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There really can be real connection's regardless of the profession at hand... client turned cli-fri turned friend turned boyfriend turned ex been there done that HOWEVER at the end of the day we are BOTH PEOPLE. 'HUMAN' I have the most horrific track record of two girls in my life I shared this industry with- take their own lives, suddenly without any warning that wasn't met with being obviously oblivious.... so not to be the party pooper but you can't always cover shit up with sprinkles and hope people eat it. Life happens. Sometimes shit happens to life. My most recent Absence was unplanned and even unbeknownst to ME - I had Amnesia (think movie OVERBOARD -Nobody claimed Me Hahaha jk..? Or did they.... Insert scary music here) Heaven sent me back. Over qualified, ya know? But to undo my morbidity. .... I'd like to sell some sprinkles and say I'm sure she's fine - she just suddenly went awol as I do LOTS ....

Income taxes - and the calculations for computing them...

When people try to read into what you are saying and then comment about something you are not even talking about or that it is far from what you were actually saying.

The difference between spit and swallow is if you like it or love it !

Alluring eye

I don't think anyone's saying that.. But, generally, escorting is not and cannot make up for 'normal' dating or having an actual girlfriend. Sometimes clients see me and it's clear that they aren't looking for a companion, they're looking for a girlfriend- and this is not the place to be looking for a girlfriend. Girlfriend Experience, sure.. but you can't start a real dating relationship based on fake names and paid for time and attention. While we might do our job too well at times, it is still a job.

You're more than welcome to get close to an SP- sorry, I guess my advice was too basic. To agree with Claire- On the one side; this sucks. You don't know what happened. You haven't heard what happened. You may never hear what happened. We all know this game. I've had clients (known ones, even) drop off the face of the earth and never heard from them again. Upsetting. Did he hate me? Did he die? Did someone find out? Etc etc... all answers I'll never get. But that's the nature of such a discrete industry- you don't get to know. And while it sucks, On side number 2- for starters, she could be fine. And about getting "close" to an SP... I'd say you should continue to do so. It's worth it. I worry about getting close to clients (I have many dear client friends) but I'd think it'd hurt me ( & you !) a lot more if we acted like this was something similar to purchasing carrots at the self check-out at loblaws. Let yourself feel the good and the bad. The good more than makes up for it :)

The expense is not an issue, but as a general rule I want a lady to feel completely safe and comfortable and bringing my own might not make her feel safe. That said, if I discussed it with her first, she wanted to try them, and I could bring an unopened package it might work.

I probably should also add that Ottawa does kick ass when it comes to strip clubs especially compared to Toronto and Mississauga. Those clubs are really expensive compared to Ottawa. Much better in Ottawa. To the orignal poster you may want to try going off the island to Laval. Les Deesses and Pink Paradise are nice and more laid back than downtown Montreal.

Perhaps I shouldn't have raised this whole thing and, as I noted in my post, I have no way of knowing who is behind the post on the (unmoderated) "other board" in question. But the tone of the post seems to suggest that it is someone associated with the club. It just seemed silly, in any case.

Weird. No, I'd never heard anything from management and I might have sold a dozen wallets and tie-dyed ass cloths there. I enjoyed going, and the ladies seemed to enjoy my offerings. That was it. No noise, no problems, not a mention. Not to me, anyway. Just setting things straight. I think my reputation speaks for itself. Thanks guys, for standing beside me. EDIT: Okay, I read the post and it seems mostly to be about me not giving a cut to the house (veering away from the 'boycott' issue for some reason). If we're keeping count, I've done that many times over. I tip the girls well. I over-tip the servers. Maybe the owner or DJ wanted something? What is the going rate for graft? Anyway, I'm not going to let it ruin my day. It's interesting to be specifically singled out in this way, though. Suspicious, almost. However, I will make a point of asking the managers at the other clubs I attend if they have any problems. I do enough business online that it wouldn't hurt. I offer it as a service to the "ready cash" club.

