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I've never published a phone number. I've always used email for contact then once I've met a guest and we've developed a mutual trust, I give him my number. The frustration resulting from choosing to deal with the underbelly of the industry is understandable. What I think needs to be pointed out is a telephone number is in no way indicative of a providers legitimacy. Paid apps have ensured this as providers well know from the struggle of trying to verify legitimate clients. Some tips that help in sorting out legitimate providers are... 1. Only use providers who have a website. Obviously they are legitimate if they've invested the time and money to create a source of information specifically for clients. 2. Google the provider in question. If nothing comes up, pretty good chance it's not real. 3. Tin eye the pictures. It will clearly indicate whether or not the pictures are in fact her. 4. Support the legitimate platforms that have a trusted history. Ads on platforms like Escorts Canada and Lyla dwindled because clients flocked to sites that allowed scam providers to flourish. 5. Be willing to do your research when choosing a provider. It really isn't that hard... smiles, cat

Hold up.. Sorry to threadjack here, but your comments on "these girls" are a little uncalled for.. If a guy friend/boyfriend/spouse is ok with us escorting, he doesn't care about us? You can't be serious.. This just shows the lack of respect you have for the women you claim to support here Are escorts actually expected to be loners, with no spouses or partners outside of the industry? Many sw do actually have partners, and are even married, with healthy, non exploitative relationships.. What about friends? Should we not have friends either because some are users and it's hard to choose who really has our best intentions in mind? I get that this situation with Kiarah is noteworthy and warrants discussion to help keep you safe, but to throw all sp under the bus as silly women with low self esteems, dating shitty people because they think they can't do better, is EXACTLY the mindset that went into the laws that now criminalize our clients.. Yourself included Good, and bad relationships exist in every occupation, and in every walk of life. No need to make such generalizations about sw relationships like we're some kind of non human, sustained only by our jobs.. We're complete multifaceted people, and just like any other section of humanity, we have good and bad experiences with each part of our lives Sorry to rant, but I'm in awe that I just read that on lyla

I personally do not post my phone number on my ads for a number of reasons. Leolist requires my number to set up my account. Reasons I don't post my number: Sites steal my ads and cross post on theirs. Some even changed my info such as age, location and services. Once I stopped posting my number, the theft stopped. Escort babylon is notorious for this. Random guys calling me outside my work hours. I don't know who they are. Common theme is they all ask for crude things. Negotiate my rates or want services I don't provide. I weed out most of these guys via email. If I feel they are a good match for me, THEN I give them my number. Same with the email relay option. It gives the time wasters an anonymous option to jerk me around. So, one question, if leolist did require us to post our number, just how would that stop the scammers? I don't see how it helps. Scammers will figure out a way to get around this. Lets make sure these scammers are being reported. If everyone hit the report button, they would stop. The scammers were on BP and other sites. However, because so many are looking for the "new" girl, these scammers are casting their fishing poles to see what they can catch. Things to watch out for: Ultra low rates Multiple locations at the same time Obvious fake pictures Multiple ads with different names/pictures Promises of everything Available 24/7 If guys stopped falling for these "tricks", the scammers will go away.

I don't post my phone number, only my website link. I do this so potential clients will know all my info before contacting me. Leo's list already makes us verify to post ads with a phone number, we just aren't required to post it publicly. Only posting my website saves a lot of time for me by cutting out the less desirables. I'm not a scammer, so you might want to rethink your stance on this before attempting to rally the troops... Luckily, you have this great resource here available...try sticking to Lyla where you know everyone is legit... Problem solved!

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There's 2-3 women working out of apartment in Spryfield. Advertising as 19yo each and no restrictions. Checked them out, no restrictions=no protection sex is on the menu and they all looked way too young and couldn't / wouldn't show proof of age. I was looking for protected sex with a few "kinks" and with someone for sure of legal age, wasn't up for what they were offering.

I'm well aware those of us who have regulars sometimes gift and may take them out to show our gratitude but I'm thinking more along the lines of something like this type of gift. This weekend I visited a regular and informed her this visit would be 'Just For Her'. Yesterday afternoon I picked up a bottle of red wine, a six pack of her favorite apple cider, foot lotion along with some fresh fruit. When I arrived we started by drinking wine and eating fruit. We then moved to the bedroom where I proceeded to a 20-25 min foot massage. When she asked when I wanted to 'be treated' I informed her it was not in the plans. Then it was time for a half hour deep tissue body massage and I used a coconut scented oil. My clothes stayed on the entire time, this was time just for her. Personally, I felt and still feel good about myself. She has always been more than just amazing to me and there have been times when we have gone over the allotted time. I also believe that even though this is an industry relationship we more often than not get back what we put into it.

Are you sure? With 2 pages of recommendations, along with 2 recent ones, as well as being verified on leolist, I am someone who is in the Saint John area. Yes, my incall is outside the downtown area, I am of course available for outcall for those that wish. My regulars keep me busy and satisfied. However, I do accept new inquiries from those interested.

