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for most women I usually give them a massage right after they give me a flip. Surprise to find out that most women don't get massages from the guy. Don't undertand why not. Gives you a chance to touch her body in intimate ways. Sometimes sneaking in a few kisses. They appreciate my massages and say I give very good ones. Most men don't give them a real massage. But after giving them a good massage, they return the favour by giving me very nice massage, bodyslides and long teasing finish. They tend to remember you better if you have given them pleasure also.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was attempted a few times without much success. There probably more than a few who do this privately from home. But as a legal business, finding a location that will allow it can be tricky. And even with that part done, sustaining a regular clientele is not that easy once the novelty is gone. The reality is that few men like to pay over $30 for a hair cut. A young woman who shows a little cleavage can be as effective without the nudity. I'm maybe in the minority but that's the way I see it.

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Fresh new pictures are always welcomed, but we already kind of seen your face on a black and white picture. As for your decision, it's up to you to decide if you're ready to give up your anonymity. If your surrounding and mostly yourself are ready to make the leap, you're the one who should know.

After a way too long absence I finally got to see my fave massage babe Gina. She did not disappoint, to my amazement she still had a candle I had given her a while back burning in the massage room. My whole body is thanking me for getting back to see her, hands down the best to me. It is true she is leaving for good in a month or two so don't dawdle if you want to see her. Check her reco thread for more info.

I am a firm believer the good bye kiss and hug is the icing on the cake as the saying goes. If there is a connection and intimacy with the provider during the season there will be a steamy and very hot kisses and hugs leaving both of you wanting more. If you and the provider have seeing each other a number of times than this also sets the stage for the next session. So it is very important me to have a toe curling kiss and hug at the end of a session...

Great thread. I have often wondered along similar lines. I already offer a bubble bath and massage . Those who like it like it a lot. Would gentleman be interested in a half day of pampering ? As Boomer said a manicure, pedicure , massage and ending in the full Sha-Bamm. :) Its fun to open new doors.

Personally I like face pics. Puts me at ease. But I would say you are established and a very reputable SP so I am not sure you need them.

Offered as an additional service I am sure would work. Quite a few years ago there was a very popular MA called Erica, who had a barbers chair set up in one room and a massage table in another, and on occasion I would enjoy a trim or pedicure, and sometimes a massage. She was missed when she moved on.

I have never seen this Jasmine, so I have no personal experience with her, either positive or negative. However, I don't think your comment is fair. First of all, she says she's 44 in her k board ad. That makes her way older than Jasmine of Jasmine's Spa. Second, she posted 10 ads on BP on March 7. All of them contain several photos showing her face. She's obviously not Jasmine of Jasmine's Spa, and couldn't possibly get away with claiming or even implying she is.

When I first started out in this hobby in 2011. I used the following method to find a SP: I try to stick with ladies from my own age group +/- 10 years; Non-smoker; Non or social drinker; Drug free; etc... etc... 1. I do as much reading as I can about the ladies. This includes their ads, posts, blogs, and website. 2. While doing all that reading I take notes of the ladies that caught my attention. 3. Here comes the hard part. Shortening that list of possibilities down to 2, or 3 ladies max. 4. Then I try to setup a 2 hour social date with each lady. Just to see if there is chemistry and a connection. 5. Now that I have met each lady. Comes another hard part -- Shortening that list down to one special lady. 6. Once that I have found that one special lady. I will arrange to see her for two or three hour dates, once or possibly twice each month. On a long term basis. I use this method because I prefer hosting in my own home.

I certainly enjoy the company of a simple natural beauty. The extreme use of makeup, Photoshop and surgery only creates an illusion. It may help providing inspiration for "self service", but in person it's often as bad as a fake picture. It works for the modeling and entertaining industry, but elsewhere not that much. Well, not for me.

I found this on the other board and found it interesting http://izismile.com/2013/03/08/porn_stars_before_and_after_their_makeup_makeover_93_pics.html

Kissing, hugs and cuddling are the most important part of a session with a provider. This is where the intimacy and connection between the two people is nurtured and developed. For me if a session has a great deal of kissing, hugs, and cuddling and both of you feel they could stay in bed all day and continue than it will be a amazing session. By the way there are Ladies here that a client could spend a entire day laying in bed with and just kissing and cuddling...

just wanted to bump this thread up again. I like to see more women with no makeup on. Like to see the real person.

I enjoy being with one who allows role reversal during a bodyslide massage. Gives more for the money in term of massage, chemistry and intimacy.

Recently I have started seeing more older women. Find it easier to communicate with them. They have experience and are free to experience their full sexuality. They know what to do and want to enjoy the experience themselves.

On my latest threesome, one of the fine lady said to me "WOW!! You have got magical lips". That is a fine compliment to get when you are making 2 sexy ladies happy !

Linus? Is that you?

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I booked another date in Ottawa with 2 lovely ladies(duo) Jessy Celeste and Vicky Lopez for tomorrow. Can't wait to see you ladies again, we are going to have so much fun !

Wow. The nerve. It sounds like it's just plain dumb-ass (bare-ass?) luck you've still got your kilt. My condolences!

Each club got a surprise bill of $7,500 to have an entertainment license to operate in Ottawa for 2018 with hints it may be higher in 2019. That is a jump from the $2,500 paid in 2017 . A 200% increase with no warning. That is a flat fee...regardless of seating or size. I am not a strip club owner, but I am a business man and to have a bill of that size come in to just operate would sting. Let alone the other hurdles of being in business as a strip club that many of us do not realize. Like most fees, these get past down to the paying customer. $5 CR charge, .50 cent hike in drinks, $1 increase in door fee. Whatever the case, people will bitch about it. The Fax...I am unsure if its $7,500 flat or $7,500 x 2 as I believe upstairs is a separate license when they put in the stairs in the middle. The owner at the Mate said he needed a license for the Mate and the other for Suite 300.....$15,000.00 license fee. Compound this with increase in minimum wages. In either case, I enjoy going to SC's. I generally go with "x" amount in my pocket. I budget "x" amount for dances, the rest on drinks and anywhere else, the $5 is in that now....big deal....if I whine about $5 I should not be going to a SC. Maybe it is a bad and sour taste to have an extra fee, but to be honest, raising drink prices would be worse and I am not sure how an increase in door fee be taken. Enjoy the clubs guys. Have some drinks, enjoy the scenery and have fun.

