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For me as long as it's reasonably within the neighborhood then it's all good. But I've seen some get younger annually for years sort of like Benjamin Button or have some how figured a way to freeze time for more than a decade. Hands never lie. Peace MG

I think you've handled this really well and professionally Melanie, it's speaks to your trustworthiness and professionalism.

And we have confirmation! I was looking up something else on Yelp, and came across this. "Coming from the US for a business trip in Ottawa. I have to say Barefax is the best strip club I've been to. All of my previous experience has been in the US. The girls are a lot more friendly, not pushy at all. They're more beautiful as well. The only place in the US that has equivalent quality of girls is Vegas. What's more, you're free to touch. Maybe the locals are used to it, but coming from outside, I definitely had an excellent experience. The price is normal, no cover (for hotel stayers) is a def plus." Congratulations, ladies, you're the best!! (But all of us locals already knew that)

I have met many women in this business from all walks of life. One who is long gone was a teacher whose husband had died, had no life insurance with 2 young kids and her house about to go into foreclosure. Yes, it may be a desperate attempt for immediate cash but also no one story or background is the same. And she was very successful in this line of work for the amount of time she was involved in it. Some people who have entered this business have also had past or current careers and do this to add to their existing income. It's a nice bonus. However this doesn't mean because they are desperate for cash and even if they were, it doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it. A lot of women I have known turned this into a successful side business and do enjoy it. Some have turned it into a full time profession. People prostitute themselves in many ways just like the government workers I see going to work everyday pushing papers. No offense to government workers but they will leave with a pension etc. That's what they do and if that's what they enjoy doing, more power to them. This is what I do. I've really stopped justifying what I do for a living because what we see in the media and the stigma of prostitution will always be there. I know who I am and if people want to judge me, go ahead. If I really disliked what I did, I wouldn't have spent the amount of time I have here building my business with great repeat clients. I've treated it like a business and not some sort of fly by night attraction where I come in and out when I need a jumpstart flow of cash.

It's dishonest, but as Melanie says sometimes desperation can prevent people from thinking straight/considering other options. There is no excuse for dishonesty, but there are plenty of justifications. Putting myself in an sp's shoes I'd probably have a list of other things to try before misleading people. Temporarily offering a special rate, getting a secondary job to supplement income, taking out a loan. Plenty of other valid options that would bring in more $ without turning people off, but some people choose to justify dishonesty because they believe the world owes them something, that they deserve a better lot in life and they're willing to do anything to get it.

That's thing - take notice of who uses the "new to town" or "new" headlines (when, in reality, they are neither) - most likely the same type who uses the misleading leaving announcements. These are more of the less professional/fly-by-night types. They are not really interested in building clientele (or even pleasing the ones they get) - they need calls.....NOW. They are not really looking a few months down the road. lol It's only a matter of time this type of SP's runs out of potential, dare I say, "victims", and tries a new tactic...or have to end up leaving town to try the "leaving soon" tactic elsewhere. Ironic, eh? :p

It's just what MelBun said.....it's a tactic. A poor marketing tactic, at least; but it works on some people. Most girls announce they are leaving, and actually are leaving. The more you get to know who is who and where they are from, you will be able to tell the real "leaving soon announcements" vs those that are just trying to drum up business (and in turn, lose it). Other times a girl may actually have planned to leave town on said day, but circumstances change and they end up leaving on another date - it happens too. :)

No. The club doesn't make money off dances, so they don't care to measure that. That would be the best way to determine what type of dancers to have on the roster, but they go by the look they think customers want, regardless of evidence. I've seen busy dancers get told they can no longer work certain shifts or that they simply can't work there anymore. Dancers generally get fired/restricted based on their actions (ie. breaking the rules), size, and sometimes the colour of their skin.