<rant> Sorry, this is over the line into "completely stupid" (not you, r__d, the situation). KiltBoy is one of the most thoughtful, sensitive people on this site, and I'm very grateful to him for his contributions. If I were gay I'd positively have a crush on him! I've chatted with him a number of times, and frankly the clubs in Ottawa need more people like him. Period! Yes, he did raise the issue of the cameras at Barbs, and I for one am very glad he did. A number of people, myself included, have chosen to not frequent that club due to our discomfort the fact of the video recording, and the uses that were being made of the recordings. Is it a "boycott"? That's in the terminology; if I frequent a restaurant because I like their pineapple and hot pepper pizza, is it a "boycott" if I quit going if they quit making the pizza? I liked Barbs, something happened, now I like it less. I hope club management soon decides to quit video recording in the CR, but that's not my decision. Of course KiltBoy designs and sells merchandise to dancers...it's on his Lyla signature, for God's sake! His activities were never disruptive, and as far as I can see the dancers were quite grateful to him for solving a problem. And I can guarantee that he made good use of the CR, which is to the benefit of the dancers, and the club. If someone wants to complain about KiltBoy, I'm an ardent supporter of free speech, and I support their right. But I don't respect their judgement, OR their motives, and I'm happy to say that I stand completely in KiltBoy's corner (just not too close to him...I don't want him getting the wrong idea.) </rant>

While it's hard not to want to worry about her, it's likely your best option to sit and wait. Pressing for an answer may worry her about your intentions (not an insult to you or anything, just we SPs tend to always have our backs up) but the few messages you have sent, if she returns, will come across as kind and caring. You have done all you can, at this point, just wait :)

It could be as simple as having her phone off. I have 2 phones. If I'm going on a trip my "work" phone stays home. If I want to take a break it stays off. Please let us know if you find out she's ok. hugs

yes I second Claire Heavens, it is simply an amazing ass.

Spit or swallow: that's never my call.

I first saw Lilith while having a drink at the bar at The Brass Club. She seized my attention because she was so attractive. Her raven hair and coffee cream complexion was accentuated by a tan coloured shorty pyjamas with black lace trim. She was so polished and staid I decided right then I had to know more. We tweeted back and forth a bit and arrangements were made. I arrived for the anticipated event and was joined in the elevator by four gorgeous and giggling ladies. The Brass club is crammed with beauties but Lilth stands out and there she was in the corner of the elevator making eyes at me. My insides liquified. She was in pig tails and looked like a graduate of the Shirley Temple school for the terminally cute. I was escorted by the ever-lovely Jessica to the Brass Room and momentarily Lilith met me, still in pig tails. My stomach became full of attack butterflies. This polished, elegant lady suddenly became a wonton, willing predator. My wish was her command (within MA limits) except she couldn't help me catch my breath. In a flash, the wine was gone, the ninety minutes was gone and we were kissing good bye. I don't have to worry about returning, my heart is still there. I don't just recommend Lilith, I urge you to visit her. It is well worth it.

Booking was a breeze as per usual with this agency. Phone girl recognizes me as a regular so she no longer bothers with the details beyond time and length. Arrived in the apartment to be greeted by a beautiful girl, very slim with proportionate enhancements. Shower was quick and very friendly, lots of hugging and dfk and some chitchat. Moved on to the bed where after some dfk she begins with a nice vigorous bbbj, while I explored with some digits. Changed this up to prolonged 69 during which she seemed to genuinely enjoy herself. She's trimmed and clean, tastes delicious. On goes the cover and we start with very energetic CG, no laziness from this one. She reached back and massaged my balls as I sucked on her very responsive nipples. lots of DFK rhroughout. She eventually pulls me up into a sitting position where she grinds against me, tons of hugging, DFK and light scratching on my back. Seems to enjoy getting kissed and licked all over her face and neck. I couldnt wait anymore so I picked her up (she weighs nothing) and lay her on her back to finish in mish. Stayed in her after the finale for a few minutes, hugging and kissing some more. Time was up but she had me flip over for a short but enjoyable back and shoulder massage with baby oil. More DFK in the shower and at the door, 15 minutes past the end of my appointment. I dont usually repeat but she is definitely in my top 5 experiences ever, I'll be knocking at her door next week.

