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I offer body slides in my massage sessions . I can assure that I am not asking for anything. I am delivering service , to please you as we agreed upon. Why do you think or wonder if a lady is asking for anything more? What leads you to believe this I ask with all respect ?

There fact that you raise an issue then dismiss it abruptly shows a total lack of willingness for open discussion, cohesive argumentation and maturity. If your going to poke the bear, you should be willing to stand and face the music. You make the assumptions that the ladies i choose "need the money". Not all ladies are here for the long run. Many young vibrant smart ladies engage in this line of work to better them self. To pay off school and start a career with no debt. I can only know what is communicated to me. There are MA in Ottawa, MTL and TO whose base rate are higher than average the SP. On this board, most of the ladies who do speak their voice, are not afraid to say "no" or simply state a request is an extra. This is an industry. A place of competition, of offer and demand. As with any product or service, different competitors offer different products/service at different price ranges. In your eyes, pershaps MA shouldn't offer SP service. Why should your prerogative of the services she is allowed to offer be restricted to what you deem acceptable? Why would a hybrid service be not allowed? Who are you to judge competition? There are no real written code of conducts here. Rather we rely on respect, communication and trust, especially during the first encounter. You claim my actions are the result of "male entitlement" and "rape culture". Interesting choice of words. I agree, that after the terms and conditions of a mutually agreed upon contract have been reached and that financial compensation for such service has been rendered, I feel entitled to the services and they should be delivered as mutually agreed. Again, for clarity, this whole argument lies on basis on full disclosure prior to the session where the ladies can say she is OK with it, deny the request or provide the service for an up charge. To request simply act or to assume a service is include without asking prior would be 100% wrong. As for insinuating that such action is due to a "culture of rape". I can't read a ladies mind, but I can respect her wishes. I don't see how it can be rape when a person express there interest for a service PRIOR and the ladies express her consent. Some ladies welcome reverse massage and some don't. Some offer full nude, some don't. There is an infinite range of offering, primarily based on the ladies comfort level. It is clear that we will only agree to disagree. I treat each encounter as I would in the real business world. Clearly state all my requirements, search for the vendor that offers me the best value (note I said value and not price!) and execute within the negotiated parameters of the contract.

Hoo boy. Disclaimer first - I like this club, no beefs with anyone there or the management or the servers. That was an embarrassment last night. The club made bank on it though, so no one is going to be issuing any apologies. $25 door, place was packed, Maude did a great show as usual, another girl I hadn't seen before did another headline worthy act... Christy Mack shows up, announces some shit about the government not willing to let her perform, spends the night doing a meet and greet upstairs. Laughable. And the worst part is a steady line of suckers paying whatever for a photo op. I only went for my routine stop. Glad I hadn't actually been hoping for a decent show, like feature entertainers used to do in... you can stop me now... the good old days. She had to have known ahead of time; the club had to have known ahead of time. It was a money grab.

Happened to me twice, but I must say that it was probably a honest mistake (both time) from everybody. Last time, the two providers came out of their respective rooms at the same time and the other guy and me too... When we face each other, both we back out in our respective room. I was not offended and personally found the situation a bit amusing, but my provider wasn't laughing and sincerely apology... but truly, I was out of the room before the other guy and the other provider should've seen me. Wasn't a big issue for me but I don't know how the other felt... As far as turn off, for me, I have one when I am walking in a place where I don't feel that I'm alone with the provider and secure. For example, if I go see an Indy, in a private location, and feel that there is someone else in another room. Although I understand that the provider has also her rights for protection and may feel herself more secure with a friend not too far (as long as it's not a pimp...). I also understand, if it's my 1st time with her, that she may wants to have someone else not too far, cause she doesn't know me... For that reason, I prefer to meet established Indies who are less likely to have a pimp around (from my understanding) and to be fully independents. I don't have that feeling in spas.

Well I apologize if I offended anyone. In my personal opinion, if a lady performing a body slide has her lady parts on all the way on my face and lips, i've always taken it as an invitation especially if I told her I like that. Honestly, it only backfired on me once so far. I would 100% agree with Parker and Katherine if I didn't discuss it PRIOR with the MA. The only reason I'm sticking to my guns is because if I fully disclosed it at when booking the session, why should I feel bad. There are countless posts on here where the ladies say "Guys be explicit with your intention and what you want" I do exactly that. There have been times we the lady said during the booking "no" so i wouldn't even dream of tempting my luck. If she wants to up charge me, she is most welcome to do so. But i'm not going to feel guilty if I say "I like this" during the booking and she's OK with it. For clarity, I treat all ladies with the up most respect. I've never had to push an issues in person, as I've learnt it best to be crystal clear during booking so that there is no awkward moment in person.

It's really not so much about the woman "being pleased" as it is clients trying to get more services than they're paying for (you're paying for a massage afterall, not the intimacy of a GFE companion).. We really don't get into Sex Work solely so guys can try to give us orgasms you know, lol.

Someone can totally correct me if I'm wrong, but-- I'm pretty sure that's not your typical massage service and is something you'll probably have to look to an escort or fetish provider for.

I went and saw her a couple months ago when she was in town and had no issues. I went to see her today and got ripped off. We went in and she took my money and i thought we were going to have some fun. then she said do you mind if we go back to your place. We headed out of the house and she said let me check if I have my keys. She tried to lock the door when she went back in to get her keys but i followed her in. She went into her bedroom and a guy came out of a another room and went into her bedroom also. he came out and told me i had to leave or cops would be called. I demanded my money back and told them to call the cops. I waited around for a little and no cops showed up. She took my money and i dont want this to happen to anyone else. She has adds up in a couple places. I have added one picture of her up here.

Looking for good recommendations on a massage with facesetting included. Preferably Asian.

Geez, that must've been a real drag. Wonder if she was suggesting it was a 'work visa' issue or some such thing. Apparently she was going to be in Niagara Falls, but maybe that was on the U.S. side. ( Edit: Apparently her 'appearance' the previous night was at the Sundowner, so on the Canadian side - wonder how that went.) Unfortunate development, but I guess some fans might have enjoyed seeing her up close and (not so) personal. http://www.instagram.com/p/BcVkRUZj3...ed=christymack Seems as though the same debacle occurred at the Sundowner in NF - she told audience (after showing up at 1:45) that she was unable to perform so it was probably a visa issue.

Recovering after a long, hard craft show yesterday and checking my email to see that report from the credit card gateway saying: "Square has sent you $X,XXX.XX." The comma is always good. I like the comma.

Running into the lovely Bridgette on the street yesterday, but managing to act appropriately and discreetly, despite the initial rush of enthusiasm...:)

Unfortunately I have come across one or two in my life.

lol, mirrors too! Are they a turn-off?

Hey mod. This person is a known scammer in Moncton. She has been doing this for a long time. The more we warn others about her, the better.

Ok Ive changed my mind on just one point... I cant put a price on integrity. To everyone who says, 'He won, get over it.' Are you kidding me? Do you not care about freedom and democracy? That sort of complacent attitude has been the beginning of almost every single dictatorship, totalitarian regime, oligarchy... you name it.. in history. So by that rationale, should the people of Nazi Germany just gotten over it? Or was it a good thing that some of them didn't just accept this new reality and risked their lives to help take it down? Should the people of North Korea just 'get over it'? Should we who dislike C-36 just get over it? Or should we do something to change things we feel that infringe on our rights? Should we not have a voice and start a dialogue with each other to weigh our options on how we can better our lives? Should women who have had their clits hacked off at age 7 just get over it cuz their government allows it and that's that? Or is it a good thing that they rise up and fight against it. Should I as an Anglo Quebecer just get over the fact that people can not communicate with health care professionals, police and government workers because the OLF won? Or do I have the right to stand up and say, hey this is my country and my province too and I have the right to the laws that are in place? Should Scotland have just gotten over it and allowed British soldiers to have 'first dibs' at raping their young wives before the groom can even see her after their union? I can go on and on. And you may say that I am comparing life and death matters to life in America... ok lets examine that for a moment. First of all, as I said, totalitarian regimes barely ever take over, overnight. It took the Nazis party several attempts before they had enough seats that hitler could carry out his disgusting plans. (Oh fun fact. One of the things the Nazi party did during campaigns was spread false news stories and once everyone got a little confused they then cried 'Leuten Presser' (forgive me if my German sucks) to any report that described the truth about what the Nazis were up to. Guess what that means in German; Give up? LYING PRESS! Sound familiar? Anyway back to my rant which Ill probably kick myself for but freedom is everything to me) Where was I? Ah yes... so first point in my comparing all the atrocities of history to the USA. So, point 1. that's how this shit ALWAYS starts. and 2. Comparing life & death matters to the state of the American union. Well, considering issues such as HEALTH CARE, GUN CONTROL AND THE ENVIRONMENT and the stance this sociopath has on all these issues and more, oh yes, lets not forget the military industrial complex and all the lives that costs, he backs all these things more than any of his predecessors... these ARE matters of life and death. So if you don't care about peoples freedom and you are comfortable with an Orwellian party-member like complacency of 'whatever the party in control does is fine, just get over it' I suggest that perhaps if you care so little, then allow those of us who DO care to discuss and fight it however we like. NO I WILL NOT GET OVER IT! I WILL FIGHT IT WITH EVERY SIGNLE FIBER OF MY BEING. AND I DO NOT REQUIRE YOUR PEMISSION TO DO SO and sorry but you wont succeed at dismissing me into silence. Furthermore, I find it kind of odd how any one can be comfortable saying that about a country that isn't even theirs! But be ready. It has come out from several different sources (non anonymous sources) that Russia was only testing the waters with the American election. Those who are paying attention have been warned that the same 'Fake news' tactics and efforts to divide the nation will be implemented in elections for Germany, France, England and yes CANADA. When that happens, I hope at least for your own country you wont be telling anyone to just 'get over it' if a extreme winger (either wing) comes into power and tries to undermine our democracy, gut our health care, kill our soldiers, pollute our drinking water and arrest those who protest it. I hope what I have said here, or perhaps, someone else's words will have got you thinking about a few things that really matter. I am assuming if you are on here you at least enjoy the freedom of our laws regarding this industry, less as they now are. I'm sure you enjoy other freedoms as well. I hope you will guard those freedoms against those seeking to take them from you. I hope you will guard your money from an oligarchy trying to steal it. I do not say any of this with the hope to call out or shame. I am trying to reach you and I sincerely hope that you would try to have a talk with me should I ever say anything so dangerous and so against Canadian values. And yes, please stop shaming the American people. It was the LOWEST voter turn out in US voting history, per capita. Even so, trump STILL lost the popular vote. Also, please recognize that the most popular politician in the USA is BERNIE SANDERS, who is practically an honorary Canadian when it comes to his values. And this is despite the fact that the Clintons literally financed the DNC which was broke and spent a ridiculous amount of time and money (still do) attempting to smear him. EVEN SO he remains the most popular. The average American IS a progressive. If you need proof, take a gander at the comments in trumps twitter feed. Go to youtube and watch the clip of the recent attempt at voting through the tax bill. It was constantly interrupted by constituents protesting, screaming DONT KILL ME, KILL THIS BILL. Have a look at some town hall meetings, ALLLLLL the way back in March, where republicans screamed protests against these BS policies. This election was a carefully calculated scam and the people are PISSED. By mocking Americans and blaming them for the 1% that have stolen their country from them, you are NOT helping any more than the South Koreans who shun North Koreans thinking they are all like their regime when the truth is, they are the victims of that regime. This mess in the US all started in the 70s when the supreme court literally legalized lobbyist bribery by deeming it freedom of speech. I can explain what happened but it would take forever. The point I am making, is these matters are seldom so simple. But before even going into all its complexity, ask yourself, who is happy being miserable? Obviously, even the few supporters he/they have, have been DUPED! His base is of the most simple minded people who desire simple answers to complex problems. The people in the US were/are desperate for change. They ACTUALLY voted in Obama on that promised and got sodomized for it, now they are pissed. Then they are offered Hillary, the poster girl of what is wrong in that country and why they work 3 jobs and still cant survive and in comes Trump who parrots the same things Bernie did, Medicare for all, raise the min wage to 15$ p/hour, stop the military industrial complex which turns blood into money...he promised all that and ya most of us could tell he was lying. But never underestimate the power of desperation... again, its why so many voted in the Nazi party. They were willing to try anything out that said they would save them. I really hope I have given some of you something to think about. In order to understand a situation you first need to get the full facts and then you have to find out what other facts led to those facts and only then will you begin to get an idea of what the hell happened there. But what wont help is dismissing and assuming and blaming without seeking anything beyond simplicity. That's the mistake of the trump supporter and yet you mock them for it. And again, saying get over it, if that's all you have to contribute, you may want to re-examine the value of your contribution. Clearly, within seconds I went from self-preservation to standing up for what I feel is right and risking it all. If I lose any of my wonderful clients because of my words here, it will crush me, but as I said, I cant put a price on my integrity and if I can reach just one person, it will be worth any cost. America needs our help, not our judgement or our complacency. And for those who may mock my appearance of hypocrisy, by calling out those telling a country that isn't their own to get over it... I like to remain as unidentifiable as possible on here but lets just say, theres a good reason I care so much. If you don't, that's cool, it isn't your country (though you may want to examine the fact that that country's well-being and prosperity has a lot to do with our own), but please do not try to tell those of us who do care, not to and to just give up and/or blame the bottom 99% of the country for the crimes and scams of the top 1%. If you read this far, I thank you for your attention. If I offended anybody, it was not my intention, please chalk it up to my passion for freedom, it is not personal. My sole hope here is to reach out and exchange some of my ideas for the ones Ive been offered here. That's the point of a dialogue and freedom of speech is the first step in freedom, shutting it down is the first step toward tyranny. Have a good day everyone! Sending each and every one of you love Sincerely, JessyCeleste Concerned SP. (LOL)

We're all aware of that. You've made your point. It's probably safe to let it go now. Really.

It's an e-transfer scam. Seems to be lots of those around lately.

Tiffany is a local lady:) She is also here on lyla. I work with her, and she is very professional and kind. And well...preety as a peach!

I as well enjoy an early morning walk, I work from home and am usually up at 530, which gives me an early start on the day. I can get plenty accomplished in the first hour and then a nice walk. By 7:30 I am ready for a nice breakfast and ready to get on with the day. Very Good Idea Parker

I was reading this thread to get insights about what are clients' expectations of a good service, but now it has turned into a body shaming fest? This is low. Very low.

I've been seeing SP's for a quarter of a century. I think we can call it, experience.

Well... depends how much texting. SPs do have safety protocols and if it's just a quick "client arrived, not obviously a nut-job" text, then I'm OK with it (and a similar one at the end). Anything beyond that... no. Unacceptable.