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There are so much ignorance, so many limiting beliefs and biases floating about society that sex work is an easy target. People making judgements that no one would ever do this willingly or with enjoyment because of the way it's portrayed and the way we have been brought up to view it. There has definitely been a shift to presenting it more openly and honestly as real and legitimate work, chosen by those who do it. As has been mentioned, read some of the sites designed to positively promote sex work, the blogs that speak about it honestly and the ladies who chose to be in it. THOSE are the views that should have the most impact on how the industry should be viewed not those who chose to react from a place of ignorance. If you step back and look at it as work and then step further back and look at work in big picture terms, there are those jobs that people would and wouldn't do. That's the thing about work, if everyone was geared to only do prestigious high paying jobs or only financial or only retail, there would be a whole failure in society. There are jobs for everyone and it takes many different people to make society work effectively. Sex work is included in this. Some people want to do it and some don't. Those who do, should be allowed to just as those who wish to enjoy that, should be permitted to. Just as those who chose to be garbage men or fish cleaners or bankers or lawyers should be free to do that and people free to chose to enjoy what is being offered. If people could simply look at many things with a different perspective and not attached personal "crap" to it, we would all be living in a much better world. Thankfully, there is at least a bigger stream of varying perspectives than there used to be.

There is a gap in knowledge around how people who sell and purchase sexual services exchange information and communicate with one another. Considering the recent changes to Canadian law that are directly impacting the ways that people advertise and communicate it is vital that we address this gap in understandings and work towards the development of a better evidence base to inform the (re)development of policy and law. Most sex industry research focuses on the attitudes, understandings or experiences of either people who provide sexual services (i.e., sex workers) OR the people who purchase these services (i.e., clients). We are seeking to provide a forum for both people who sell and pay for sexual services. We believe that bringing the voices and perspectives together will help to better understand the complexities of the sex industry in Canada, and in particular the factors influencing health and safety within, and in relation to, the industry. Please click the image below to see if you are eligible to participate in this research study.

Hi community- thought I would post and get your thoughts on this... There are times I see ads for providers that highlight "last day/week/night", "only here for two nights", etc... But then, you see the ads continue to post beyond that original end date. I recently was communicating with an SP about a visit, but she was apparently leaving on Monday... I couldn't get a schedule to work before that, so thought I missed the opportunity... however, the following days and weeks, this SP continues to post local availability. So instead of now being excited she is here and available when I thought I missed out, I find myself thinking... hhhmmm why did you deceive me about leaving when it was totally unnecessary. I see similar posts and examples of this often and am curious to hobbyist and SP take on this type of ad. I don't believe there is any ill intent, but it makes me think twice about booking with an SP that misleads in this manner. Thoughts??

I was fortunate to spend a delicious half hour with Ms Bunny today. Short but sweet. Maybe too short? But we're all busy people, and she can achieve a lot in a short space of time, that's for sure. She is tattooed, has purple hair, and is as hot as all get out. As sweet to the taste as she is on the eyes. She'll have you moaning uncontrollably as warm waves of sensation flow through your body. An experience you'll think about long after it's over. Not to mention a lovely and convenient downtown location. The best time you'll ever have on top of an alligator, that's for sure...

I would be more inclined to book a 23 yr old than an 18 yr old.

Issue has been taken care of, please disregard this.

Glad to hear everything worked out!

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yes several... Windows Movie Maker does a great job. you can also use Powerpoint Windows movie maker takes a bit more learning to use, but its has some cool editing features, and you can also put on sound and manipulate it (fade in, fade out). Powerpoint is easier to use and when you are finished you set it into automatic advance and it will click through to the end... there are other programs. For powerpoint, I just whipped up a power point display... took me 10 minutes to animate 8 pictures. you go to transitions and at the very far right you will see "advance on" select the time... and select how long you want each slide to be shown for... if you really want film speed, select less then 1 second per slide... 00:00:10 (1/10 of a second) is a decent animation speed. and click apply to all slides.

