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Yikes. Keeping an SP to yourself costs her business, which by that jump, could lead her out of the industry- so unless you're prepared to cover the cost of that lost business, maybe you shouldn't keep her to yourself less you never see her again. :-/ I don't get how they don't understand that... the better off business-wise your SP is, the more fun you're gonna have. :-/

I fear for the upcoming years. I mean, we live in a disposable society and that has leaked into the dating world now too. Its sad sight these days. Everyone... Male and female are out to fulfill thier own needs at no cost to them selves! " you mean You want me in fullfill duties of a woman while playing the man too??? Hard to be a woman when I am busy being the man too" Or.... " so you want me to do all the gargage, cars, snow and lawn. Plus pay all bills/ checks, then go grocery shopping too? " And Yes the porn world has made it even more difficult. " so now you want me in high heels after I worked all day and cleaned house and worked all day? Then u want sex 5 times a week too" Or " so I worked hard all week to helpbin house and my job...and is it too much to expect a wife with perfect hair and heels and act like a pornstar" We have lost our balence and expectaions have become too much to handle on both sides of the fence. Its funny, when I date, I will never sleep with you on first date! You might have a kiss. You need to develop real connection before you get in my bed. I am proud of this. And ppl think cause I am Sophia ...an escort....that I must be easy. Hell No! I am such a prude when it comes to dating! You got to earn the right to be with me. Lol.

I also believe guilt is a taught/learned behavior. Through generations we have been taught a long list of things we should feel guilty about and many of these things are judgements from others on how we should behave. I believe we have to honestly look at many of the things we feel guilty about and determine if it is programmed/learned or if it IS truly coming from within ourselves as a guiding point. So many people feel guilty when they "self care" yet this is one of the most important things we can do for ourselves. Life is not black or white. There are so many nuances and intricacies to it and every situation is unique to the people involved. if we approach our lives with love and respect and in doing what's best for ourselves and those involved, I feel there will be a lot less guilt and a lot more love and happiness. In regard to the aspects pertaining to this industry, there is SO much judgement and guilt flung about from so many sources. If it adds to your life, makes you happy, fulfills a need and isn't hurting anyone, why feel guilty? If someone is guilty because of someone else's opinion or judgement, the true issue is why does someone else's opinion have the ability to steal power and make them feel that way. If it's because of a relationship, where does the guilt stem from and is it because we should or shouldn't do this or that (learned behavior) or are we ignoring something we are not open and honest about looking at. Having the thought of a Universal Standard is a learned concept. It implies everyone has to fit into the box and everyone is the same when that's very far from the truth. Each and every person is unique and what bothers one, doesn't bother another. If both have the same experience and society judges that experience as negative or bad and something you should feel guilty about, if one feels guilt and the other doesn't, what does that say? It says that it's a taught/learned behavior. I think we unnecessarily suffer a LOT due to learned behaviors and limiting beliefs.. including guilt!

There is nothing wrong with talking about location,personality and overall experience! Save the juicey stuff between you and her...I think that should be private as she may or may not share the same intimate experience with someone else and out of respect

I think the official policy here is that recos are works of fiction, as far as the law is concerned :) And I think that the reason there are fewer recos is that there are fewer people hanging out here generally. I'd actually noticed a significant uptick over the last six months or so, at least in Ottawa. And to get back to the original point of this thread: I think they're very much worthwhile. I use them myself when deciding who I might like to meet, and if I have a good time, I write them for others.

Had a chance to drop into the Mate this afternoon hoping to connect with Lana and lo and behold she was absent but Delicious was there. OMG, just the opposite of last week. She remembered me and I couldn't believe it when I spotted her and she spotted me. Not to sound like a broken record, but I find the woman totally intoxicating. Was a fabulous session. I feel like a kid when I'm around her and I'm a senior citizen, (at 65). Its ridiculous! Kind of a thunderstruck feeling. Awesome. Adora was there again and I got to enjoy her stage thing. She then sat with an older gent to chat and off they went to the CR. Nothing like "grey power"! Old farts rule!(lol)

It doesn't matter to me if she does or not, what matters is that she provides good service and is recommended. Lots of SPs don't have websites, am I going to completely ignore them, no. What a website does give me is more info about them and their rates, so saves me from having to ask certain questions and can go straight to other topics. Question - have you read a website and decided this person isn't the right fit for you?! ... Usually they say all the good things about themselves...

