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I think this is one of those things that may happen with a provider you get to know and trust. I personally don’t offer this and I will always be a hard no as from a from a health perspective, you can contract parasites this way. If you do happen to find a provider who offers this, you may want to keep it to yourself as this sort of thing is very much on a case by case basis and an SP wouldn’t want to be bombarded with inquiries about this ESP if there is questionable hygiene. And God knows many of us have seen some not so good things related to hygiene while other clients have been very meticulous in their hygiene. I remember I used to have to have reviews written on me or comments that I had this special talent. People would contact me expecting me to do this on command. I’m not a circus act and there really does have to be chemistry for me to do this. I would get requests and they would be expecting me to put on some kind of show. I’m not a porn stair and It doesn’t work that way. I have to feel comfortable. So this topic about rimming would apply as well.

May as well join in with one of mine. ☺️💋

I was at your first event and it was a great time meeting many of the ladies of OIC as well as fellow hobbyists in support of the OIC in a fun social environment. Unfortunately I won't be available to attend but good luck and to anyone that's on the fence about going, just do it. Guarantee you will enjoy yourself.

Hello IsaMassage and JessicaRain, The event is open to all independent workers (women, men, trans folk, and anyone in-between) as long as they have a reference from a member of the collective. :)! Guests (clients) are screened by OIC committee members before they can buy a ticket. Cheers, Nat

Ottawa Independent Companions (OIC) is a collective of independent companions in Ottawa. We are organizing our third meet & greet on September 14 at a private location in Ottawa. Like our last social, we will have performances by Capital Tease Burlesque throughout the evening! All funds raised go towards our Emergency Fund for members experiencing financial difficulties. If you would like to attend, please e-mail [email protected] to begin the screening process. Tickets cost $80 each, and unlike our first social which had a bar, this social is BYOB. Independent companions (both members and non-members) attend for free. Please note this is a meet & greet only, similar to the old CERB socials. Just an opportunity to hangout and get to know each other better while enjoying a fun show. :) Cheers, Nat

I thought this was an interesting read From another Sp's Blog so I added the link here. I know I felt the same pressures as what this SP is talking about when I first started up again after 15 years of not doing this. I started without offering specific services that i now offer because of feeling this pressure. I think a lot of women new to the industry do feel this pressure as well as women that have been in the industry for a while now. I definitely think this lady has a very good point. https://courtesanfashion.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/the-sex-industry-cannot-go-forward-by-repeating-the-mistakes-of-the-past/

Just wondered if there were any SP or MA that are into both giving and receiving. Any info appreciated. Last search was a while ago. Maybe some new info available.

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You operate with class, Jessica! ..... I will suggest you correct 'manor' to manner..... gotta hate auto correct! And to the OP don't hesitate to meet with Emily. While I've never had an intimate visit with her I have met her a few times at Ottawa 'cerb' I.e. lyla socials. She is very lovely and personable.

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I must admit that would be Awesome, and i agree with Luckyme, i weekend at the spa with any one of the beautiful women here on lyla that you could choose to accompany you. Or rent a cabin in the woods, nice fires in the evening to sit buy and drink some wine. I do believe anything you choose will make sense and be very enjoyable. Sm

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If that is how it went then I think I see the problem. If you had stopped at 'why' it would have given her a chance to explain. (but you shouldn't have said 'why'. The correct response was 'I'll be down in a minute".) Instead you asked 'what's the problem' (sounds like it was something she did and it was put on her). Then the assumption that is was front desk (without even trying to find out what was happening. Then you state 'that's awkward' again putting it on her as though it's her problem and fault. The last you say you don't want to be seen with an escort (although no one had to know), HER, because you didn't want to be associated with her. Very plainly, you dissed her, personally. And the professional side of her said "i don't need to be told twice". Assumptions about how she/they/us should behave make an ass out of 'u', and me,... well I learned that lesson before and I'm not about to repeat it 😉 If you don't understand any of this, then it is hard to make you. It's about life, people, and being human. That's something that no one can help you with. You have to figure that stuff out for yourself. And take solace that you are not alone. There are many like you. Which is probably why she didn't argue with you or explain..she just left ...

So if I am reading this right you are saying most women in this line of work have mental health issues. Frankly that makes me worry about your mental health. You pay these women who (according to you) are mentally ill and you enjoy that experience? Also let's assume for the sake of an argument that what you say is true - That most of these women (they aren't girls btw) suffer mental health issues - why would you come to their forum and tell them how they are "sick" (according to you)? What kind of person does that? Please take the kinder approach and have some empathy.

I say that you can keep the old pictures but do post that the new ones are the recent pictures and that represent who they will see if they come and see you now. It's always nice to meet a lady that is confident of who she is well in her own skin like you Jessica.

As a lady, I can say that unless it is clearly offered, it is most likely a hard no for most ladies and asking in a first contact email will most likely get you a hard no right off the bat, if you get a reply at all. Those that are open to receiving, open to greek, anal digits and other anal play may be open to being asked without being offended in a first contact email. I think the OP is right in looking here from fellow hobbyists. I think he may fare better in PM as well since many ladies will not openly advertise they do this and most of their clients respect keeping it private. Because even if they do offer it and enjoy it, it is still and always will be a YMMV thing. So to be known as a rimming provider opens her up to way too many inquiries, or guys only looking for rimming. I don't openly advertise Greek for the same reason. I like it, but I like it my way, with a certain type of cock, when the stars are aligned with Venus and Mars is in retrograde. I will never do GREEK on a first time meeting, and I don't want to be seen solely for Greek. This is a tough one. Hope you find what you are looking for OP.

I agree with NJ. Based on my experience, this is a highly YMMV activity and therefor, emailing may not get you an answer. Chances are higher when the lady knows you better after the first encounter. Being respectful, gentle, hygienic and your will to please her will go a long way to obtain your goal.

Easy! 😉 I'd book an out of town spa and resort, invite my favorite lady to spend a few days with me. We'd go for duo massage, a long hike every day, enjoy great food at different restaurants, and... of course, some intimate time whenever we feel like it.

Same here. I’ve been looking here since my favourite SP retired years ago and still not much luck.

The law needs to set the difference between an escort hiring a company and being pimped. There are already provisions for that. For example, an escort can now safely hire a web designer, photographer, security staff and a driver. But she is not allowed to hire someone to handle her advertising. It makes no sense.

I hope that one day my daughter will choose whatever makes her happy. I hope that she’s also strong enough to stand up to people like you, who believe that her or anyone’s self worth should be based on society’s views and for her to know that love should be unconditional, not based on terms and conditions of what people deem as ‘acceptable’. If you think this means that I don’t truly care about my daughter then I feel so sorry for your children or future ones. How horrible it must be to be so small minded in such a wonderful world where anything is possible (including the idea that a sex worker actually enjoys their job 😉)

Most of the ladies that I see love receiving(DATO) but as far as rimming it all depends on how clean you are and this will depend on the lady that is seeing you, I recommend that you contact the lady you wish to see if she offers it.

You're absolutely right, DrLove. Conflating sex work with trafficking is absolutely standard for anyone who wishes to regulate or abolish sex work, but it doesn't stand up to any sort of analysis or reasoning. It's funny how trafficked people in agriculture or domestic services never get this level of attention. Laws like C36 hurt trafficked people because they make it far less likely that clients will raise the alarm about someone who may need help (they'd be admitting to a crime, after all) and are far more resistant to a lot of screening procedures, which makes everyone less safe. But the people who push these laws either don't care about the safety of sex workers, or view this as a good thing as they think the increased danger might drive women out of the industry. As to your original question: IANAL, but I'd have thought that the courts will only make decisions on the case that's brought before them, so if this one only challenges certain parts of C36 then the rest of it will be unafffected.

@lance36, Though it appears you have a sufficient amount of posts your account is still currently moderated, perhaps this is due to the amount of days you have been a member. Once this is removed you will be able to post a recommendation. Mod will do this shortly, just give them a little time.

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I have been admiring Ysabelle's pictures since she posted her first album a few years ago and I always told myself that I have to meet her after reading stories that she posted on her website(in French only, I think). Well after last Friday my dream happened and I got to meet her and her friend Melissa at Ysabelle's place. Getting a hold of her was easy, she replied to my text promptly and her details were very good for the directions to her place. There is plenty of street parking in a quiet neighborhood. As I entered her apartment I noticed them both dressed in classic skirt and blouse like secretaries at the office and with high heels, they looked amazing, we introduced ourselves, shared a few kisses and I removed my boots. I had requested a shower because I had been working all day and it feels better to meet ladies when you are clean and smell fresh. On my way out of the bathroom with only the towel around my waist I'm directed in the room were all the fun happened, I'll keep this memory to myself but I will say that Ysabelle is a lady on the street but a freak in the sheets and so is Melissa. I had a wonderful time with both of these ladies and I would repeat again for sure. Ysabelle and Melissa get a Top Notch seal of approval from me.

And see I use my site so much, I don't k is if I would be able to escort without it. I use it for screening, for keeping regulars engaged with my private section, I use it and forward all my ads to my site and men have no choice but to contact me through it. However I also mainly work with pre-booked appointment and am pretty low volume so that may be the difference for me.

