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Thanks for letting everyone know - just to make this clear once the name is changed (as the name on the above post will be different). Surrey-BBW is changing her alias here to Angela Aurora

Thanks. yeah that made it had to read (table issues with percentages) I fixed it by shorting the titles of the ratings. We all know what they mean

It looks like you PM is working E.D. I will send you a test one now.

LOL.. hold down you CTRL button and hit the + key a few times! ;)

I have removed most of the "ratting" options from the recommendations as a number of the ladies have voiced some distaste for these (Some feel that anything less than 10 would be insulting - especially with hygiene and looks). I do not want to insult anyone or hurt anyone's feelings (this board must stay positive) so I removed the items in question. This has even been requested from ladies who received all 9's and 10's across the board (well above average) but again we want this website to be 100% sp friendly and if that bothers even a few of the ladies we must consider everyone's feelings and try to find a compromize. I have however left the following so you can still rate the incall location (if applicable) and you can rate the overall atmosphere of the call (this does not mean how clean the air was people - someone gave low marks here because they could smell cigarette smoke!) I agree it could make the experience less enjoyable but the "atmosphere" we are talking about here is more of a "Rate the overall experience on a Pleasant, fun and exciting scale of 1 to 10" (Does that make sense)? Location Rating (if incall) Overall Atmosphere (Pleasant, fun and exciting scale) as always your feedback (and suggestions) are welcome by PM or reply here.

When in doubt click the person's name who made the recommendation and review his profile - see what other posts they have made and what comments others have made on those posts. Often the shill posters only have silly comments or no other comments at all. The more posts the member has the higher chance it is legit.

Welcome to the site, I moved your post from the general discussion area to the Ottawa area for you. Each city has it's own section and this is where most of the Ottawa members contribute.

Your a bitter one, As you may have noticed your comment is insulting some people. I understand your point you are trying to make but a little diplomacy will go a long way. Telling people to get a life and to wake up and smell the roses is not going to make you very popular here (it may even get you booted from the site) I am more concerned however with your statement "they don't care about your feelings" - it's not a accurate statement and it makes the ladies seam like cold hearted objects. I see from your past posts that you prefer the Asian ladies so maybe this is cultural difference?? I am asking and not making a statement here as I know little about the Asian SP culture and I am wondering if a common difference exists (the last thing I want is someone accusing me of feeding a racial stereotype or something here - that is not my intention at all) the comment is just a observation. I figure with all the Asian bait and switch problems in the and all the Asian sex-slave brothels / massage spa's that are getting busted all over Canada this could very well be a common issue. I could imagine the ladies working in these environments are NOT very happy and could come across as cold and emotionless. I remember going to the fairbanks hotel in Toronto with a friend back in the early 90's and a guy would come to your table with a book of available ladies and radio the lady of your choice to the table. My friend loved the ladies and would spend hours ordering the ladies to the table for dances and all I can remember is how unhappy many of them looked. I am wondering now if that is a cultural thing or a environment issue as I never went back and you never see that in a regular Canadian strip club (at least none I have been to). Many of the ladies develop feelings for the guys (especially long time clients - they almost always have a special bond and chemistry) but this takes time and is not the case with everyone. Most of the friendships you see online here are working relationships and some have even developed into social friendships outside of business (but if anyone is seeking a social friendship for dating/hanging out/etc... they should not be calling up the ladies for this!!! It does happen - just don't ever expect it or seek it out - if it happens it happens and it's not very common!) If someone is calling up a SP seeking a relationship with that lady that is not business related they are wasting the ladies time (and there own time). Chances are that person has a unhealthy mind and should be spending the money on a good shrink or help of some kind. Unfortunately (sadly) this is all too common in the business (stalkers and other sick minded individuals are often drawn to the ladies - With no warning the lady visits the guy for a first date and shows them some attention and the next think they know the guy is showing up outside their house or calling them every day and night as they can not separate the reality from the fantasy!). Some people just have trouble accepting that when the hour is up the date and fantasy are over. Quite often the sick minded men pay for a date, the lady is kind to them and shows them affection and the ill man gets confused and starts to become delusional and obsessive. This can put the lady in danger and many of the ladies leave the business or change names or stop taking new clients (Semi-retirement) because of guys like this. They become obsessive stalkers and can even become violent. It is a business and a much needed service but first and foremost the ladies are real people who deserve respect and to be treated as a equal to you. When you see the ladies you are obligated to pay them each and every time for their time. If you start to get the feeling like you want more than a working paid relationship you are not going to like the answer and you will probably not be welcome back with that lady for future visits.