Thanks! Yes ...keeping my name. And when I can share my surprise will do asap. Thehehe....I appreciate everyones support and help on this matter!

Indeed! Here's a tip. I use Google Chrome all the time on my PC, when browsing. It's set up so that anytime when I right click on a pic. I can then left click on the bottom option (search Google with this image). Results show in 2-3 seconds. You can search the pics of an average BP ad in less than 2 minutes.

Lady Sophia has more reccos than anyone in the area. Take the guess work away and be guaranteed a fabulous time.

I think ill toft and see what shes like anyone seen her yet?

Personally, as a rule (and any rule has some exception of course), I don't meet providers without website. And not just because website gives me more information (what is really good thing and I appreciate Lady's efforts to give the answers to my possible questions). If provider doesn't have website, it is indication for me that she doesn't care much about her business, doesn't really care about her clients, doesn't want to make extra efforts. And I prefer to meet the girl who does. As I said, there are exception of course but I think it is true in general. That question about rate does not always mean that guy didn't read website. There is the other reason for this as well. From my personal experience, rate posted on website is not always the rate charged by provider when I book an appointment. When I ask about donation for booking in the morning for example, I get sometimes lower rate that posted on provider's website as "morning" rate or "special" rate. The other situation, when in respond to my rate request I get the question how did I find this sp. If I mention website, rate is exactly as posted there. But if I came from BP or TERB ad, rate can be 50 bucks less then posted on website. I don't want to say that this is common practice, not of course, but it happens.

I think one of the big differences between now and the past is the size of the field you have to play with. In the pre-Internet age, your social circle was limited. If you wanted to play games and move on then there was only a small number of people you could move on to... and if you made a habit of that, word would get around and your chances of deciding that you wanted to be serious about it this time would decline rapidly. Expanding your pool of potential partners was possible, but took time and effort. Nowadays, Tinder and other apps are full of as many hookups as you like (if you live in a reasonably-sized urban area, at least), and none of them are likely to know each other.

http://thunderbay.backpage.ca/FemaleEscorts/140hh-3-days-only-just-landed-super-sexy-petite-and-pretty-fun-and-playful-incalls/69446418 real, pics are real from this ad. aparently she has been here before last year but ive never seen and not sure what name she was under. Not rushed, saw for hh, 100% safe, no parking lot wait, good experience all around.

Hello Gents, From a curious mind who loves the subject, what do you consider a perfect time length for a B&G and for you, is it simply a cut to chase connection and everyone leaves smiling?

Hi hun, I am a pro sensual domme and offer both sensual nuru and play wrestling as one of my expertise! I have a few recommendation on my sensual and play wrestle services. Out and incall available You can PM or email me @ [email protected] -Aeris Blue :)

I know lately I've been finding that babes in thigh high socks is very sexy! Starting this thread so more people can see if they feel the same way...

Yes she is legit She is the real deal I have seen her many times in the past I have been trying to convince her to come to T bay

And if it's offered, that's up to the girl to decide and if she does and men like it... What's the problem?!

Thank you everyone for the Birthday wishes. Unfortunately I worked most of it. (My suggestion of a 'MikeyDay' national holiday has not yet caught on.) I will make sure to treat myself soon though. I appreciate all of the kind words. You guys are the best ;)

There's no luck involved. It's a business. He takes out the wallet. The dancers stick around until the money is spent. Then the dancer moves on.

Maybe THAT's the answer he's looking for... For some people, lack of humility is a turn off. In a strip club, anything that turns women off is clearly a handicap for the client. But then again, confidence is also often seen as a turn on, so...

Hi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ massage... My name is Vivian. I'm 28 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes ...., beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places. You have finally met your dream girl... .I great you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 6l3 7l2 l2OO mon to sat 10am to 7pm

I recommend not relying totally on Lyla given that it may be sold and changed quite a bit. A website is one way to protect yourself from relying on it too much

Google or Instagram Rahyndee James you will find your answer.

** Available this week and most mornings! Email me to book through daisydukes.me/contact ** I'm Daisy, an independent, 21 year old student in the Ottawa area. I quite adore all people, old, young, any and every ethnicity, and so this general adoration of people and their own personal qualities and talents helps me to provide sessions tailored to each clients unique needs. I am a friendly, well-read and affectionate young woman, currently in the midst of my university schooling. I strive for the best in all areas of my life and particularly so in matters of my private companionship. My description, rates, more photos & contact information can be found on my website daisydukes.me Recommendations (up to date) can be found here: https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=246768 See you soon!