There's also the fact that having a decent website/overall online presence increases one's sense of legitimacy. I've had many instances of men coming across my ad on Leolist or similar and then looking up my site/Twitter feed. After getting a sense of my personality they have been much more comfortable getting in contact to arrange a date. Just my two cents- I certainly appreciate those who actually read my FAQ! 😉

Hi :) I love this question! I started this smack in the middle of the year of anarchy (when old laws were suspended and new laws yet to be made) Of course review boards are the source of the problem!! The boards have a wide reach, they can influence the readers and since the alphas on the boards demand respect, many readers will do everything they can to appease so they can accepted. The problem comes when readers cannot think on their own and buy into the long held (sometimes erroneous) beliefs that these boards have propagated, all in the name of saving some poor soul from some bad girl. Even lots SW have bought into it. The original reason/excuse for the existence of reviews boards has morphed into a place were males (only males who are willing to be part of this world) can partake in locker room talk, share their methods on how to get the girl, and trash talk their last 'mate' with no consequences. Geez it may not even be true, but for males it is what they are socialized to do. It's a night out with guys at the strip club. Men being boys ;) When a group gets together in real life, and trades barbs and 'bull' stories, it stays within the group. Whether everyone in group believes it to be fact or fiction remains to be seen but they can leave and don't basically stay to be 'brainwashed' to think what everyone else in the group is thinking. When a large group gets together on the internet, and trades barbs and 'bull' stories, it stays around for less knowledgeable people to believe. And can influence them and their thought process and beliefs. Also males can compartmentalize this industry as it not real life for them but just a portion that can be turned on and off as it fits or doesn't fit into their lives. And the females (etc) for them, truly do not exist outside of their thoughts. So because of the atmosphere of review boards, it brings out the side of males that females usually don't want to see or know about. That side can show itself when meeting a SW and depending on the person (client) can manifest itself in any number of ways. That side can be present when males want to be part of a group. So, yes, they are the source of the problem. If they didn't exist then males would not be confident asking for things they shouldn't be asking for all because they read about it, a million times, from many anonymous men on the internet. It has set a norm and has created pressure because if a girl doesn't do what males on a review board have decided what should be included, then she will feel it from not getting enough business (that tells guys to punish the word "will" by not patronizing her)... or my favourite : "She shouldn't be in this industry and should find another career." That it just laughable.

"Review board culture has to end." Absolutely. I have decided not to give one more penny to any review board for advertising. I'm appalled by the conversations going on there. Why would I pay to be talked about like a piece of meat? We, providers, should stop advertising there, because if we pay, we support that. But unfortunately, this will probably not happen.

You may see a website as ineffective advertising, but I think it does a whole lot more. It's not just a marketing tool, it's also a screening tool. If you direct your traffic to your detailed website and a prospective client is asking questions that you have already answered on your site, is this a person you really want as a client? I know from discussions with a couple of ladies that most of these type of questions are guys who get their rocks off by wasting your time. They just want the attention. One lady I know will not even respond to such messages and automatically blacklists their number. The website will also provide a constant online presence in the event another advertising source faces demise. At least your regular clients will know that you're still active.

This is a very good overview and I agree with all of it. Another aspect that I'd like to add to Sophia's words is the impact offering unsafe services has had on public opinion on the industry. The fact that uncovered services are promoted by providers and preferred by many clients has undermined support from the very people we need to vote for our industry legislation. Public support is key in getting our laws changed. The very idea of our indoor industry willingly providing unsafe services triggers the Righteous Mind of the square population and without their support at the polls, we will never get the decriminalization laws we need. I remember heated conversations in the private SP area concerning this and all safe providers were vilified for standing their ground and calling out unsafe providers. The "I am woman hear me roar" mentality of providers who were ass kissing to reviewers adopted the mantra "I don't like how a condom tastes/feels in my mouth" as if that was up for discussion. Construction workers must wear steel toed boots and a hard hat. Drs and nurses must scrub in for surgeries, firemen wear oxygen tanks and fire retardant equipment. Safety is an inarguable labour right which sex workers who are financially unstable will forego and predatory, brain dead hobbyists know this. The thing about rights is people don't think too much about losing them until they need them. And funny enough, those vocal proponents of unsafe services have all pretty much disappeared. I'm not sure if the correlation can be made but I find it curious. I'm well aware that we can't control what goes on behind closed doors but I believe that the review culture is the main factor in where our industry currently stands both in the US and Canada. Reviews and blatant service listing advertisements were used extensively to influence MP's into the passing of C36 and I believe helped pass FOSTA/SESTA. I hope the emergence of antibiotic resistant gonorrhea might help self correct this situation. Moving forward we need to readopt the safety standards and discretion of years past... smiles, cat