(theres been a change, pls disregard title, which can not be edited. I will visit casselman soon, but this week wont work.) Hi! I'll be available in Ottawa from the late-afternoon of Wed the 24th until early Saturday (20th) morning. I will also return next week from Wed-Sat as usual. As always, I'm in a discreet, smoke-free environment with ample street and lot parking available. During my visit, both day time and night sessions are available. (Late night visits by advance booking only, unless we already know each other.) Also, I'm an early bird so don't be shy if early mornings are a good time for you (some advance notice needed (1hrs if very early), unless PJs, bleary eyes and a teddy bear being dragged by his paw is your thing) It never hurts to ask though =-) Duos are now available with advance booking. Contact me for more info. More info will be posted soon both on my profile, in ads and on my site. For those of you I have yet the pleasure of meeting, here's a bit more about myself. I'm someone who is open-minded & enjoys romance as well as the wild loss of control where chemistry causes a lack of inhibitions and even for those who are more daring... the darker world of fetish, bdsm, role playing & domination etc. I'm a slim & athletic but curvy 5'7, (5'11 with heels) 36D 24 34 with long dark hair (Pls note my hair is now shorter than in some of the photos, although still long. The price of natural hair is it needs to be cut occasionally. More new pix regularly posted) and big blue/green eyes. I invite you to visit my profile to learn more about me and see some of my pix. I just added a bunch of new ones again! You can also view my new website http://www.JessyCeleste.weebly.com Planning ahead is recommended but not necessary. I am available for over-night companionship and dinner dates (obviously we'd have to plan ahead for that lol) as well. I'm educated, worldly, well cultured, unassuming and have eclectic taste in everything from music to hobbies to philosophy. I think versatility is the spice of life. So I can be soft and delicate, wild and eager to please, impish and Fun or assertive, domineering and nasty. I'm a passionate person and not afraid to dive deep into someone I am with.. So don't be shy to tell me what mood you are in and I can tap into that part of my psyche and have a great time doing it. =) I LOVE getting all dressed up and requests are more than welcome. I have a vast array of outfits, (school girl, sexy stripper, romantic lingerie & domina (PVC,Latex etc), regular/secretary) as well as tools for the more daring of adventurers. I aim to please because I want to see you again when I next visit. Chez moi $240h $180hh (multiple hours work on declining scale. Benefits to on-going relationship/frequent visits.) 2hr $440 3hr $600 Please contact me if interested in Overnights, 24hr and Multi-Day-Get-Away packages. Chez vous $290h (within reasonable distance) For Dom, Fetish & BDSM, please see below. Women and Couples also, very very welcome (additional contribution for additional companion Fetishes, BDSM and/or domination, are by hobbyist specific request only and further contributions may or may not be requested, depending on several factors. IE the nature of the subject, frequency of visits, appointment length, number of extra specialties within one appointment and so on. I pride myself on being very fair to both of us in my pricing. For those who are interested in such ventures; I am very well versed in this world and have a great selection of equipment/toys/attire etc. As for fetishes, many have been surprised that I was the one girl who actually heard of "it" before. =) To see what others have to say about the time they've spent with me, please check out my recos via the link below. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=53018 And don't forget you can check out my profile for pics and a bit more about me. My face, Tattoos & piercings are hidden for discretion's sake but photos are otherwise unaltered. Please allow a few days for reply via PM. Text is best for prompt reply.. Please note, nowhere near all my interests are listed here. Im very versatile and um... creative *giggle* No private or spoofed numbers please. (They will be ignored.) I don't answer calls I am not expecting, please text. Hope to hear from you soon! Kisses, JessyCeleste 438-274-3853 (Now, finally on Twitter) @JessyCeleste1 http://www.JessyCeleste.weebly.com

So, I boast that I am the type of SP who provides comfort from both ends: Yours, and Mine. That being said, I do so because not only do I not like lingerie, but I don't like sitting around all day in something that is making me uncomfortable. Using this to my advantage, I opted for hosting in a tshirt and sexy panties, which seemed to really be working for in the whole "Girl next door" type of vibe which is exactly what I am (Depends where you lived really lol), and wanted. My question comes now, do you care if your SP's are wearing makeup? I've had clients set up plans with me, confirm times and then cancel or ask for a discount because I wasn't wearing make up. I've been feeling extremely beautiful lately, and with summer right around the corner I try to avoid make up as much as possible due to my sensitive skin mixing with the UV rays and all the other bad stuff in summer. I've attached some photos to this thread, I think I look great, but again. The question is: Do you care if your SP's have make up on, does it make a difference if they boast a very relaxed, been friends for a while type setting? --- --- All input is welcomed and deemed important.

I've seen Ashley, who also advertises as Marina. Very beautiful, decent location. Service functional.

I've seen her three or four times. She's a natural Dom - not faked, not acted, it's her :) She's very beautiful, intelligent, fun and interesting. I'm a fan but some people find her quirkiness to be unsettling. But if you want Dom, physical, psychological, emotional - she's your girl, if you want beauty and intelligence, she's your girl, if you're ok with not being entirely in control and at ease and occasionally wondering if everything is ok - she's your girl.

Business idea - stripper bibs Or ... to keep the theme ... Bring back the DICKIE !

