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Women are the worst. Really. And they have claws. So many nights I went home with literal holes in my ass. A big bulge in my pants that was purely money, but it wasn't the best time in my life. Performing on stage was great. Making the sale was easy. It was the actual work that led to all kinds of trouble. Yeah, my job was mostly grope and grab, let them put it in their mouth or in their shirt for a minute, maybe stir their drink to cool off, get paid and move on. All on the floor. We hardly got anyone into the back rooms because it was $5/dance back there. On the floor, it was basically a dollar a grope. As long as I was making money, I put up with it. That's just the way it was 35 years ago. We were young, dumb, and full of cum. It didn't really get to us because that was the job. Plus, it was good for the ego. Men are taught to be courteous in a situation like that and mostly we behave. Sometimes it gets out of control and some guys are just fucking idiots, but generally I find that the guys are way less of a problem. Women in a strip club are finally free to act out, no longer bound by the strict rules of society. They go wild. They lose ALL inhibition and sense. There aren't a lot of male clubs around anymore and the all-male revues that cruise through town are very controlled. That leaves just the regular SCs which is where this problem you describe comes up. I've seen it. I've also seen some ladies who are as respectful and generous as I am. Not many, granted, but a few.

This is what makes me go HMMMMMM..... The whole #metoo movement, which I think was needed, did really nothing to educate women equally on their forms of sexual harassment. I get that women need to catch up to men in many regards and some do believe that until we are equal on things like the pay gap, abortion rights, etc, that we then don’t have to look at our behaviour as women, but I personally don’t believe in this. How can we preach and teach about sexual assault and harassment, but then act like fools when we see a hot ripped guy in front of us? I feel that we need to be setting the example, not saying do as we say, not as we do. Sadly, I don’t think is something that is going to change anytime soon. While I think that women need to look inwards on these issues, I think men have a role to play as well. When a female teacher sexually assaults a male student, men all jump up saying “ I wish that happened to me as a teen” which gives the woman a pass simply because he was a horny teen or she is consider attractive so the crime is diminished in way, which is not right in my opinion. It is a hard topic to discuss, but I think discussion is needed. Change can not happen if we don’t talk.

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So a long time ago I saw a short video clip of a female waitress at a strip club kick the shit out of another woman who groped her ass as she walked by. She said just because you are female doesn't give you the right to touch me. She was 1000% right. I just saw a tweet about dancers and comparing the double of standard of male dancers are entertainers while female dancers are considered money hungry bitches. It got me thinking of other double standards. So back to the groping. It is very true that women who see male dancers are always groping and grabbing the dancers. I have seen females do the same to female dancers and I have hears how much female dancers hate it yet how many go through the motions afraid of losing business. As far as I am concerned that is a form.of sexual harassment/assault. I think many women don't check their own sexual harassment of others. It is assumed that women can't don't harass like that but they do. Do you consider it wrong? A double standard? No big deal? Any thoughts on how to stop this? To bring awareness? I know many women will not like this thread but if we are to be equal in all things good and beneficial to us as women in comparison to men, we have to look at ourself equally in the negative to bring about our own change in society. So thoughts?

I have been a long time member of this site and had met many wonderful ladies throughout the years, I even met some of the male members which were also great people to talk with because we had so much in common(all you amazing ladies that we like so much). I'm frustrated this morning because of some guys(maybe not all from this site) have canceled or no show with a traveling lady that I have been looking so much forward to meet and now she had to cancel on me. For those that know a little about me, know that I post a lot of pictures, pictures that I find inspiring for myself in hope that some of the ladies that I meet would wear similar clothing and I would get to see them in it. I try not to get involved in the hot discussions where someone is to blame for something or the negative ones where bashing is going on. I want to share my positive view of the wonderful ladies that share this site with us and praise them for what they do. I hate fighting and always try to solve any problem between friends, so I often apologize even when I know I'm not in the wrong. Here is my rant, Earlier this week I saw a posting from a traveling lady that I have been looking to meet for a long time. She only comes to Ottawa once every few years and this time around her schedule and mine were perfect, I emailed her to ask for a time and day during her short stay and it was all going my way until this morning when I read her email. She told me that she knows that some people will cancel last minute and that there will be no shows so she had booked a few people for her stay and only one showed up so far. At 3:40am this morning she said that she didn't want to take the chance of a no show with me and that she was going to bed and needed her sleep. If I wanted to meet her it would have to be at noon or later. If I were single and had all the time in the world I would have jumped on this but because I have a wife and she expect me at home a little after noon I can't go ahead with her proposal so I wrote to her that I couldn't see her at that time. Am I mad that she did this to me? Yes, but I understand where she is coming from and respect her decision. Will I ever want to see her again? Most definitely but will our schedule line up again? Only time will tell. So my rant is to all the guys that don't show or cancel last minute with any ladies that travel to our city or even if they are local ladies.

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Similar as what GT said, go back over 27 years ago, I was dating a girl, and my friend was on a blind date with her friend. We ended up in Montreal for a nice meal and decided to go to a club. Of course the club we wanted to go to was above the club 281 which has male strippers, so the ladies didn't want to stand in line to go upstairs so they went directly in at the 281 and found a table and we were to wait for them upstairs. Well as we got to the doorman to go upstairs my friend had on running shoes and it was a big no no for upstairs so instead of waiting in the hallway for our lady friends to come out we asked if we could go and find them, they let one of us go in and I was petrified of what I felt and saw. I was being groped and kissed and licked in the face by so many women, trying to pull down my zipper and feeling my ass. As soon as I found our lady friends we immediately left and they "protected" me from those "monsters". While I was looking for them I saw things happening to those guys from those women I can't even repeat on here. I seen guys whistle at those strippers in club and say things but women in a male stripper club are far worst then men.

Equality doesn't count for much when there is a double standard. Mentioning "screaming and some rushing the stage" of course reminds of Beetlemania which according to this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-12-14-8604030230-story.html came about partially b/c: "In a highly sexualized society (one sociologist found that the number of explicitly sexual references in the mass media had doubled between 1950 and 1960), teen and preteen girls were expected to be not only `good` and `pure` but to be the enforcers of purity within their teen society--drawing the line for overeager boys and ostracizing girls who failed in this responsibility. To abandon control--to scream, faint, dash about in mobs--was, in form if not in conscious intent, to protest the sexual repressiveness, the rigid double standard of female teen culture." The above was written in 1986, a simple search for "double standard culture female" provides evidence that this effect is likely still highly relevant, here: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130603142237.htm. To the original post -- it's literally impossible to defend specific cases of unwanted groping but when you are talking about "change in society" and thinking about Greenteal's example IMHO we need to allow women more license than we would men since they are still impacted by a double standard that was clearly described over 3 decades ago. Generally I don't think there is any place in 2019 for us to admonish women for "acting out", even if in black-and-white terms it may seem "undesirable" or "extreme".

I did say that I was mad that she did this to me, but not mad at her, I was mad at all the other guys that did this to her. And I did mentioned that I understand why she did this to me. Fast forward a little after I wrote this rant, she contacted me and we ended up having a date and it was a great one on top of that. I compensated her very well for what she did because I appreciated what she did for me.

Notch, I feel your pain as I've had providers cancel at the last minute as well and it can be very frustrating. I would take your last comment one step further and include the guys that cancel last minute or don't show for local ladies as well. I get it, things come up, but in the decade I have been hobbying I have had to cancel an appointment less than 5 times. And when I do I always gave the lady as much advance notice as I could, determined if any compensation was required (the ladies understood and didn't request any compensation), and followed up with another booking when possible. Time, and money, are important to both the client and provider and the clients need to take care of their end of the arrangement in good faith.

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