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To play devils advocate myself.. 😈 We all know that massage doesn't usually carry the same ymmv risk as certain expected gfe services would need to 🤷 He said in his original post that he was denied for hygiene I don't know you @Halifaxseeker, and I'm certainly not trying to shame anyone, so I won't elaborate on why someone might be denied based on ymmv for gfe specific services, but this isn't the same as ordering a massage, or a cheeseburger lol McDonald's doesn't care about the state of your hygiene 🤷 These are higher risk/ intimate services, which is why they're ymmv at all

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For those that don't know this term YMMV, it means "Your mileage may vary". So many hobbyists don't really understand this term and think its a way that providers promise something yet have no plans to provide it. In reality, this term boils down to consent. If you don't understand true consent, this is where everything goes off the rails. Granted, there are those that promise services without following through. Its a shame, and I wish they didn't do this. However, I want to talk about the real issue behind providers that experience hobbyists who choose to ignore our boundaries. I remember a client who took a shower, yet when he sat down on the bed, left a sh*t stain on my sheets. A client who grabbed my tits so hard without warning, that my boobs hurt for days after and were bruised. A client who tried to get a service I told him I don't provide, and got hissy at me. After he tried again, and I had to tell him to leave. A client that decided strangling me was cool, and I had to run out of his house naked, fearing for my life. I could go on. I dont care if you are minty clean, ramming your tongue down my throat doesn't make me wet. It makes me feel used and at risk. I'm pretty easy going, yet I'm amazed at the hobbyist that have no clue about what actually makes women feel safe. Everything always comes down to consent. Its enthuiastic, clear, ongoing, and can be revoked at any point. Even if you are paying for a service. I still remember an inquiry at an agency I worked at. It went something like this. Him "I want to hire a whore for my 18th birthday". Me "I'm sorry, we dont have anyone available that sees clients that are 18". Him "What? Thats discrimination. You cant do that. Im calling my lawyer". Me "would you like to give your lawyer the number of our lawyer? We would never force a provider to see a client she doesn't want to see". Bizarrely, his father called and tried to book a "hooker" for his son, and even suggested that he could be there to make her "feel safe". Like yes, having 2 men in the room will make her feel safe. So, at the end of the day, those that complain about this must look deep into their motives. Are you asking your provider if she wants to continue? Does she feel comfortable to say no? Remembering my early days where I just went along instead of stopping the encounter. Paid rape is never OK and it haunts me. I'm not the only provider who has experienced this, so check your privilege. The black pill, incel monologue doesn't work here. This is why we screen. Ask for references. Ask for deposits. Check you out. To keep us safe. We don't have an ulterior motive to fu*k you over. It's to keep us safe.

I definitely agree with you about this everybody should feel safe and the SP should always be treated with respect unfortunately some people out there feel since they are paying for it they can do whatever they want and then get mad that they are asked to pay a deposit or are denied service it’s the providers right to say no

I’ve seen a couple not bad not good haha just Meh 🫤

It's not that your wrong, it's that the reason they won't is founded on experience. Hence why legalization and regulation would put an end to these shenanigans for the most part. This would protect both sides, the vendor and the customer.

I will stop commenting from today I think I should just keep the truth to myself from now on.

Don’t start you’ll end up spending all your money on this. This is worse than gambling! Super addictive.

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Idk.. Lyla members make up such a small portion of the overall community here, that I'd still keep an eye on them for dates, if you're interested in them 👀 I follow providers on Twitter/X who are never mentioned here on lyla, but must do well because they keep coming back 🙂

Why are you here bro? All I ever see you do on here is complain and whine

And here we go once again, this shit is never ending Thank fck I ask for a deposit now, the guys that respect our safety and time will send and the ones that don't won't