No, the chat is flash only and the back end is a tomcat server (Server side Java not javascript). You need the flash plugin to get into chat. Good news is the Iphone flash player is made already by Adobe and is just waiting approval from apple from the looks of it (http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/adobe-confirms.html)

Will the iphone run flash apps? It's safari based right? I have been curious how it works on the iphone. The mobile version needs some work but I do like it on my palm.

Capitalman is not all that good at diplomacy and often speaks his mind (I think he likes to stir the pot so to speak) but he has a good heart. A little too harsh on this one Cap! However... the info you gave is very valuable so I would hate for horwood or anyone else to pass over this as most people do not realize this to be true. Cap is very correct as many of the ladies stop seeing new clients due to issues in their personal lives (often kids, ex-husbands/boyfriend, family... and often all of the above)... but many do retire (or take leave) maybe cause they found a new love or even a new job to take a break (many of the ladies do come back as well). On the flip side some of the ladies change names and try other things to hide and it's a hard call to offer anyone advise who asks (if you have the inside scoop that is) as you could be giving info to someone the lady is trying to avoid. I am asked all the time "Do you remember XXXX and if so do you know if she is still working and how I can get a hold of her" usually this is just a past client who wants to visit her again and has lost touch but it could be the ex-husband/boyfriend/family/etc... trying to dig up info (I always say no whether I know anything or not for her safety and protection - if she wanted you to find her she would make it possible)

On a side note... do we have any Ubuntu/fedora/linux users here? I always installed linux on my out or date computers and all the servers run fedora but last year I installed UBUNTU on a core2duo machine with a nice 3d graphics card and I LOVE the Beyrl/compiz Fusion transitions. They really do blow the doors off Vista. Anyone interested have a peak at this... it's not my desktop but it's similar and if gives you a good idea of what the UBUNTU OS is like (and it's free!) Compiz Development Video (You Tube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I

I love mac's (Especially now that they are INTEL based) as I prefer the UNIX environment over the messy windows/dos environment and a mac is essentially unix based system but safari is a love/hate relationship. Safari is great cause it's fast but that comes at a price as it only likes really well written code (This is the sacrifice for the speed) - unfortunately most websites are not STRICT XHTML complaint so it does not do well on many sites. Firefox, IE and even crome are much more tolerant for crappy written web pages and bad scripts IE (on a PC at least) will try to display almost anything you give it and usually it interprets the page well. The downfall is the code for IE is huge (that is why it takes so long to load web pages compared to firefox and safari. On a PC some of IE is preloaded as I beleive it uses the windows explorer core to run so when you click the "Big blue E" on the PC it opens fast (Faster than firefox) and since it comes as the default browser on PC's as well so many people prefer it still to this day. If I am in a real rush to look something up and I do not have a firefox window open already I click the bad blue E myself at times! (I know - it's a bad habit but sometimes I am very impatient) This bulky code that allows IE to interpret bad web page code makes the browser slower when loading pages. Firefox has much of the same code (Probably written a little better and more optimized however) but it to tries to display pretty much any website code you throw at it... it does have less overhead however so it makes firefox a little quicker when loading pages. When I switch from MAC to PC to LINUX it's the same pretty much so it's familiar on all platforms. At least we do not need to deal with netscape anymore!!

Ladies: You are free to use the photo albums to upload photos but please no sex acts or genital images (Including bum hole!) as these cause the search engines to classify us as a porn site. Please also only upload photos that you own the copyright. Topless photos are fine and showing photos of your bum are fine as well as long as no doors are showing! Gentleman: You can upload your own personal images to the album if you wish and if you do we would suggest making it a private album. You can NOT upload porn to share (Even private images as you do not own the copyright to porn you find online and we don't want porn images on the site) secondly if you upload a photo of yourself please make sure other people are NOT in the photos. We have removed photos of you guys with kids in the pictures, other people in the background and even family portraits hanging on the walls behind you - this is a NO NO as those people should NOT be in photos on this site. Please use your head. Same rules apply (no genital nudity, you must own the copyright of the images, etc...) The public photo albums are for the ladies, the images show on the front page of the site (Randomly) and the last thing we all want to see is a pile of guys photos showing up on the front page. Please again... make them private or don't upload them. Everyone: I wish I didn't have to post things like this but obviously I do need to as we have a big problem with people not reading the photo album rules that are in BRIGHT RED before you submit the photos (when uploading the images to your albums) Thank you. TheMOD

Sorry, I should have said Javascript and I said Java (The chat does run off tomcat java server and flash - with a flash media server). I have tried with safari/opera etc... and they all suck on a mac (for many sites) even IE for MAC is painful at best (hell it's painful on a PC) so I use firefox for my MAC and the PC as well as my LINUX (Ubuntu) machine. It's almost exactly the same on all three systems and it works the best on most sites. I don't really have problems with any of them in firefox.

