to my place. When I opened the door I saw a pretty college girl with a lovely smile. I was delighted to see her in person and gave her a big welcome hug. She smelled like a fresh flower. I took her coat. She was wearing a sexy red blouse with black lace that showed the cleavage of her hard round breasts and soft pearl skin. Yasmin displayed a high degree of politeness, etiquette, education and respect. I was very impressed with her level of sophistication, the sincerity of her communication and the beauty of her eyes, face and lips. We sat chatting on the sofa, listening to music and having drinks. We talked intelligently while holding hands and getting close. Soon we were into caresses and kisses. We changed the sofa to the bedroom. Taking her clothes off Jasmin showed an awesome body. She is a curvy spinner with super sexy model looks. Naked we were caressing, kissing and soon turned to daty. Jasmin is super clean, wet and totally delicious. Her oral skills are tender, passionate and deep. Daty with her is heavenly and unforgettable. We turned from Daty to cowboy. Jasmin is naturally wet and tight. She needs no lube and has no issue in prolonged riding to make herself cum. Once she came, she allowed me to explode in missionary and drop next to her in a passionate embrace. She was in no rush. We lay for quite some time before we dressed. She was very appreciative of us spending time together. We hugged and kissed promising to see each other soon. I really felt I spent the night with my college girlfriend. Loved it !

"Making a deposit when booking with a Provider." This point was brought up by a fellow punter on another thread, "Disrespect and appointment times". It seems that not just a few, or many, but all Providers are having a long ongoing issue with no-shows, or late, and last minute cancellations. This is not just occurring with new but with long-time well established Providers. As a result of this it is, we, punters that are and will suffer the consequences of some peoples' actions. For instance, some Providers are double booking in order to try and alleviate a problem we, as punters, created. After being enlightened of what Providers do and go through for us, "Disrespect and appointment times", I was left feeling disappointed with perhaps how some people do not show or give them enough respect. After reading that thread I, for one, sympathized with them on this issue since I, for one, do appreciate all the joy and pleasure they bring me! The thread also made me realize that their weekly time in the industry is not just the weekly total time spent with punters. If we don't do anything about this issue maybe "deposit when booking" is in the future!?! Let's help alleviate the problem now! I don't know how you feel but does anyone in the industry want to start "deposit when booking", I know I don't!

Helping my brothers out... Just did my usual first 10 minutes of research for this ad for you guys. If it's fake I would have found something by now. She's 23 5'8 130lbs 34b She looks legitimate... Did phone number research, pics search showed nothing. I can't tell you if: clock watcher? scam artist? Your welcome from an Ottawa brother!

Just a note that I have stopped going to Barbs as a consequence of just the kind of punishment mentioned at the beginning of this thread. A lady I know - now out of the business - was banned for two weeks, apparently for excessive 'grinding'. This was conveyed to her ex post facto via a played back recording. She also witnessed the play back of two others who were banned - for more extreme behaviors.(Reason to believe that there is in fact totally unwarranted sharing of such videos.) Now for the kicker.. that was two years ago. It would seem this has been a practice at Barbs for some time. I am not aware of cameras at other clubs - or at least I am not aware of them being used in this kind of malicious manner. Hope this helps.

Point taken. Although I wonder if a court would see it this way, at least for the purpose of judging the application of such privacy legislation. Overall, I really would have concerns that the installation at 340 is not meeting the standard set out in these guidelines and thus I'm wondering if the use of surveillance in this case is actually in some aspect(s) in contravention with the letter of the law.

This is really very enlightening. If all of these "guidelines" were explicitly and rigourously adhered to, there would be scant cause for concern. If. I note particularly the admonition that "[t]he recorded images must be stored in a secure location...". Wondering if a smartphone qualifies. Also notable is the statement that the guidelines do not "apply to the surveillance of employees." This seems to be the purpose of the surveillance in this case.

Here is some heavy reading. Actually, it is pretty well explained. https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/surveillance-and-monitoring/gl_vs_080306/ Maybe if everyone asked for a copy of their session (apparently yours by right) after leaving the CR things might start to happen.

They now have a deal with the brig next door so if you want to order kitchen food the menu on all the tables are menu off of the brig!!! I heard the chicken avocado sandwich was pretty good ! Otherwise buffet food is pretty good to , you just purchase a drink and ask for a ticket and maybe a little tip for the cook upstairs. Check it out !!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"...in the Cloud..." Now that is a truly very disturbing possibilty. I've been working on the assumption that this would be a kind of internal CCTV (as the British say) kind of thing, but the notion that cloud storage is being used is somewhat concerning. But, come to think of it, if material is being shown via smartphone it is clearly already vulnerable and, to some degree, 'out there'. Not to mention lower tech distribution methods.