Making someone's eyes roll in the back of their head. Lol

I love listening to music while I clean and prepare for my day and fantastically fun life as a companion! These songs seems fitting lol:icon_wink: Britney Spears - Work B**ch Britney Spears - My Prerogative

You see? You are already getting wiser with age ;)

Jenn's ads are posted as "the Ultimate Companion" I wasn't disappointed in the least. Her pictures don't do her justice since she is even sexier in person. Met me at the door with a great smile and made me feel comfortable from the get go. A real nice lady, great body, personality and very easy to talk to. I had her undivided attention. You'll definitely leave with a smile on your face. Hope to see her every time she comes to town. Thanks Jenn :icon_smile:

Or should I say Adult Online Store....My order from PinkCherry has arrived and only took 2 days (not even a full 48hrs actually)!! Lots of sexy lingerie, hot dresses and a variety of toys/fetish gear!!:icon_wink: I splurged and treated myself, plus I have a photo shoot in May....

Stay away. Trouble.

Hopefully she is okay but it does sound out of the ordinary that she did not respond given the fact you would see her very regularly. There are gentlemen I have more exclusive arrangements with along with regular clients who I have grown to very fond of them and vice versa. If were going anywhere, I would certainly be letting them know because I wouldn't want them to worry. Given her silence, from what I can gather speaking ONLY from personal experience and other ladies I have known in the business who I've seen come and go, this could be more of a personal issue they are probably dealing with. It's probably best to leave it for now. I know that's not an easy thing but clients and SPs are only a small fraction of each other' lives and hopefully she has others in her life to support her. The possibilities are endless as to what's going on. If she has no ads, maybe she is worried someone has found out what she does for a living. Again, I don't want to speculate but... It's a shame that you will have to wait this one out temporarily or maybe permanent as we all like closure when someone exits our life. I'm sending you good vibes that she will contact you. My telepathy skills are very well honed. Lol.

As mentioned by those who have already posted, there are so many reasons why you may not get a reply. From leaving the business to vacations, family emergencies and even new relationships. But another common reason is feelings. Not everyone is "out" when it comes to working in this industry. For some, it's a totally secret, hidden and separate part of their lives- I could see how feelings going in either direction could seriously complicate things, (in a life that might already be full of complications.) While I tell those I don't want contact with anymore why, some people just aren't good with confrontation.. and though I know you genuinely had the best of intentions, messages like "even if you don't want to see me, please reply" tend to make those who dislike confrontation even more uncomfortable. Just to be clear, I don't think there's anything wrong with caring about/for a companion, (I have clients I've become close friends with over the years.) I just feel that, in many instances, it has to be approached and handled different than with someone who you're not paying. You might get a reply in the future with apologies for the delay and making you worry, or you might never hear from her again.. Either way, the best thing to do is try to not worry or dwell on it. /hugs

The ability to be reached at all hours of the day or night...

I'll jump in here. I've seen this girl 2x. Pics are accurate. She says that she works for xxxtase some of the time. Travels to ktown frequently. She's quite pretty, wicked body and a great gf type of experience. Rates are on par with most similar services. I will repeat for sure. Seems to be a really sweet girl, English not her strong suit, but between her English and my limited "franglais " we communicated without difficulty. I liked her a lot. I don't hobby much in ktown, but look forward to her return.

Agree with a lot of what H and K says. My two favorite clubs are Pigales in Gatineau and Cleopatra in Montreal. Yes, Cleo is pretty hit and miss, but I've had many great experiences there and at $10 a song it's a lot easier to just try someone out in the VIP on a whim.

I have travelled far and wide in the U.S. and Canada and always make an effort to check out tbe local "establishments". For those many reasons as outlined by Mr H &K, I have told many people ( who don't always believe me): Ottawa has the best strip clubs!

Sadie is for certain a good choice, while it has been along time since I saw here, the pics are her, she looks better in person, was nice and accommodating. And she has some reviews, not a lot but some and all positive from what I saw, plus one very positive from me, hehehe. She's a looker and a safe bet

Use Google Chrome image reverse search. (use a PC for better results, phones do not always show all hits) All you need to do is right-click click on an image and then left-click the last option at the bottom. (search Google with this image) Takes 3-5 seconds per picture to get results if the image produces hits. I also search phone numbers, be surprised what results you sometimes find that way.