This has been my experience when I've made a connection with someone. There's no discount on what's in the envelope; you just get more time for your money. Yep. I'm definitely in this category. An expensive weekend away, or an unexpected car repair... these things mean that the money I have for recreation and life's curve-balls is now unavailable for spending on the activities we're discussing here.

Happy Birthday!! I hope your day was absolutely wonderful:icon_wink: Birthday Hugs! Lexy

Been admiring Angel from the Brass Club for a while. She has great pictures and has been advertised as a Megan Fox look alike. A couple of weeks ago when I was at the Brass Club with another girl. This beautiful girl was going thru the hallway and stopped and waved at me. I thought it was someone else, but the girl I was with told me that it was Angel. Well later that evening when I was on Twitter I sent her a message saying who I was. And she replied that she thought I was handsome :) Since then we have twittered each other. I was told that she gave a RMT type massage, but that she did not kiss. That was a bit disappointing as I usually would not see a girl that did not like to kiss or cuddle. But one day she posted her face for a day on twitter and I thought she was gorgeous, better then Megan :) So I decided to see her in person one day. We have been teasing each other on twitter for a while. Yesterday I saw she was available so I booked her for my regular noon appointment. When I got to the club, the beautiful Jessica greeted me with a hug and kiss and lead me to one of the larger rooms with the double tables. We had a few minutes to chat and catch up on our lives as we had not had time to chat for a while. A few minutes later Angel entered the room. Now she is a very petite beautiful spinner. she had her hair down like I had requested. She did look a bit like Megan Fox, but I think she is more beautiful and has very sexy eyes. She also had luscious full lips. Too bad she didn't kiss :(. Well we sat and chatted for a while, about our pet collections. She loves animals like I do. But it ended up that my zoo was much larger then hers lol. Soon we started the showers and I undressed her. She is very slim but has nice natural breast and nice buns. Perfectly proportional for her size. We cleaned each other very nicely. And went back to the table where she gave me a nice firm RMT style massage as I requested. Then she asked if I wanted to give her a massage. I said yes and began massaging her very sexy body. She said that I was pretty good. Then it was my turn to get my massage on the front. This is where she is very skilled. Reverse massage was offered. and I had a nice view of her perfect bum. Mutual pleasure was allowed. I gave her Jello legs :) Her finish was very long and teasing. She seems to enjoy looking at herself and me in the large mirror next to us. I also enjoyed watching her in the mirror. She left me with a toe curling finish and I spent a few minutes quivering and twitching :). Then we took a quick shower to clean up and then chatted for a while. She is not a clock watcher. We both enjoyed our time together. And had many things to chat about. She enjoys working at the Brass Club and is good at what she does. I enjoyed looking at her beautiful face and body when she sat on me to massage my front. She told me she had a lot of regulars. I can see why. Now you are going to have to see for yourself. Now if I could only I could get a kiss from those lips :)

Usually I have seen these as 15min timings. Its really just a quick and dirty service, pun intended ;), that is useful to busy blokes who just need to, you know... Release some stress, if you will lol

i will be at NUDEN tomorrow , thursday & Saturday 12pm 6 pm

I totally agree with Prufrock, I rarely see a SP unless she has a website, unless she has good reviews on Lyla. Setting up a website takes considerable time and effort, although even the most basic website is useful. The quality of the website is a partial reflection of the woman behind it. Having a professional website shows credibility and should help to answer the most common questions clients may have before contacting a SP, and so theoretically should screen out people looking for different experiences, while saving time answering basic questions. The best websites are user friendly, provide a variety of quality and recent pictures, a personalized background about the provider -- which should include a decent amount of detail to inform as to what kind of experience we should expect (YMMV)--, likes and dislikes, rates and an easy way to book an appointment. Recent reviews can also be useful as long as the links work. If the guy doesn't take the time to read the website, is he the kind of client you really want to deal with?

My need has led to new Come & Go options including 15, 20 and 30 min options. That means your greed can be fed (mine too *wink*) Also a reminder that as of June 16th, I will no longer be meeting new friends so it's a great time to say hello. Available Wednesday - Friday this week. See my website for full details. Also check out my blog and see what visuals arouse!

Happy Birthday :)

I just realized that today is my 11th year on Lyla. Holy crap, where did the time go? LOL There have been so many changes over the 11 years I've been on here. At the start, you couldn't even do recommendations. Though there is only a handful of us left from the beginning, I want to thank them for all their hard work over the years to get this thing going. If only the newer members could see what this site looked like at the beginning and how much it's changed from that time, you'd be amazed.