Hmm, I think we are glossing over an important point here. The question isn't whether or not you look good with or without makeup, nor is it about what the majority of clients prefer. The question is, are you advertising wearing makeup or not? If you are advertising photos wearing makeup, then you should strive to deliver what you are advertising. If you are advertising photos without makeup, then you should strive to deliver what you are advertising. This doesn't apply to all situations, some providers don't post face pics for example, and this way there are no expectations. At the end of the day, what you are advertising to us is what we believe we are getting. I think you look fine without makeup, as many women do, if you are advertising without makeup and some guys are getting upset about that, then they really aren't worth your time. I have personally encountered a mature 40-50 year old sp in the past that chose to heavily apply makeup in her ad and then showed up with none of it on. Of course her advertised age also matched the makeup she had applied at the time, rather than her actual face, needless to say I did not repeat.

I'm happy either way, as I tend to appreciate variety. Mostly I want someone to be comfortable and confident. For some ladies that will mean make-up and I can appreciate that; for others it will be the natural look and that is also fun! But frankly I think that our opinions are all besides the point. Whatever you do, you'll have some guys telling you that's great and some making a fuss. If you wear more make-up you'll no doubt then have just as many guys who criticize you for that. So don't stress about trying to turn yourself into something that will please every guy because there is no such magic formula and you'll just make yourself stressed trying. Instead, do what makes you most comfortable and happy. Whatever your style you'll attract the clients that are drawn to that style. Seems easier and happier for everyone! (As an aside, since I assume you aren't promising to the guys who ask for a discount due to no make up that you were going to wear it, I suspect they are just jerks looking to find a reason to save a buck and rip you off. If it hadn't been the make-up they probably would have found some other excuse to ask for a discount.)

I personally prefer no make-up, especially no perfumes. As for outfits, nothing beats a birthday suit! :p

Shit. Now my shirt smells funny.

I love the girl next door look... natural beauty is where it's at, for me anyway. I not a big fan of too much make-up etc.. After all, why try to improve on perfection?

I think you look great without makeup and do look like a 'sexy girl next door' casual attitude. Don't need a tidy place but do like it clean. Some guys do like makeup, maybe just for hiding a blemish to give an illusion of what they think of as 'perfect skin'. Some guys prefer lots of makeup either for a glamorous or perhaps even a slutty look. Some guys really get excited for certain outfits while other prefer naked. If don't mind the extra time to ask people what they like in advance then go for it or just do your own thing at your pleasure and surprise your visitors...my two cents

Hi Melanie, I think you are gorgeous, do you really need makeup? For me not really, maybe a little bit of lipstick and eye shadow is nice but not necessary. PS. I also like the look of the T-shirt and panties look for the summer time.

Interesting responses so far. Suppose it's time to interject my own thoughts. In my experience, it seems as though sex work gets a particularly large amount of limelight in regards to arguments about financial destitution. Perhaps this might have something to do with the fact that society has only recently started to recognize that women also have a sexuality, and that it isn't something to be shamed. Some people also seem to get hung up on the idea that a service provider is selling their body, but I don't think that's entirely fair. How boring/potentially terrifying would it be if an sp just laid there motionless rather than trying to provide a tailored experience for the client. As much as I understand that sex work isn't something to be ashamed of, I sometimes find myself getting hung up on it as well. I'm not even sure if it's societal conditioning, or perhaps even something biological like an innate male protective instinct towards women. There just so happens to be a woman advertising in my area at the moment, and she admits in her ad that she has never done this before, that she is embarrassed, and that she is only doing it to care for her children, and that capitalism is the root of all evil... Of course this could all be a clever ploy, but it's interesting to analyze the thoughts that go through my head when considering if I'd like to spend some time with her. My first thoughts are that I could just go in with no requests other than her company, and just keep my desires to myself, but this just doesn't make any rational sense when I think about it logically. If I'd only be willing to dole out 20-40$ to a homeless guy on the street, who is obviously suffering far more than a woman who still has a home and her kids, why in the world would I be so charitable just because she is a woman? It seems pretty unfair to the homeless guy. I have to admit to myself that these are all just rationalizations. The reality is that I find this woman sexually attractive, and if I did meet with her I'd end up trying to convince her that there is nothing to be embarrassed about her choice of trade, and I'd probably end up suggesting something fun that we could do together aside from friendly conversation. In other words I am full of crap, and if this woman is lying about this I am playing right into her hands. She must know that even saying words like that is going to scare people off who are reluctant to feel like they are taking advantage of someone. I don't think I could support that either way, I'd throw her 40$ if she were pan handling on the street, but charity is only charity when nothing is expected in return, not even polite conversation.