You may just have some come and see this ass for yourself. Pictures just dont do justice sometimes! Are you looking for a huge juicy ass? or a small firm ass? Do tell :icon_mrgreen: I enjoy a nice big booty myself. Think it's time to enjoy a threesome with a lovely man and a sexy lady. I've deprived myself of a lady for way too long now. BIG BOOTY LOVER ALL THE WAY!

I visited Nicoletta this evening and had a great time. It is always nice to find a new SP visiting from Montreal. I believe she was here a few times last year but I did not get the opportunity to see her. Her pictures are accurate and the location was a nice downtown hotel. She will likely be here until Saturday morning if you wish to see this beautiful lady during her current visit. She indicated she would only do outcalls with people she has met previously. Services provided are GFE, LFK, some DFK, MSOG, BBJ, DATY, digit(s) and greek I didn't partake of the greek, but we did discuss it. YMMV http://halifax.backpage.ca/FemaleEscorts/back-in-town-the-petite-european-from-montreal-438-792-0124/2514215

Yes there are cameras in the CR at pigales . One the ladies has told of a time just a few months back were a fellow decided to grab a hold of her and refused to let go . It was noticed on the monitor and he received the appropriate treatment ( a bloody beating and tossed out side door ) that such a fellow deserves from the security . I did not realize they were filming everything. Are they in every booth? I will look for them next time.

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I have to agree with you Kilt Boy, that it is disrespectful of the clients and the dancers to be videotaping people in the champagne room. This can be used to blackmail people. For those who have seen the movie Snowden, will know that the CSE (Communication Security Establishment) and NSA (National Security Agency) have copies of those videos. Not only will they have these videos but others who can hack into the cloud can get the videos too and have that to blackmail people too. I cannot support a business that can possibly blackmail me so I probably will not be going back to Barbarella's Additional Comments: The other clubs do not have video cameras filming you in the champagne room and i doubt there has been problems in other clubs. Additional Comments: I have not seen cameras in the champagne rooms of Pigale. I am sure the dancers would have told me if there were.

This is not same as having cameras in the Champagne Room(s) where at Barefax full walls separate them and each is private as opposed to Barbarellas where because of the open concept even one camera in the back room can take away the privacy.

one is aimed at the old bar area and the other is the one at top of the stairs. I do not know if they function!!!

I was specifically looking for camera in the Champagne Room at Barefax last year and I couldn't see or find anything anywhere resembling even remotely a camera and I asked the dancer friend who was dancing for me to look for it and she couldn't either and told me there is none. She was a long time Barefax dancer. There may be camera(s) somewhere upstairs where CR booths are located but I very much doubt that there is any camera in the actual small Champagne room booths (numbered at more than a dozen and unlike Barbs CRs they are separated by full walls and are private) at Barefax.

Their are two cameras in the champagne room in the fax look for a light bulb or a fire extinguisher light that doesn't look right. Their is one in the den , one in the playmate, champagne rooms. the cameras in the champagne room in the fax are harder to spot.

Security cameras at Door and cash are expected and almost mandatory. That is a matter of safety for the club and the patrons. The champagne rooms are a different story.

Then a complaint can be filed with bylaws of the city of toronto, provided that this club is located in that city of course. otherwise you'd have to find the bylaws for the specific city or contact the city to see as to if it is legal or illegal in that setting in that location. they may limit security cameras to entry and exits for example.