Happy birthday Mikeboy and may your year ahead be filled with hot anticipation, sexy experiences and many sweet dreams!

This is my vote. Kate in Kanata: http://ottawa.backpage.ca/FemaleEscorts/new-number-ultimate-addiction-will-b-l-o-w-your-mind-sexy-wild-kate/41452452

Fake pics... https://instaliga.com/ru/avital_akko?page=1419093877050410848_34130587&loadCount=1 https://www.google.ca/search?q=Avital+Akko&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD-47dyv_SAhVH8GMKHaSGCogQ_AUIBigB&biw=1680&bih=886

Jessy Celeste, no contest. Great woman and so sexy/sensual too!

Absolutely agree - as you say, this business is fading fast, and there's no better way to alienate the few remaining patrons than to annoy with pretensions of modesty. Just cut to the chase and wear a burka then! After a few years of abstaining, I recently visited Taboo and Pigale, then Playmate (all decent at one time), and was appalled by the lacklustre and downright indifferent stage shows. The room adventures were equally lame. May have been the night, but it was depressing for an avid fan of this sort of thing. Will now be seeking a MA or SP that can slake my lust for voyeuristic fun and frolic. If anyone can recommend such a gal, I'd be most grateful!

Jocelyn Ardenne is a very long time and respected member of this board. You will be 100 percent happy with her.

Happy Lyla/Cerbiversary! How many years until we're Lyla Masters? ;)

Lose Control by Hedley. It's a no pants dance party!

I'd like to add some remarks based on my personal experience regarding this topic. Escort or private companion is a business of course and many business rules are applicable including the rates depending on market. But at the same time it is very specific, very personal one and the best escort service is always based on some sort of relationship. And because it is very individual - again, just my personal impression - higher rate does not mean better service, at least not for every guy. About being regular client...Over years, I was a loyal client of several Ladies. And, except maybe one case, I never had any direct rate discount. But I always had the other signs of appreciation which were really important for me. That could be keeping specific day and time reserved for me, not booking any other clients close to my session, spending more time with me just talking over the glass of wine or being my "shrink". Several times I got a free session as my birthday present - and the best thing was not free session itself (what is really nice:-) of course) but the fact that she remembered about my birthday. Or special lunch prepared for me with my favorite pancakes - that woman was (and is) really special. She retired from business now but we still meet from time to time. A lot of good memories when I go back remembering my escort "relationships" (or maybe relationships without quotes?)...

Possibly. I'm a bit more optimistic. I do agree that most clients and many workers aren't going to do anything to draw attention to themselves until stigma has been addressed. However, there's a growing number of mainstream public health and human rights organizations that are taking a rights and evidence based stance on sex work. They have both resources and credibility to push decriminalization forward. As we've seen, globally there is little appetite for openly taking a morality-based stance on sex work, and most organizations and governments would prefer to cast us all as victims of trafficking and exploitation (still a morality based stance, but one in denial of itself.) While this is still bad for clients and sex workers alike, it does make it a bit harder to justify legislation that is designed to harm us. The desire to ostensibly save us from harm provides a point where we can apply pressure toward better laws (much harder to do if we are all just cast as immoral, social deviants.) In addition, while sex work is stigmatized the world over, there have been some significant successes, most notably New Zealand's 2003 Prostitution Reform Act, which decriminalized sex work and was developed in consultation with sex workers. While not perfect, it's pretty damned good, and was accomplished without a large movement of clients applying pressure. It's going to take some time, C-36/PCEPA in the wake of Bedford was a pretty big blow, but I think we'll get there.