See I disagree. The extra low rate should be a dead give away. It is not a lure if you know that is mostly a scam. That should be your first tool at screening. And Leo's List has the price right in ad title to make it even easier. I don't get frustrated at the low B&S ads because a) if you go bargain shopping then I am not the escort for you. So my price has already weeded you out which means less work for me b) if you keep falling for those types of ads then hopefully you learn fast. If not, I don't feel sorry for you. There are so many tools available to men. I can spot fake ads from a mile away. If you guys think with the right head, weeding through ads should be a piece of cake. Unless you are an Asian lover. Then you may have a real hard time.

Welcome Buggy G! As Issa mentioned be respectful in your communications with an SP. Take some time to do research here with ladies of your choice and you will not be disappointed. Best of luck!

First time visiting the board and have heard some about it on twit from SP's and MA's. And since I will finally get the courage to actually see one, I just thought best to get my feet wet here and see the do's and don'ts. Hobbying sounds like fun hobby to start. So am just a newbie on here just trying to get to know my way around and see what it takes to get my fat ass to finally get to try it out. Any info would be great

Give leolist time. It will mature. I discovered something that eliminated almost all of the fake ads. I realized if you go to Leolist and Advanced filters and in the phone number part, put "902" for the area code and leave the rest blank you only see providers with a phone number and in the 902 area code. This does unfortunately remove legit providers advertising without a phone number or using a non "902" phone number. But frankly there's plenty of providers with 902 numbers and not having to wade through the fakes is a big plus. This is great for Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, etc places with largely a single area code, not so good in Ontario where multiple area codes are common but still might have some practical uses.

There's tons of fake ads on leolist.cc Some are easily spotted by the lack of a phone number, others are harder to detect. Can I suggest everyone click the "Report Ad" button when you spot an ad that's clearly a fake. I've also emailed leolist and recommended they require a phone number for each ad and verify that number via call/sms before ads can be posted. I encourage everyone to email them too and either echo my suggestion or make your own suggestion. Leolist is great but we need to get rid of those fake ads.

Only stick with verified member on leolist..

Welcome... my best advice and I believe the Number 1 Rule is to always be respectful when approaching a lady... and you will see your journey will be amazing.., all the best! xo Isa

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Used to be quite common back in the day. I believed the practice mostly went out of fashion maybe about 10-15 yrs ago when it became a lame running joke on review boards & other discussion forums. The reputable rub joints and MAs dropped it when they realized it was bad for the business model. Some Asian joints still do it I hear. They discourage discussion until they reach a vulnerable point where they can make the upsell. Can't remember the last time it happened to me. Sorry if you're getting pressured - time to change MPs.

I've never had that happen either. I suggest simply initiating that discussion right at the start to eliminate this situation. Also haven't had any 'upsell' attempts though I have been inspired to provide an additional tip!

This is unfortunate hear. I seen Kiarah/Cherry once last year back in January and had an excellent time with her. She was very accommodating, amazingly sweet and a blast to talk to, haven't met a provider yet that was more down to earth. Ever since I got back in town i've been wanting to look her up and see her again as I couldn't stop thinking about the experience I had with her. We had a nice conversation early into the session we had together about struggles with drug use as I am a recovering addict myself, and without going into much detail, things seemed to be on the right track for her. It breaks my heart to hear that not only her but any recovering addict fall down that path again. If this is all true with whats happening with her. I hope things get back on track for her. God knows I understand that struggle and that dark path if shes on it.

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I hear the roar, and I seriously get it for the generalization. I'm NOT going to go there. You are correct in your roaring. I understand that you have your own lives, necessarily separate from the 'temporary reality' you all provide to your clients. I never ask about it - I don't want to cross a boundary that will make things awkward. Stepping away from the generalization, back to this specific circumstance - we have multiple potential (and past) clients who have indicated in this thread that a SP has asked if her male friend can participate - or whose male friend has walked in during the date, or hidden apparently in the closet. As a client, I understand fully an SPs need for safety, but the situation that seems to be described appears to be more than having a 'friend in the next room' or a 'friend upstairs.' Staying within the specifics described in this thread by several people - if I was asked if another male would be welcome (inferring that the male would be a participant of some sort) during the time I was spending with an SP, I would politely decline. It's not my thing, at all.

I just wanted to point out that maybe now can be an opportunity for SW's to let LYLA be known alongside LeoList. LYLA has ALWAYS been my go to and lately, it's been quiet. I miss the community and plan on being more active where I can be. A way where SW twitter can be more open about LYLA also. I really think a rebirth is in order. I'll be linking up and promoting on Twitter. A lot of people may not even know LYLA exists and it's the most informative site I've used along useful to stay safe and at no cost... I mean. I'm feeling nostalgic and rooting for LYLA's rebirth, so to speak. Warm Regards Madeleine (formerly known as BrodyStyles)

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No idea.. just noticed it was down after seeing this post. You can try advertising on http://www.hardontherock.com. it's another NL based listing site..

Lets hope that it is gone for good. At one point it was a good site to visit to see what traveling SP's would be around then it turn into nothing but scammers, bait n switch and even some people where blackmailed and assaulted by the scammers.

You saw her "yesterday..." Who? Katrine Cannon? Jessy Brown? Breath Taking Vivian? Gwen? Alisson? Gina? As far as a lot of us know, Katrine is retired, so who are you talking about?

Miss the good old newspaper ads. For younger people, it was like internet but on paper without pictures.