Unfortunately CarpeDiem my reasons for continuing to go to Barbs is much stronger than yours (liking the ladies too much who I will miss than liking the staff, just kidding:)) so unlike you I can't stop going there in spite of everything. I agree with you that cameras won't make it much safer for dancers for reasons you stated very well. The fact that most dancers take me to the two chairs next to the vending machine where supposedly there are no cameras could be (not is for sure) an indication that most dancers are not happy about being recorded either. Potential issues raised so far in this thread about the possible misuse or malicious use of past recordings have concerned me as well as I have been to this bar likely more than a thousand times past 20 years. Though the fact that cameras have been there for years maybe even decades and it has never been used maliciously is a positive sign for future. I hate to be the pessimistic one but Barbs owner has proven in the past that he is quite stubborn about his policies. I read somewhere that a few years ago he was told about complains regarding his open champagne room on cerb by a distinguished cerb member and he didn't wish to listen and claimed he never heard of cerb and then said he runs a clean establishment and will not change his CR and he didn't!..... In other words this or other threads about issues at Barbs or even in-person complain will not likely change anything but again this is just my opinion and I hope I am wrong. Btw, I was told by dancers who I trust that there are no cameras at Barefax in the champagne rooms and I would be really surprised if there are cameras at Playmates though never asked anyone because I never suspected this possibility at PM considering that they have an upstairs for more privacy of dances.

I'm guessing (and it's only a guess) that the configuration of the CR booths at the 'Fax is not particularly good for this type of surveillance. As far as the 'Mate is concerned, I can only conclude that many dancers (and patrons) are, to say the least, less than concerned about the possibilty of installed surveillance. Of course, this is not to say that the 'Mate CR is camera-free.

While many of us probably have been aware of the possibility (or indeed likelihood) of recording devices in the CR at Barb's, it is more than bit disconcerting to be told that the owner (and possibly other staff) are showing "past video" to people on his/their smartphone. KiltBoy, without getting into specific individuals, are those (the "more than one person") you allude to here dancers or patrons? One would hope that the recorded video is erased after review (for either song count disputes or behaviour transgression) but I suppose that we have to be aware of the ever-present possibility that the material is retained. A major concern (of patrons and dancers) in this regard has to be that a disgruntled staff member who has managed to gain access to some or all of the archived digital video will malevolently make this material available on some public forum or, after the closure of the club (sorry to raise that topic again), the video files will be released into the wild in some way. Perhaps one should not panic on this count, but the worst case scenario is indeed somewhat troubling. P.S. : Does anyone have any inkling or speculation as to just where the cameras are located and thus what their potential lines-of-sight might encompass? Given the height of the CR stall walls and the position of the cubicle, I always guessed (perhaps incorrectly) that the last stall in the corner across from the DJ booth (the southeast corner of the CR, aka 'Jenny's office') would not be easily viewed by any camera placement except one directly overhead. Maybe I did not fully consider the possibilities of various placements and sight-lines.

I have been going to Barbarellas for almost 20 years likely longer than anyone on this board and the only reason is that for some reason or reasons they are able to attract very attractive classy young ladies but to be honest I never liked the staff there or their Cameras or their open champagne rooms (since 2008 because of the City bylaw for which they went too far but before that private dances were private). As for cameras for sure there were there up till a few years ago and they could be seen. In fact 15 years ago they displayed a notice at the check-in that they monitored champagne rooms with cameras but what I didn't know until now was that they are still there. I thought they were removed a few years ago and I have looked everywhere and couldn't see anything resembling a hidden camera but I could be wrong. I remember a few years ago when I complained about cameras to dancers and lack of privacy (I don't do anything extra or illegal either but I would like my privacy for what is called 'private' dances) I was told that these cameras are there to settle disputes not to watch over customers or monitor dancers. By dispute I mean when a customer complains about number of dances then they watch the cameras to settle dispute (we both know there are a few dancers out there in every bar who inflate the number of dances as per my experiences on one occasion a dancer asked for 5 ($100) after 2 songs but I always pay and never dispute but some don't and this is when cameras help). As much as I don't like the bar itself especially a couple of daytime staff with serious attitudes I will continue to go there but with lesser frequency as I really love most of the ladies who work there some of whom I know for years and consider them as friends. The closest to Barbarellas (in terms of young attractive classy ladies they are able to attract) is Barefax whose champagne rooms are private with no cameras so I have started going there instead on more occasions but Barefax is dead on Saturdays when I usually go out and there is no substitute for it except Barbarellas.

When I 'Retired' the first time, it had been after eight years in the business. I had completed school and simply started working in an unrelated industry, which gave me little time to book appointments - even with regulars. You do build connections in this business though, and sometimes the good ones can last a lifetime! This is no different than any other 'working' friendship you may develop over time, in any other line of employment. If you want to take a step back and only book with regulars, you can always create a newsletter to advertise only to your previous clientele. You can designate a few days a month for appointments, so that you can utilize your other days as you see fit...without feeling guilty for being unavailable to your favorites. You can test out 'full' retirement for a while, and take a break...and you can always come back. That is the beauty of this industry!

Friday evening was fun, the women were young and beautiful. I had a great time with Chloe (black hair pulled back, pale skin, glasses, bit of a Drew Barrymore thing going on). After seeing Maria (brunette, nice proportions) move so sexily on stage, I just had to see her up close and was so glad that I did. I chatted with a lovely blonde whose name I think begins with L. She was wise beyond her years and fun to talk to. It was her first time on stage and she didn't know whether they were going to keep her. She said she was nervous but I couldn't tell, she smiled so sweetly. I hope to see her again some Friday.

Edging is my favorite way to extend pleasure for guys, I love doing this and I do it very well. I enjoy feeling you pulsate in my hands I always get it right. I get you right to the brink, then call a time-out of sorts....(fun to be had in these moments too!) before I start things up again. I truly enjoy it. It's not for all men but for those who enjoy it is am not certified expert lol but I am pretty darn good.

From Toronto's KaterinaJessy's albums, with her kind permission:

Spending time with a pet dog who has shared a considerable potion of my life and can make me forget my cares with his commitment and the look in his eyes

Asian Nicole (http://asiannicole.escortbook.com/) - Exotic Asian Princess...Sophisticated well educated woman with amazing petite body and gorgeous well shaped long legs any dancer can dream about. She likes classical art, traveling, good dresses, beautiful flowers, and...independence. I went to see ballet performance after reading her article on this ballet posted on escort website as a part of her advertising thread - very unusual way to attract clients but it worked for me. You need to meet Nicole to understand why many who know the escort world consider her to be a legend. This wasn't my first date with Nicole. I have met her first time about five years ago (but she doesn't remember me from that time - so that doesn't count :-) and recently returned to see her after reading that ballet article. Her in-call place is nice condo in the heart of Toronto Downtown, conveniently located close to business district. Booking is very simple - just phone call (or text for returning clients). And Nicole always answers promptly all contacts - very professional in this sense. There was cold cloudy weather outside when we met, but behind the door of her apartment, Nicole was like hot summer day - bright sparkling beautiful woman waiting for me. She made me feel comfortable from our first hug and greeting kiss. Our time together was amazing, slow and sensual in the beginning and much more playful and energetic by the finale. Nicole likes what she is doing and that shows. She is very open and natural during the rendezvous, she keeps you being the center of her attention and enjoys intimacy herself at the same time. And shower together in the end - it was very tempting to stay for one more round after this. This Woman I met recently is much more sophisticated, impressive, sexy, and advanced than the girl I have seen five years ago. Do I like this woman? - Yes. Did I really enjoy our time together? - Yes. Will I return to see her again? - Definitely Yes

If she is with Tiffany, can you really lose?

I have a longstanding funny banter with an SP friend of mine in regards to a very few select clients every now and then assume they are "in the club". There is no actual club contrary to what many want to think. Mostly this occurs with people you only meet once who think they have earned the title of "being in the club" and then turn around and ask for a discount on the first date and we say "what club?" From this, I created a running joke with clients about the proverbial VIP club where I will change my schedule or see them at a moment's notice. If it's their birthday, I will extend extra time for them and do something nice for them like champagne etc. It's my way of showing my appreciation for them. I've got a President, a Vice President, board members etc. They are all great gentlemen. As for a whitelist, no I don't keep one of those in the literal sense. I treat all my regulars the same but they have to earn their way in and that comes with consideration, etiquette, respect etc. They are only invited into the "club" even though it only exists based on their good merit. They all laugh when I tell them they are part of the VIP club but I know it makes them feel extra special. :)

Fake pics that woman is a SI model and Famous Instagram model.