Given that there are ongoing sweeps and stings in many Canadian cities, non-enforcement is not a reality. This includes recent stings in Winnipeg airport hotels and body rub parlour raids in Toronto. The city of Montreal is looking to start cracking down on erotic massage parlours as well. While indoor workers may not be a law enforcement priority, it's naive to think that law enforcement is taking a harm reduction or hands off approach to indoor sex work. That's inaccurate. Most of these groups are members of the Canadian Alliance for Sex Work Law Reform which is working for broad decriminalization, and work with a diversity of sex workers, which may include but are not limited to street-based workers. And while you may see street-based sex work as a public nuisance and significantly different from indoor sex work, the sex workers' rights movement does not. Zones of tolerance and other legislation that pushes sex workers into areas that are more dangerous to work (such as industrial areas), or where they are removed from where the clients are will always fail. These types of laws continue to criminalize sex workers and to my knowledge are never created in consultation with the sex workers who will be impacted by them. Street-based sex work cannot be excluded from the discourse or movement for sex workers rights. All sex work occurs on a continuum, and if we want to make things better for sex workers and their clients, we need solutions that do so for all sex workers and their clients. Addressing legal barriers to working indoors will help address the "nuisance" of street-based work. Beyond that, a more holistic push to address the social factors that drive people to "survival" work will have further positive impact on street-based sex work - so addressing poverty, an insufficient social safety net, housing insecurity, lack of affordable education, economic factors that push people to leave their home communities for bigger cities where they lack a support system, employment discrimination against trans people, etc. Clients don't have to support the organizations and work that already exists, but it would be prudent to do so. Sex workers have been organizing for decades, and have created a vibrant and robust global movement. I have yet to see any meaningful movement toward clients organizing for decriminalization. While you may view the work of sex workers rights organizations to be a failure, there have been many successes in an uphill battle against stigma and moralizing. If clients don't want to support sex worker orgs, how are they going to show up and advocate for decriminalization? How will they participate in applying the public pressure that definitely is necessary to create change?

As a transgender provider, I've been constantly surprised by how accepting men tend to be. I was so worried about them knowing when I first started, but now I'm quite open about it. Being a sex worker has really given me confidence and self-esteem, and I'm really happy with the decision I made to do it. I've read a lot about how transgender women tend to end up as sex workers because they have less employment options due to discrimination. Has anyone found themselves in that situation? I'm curious to know.

At a juncture in my life realized the time had come to be "open to new" experiences. Made that my CERB name and approach. The resulting community relationships were accepting and enriching emotionally and sensually.

It has long been a fantasy to try Greek and none of my mainstream partners in the past have been willing to try. So I decided my next SP visit would be with someone who enjoyed this and offered it. I always pre-book well in advance and look up the SP's I am interested in and took notice of Sabrina's posts (her cerb name is Grass_Hopper). She always seemed so sassy and mentioned a few times that she loves Greek. Booked a morning session (love morning sex) with her and called an hour in advance to confirm. She mentioned she was expecting Rogers after our allocated time (she just mioved to Ottawa) but hates to rush and asked if we could meet for coffee 30 minutes early. Being a big fan of getting to know the person before we get to the playtime I happily agreed. We met for coffee near her place and I have to say it was a neat experience. You ever see a sexy woman and wonder what they look like naked? Well I was sitting with one in the sun knowing I would be experiencing all of her...it was very nice. After a short while we headed to her place (still no rush at all) and talked a bit more. She excused herself to freshen up and I got comfortable. When she got back she had me lie on my front and gave me a baby powder massage (very nice BTW, never had that done before). She was stripped down to a cute set of underwear that really showed off her amazing ass. She flipped me over and proceeded to tease me for many, many, many minutes. I was going crazy as she performed a great BBBJ, rimming and many other crazy things that made my head spin. I kept asking to taste her, or give her some pleasure and she kept saying she wasn't done with me yet. The whole focus for her was pleasing me...and man was that nice (although I do love giving a woman pleasure, it was nice to be selfish for a while). She brought me to the edge so many times and decided it was time for me to do what I wanted. Some kissing then DATY for a while, greatly enjoyed her beautiful and tasty kitty, then on to the main event. The raincoat went on (she put it on with her mouth, something so erotic about that) and we started in Mish. She knew I wanted to try Greek so after a few minutes this look came into her eyes and she guided me in. I am not going to get crazy graphic but the view and feeling was amazing. We did this for quite some time and there is nothing like hearing a sexy woman moaning 'Don't stop'. Because she had me close to the edge so many times my stamina kicked into overdrive. Sabrina took this as a challenge and many more positions, activities and sensual play was performed until she was satisfied that I was...well satisfied.:wink: After a little bit of cleanup she did something that surprised me a bit, she came over, sat on my lap and gave me a very passionate kiss. It surprised me because it was a very intimate and well, GF thing and it was very nice. I noticed after I showered that we were well past our time (despite starting early). She just shrugged and said some things should not be rushed. This was a crazy hot GFE/PSE (definitely PSE) experience and particularly memorable as I tried many new things that I enjoyed very much. So much so that as I was writing this I was getting excited again just thinking about it...thanks Sabrina, looking forward to our next encounter!:twisted: