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A copy and paste from my other comments on other threads on this topic. LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream. As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC. As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on the forums for a month. Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again, I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI. Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses. Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on the forums and that is just to advertise to customers I already have. Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined. Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver.

As I'm sure many people are aware, the folks who own and run LL also own and run this board... so hopefully they'll see this and comment officially. Paypal has never been friendly to sex-workers; if you're using it to accpet payment for bookings you always run the risk that they may discover what the money's for and simply shut your account down without notice. Good luck retrieving your money if that happens! That doesn't make it entirely useless, of course, but it's risky and leaving money in your Paypal account for any length of time is probably not a great idea. The financial side of advertising has always been a weak link it the chain. It's how they shut down advertising on Craigslist back in the day - the US government didn't go after CL itself... they just threatened to prosecute Visa and Mastercard for I-can't-remember-what. Those companies told CL that they'd withdraw their services and Craig Newmark, who was staring the destruction of his business in the face, backed down and stopped advertising for sex workers anywhere in the world. I think he kept the money for the ads that had already been paid for and never ran, though.

So this fear is all over LL switching to bitcoin? Although I am not completely familular with bitcoin myself, something tells me this may not be a completely horrible move. Especially for this industry. Yes the switch will be a bitch and there may be a few things to learn, but in the end this could actually be a much safer exchange for us all. Possibly. No more credit card statements concerned with being found, and i am pretty sure they have machines you can pull the money from. Although the exchange part of things would confuse things quite a bit. I am also a fan of sticking it to the major banks when possible. I havent used it myself yet but seems I may have to research it a bit more now just in case. I always have and always will prefer the old school method of things 😉 My heart does go out to those effected by such a sudden decision. Perhaps i should be cautious having an opinion while not having the experiance conducting business this way, but figured i would share my thoughts...

Obviously this idiot is tied to a website it wants to promote, to take over from LL...don't let it happen. Yes LL is pricey but now I'll continue to use it just out of spite, as all should. Problems with her CC using it.... Weak excuse and not to be believed.

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While there are no guarantee's in life I think you'll find you are very very likely 100% clean. There's a few STI's out there to worry about (HIV for example) but realistically the chances of getting them from the scenario you described is very low. If you google STI's they present a very alarmist view of transmission when in reality the transmission rates are rarely published and very low (with condoms and for a single sexual encounter). Just pick an STI and try to find the statistics on it. I linked to the best site I found and even when it says the transmission rate it say 20% that means WITHOUT a condom and with a partner over repeated sexual encounters covering a 6month to 1 year or longer period. Scroll down for a non-condom per encounter basis but if you make some assumptions about effectiveness of condoms and number of times you had sex you can see the percentages would drop way, way below 1% AND that assumes the escort even had an STI in the first place. The one's I know get tested routinely and routinely come up negative month after month after month. If you're worried go get tested, if you don't you'll worry a little forever and ever. If you do get tested you might worry waiting for the results but then it's done and you'll know. Also I think getting tested for HSV/Herpes would be good but it is hard to do and is ironically the most likely STI you'll get and it can't be cured at the moment. https://srconstantin.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/std-statistics/

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Don't be shy , ask polity and not the first question either. Read about the lady and say things you found interesting . If you are sincere compliment her perhaps . Not something stupid or generic. Dig on her site and you will find something to flatter her honestly. This happens to all ladies from guys who are idiots . I had a call and he was certainly sure he saw me before so not screening wasn't necessary . So please help me Mr. Man . Perhaps something about my home . Yes he said you live on Vimmy Avenue .Strike one. Umm, i own a particular very expensive cat.he did not remember that either . Well my beauties are always around and if you have not notice them you need a seeing eye dog. Oh!!!! I also have red hair. Genius. perhaps he isn't blind but of course grasping as all lairs and deceivers do. Needless to say there was no date and he will be blocked . Insincerity sucks .

Virtual currancy is definately a bit tricky that way but things change. Especially in todays tech direction. The unforunate part here is consentual and non-consentual services failing to be seperated and allowing beautiful free creatures like ourselves to be targetted. The ability to adapt is how one survives. Just my opinion...

If we follow the patteren of what happened to BP, eventually it will just fall even with bitcoin. Someone is going to come along and make something again, to fill the void of convient ways to pay. Bitcoins require lot more leg work, higher exchange rates and well its a bitch for most to figure out as well. Someone pointes out today, $20 BTC was $8 bucks .. Ouch.

Not sure if you caught this on twitter the other day, but a handfull of us wanted to boycott LL for a day, province by province to send a message that we can not continue being gouged like this. Well....guess this is one hell of a boycott😒

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That is an incredibly valid point as well and may i applaud ypu for doing it right and covering your ass. You should be able to exchange it to a place with record. Sadly, this may mean losing a chunk to conversion. I would definately have a good chat with your accountant! Tellin' the truth i feel had an excellent suggestion however. Getting a good tech guy/intrenet securirty officer to help set up you own page may not be a horrible plan! Even if the major cc's refuse to work with that kind of content, there are other companies who will. Payoneer may be worth looking into if its still a thing, or perhaps take a peek at what the cam sites use to payout? Why even go through a third party?

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I agree 1000% of what you said here! My frustration seems to be more with that many of the men who enquire are NOT doing research. Perhaps its a local thing?? When I ask, such a simple question as " where did you find my ad" and I constantly get an answer of " the internet" it makes my nerves rattled. It is very imporatnat to me ( am I alone here?) to assess where my ads are being viewed. That way I can spread my advertising budge to where its going to be productive. Its also apart of my screening. Just today I had 2 enquires for someone else..umm no I am Sophia?😮 And flip side, if ladies didnt only depend on one site all the time, 1. One site could not have 99% or the monopoly and be given the power to gouge us. And 2. When change happens ( fact of life) then ypur not scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I wrote this on another forum LL was making a change before this girl went on a rampage. They were, from my understanding - looking at review site as well. Based on a new twitter handle I followed a couple of days before this happened. So I think the ”ownership” change was already happening. Bottom line folks, our industry is not ever going to be as simple as mainstream. As much as I don't want to get into crypto, almost every single site that we need, will take it. So maybe it is time to just hop on board. What is more important, food on your table or the convenience of a CC. As for prices, its a lot. When that is what you solely rely on. I bet women pay more on there then they do on Terb for a month. Diversity is the name of the game here. I have never and will never put all my eggs in one basket. Not for anything, personal, business etc. That is especially true for this industry. It sucks when things don't go the way we like or the way we think it should go. Yet we have seen that stirring the pot too much leaves us worse off. Bedford case, CL shut down then BP, now this. The storm will pass but how many people will learn this time. Learn how to adapt or learn how to change up your game by diversifying? Bottom line - men will always buy sex and women will always sell it. It is just a matter of how easy or hard you make that within the limits of the ever-evolving industry. I will say if the powers at LL are no longer using an EU based company for processing, then change the currency back to CDN. That is a pure cash grab if they don't. Which again, I recognize is their right and I will continue to pay so long as I want to have my ad on that platform and feel, I get an ROI. Right now a bump once a month is good for me. However, when I tour East/West, I'll use it and pay. If a $10 as is making $250 - I ain't bitching about price. Escort advertising is so cheap compared to the mainstream for real businesses. Hell, my print cost on flyers for just events at my job cost more than a year of advertising on TERB and that us just to advertise to customers I already have. Ladies have to watch, they think guys only look for sex when they want it. That is not true. They research beforehand. You don't need to have your ad up on the front page all the time, you don't need to only use LL on the day you are working. I say take this time to learn about other advertising venues or how to support those who have stay tried and true longer than CL, BP and LL combined. Which is Terb. Sorry, that turned into more than I thought. As a businesswoman, I get frustrated at how upset these women get. Only because I know if they just tweaked a couple of things in their game, they wouldn't have to worry as much as they do. I wish there was a magic handbook I could give out. I wish women would put 10% of every booking away for days like today. It would help pay that hotel when you found out after you checked in that you can’t place an ad LL. I wish ladies would use more then one site. It would make sure you had another place to advertise when now stuck in a pre-paid hotel and no LL. To be clear, I'm not mad at women. Just frustrated they have to go through this when I know a change here or there could have made this issue such a non issue for them as it is for me. I wish one person didn't decide for the rest what was good and what was not. First with Bedford and now this trans woman from Vancouver.