Well considering there are two Maria's ... one works mostly daytime and a new girl from out of town works evenings Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It is well known that most Ladies have sort of "black" list of clients (no show, time wasters, rude and disrespectful, etc...). Do you have an opposite list - favorite or preferable clients who you are always really glad to see or maybe even ready to adjust your schedule to meet such a client?

Bum! Oh what a giveaway!

I mentioned these cameras a while back on the main barbs thread started by cato.... one the girls told me that the cameras were HD... but the responses I got seemed like people were not that concerned.... however since then I have almost completely stopped going there... especially after Brandy left.... but now that u mention that the management is punishing girls from recorded footage.... i'm disinclined to return to the establishment.... i make it a point to never do anything that makes the girls feel uncomfortable in any way from time spent in the cr... but knowing now that if something that the girl was comfortable enough to do would possibly later come back to punish her... just does not go with my own personal rules of visting an sc... Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

At one time or another, every Provider fell under the title TOFTT!!! (Fact) We have all had a "disappointing" experience, either with a TOFTT or a known provider! I do not understand why so many people's opinions are to or have the "stick with what you know" mentality. Yes, that is the safest route I'm aware. But in my opinion, with prior research and careful selection, a TOFTT provider is worth the risk. How can a fabulous or amazing new provider ever be discovered if no one ever TOFTT! Yes, during attempts, we may be disappointed. However, if we don't try, how will the next or future "must see providers" be discovered? I have encountered many TOFTT providers. Yes I've been disappointed a few times but I have also found a few that were the best experiences I've had. I realize some people are more willing than others to be the ones to attempt a TOFTT, and to these people, I wish you all good luck!

I'm not an escort but I've been a hobbyist for 15 plus years. Before joining Lyla two weeks ago, I had never joined a board. So I am a long-time BP user and my views are only from seeking escorts. They say for every bad thing you do it takes ten good thing to make up for it. So in comparison, I think that is why people have this overly negative opinion of BP.

My personal preference is definately Kept clean but not necessarily completely shaved (intimate area ) ... But I really enjoy chest hair.. I have a soft spot for hair .. It look manly and it is so attractive to see a nice beard and a chest covered with hair .. It is like an invitation to slide your fingers in it ... The only thing that bothers me , would be that famous smell when I am massaging around the botox area ;) This would be my only recommendation to the guys that like a great massage .. Clean deep and scrub that bum so your Ma might be more open minded to give you a great bum massage ;) Hahaha ! Ali

Depending where you are, Perla (affiliated with Pure) and the other members of that group are good. Haven't been to Muse yet but I do know one MA who works there that used to work in Ottawa and is really good. (but on vacation right now)

From a personal point of view, if I'm going on a trip with a regular, only then will I ask for a deposit. As for multiple hours, I don't offer that on a first date anymore because I want to see how reliable they are for an hour. In the past multiple hour appointments even just for 2 hours were the worst type of cancellations and I never count on someone unless they are there in my presence. Once I get an idea of how reliable they are for an hour after a few visits, I may or not ask for a deposit for multiple hours. If someone books other appointments for a half hour or an hour and I've met them just once or not at all and they have a tendency to keep cancelling more than once, I will not bother asking for a deposit. The way I see it is they are not someone I'm acquainted with or barely at all so I will write them off and not see them again. I give them two chances with cancellations and then I'm done. I don't have time to fool around with that and while there are good reasons for cancellations, if the client has any respect for someone else's time, they will reach out to make amends. The provider shouldn't have to. It's the people who act shocked and insulted when you bring up the issue and ask for a deposit are the type who will throw it back on the provider and just disappear so it's an exercise in futility with the chronic ones. I see them as waste of timers. Why even bother? Their actions speak louder than words. I don't want to deal with unreliable people. It's no different than an SP double booking or constantly no showing on a client. They are not going to put up with that behaviour no matter how good looking or how good her services are. We all have our threshold point where it becomes too much. There are many more guys out there who aren't chronic canceller types so I don't think there is a need for deposits upfront unless it's for multiple hours, overnighters or trips. That's a no brainer to get a deposit for those types of appointments. I don't forsee ladies asking for deposits up front for any length of time such as an hour or under. That will never happen because trust has to first be established and that can't be done with virtual strangers. The SP takes her chances with a 2 hour appointment from someone she has never met. It's happened a few times to me so I stopped offering it to people I don't know. The ones who really annoy the providers with their waste of time horse and pony show are the ones who won't pay that deposit so really give them a chance but not too many where they have to only then be viewed as a wot. As the saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." I really take appointment bookings with a grain of salt which is why I love same day, last minute appointments because this sort of thing rarely happens within an hour or if they want to visit right away.

Playing Mass Effect Andromeda I know I'm a nerd lol

Onyx Ronin if she is to your taste. She was at Muse and a Twitter page. Muse has several great ladies

To the guys throwing in the argument of "well some girls double book!"- two things. One: you missing out on an appointment is far less of a problem then her missing out on income. You can reschedule with another girl at a moments notice. She can't make that grocery money re-appear. (It SUCKS, yes, but it is not worse.) Two: you won't like this- but its self-created. Gents created that obstacle of doublebooking. SPs cannot get rid of this issue on their own. As, besides the general, I guess "crazies" that routinely do it on backpage, the problem is the general, regular, reputable gents that DO do this. I would count myself lucky in that I've yet to have any ncns, but some girls are having this issue... and I've read guys reactions to being doublebooked is to just fakebook her further. Which makes the problem worse. Which incites more fAkebooking. Etc. Stop the vigilante fakebooking stuff and likely your (excess in) doublebooking problems will go away too.

Regarding the "naked by third song" rule mentioned by MeganDancer, I think that's on stage, not in the back. Back there, I think you're on you're own. I'm not too worried about KiltBoy!

On same topic as our friend r__d raised, saying that I am waiting for another dancer only works half the time for me when the lady leaves with smile. This is so cool. I remember her face for a next time visit. The other half either the lady leaves with anger or disappointed at the very least (which makes me sad and not to enjoy my time anymore). Or much worse as on a few occasions the lady persisted real bad saying that she is here now and asking me to take her to CR rather than waiting for another lady!!!!! and doesn't leave for minutes trying to convince...... This makes me both sad and angry and has happened quite a few times and I left the bar soon after. I do understand that ladies needs money to pay for bar fees and living expenses and all that but look at it from my perspective. Money is hard to come by and I have to be selective on those I am most attracted to. Weekends is supposed to relax me from Monday to Friday stressful job not to stress me further. I think it is best if the lady leaves and seek another patron who may be attracted to her or may not be waiting for another dancer. Additional Comments: Yes it is a good strategy I have done in winter times when I have a jacket and leave it next to myself (day times only of course as you need to check in the jacket night times) and then remove it when you see your favorite dancer approaching. And yes I can confirm it is very effective but sometimes it backfires as even the one(s) you are interested like a new dancer also will/may avoid you as she thinks that you wish to be left alone.

Aw...imagine, if you'd said NO it would have torn a hole in the fabric of the Universe. THAT would have been fun!

Well, my show was a mess today, but thanks for stopping by anyway. [emoji14] Am I going to have to find out about Natasha by myself or are you going to tell us?

Yes, Sherlock, KaterinaJessy is really awesome! I have had the pleasure, intensely :)

Ah, Milford, it is a truism that you most often get what you pay for, and certainly that is the case here. European Barbie is based in Mississauga, so you would have to wait for another eastern tour by her. But, indeed, she is terrific.

Yes I have a couple of times, a gorgeous and very friendly lady.

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Hey I'm Jessica... New to Saint John but here for awhile... Will be planning a visit to Moncton soon as well, where I worked last year under the alias, Julia. Looking forward to hearing from you all... Xoxo 5068013221

New here and would like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread with their informative information for someone like myself who is brand new to hobbying. Hoping to learn a lot and eventually be able to give back to the community one way or another!

Well...for serious advice......look through the escorte listings...you will find them listed at the bottom of the web page. You can also look into the picture albums here to see other pictures. Then once you have selected and norrowed it down you can always do a search here on the forum and see what people think of the ladies. You could always list some of the attributes you would like....like hair color...body type.....age..... As for "safe as possible sex"...well...the only thing you might find uncovered is a blow job...other than that...all sex is covered.......if you are looking at anything safer.......I might recomend jerking off with a Men's magazine in the washroom...with a rubber glove on.....hahahaha... But do some reading and looking around....we would be glad to help once you have narrowed your choice down... good luck