I have had wonderful experiences at ALO and CMJ and Brass Club! We are so lucky to have such great choices here in Ottawa ;)

She's back Wednesday, apts start Friday and she's here until August.

Given that this argument is rooted in ignorance, I'd suggest education is the answer. Unfortunately, this is hard to do. You can't easily force education on someone, and if you've having a debate with someone on this then it's unlikely that they're going to put a lot of time and effort into proving themselves wrong. I'd suggest that the best solution might be to point them to blogs, articles, etc written by SPs who are obviously doing what they want and enjoying themselves while they do. You could also point out that the same argument applies - and probably more so - to other jobs. I can't imagine that working in a call centre (to pick an example at random) is anyone's idea of their ideal job, but there are plenty of people doing it.

I simple request to speak to management could have easily solved your problem. One person's horrible actions should not impact evryone else's livelihood.

have you asked the manager or owner to look up the cameras of the club for you ? nuden will look up the camera, look at when she came see you , if you gave her a bill , and all the story it could have been easily resolved... no need to tarnish the club here with a warning post that they won t read, by telling them you re giving them a warning, when you're clearly NOT a simple phonecall, ask for the owner, tell the situation, he will come back to you with answers and IF the lady took your 20$, she will be gone you can be sure of that because they are honest people sorry to sound rude, but i defend my club . you state : " I could've persued it with management there but I thought if I posted the warning here for all to see and Nuden lost business because of it then Nuden management would wake up and have the problem addressed so I'm posting the warning here" that's rude, so you want us dancers to loose business too because of a simple situation that could be resolved with 2 minutes of your time? not impressed, i tought this was a positive board

I also believe guilt is a taught/learned behavior. Through generations we have been taught a long list of things we should feel guilty about and many of these things are judgements from others on how we should behave. I believe we have to honestly look at many of the things we feel guilty about and determine if it is programmed/learned or if it IS truly coming from within ourselves as a guiding point. So many people feel guilty when they "self care" yet this is one of the most important things we can do for ourselves. Life is not black or white. There are so many nuances and intricacies to it and every situation is unique to the people involved. if we approach our lives with love and respect and in doing what's best for ourselves and those involved, I feel there will be a lot less guilt and a lot more love and happiness. In regard to the aspects pertaining to this industry, there is SO much judgement and guilt flung about from so many sources. If it adds to your life, makes you happy, fulfills a need and isn't hurting anyone, why feel guilty? If someone is guilty because of someone else's opinion or judgement, the true issue is why does someone else's opinion have the ability to steal power and make them feel that way. If it's because of a relationship, where does the guilt stem from and is it because we should or shouldn't do this or that (learned behavior) or are we ignoring something we are not open and honest about looking at. Having the thought of a Universal Standard is a learned concept. It implies everyone has to fit into the box and everyone is the same when that's very far from the truth. Each and every person is unique and what bothers one, doesn't bother another. If both have the same experience and society judges that experience as negative or bad and something you should feel guilty about, if one feels guilt and the other doesn't, what does that say? It says that it's a taught/learned behavior. I think we unnecessarily suffer a LOT due to learned behaviors and limiting beliefs.. including guilt!

http://halifax.backpage.ca/FemaleEscorts/specials-c-u-m-and-play-w-me-sexiest-brown-bunny-902-704-6404/2714439 Saw this SP a lot about a year or so ago and then she disappeared. She texted me out of the blue and said she was back in town. Showed up and before I got in the building, two guys in masks with a large knife show up demanding the money. Stay away.

I've seen Anne a few times now and most recently I was her last appointment of the day around 5:30. No one was leaving this time and no double booked guy coming at same time which was a great start. Nice hug hello, quick shower where she gave me a bit of a rub down w soap before leaving me to finish. Personally I enjoy her massage, the bonus of getting my hands on that ass of hers while she's at my head is always appreciated. Flip over, solid finish that caught her a bit off guard (it had been a few days so almost got her) followed my a relaxing foot massage. Would love to have more with her as she has one of the better body's on an Asian woman I have enjoyed.