The shout box is AJAX based (Java) - it is suppose to refresh in real time like a chat window but that feature crashes the server so I had to remove it. It can be quarky on some people's computers (and it does not work well on our MAC G4 we have here for testing - it's ok in firefox but nothing else on the mac) ... On a PC if you change your IE settings or do not have a up to date java installed on your computer it could have problems too... The biggest problem we see is when the site get's really busy (or the server is doing the daily backup) the box actually causes some MySQL connection errors and some server load issues. I think the plug in was written poorly but no other plug-in exists like it so we must take the good with the bad for now until we find something better.

That is the problem.... no ryhme or reason and we have tried over and over to figure it out with no luck. The company who makes the chat has pretty much said spend another 2grand with us and we will fix the problem so maybe later this year we will have it in the budget to do this. It is frustrating and it even locks me out at times... never for 30 minutes... at most it takes me 4 tries to get in.

We have been testing it for a few days now and it's working well. The video resolution in the chat has received a HUGE resolution boost and the cams look 100 times better in my opinion. We still have that nasty login problem where it sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries to get into the room but once your in the room it seams to be pretty stable now. Let me know if anyone has any problems with the video or the chat.

Laws are VERY different in the US for prostitution. As long as you do not solicit the ladies in public and do not get caught in a brothel (Common bawdy house) you should be fine. In Canada the LE can set up street prostitution stings (Solicitation in public is illegal) and can bust massage spa's, stripclubs, incall locations, etc... (any common place of prostitution) - this does not include a rented hotel room if the guy pays for the room and same with a home address even if you have 100 sp's over to your house. Low traffic incall locations are a grey area (were a Independent lady is working by herself) - technically they could be considered a common bawdy house and complaints from neighbors could cause a investigation but I don't know of any low traffic incall locations that have been charged with common bawdy house charges and the police know the ladies are safer doing this than doing outcalls so chances are they just leave those ladies alone (and of course underage girls are illegal for a number of reasons so if you suspect the lady is under the age of 18 you should ask for ID to prove age and if none is supplied you should leave as you do NOT want to be tricked and busted for being with anyone under the age) Underage prostitution happens a lot at street level prostitution so sites like CL (Free sites) could be used for this as well so always protect yourself.

He has some in his album as well http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=219 Very impressive.

I was in the chat room earlier and I left my desk with the room logged in. when I cam back I noticed this sketch that UNTAMO did using the drawing features in the chat room. I was so impressed I had to screen shoot it and share it with everyone. Very nice work!!

Ottawa ? Struggling businesses in Ottawa can learn a lot from the sex industry, especially when it comes to pampering clients, says the former ?Mayflower Madam,? Sydney Biddle Barrows. FULL STORY http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Entertainment/Ottawa+businesses+turn+Mayflower+Madam+tricks/1217301/story.html

A Vancouver woman is selling a business idea billed tantalizingly on CL as "Truly 100% Recession Proof." The 140-page, "A to Z" plan being pitched online targets those looking for a foolproof money-making operation during the economic downturn and covers everything from how to set up an office to marketing and promotions. And then there's the part about hiring escorts. "If [you're] tired of this changing economy ... maybe this is for you. What does your financial future hold for you? Are you going to be able to pay off your home and retire early realistically or is it all just a pipe dream?" read the CL posting, which advertises an "escort agency kit." "It sounds like a sales pitch but it's not," says Bianca, who promises to reveal all the secrets of running an escort agency and make those who buy the kit flush with cash. FULL STORY: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090126.LRECESSION26/TPStory/

We will miss your posts Dreamer. Thanks for the contributions and helping make cerb what it is today. - best wishes from all of us here.

Suspended for fighting with another member in the live chat (it has nothing to do with her escorting and should not concern you with regards to her services)