Man! What a can of worms!! First of all, a huge THANK YOU to Kilt Boy for raising this issue. I'm sure you were somewhat troubled about whether to open this topic, but I'm very glad you did. There is a note about video surveillance at the club, I didn't realize it extended to the CR. On the one hand, the arguments for video surveillance are somewhat valid. But I'm afraid the "EWWWW" factor outweighs them. Fortunately, I don't have any "blackmailability" about any video of me, but it is my privacy, and from what has been said there's WAY too much looseness about how these videos are being played and reused. One interesting issue in the Cloud is that high tech companies are having various files subpoenaed for various reasons. These video files would almost certainly be subject to subpoena in any civil or criminal case. <JOKE>On the other hand, maybe I should hope it gets out. How cool are you among your friends if they find out there's "PORN VIDEO" of you out there? Can we claim residuals??</JOKE> On the issue of the safety of the dancers, which is the only issue I care about, i) there's almost always more than one back there, ii) the dj is usually in the booth, in clear earshot of a yell or scream, iii) even if i) and ii) don't apply, I think if a dancer yelled or screamed, someone would hear it in the club, and iv) any bad-minded customers know all of this. I've never asked, but dancers, do you feel that if the video was removed, you'd feel less safe? So, bottom line, absolutely not acceptable, I won't be going for any dances until it's removed. Which almost certainly means I won't be at the club, unfortunately. Unlike another poster, I really like all of the staff there, and I'm going to miss them!

The most important thing if it's important to you is to ask. My rule of thumb is that if they say yes right away without knowing you, they offer it to everyone. I prefer an answer along the lines of them deciding once they have met you. They almost all use social media oor have an email address. Let them know what you like and see how it goes :-)

I completely agree. When meeting or communicating with a lady for the first time I will politely ask how she feels about kissing and how she feels about me massaging and exploring her body. I'm new to this and only visit MAs right now, but what is working is coming in to CMJ or Brass and having them allow me to meet several available ladies so I can ask these questions. Sometimes when you meet a lady in person her warm embrace and kiss answers those questions up front and you don't need to ask! I completely respect all of the ladies I have met, no matter their particular restrictions. (I don't like that word but I can't find a better one right now.) Overall I have been blown away at how warm, caring, and open these ladies have been. I marvel at the power they have to open themselves to sensation, to let their fears, hangups, and defenses down and let their sensual energy flow. It is a touch of the divine, and being wrapped in that energy by a sweet goddess is an amazing thing. XOXO

Kissing is a MAJOR turn on for me when the chemistry is there! I make my heart pound and my "junior" extra stiff. Then I don't want a massage anymore...I want what my raw animal instincts are telling me to do at a genetic level...in essence ensuring the survival of the human race!

Kissing MA's or SP's?

I would like to share my personal experience with an MA who did not allow kissing on the lips and intimate areas. The trickiest part is that I asked her during the duo shower but my polite question wasn't explicitly answered. My first thought was that she was rather shy. As I attempted to kiss her gently, she would turn her cheek and her body. I took this as a no and I accepted it wholeheartedly. I felt a dilemma in her as she valued me as a good and gentle client. At the same time, she probably didn't want to "lose" me too soon. I read her mind to find out that she was hoping that I would still enjoy to receive some of her other`skills' during the session. This turns out to be very true! I put a serious thought and I decided to let her know how much I appreciated her. As I had the opportunity while she was massaging me in front, what I actually did was performing some light gentle kissing on her neck and shoulder (pecking) while making long inhale of deep breath like you were enjoying the smell of her body. Then, I brought my lips closer to her chin (don't kiss) while giving her another slow and long inhale. The next move is the most critical. I gradually moved my nose slowly to her lower lips and to the angle part and again, making a sensual slow inhale as long as you want (be careful not to touch your lips on hers). She seemed to enjoy what I did to her. I sensed that she felt more comfortable to know that I was respecting her boundary. She reacted to this by voluntarily open her mouth a little with a heavy breathing which allowed me to smell her entire lips and mouth with my lips closed. I loved the smell of her lips and mouth which was warm and moist. And these fun moments continued with a periodic soft moanings and whispering compliments. I can assure you that this experience is equally tantalizing. The best part, she gave me a wonderful compliment that I was one of her best "boyfriend" whom she have ever met. That was really sweet and lovely! Having this unique experience will definitely make me want to repeat with her again.

I would love to find a good MA that also likes to kiss, that kind of sensual massage would be amazing but I've yet to have a massage that offers it (I don't want to ask). I'm clean, well groomed and have very good hygiene so I would hope that helps.