You don't have to cruise Backpage, Luxe. Bobbi provided three separate links to Shawna's ads. All you have to do is click on one. In any case, your diligent refusal to answer the question has probably given most readers all the answers they need. Additional Comments: I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm inclined to agree with WhereIRoam: pics of someone else are false advertising. Personally, I'd rather have no pics at all. Still, the industry is rife with stolen images, so I can only assume that it isn't a deal-breaker for everyone :) Ultimately it's up to every client to decide what they care about, and every provider to decide what information they want to put out there. I don't see that knowing someone's pics aren't of them is a bad thing if it helps the people who care about this make well-informed decisions.

With all due respect, please don't presume anything about me in order to attempt to gain the upper hand. I'm not the type that looks for deals or ever attempts to negotiate on rates. Does the topic of stolen pics touch a nerve? Yes, ads that use stolen pics touches a nerve with me. I consider it false advertising. I understand she is an acquaintance of yours and you are defending/standing up for her. This is very admirable of you, a sign of someone who cares and makes you a good friend to have. In the future, please refrain from personal attacks/slander type statements. You should be above/better than this. Cheers,

Keep in mind the pics are not real and the stated age is lower than reality. This is par for the course for this place but does not mean the girls are not worth seeing. I have posted some things on her if you do a search, I like her a lot and have seen her 3 times so far this trip. Like most of the girls at this place she is a mature provider but maybe a bit younger than most, I would guess late 30s/early40s. Pretty IMO with nice features and a real need to please attitude. Good skills. The more you see her the better it gets, same as most. I asked how long she will remain in Kingston but didn't get a solid answer. I would not dawdle as she has been here almost a month and that is usually around the time they rotate. Additional Comments: Forgot i did this reco in 2016, still applies. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=A&t=244324

Spoke with Lacey. She says that Felina has exited the business and is pursuing other interests. She is fine otherwise but does not wish to be contacted as she has moved on. I asked Lacey to send her my best wishes and left it at that.

I had baked pork chops smothered in cream of mushroom sauce and lots of steamed broccoli

YMMV means that certain aspects of the encounter are up in the air until a provider meets the client. It can certainly apply to specific services when taking into account oral hygiene, overall hygiene etc. Poor dental care rules out kissing, dfk and *** for me. There are several other activities that I will not consent to until I meet someone. I've always said that there isn't a game I don't like to play, just people I won't play them with. I won't know whether or not they are a worthy play partner until I meet them so YMMV is always a factor. It's why I refuse to engage in menu type discussions prior to a visit. If all the boxes are checked in terms of hygiene and the chemistry is there, an intense session could very well happen depending on an SP's head space. If she's genuinely professional, you will have an intense session regardless of her mental focus or even if she doesn't like you. This is a job and "liking" isn't a prerequisite for doing it well. smiles, cat

OK, OK!! I will start a hair growing campaign so you guys can be happy. By spring, hair to my knees ! :)

For all those that have seen Gina, she will be leaving to visit her homeland in mid-January for about 6 weeks. Once she returns to Ottawa she'll be here for a short time before she relocates to another fine Canadian city. For those that have seen her before you know what we'll be missing; for those that have not seen her before, your time is limited. Best massage (RMT quality) available in Ottawa.. you don't have to tell her where your aching spots are, she'll find them all by herself. She will definitely be missed, just a very lovely lady.

Any other opinions on this topic? Kissing and cuddling are very important to me in a session. It makes the difference between a great session and a good session?

There is some stress involved in leading a double life. On the other hand there is an excitement about leading a double life as well. With the calls and secret arrangements, sometimes I feel like I'm a secret agent... I've been seeing this lady recently at hotels in Toronto, which I just rent for the purpose of seeing her. We check in, have fun, the leave a couple hours later. I come back the next morning to pick up some stuff from the room and check out. I have to remember to pay for the hotel in cash so that there is no record of the transaction (not one my wife will see anyway). One hotel when I was checking in, asked me for the lady's name, so I gave her a fictitious names that implied she was married to me. But another time when the lady was with me when I was checking in, they didn't ask her for her name or ID... I try to time my assignations on days when I know my wife is working evening so she doesn't even know that I've been out late. Also I have to keep track of what I say to my wife about what I'm doing or when I'm coming home. It can be stressful at times, but I'm enjoying it too much to even think about stopping..

Although I have cut down on hobbying, I have to say that when I first started I was seeing a lot of the younger SP's & MA's. but over the years, I find it more comfy with the 30+ women. They have more experience, most are not rushed, and most are clean (meaning no drug or drinking habits).

Great Question. I have met people here on Cerb that I consider real friends as well. For example in Ottawa and a few cities I tour into I am fortunate enough to have an offer to be picked up at the airport and I never feel stuck in any city I frequent . If I were in real need I have friends I can contact. That is a gift I treasure. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for being there. One other thing I really appreciate prior to a first date is a proper letter of introduction. I enjoy getting to know people to the level they are comfortable. I am a talker and love visiting so when I get that nice first letter I know its going to go well and I really look forward to opening my door to that person. For me connection is first and that means getting to know each other, I find chemistry naturally follows that.