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In the past I have had members here contact me telling me that a lady on this site scammed them in this way. I have confronted the ladies (and banned a number of them because of this) but I have had at least 4 ladies over the years that I can recall that I took their side after confronting them. In two cases it was because the guy was intoxicated and not acting stable. One was because the guy smelled very bad even at a distance and one said the guy was demanding things she was not willing to do. In all cases the guys felt ripped off (and in fairness they were! The ladies should have given back the money and asked them to leave and in the cases of the intoxicated guys maybe give back a portion on the money and kept some for wasting the ladies time showing up drunk). The guys either try to post bad things here to discredit the ladies (Usually sign up on the site specifically to warn others about them) or they pm'd me to complain trying to get the ladies banned from the site or trying to convince me to let them post to warn others. My point, it's not always a scam. It is almost always a scam but not 100% and I will ALWAYS listed to what the lady has to say if she wants to share her side of the story. Guys are not always the best behaved when it comes to this business, most are gentlemen but some are the very opposite and sometimes running away is the best choice... just something to think about.

There fact that you raise an issue then dismiss it abruptly shows a total lack of willingness for open discussion, cohesive argumentation and maturity. If your going to poke the bear, you should be willing to stand and face the music. You make the assumptions that the ladies i choose "need the money". Not all ladies are here for the long run. Many young vibrant smart ladies engage in this line of work to better them self. To pay off school and start a career with no debt. I can only know what is communicated to me. There are MA in Ottawa, MTL and TO whose base rate are higher than average the SP. On this board, most of the ladies who do speak their voice, are not afraid to say "no" or simply state a request is an extra. This is an industry. A place of competition, of offer and demand. As with any product or service, different competitors offer different products/service at different price ranges. In your eyes, pershaps MA shouldn't offer SP service. Why should your prerogative of the services she is allowed to offer be restricted to what you deem acceptable? Why would a hybrid service be not allowed? Who are you to judge competition? There are no real written code of conducts here. Rather we rely on respect, communication and trust, especially during the first encounter. You claim my actions are the result of "male entitlement" and "rape culture". Interesting choice of words. I agree, that after the terms and conditions of a mutually agreed upon contract have been reached and that financial compensation for such service has been rendered, I feel entitled to the services and they should be delivered as mutually agreed. Again, for clarity, this whole argument lies on basis on full disclosure prior to the session where the ladies can say she is OK with it, deny the request or provide the service for an up charge. To request simply act or to assume a service is include without asking prior would be 100% wrong. As for insinuating that such action is due to a "culture of rape". I can't read a ladies mind, but I can respect her wishes. I don't see how it can be rape when a person express there interest for a service PRIOR and the ladies express her consent. Some ladies welcome reverse massage and some don't. Some offer full nude, some don't. There is an infinite range of offering, primarily based on the ladies comfort level. It is clear that we will only agree to disagree. I treat each encounter as I would in the real business world. Clearly state all my requirements, search for the vendor that offers me the best value (note I said value and not price!) and execute within the negotiated parameters of the contract.

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I understand the comparison between SP and MA. Some MAs advertise full service right in their ads and some offer everything but FS in their ads yet still offer it behind closed doors without it being suggested by a client. This thread seems more complex than it actually is, perhaps a few SPs are just not content with the fact they feel some or all of "their services" are now also being offered by MAs. True that some MAs wish to only offer what was once the norm but this has changed for a vast majority and why for any type of Provider parameters need to be clearly stated/defined and respected for a pleasant experience to be had by both parties involved. Like it or not this is simply evolution in the MPA world, nothing more. So a Punter posting a thread asking for any MAs who offer facesitting is no longer a "way out in left field" subject. Comparing a SC Dancer to an MA, now we're getting a little far fetched IMO. That being said, some (quite a few) would be surprised what is offered by Dancers and why there too parameters need to be clearly defined for both to be respected and enjoyed. Entitlement: Why are a few SPs telling clients what they should and shouldn't expect from a MA and now tossing around non comparable scenarios with a Dancer? It would appear to me the only ones judging anyone on this thread are SPs judging clients and attempting to represent and/or speak on behalf of MAs. MAs have a voice of their own. They are just as informed, intelligent and well spoken as anyone else. This unnecessary discussion need not continue IMO. Cheers,

"Backfired on you" like you didn't bother to obtain her consent first? When you go to the stripclub and get a private dance, do you also assume that you can put your mouth on her genitals because she has it at 2 inches of your face and that you have previously told her that you like to lick pussy? Does the fact that you have stated your preferences makes you entitled to them? You do realize that you just self-admitted to have committed a sexual assault, right?

A fresh face, Jordan was on stage when I arrived and she was the only girl for me, East Indian appearance, TOTALLY bangin' body, huge naturals, not a spinner but not curvy,big brown eyes, shiny black hair...unf ! Some of my recent faves... Gabriella, sweet petite mulatto, awesome lap dance. Arianna, spinner, fucking incredible looks, not stuck up, even the dancers drool over her,has long hair now Felicia, Love this girl, she looks like Kim K. only better, charming personality.. There are several more, long live Barbarella's !

Tiffany is a local lady:) She is also here on lyla. I work with her, and she is very professional and kind. And well...preety as a peach!

I was lucky enough to connect with Sasha May (aka Princ3ss) recently and we enjoyed a fantastic time together. Sasha May is lovely, sensual lady who knows how to make a fellow feel really special. She let me know that she was going to be in town for a short visit and we connected via PM and set a date about 2 weeks earlier. When I met her my jaw dropped - drop dead gorgeous, warm, enticing smile, long flowing dark hair and a magnificent figure wearing a beautiful black skimpy outfit (probably a negligee but I truly don't remember as we were focused on other things) Sasha May knows how to kiss - OMG does she ever ! I'll keep the details about the remainder of the very enjoyable engagement to myself - but suffice to say it was an amazing time. Sasha May says she'll try to make a few more trips to our fair city and I'd advise anyone planning to meet her to book early so you won't be disappointed. Sasha May is a real gem guys - please treat her well !

Area code is for the Greater Vancouver area, and it would appear that this individual is coming to Ottawa for the first time. Searching all the photos and phone number on Google comes up empty with no previous ads or matches of photos. So you potentially have a new provider using new photos, a new cell phone number and advertizing for the first time. If this is the case, I don't understand why this individual would not mention anything about her past experience as a SP, any reviews that may exist and some proof she is who she says she is; all to provide some level of assurance to the client. The idea of posting a selfie showing the date, location and phone number is one all new professionals should consider doing, given that they clearly do not have a searchable track record and because of this, the risk of a B&S situation occurring is clearly greater than with a proven SP, who does have a track record of satisfied clients and positive reviews. All this to say, this SP may truly live up to her nickname, but I would not want to walk blindly into such a situation, based on the limited amount of information she has provided. The only ways to limit the success of B&S tactics for disreputable SPs is for clients to: 1. Do their homework and due diligence before deciding to see someone., 2. Use their big head, yes that big lump that sits on their shoulders and not the little shrivelled one between their legs., and 3. Walk away without paying if the person in front of them is clearly not who she was advertized to be, or indicates early that she will not provide services agreed to.

This may sound a little strange, but would it make sense for people posting services on BP to include a picture of them that features the current edition of the newspaper from the city in which they are located? This would take an extra 5 minutes, but think of how many potential issues this one simple act would instantly put to rest (i.e. authenticity of photos, age of photos, actual location, etc.).

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You were the one saying "she was asking for it", no? That sort of attitude isn't worth a discussion, no matter how justified you think you are.. These women aren't just holes for you to fill, they're actual people.

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Well I apologize if I offended anyone. In my personal opinion, if a lady performing a body slide has her lady parts on all the way on my face and lips, i've always taken it as an invitation especially if I told her I like that. Honestly, it only backfired on me once so far. I would 100% agree with Parker and Katherine if I didn't discuss it PRIOR with the MA. The only reason I'm sticking to my guns is because if I fully disclosed it at when booking the session, why should I feel bad. There are countless posts on here where the ladies say "Guys be explicit with your intention and what you want" I do exactly that. There have been times we the lady said during the booking "no" so i wouldn't even dream of tempting my luck. If she wants to up charge me, she is most welcome to do so. But i'm not going to feel guilty if I say "I like this" during the booking and she's OK with it. For clarity, I treat all ladies with the up most respect. I've never had to push an issues in person, as I've learnt it best to be crystal clear during booking so that there is no awkward moment in person.

I offer body slides in my massage sessions . I can assure that I am not asking for anything. I am delivering service , to please you as we agreed upon. Why do you think or wonder if a lady is asking for anything more? What leads you to believe this I ask with all respect ?

Hot Training duo with Lilith and Veronica at Brass Club The Brass Club, CMJ and other clubs often have training duos with a new and a seasoned massage professional at reduced rates. On top of that the actual training is hands on so it does not in any way take away from the overall experience. Finally you get a chance to be with someone new who few others have seen. Jessica, at the Brass Club, has impeccable taste and chooses beautiful and charming women, who from my limited experience are naturals to this sensual profession and who learn the ropes very quickly. The Brass Club is centrally located, discrete, welcoming and very comfortable. I met Lilith and Veronica at the reception and they both greeted me with warm and welcoming smiles. Off to the well appointed room with a modern shower and double massage table generous enough for three. After some brief chit-chat to break the ice we jumped into the steamy shower where I experienced a sandwich I had not had the luck to try before. No calories with exceptional satisfaction guaranteed! Lilith has been at the BC for over a year and has had much success with the gentlemen. She is a tight, voluptuous fireball with curly dark hair and a beautiful face. Veronica is more of a fit spinner physique with beautiful dark sleek hair, sparkly eyes and sensual mouth. Once she warms up there is nothing to stop her. On the table for a very thorough four handed massage to wring out some of my many knots. As time moved on, the massage was more slow and sensual with constant visual stimulation from the nearby mirror and a chance to explore many of the dangerous curves of Lilith and Veronica (within MP limits). The two women complemented each other perfectly with seamless caresses as they simultaneously applied their many gifts and talents. With the flip my neurons went into overdrive trying to keep up with the increasingly insistent and sensual touch of these two beautiful ladies and their combined skills. They were both very generous with their warm lips and passionate slides. Would I repeat you ask? You know damn right! Lilith: http://www.brassclub.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/GW051454-2.jpg

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It's an e-transfer scam. Seems to be lots of those around lately.

I suggest to share your experience with the MODS and they will advice you on posting it here in this section. I hope your ok and will be able to move forward peacefully! Good luck!

We will be closing down the survey portion of the Street-to-Screen project on the 15th of August. At that time we will begin the vital, but time consuming, process of transcribing and sorting through the 100s of hours of interviews and analyzing the wealth of survey responses about the diverse ways that Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs) influence how people involved in the sale and purchase of sexual services develop connections, exchange information, and negotiate the details of the sex for money exchange. Our first use of this information will be to prepare a detailed report for the Department of Justice Canada as an addendum to our participation at the round table inquiry on Former Bill C-36 that was held in Vancouver on 24 March 2017. Beyond this, we will be producing policy reports, academic analyses, and media statements that adequately represent the full range of the contributions and experiences of the people who have taken the time and opportunity to speak out through this project. We would like to take this opportunity to thank the many service providers/escorts/sex workers and clients who are members of this community who have provided such positive feedback and support for the research over the past year. Thanks to your contributions this project will represent a large number of voices and experiences of people involved in the sale and purchase of the sexual services. These numbers make a difference, particularly for policy makers, legislators and judiciary that place a high value on evidence for the development of policy and in making determinations about the constitutionality of law. For those of you who still wish to make your contribution to this important and one of a kind project, it is not too late. The online survey will remain accessible until the 15th of August https://www.street-to-screen.ca.

Hey there xcb930! I gladly see couples of any and all genders as well! Happy searching :)

Hi everyone! I just wanted to introduce myself as I'm new to this. I'm Lilith and I'm a queer fat femme lady with a sex positive outlook on life and a taste for adventure! I look forward to making meaningful connections :) xo

1. EC. And this one. And PERB. 2. Depends who you ask. 3. Depends what you are into. The most recommended locals are generally mature women (just read through threads, or do a search of a name you've found). If you want someone younger and you're new, try a well-recommended traveller, generally from Korea, China, or Quebec who is in town for around ten days. A word to the wise. There are two reasons to use this site. One is to find "the best" SP for you so you have a great experience, but even more importantly, it is to avoid a truly terrible experience: not merely lackluster service, but anything from flakes and no-shows to scams and violence, robbery armed and otherwise, and potential involvement with LE. There's a shark in the water, and next to it crocodile, and along the bank, a tiger. So, with that in mind, a broad tip: do not answer any ad on BP unless you have found recommendations from someone trustworthy (there are ways here of gauging that) and/or checking pics on TinEye and/or searching for matches of phone numbers. While there may be legitimate reasons why someone keeps changing their name, or why multiple SPs may be sharing a number, it can also be a red flag.

Its been many years since I have had a real date. A real day to spoil a lady. I love to spoil and I love to give. I would love to spend the day with a lady. Pick her up nice and early and take her to breakfast, then off to show her my farm and take her for a ride on my tractor. show her my pond, my wild flowers, my windmill and my bees. Then take her to lunch and then take her shopping. Spoil her rotten like she has never been spoiled before. Then supper and then back to a room for desert. Give her a nice foot massage and full body massage and then perhaps make love not sex. Sex sucks its necessary but sure does not hold a candle to making love. Now I am no fool and know it would be fake but for that moment it would be like I had a real girl friend/lover. And omg to fall asleep with her in my arms would be a perfect ending to a very nice day

I "think" I know what you are asking Pandabear2018. Although from past experience, I'm sure the Cerbies will be quick to correct me if I am wrong :) For a new comer I understand How its hard to see the diffrence these days.. Besides the math part of the equation which has been very well laid out by the multiple responses in this thread, let us not forget that there is some useful information about M/A's and S/P's in a previous thread..Here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=156693 And If your wondering about Extras that come witha sensual massage some options may include: Nuru- A delectable jelly like water based gel used for some amazing bodyslides, if you have not tried it in your hobbing so far it is an experience you won't want to miss out on!! You can read about the ladies including myself that offer Nuru Here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152296 Other extra's might possibly include: An erotic strip tease/ lap dance in the privacy of your home ( independant M/A) or before / after/ during your sensual massage episode at the spa. A private pole dance at a spa that has a room with the right accomadations ;) These are just 2 examples of extra's that do not typically cost money, but add a little extra somethin' somethin' to your experience :) Extra's with M/A should not be of addtional costs to you.. Although, should you feel that she / he did an incredible job at making you feel your absolute best, as with any service industry, additional tipping is at your descretion and a huge compliment!! :) Please feel free to add to my list the help this fine gentleman out with his inquiry, ..it could be fun!! Cheers :)

Common adult industry sex terms, abbreviations, codes, codewords, terminology, acronyms, lingo, and glossary. What does this mean, what is the definition of, as defined in the dictionary, and what do the letters stand for: AAMP = Apartment Asian Massage Parlor. Based in a residential apartment instead of a commercial storefront. ABC = american born chinese ABJ = american born japanese Agency = a company that manages calls, bookings, and advertising for a group of escorts. AMP = Asian Massage Parlor analingus = licking anus Asian = analingus Asian Cowgirl = girl on top, squatting ASP = Adult Service Provider, or alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup ATF = all time favorite ATM = ass to mouth = penis, toy, finger goes from ass to mouth. attempts = trying to orgasm Aunt Flo = menstruation, period B&S = bait and switch = person who shows up is a different one than advertised babyback = petite, young, attractive Asian balloons = breast implants BB = bareback = without condom BJ = blowjob = oral sex = fellatio BBBJ = bare back blow job = BJ without condom BBBJTC = bare back blow job to completion (in mouth) BBBJTCIM = bare back blow job to completion in mouth BBBJTCNQNS = bare back blow job to completion, no quit, no spit BBBJTCWS = bare back blow job to completion with swallow BBBJWF = bare back blow job with facial BBFS = bare back sex BBW = big beautiful woman BCD = behind closed doors BDSM = bondage, discipline, sado-masochism. BF = boy friend BFE = boy friend experience birdwatching = BBBJTCWS BLS = ball licking and sucking Blue Jay = blow job blue pill = Viagra BSB = bus stop babe butter face = everything looks good, but her face BTW = by the way cash and dash = ROB who takes your money and runs CBJ = covered blow job = BJ with condom CC Rider = full service provider costing $200 or less CD = cross dresser CDS = covered doggy style CFS = covered full service = Sex with condom CG = cowgirl = girl on top facing you CH = Crazy Horse, SF Strip Club CIM = cum in mouth CL = craigslist.org CMD = carpet matches drapes, typically a natural blonde CMT = Certified Massage Therapist. A professional masseuse. Cowgirl = CG = girl on top facing you cover = condom cruising = driving around, looking for streetwalkers cups of coffee = releases = orgasms DATO = dining at the o = analingus DATY = dining at the y = cunnilingus DDP = double digit penetration, kitty and anus Dodge = streetwalker stroll: Mission Blvd, between A St and 14th St, in Hayward, CA Doggie = man behind girl, girl on hands and knees donation = payment Doubles = A threesome with two girls and you DDE = doesn't do extras (PS only) DDG = drop dead gorgeous DFK = deep french kissing, open mouth with tongue DIY = do it yourself (masturbation) DP = double penetration, two guys on one girl DT = deep throat, entire length of penis taken in mouth ECR = el camino real EOM = end of message. No text in message body. escort = a temporary companion for hire facial = cumming on partner's face FBSM = full body sensual massage fire and ice = a blowjob switching between hot tea and ice FIV = finger in vagina FKK = Frei K?rper Kultur. German brothel / nudist club. FOB = fresh off the boat. Asian immigrant recently arrived in the US. FOV = finger outside vagina French = BJ French Kiss = Kissing with tongue insertion FS = full service = BJ + Sex Get Brain = blow job Get Comfortable = get completely naked GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG GG = Golden Gypsy. defunct, famous Berkeley massage parlor GND = girl next door Greek = anal sex, back door GS = golden shower = urination play GSM = g-spot massage happy ending = A handjob (usually) or blowjob after your massage hardwood floors = clean shaven kitty Hat = condom HDH = high dollar hottie HJ = hand job = a manual / hand release HH = half hour HM = high mileage HME = honeymoon experience, lapdog heaven HWP = height and weight proportionate hooker = prostitute IMHO = in my humble opinion interpreter = condom Italian = penis rubbing between butt cheeks ISO = in search of kitty = vagina Lapdog = person who worships providers to excess. LDL = low dollar looker (opposite of HDH) LE = ellie = law enforcement LK = light kissing, closed mouth LOS = land of smiles = Thailand mamasan = female manager of a massage parlor MBOT = Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre, SF Strip Club MBR = multiple bell ringing = MSOG MILF = mom I'd like to f-ck Mish = missionary position, or the SF Mission District Missionary = man on top, girl on back mohawk = thin rectangular strip of pubic hair MP = massage parlor MP = multiple pops = multiple releases MSC = Market Street Cinema, SF Strip Club MSOG = multiple shots on goal = multiple releases NCT = New Century Theatre, SF Strip Club non-pro = not a professional provider NP = no problem NSA = no strings attached OWO = oral without condom OWOTC = oral without condom to completion papasan = male manager of a massage parlor party hat = condom PIV = penis in vagina PL = Pathetic Loser PO = phone operator (for making appointments) PS = private show (Dance) PSE = Porn Star Experience PV = private viewing (Dance) RA = relaxation assistant raincoat = condom RB = myredbook.com rimming = analingus RMP = Russian Massage Parlor ROB = Rip Off Bitch Reverse cowgirl = RCG = girl on top facing away Reverse massage = you massage her Roman shower = vomit play RPG = role playing games Russian = penis rubbing between breasts = Pearl Necklace = titty fuck SC = Strip Club self-service = you masturbate SF = San Francisco shill = an insider posing as a satisfied customer SO = significant other SOG = shot on goal = one release SOMF = sat on my face south of the border = gential region southern france = BBBJ SP = Service Provider SPA = streetwalker stroll: San Pablo Avenue in Oakland, CA spanish = ATM = ass to mouth spinner = very petite, thin girl STD = sexually transmitted disease stroll = path frequented by street walkers SW = street walker TAMP = Therapeutic Asian Massage Parlor teabag = man squats and dips balls in partner's mouth TG = transgender TGTBT = too good to be true Tina = crystal meth TJ = Tijuana TL = Tenderloin district, San Francisco. between Van Ness Ave, Post St, Taylor St, and Golden Gate Ave TLD = topless lap dance tossing salad = analingus Troll = rude and hideous PL Trolling = Posting thinly disguised ads in a discussion forum TOFTT = Take one for the team. In reference to a new, non-reviewed provider. TS = transexual TUMA = tongue up my ass TV = transvestite UTF = Untranslated French = BBBJ UTR = under the radar WTF = What the fuck? (I'm rather surprised by this) XOXO = Kisses & Hugs YMMV = Your mileage may vary. Your service level could be different than reported by others. Applies to everyone, some more so than others. 1/2 and 1/2 = half and half = oral sex + full service 411 = seeking information 420 = 4:20 = marijuana 69 = two people giving each other oral sex at the same time $ = $100 $$ = $200 $$$ = $300 $$$.5 = $350 (get it?) incall = You go to her place, or a place she designates. outcall = She comes to your place, home, hotel room. two call system = For incall locations. Your first call is to set up the time and get the general directions on where to park. Your second call is made when you arrive to get the specific address / room number.

I had to remove a thread tonight and I am very upset that people are posting crap like this. Some idiot PM'd one of the members claiming that one of the local girls has aids. The member posted this along with other nonsense. Why he felt it was necessary to start a thread like this I will never know but I am done with people trying to slander other peoples reputations. If your too stupid to realize a PM or POST like this is just slanderous and made by either a jealous competitor, ex-boyfriend or drunken idiot trying to cause a problems then let me help you out by telling you first hand that you should just delete the PM and report the user name to me so we can get rid of the trolls! If you feel the need to accuse someone of such a thing publicly do it elsewhere as I don't care to slander anyone on this site and as long as I am moderator of this site I will NOT tolerate it from anyone else here! I will shut down the board before I allow that to happen so if you enjoy the site please respect this policy and rule.