Mine can get pissy all she wants. A receipt is a receipt and I'm claimin’ that shit. Lol.

LL has a section that shows a record of your purchases and in Euro. It can be used as a receipt. Regardless of whether you paid by bitcoin. Under the ”gift card” section as if you are going to buy more. At the bottom. Click the order. You will have to screen cap it.

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Very valid, and for myself I always have a stash of bitcoins. However, wondering how I claim that on my taxes as expenses leaves me puzzled. Believe it, I pay taxes as Sophia. So with out having advertising as proper expense sheet, I will be missing one of the biggest aspects of my business! This IS my career. I honestly feel we will evolve! And thats a good thing! Rough times ahead...probably. And if its bitcoin all the way, well I will see what CRA has to say about it lol.

Unfortunately, I beleive Your "Missing Some of The Others Points".. And Actually, Worrying About Weather the Company Can or Will Survive Due to "Virtual Currency" ..... Truthfully I really Don't Care.... Weather it Can or Will Survive.. . 😉... Others Will Replace It. In My Opinion, I'm Quite Sure A lot Are Worrying Of How This Will/Is Affecting Ones Ability To Provide.. Keep Providing For Themselves and Family. "There Are Quite A Few Service Providers... This is "Their Bread & Butter... " So I Do Apologize If Im Sounding Hard... 😋.. ... There Are Many, Trying To Find Alternative Sites. Then, Still Worry.. Weather Their Needed Quota .. Will Be There... "Virtual Currency".. Would Be The Farthest Worry For Many... My Opinion 😏 xoxo's 💋

as I read this...I wonder don't you SP's have contacts that know how to set up a site like this...perhaps if you guys were to organize yourselves...start you own site. a site for SP's owned by SP's. But I can almost assure you like Lady Sophia has said greed will rise up and take over what ever is next.

Seriously? Every major credit card company has refused service to leoslist. They feel and understandably so, these sites are fundamentally used to traffic women. My question is...can a company survive in a global economy with revenue generated from virtual currency? Eventually, don't they have pay employees with real money?

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Unfortunately, ladies you are missing the point. We are the few, advertising on leoslist ( backpage, craigslist) of our own free will. It was inevitable, and actually right, that every major credit card, refused service. Done.... Leoslist is still there. Time to learn about bitcoin, litecoin... My question is.... Can a legitimate company exist on virtual currency? Sacha

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Read my orginal post. I gave other sites to find us on. I also explained that its important to 1. Advertisers utilize as many sites as they can. 2. When us ladies as where you seen our ads, please say which site you found us on.

Well i am in for some reading when i get home later...

No worries Sophia, already have, Sucks that this is happening but as you say it’s happened before it will happen again. Rest assured though that if LL gets shut down there will be somewhere else that everyone will gravitate to until that gets shut down and the cycle repeats..

Is always going to happen. Cl, then BP and now LL. As long as greed worms his ugly head into our advertising sites it will be just a fact of life. A site suddenly gets to a milti million level, someone ( in this case another SW) decides to take it down. Why? Well. To hooefully creat something to fill that void and eventually cash in as well. Or its a anti SW trying to save the wrold ( last time was a sherif in US. ) Now this one, claims she wants to get rid of #digitalpimps ...hummm...wonder if her motives are so pure? Just other day on Twitter some of us were saying we should all pick a day and boycott LL province by province to send them the message that we can not be gouged any longer. We survived CL and BP shut downs, we will survive and evlove from this too. PLEASE GENTS....reach out to your ladies and reassure them you are able to stay in touch with them. Many will be very worried that they are loosing thier means to support themseleves.

Ohh, I'm sorry "Greenteal".. I thought that's what you meant.. wasn't sure. 🙄...I've been at this for hours (like some others) and Fusterated ... As we speak, I'm getting a Drink (good stuff) .. Would Anyone Else Like One 🤗

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