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Unfortunately this business attracts people who want to make money as fast as possible and at any opportunity and they often never consider tomorrow (it's all about today and never consider tomorrow). Most of these people have no formal business training or experience. Unlike mainstream business where it costs thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands and even millions) to fix a bad corporate image or try to start over... the escort agency business is completely different. It's easily exploited and with little or no consequence. Some things to consider as to why this happens - They easily just shut down the phone for the one agency, change names (It's not like they apply for a legit business license or anything) and away they go again. New cell phone number, new fake photos and new ads... and everyone gets conned again. - only a SMALL portion of the internet users follow the discussion boards - if the agency sends a bait and switch girl out the customer usually only sends the girl away 1 out of every 20 times or so. because of this bait and switch is very profitable - just not for return clients. ...and a big reason I think as to why it is happening more and more every day now is because of the internet. If a legit agency tries to do things right many of the guys online slam them every chance they get. Guys expect the agencies to control the ladies and enforce the ladies to perform flawlessly with every client. This is unreal but when a agency is dealing with multiple ladies all getting a few negative reviews a week it just slams the agency. A agency who posts real photos, legit info and deals with complaints should be praised but instead that is often not good enough as people demand much more (unrealistic demands and expect that the customer is always right should be the way things are done... we all know that is not realistic and those people should be grateful that the agency is posting real info and photos and running a good agency as opposed to taking the easy route and bait and switching. Legit agencies with long term goals trying to build a good reputation have a uphill battle and that is mostly because of the forums these days. It may actually be easier and more profitable to just shut down the tarnished agency and open under a new name. The agencies can not please everyone and the ladies can not please everyone and often when the agency ladies do not perform well the finger points to the agency and the agency has to go on the defensive. It's a catch 22 issue and the internet is so new still to this world that it is really changing the way things are done. That is why a new approach was needed... and why I feel a recommendation board (with respected members) is so important in this day and age. Guy's will always post when they are not happy to warn everyone else but they will not go out of their way to post about a good visit unless they feel the lady deserves some recognition so when someone is worth taking time to recommend it adds so much more value to the post. That is my theory on this and why we run this board this way... we will see in another 10 years if I was right or wrong.... I have a feeling that most guys will get sick of sifting through 100's of negative posts to find a someone to visit with. Even the ladies who are highly recommended here could have an off day and get a negative review... could be some drunken client who she refused, someone with poor hygiene or someone who has anger issues... who knows... but when 10+ guys take the time to comment about how much they enjoy a lady it adds so much more value to her reputation. I know many of you guys like the thrill of the hunt (finding the next best escort and being the first to tell everyone) and I see why you like CL for this and other places as when a girl just starts out she does not have money for the big advertising sites... but remember that when you TOFTT you will probably be bait and switched or scammed more often then not as all the bait and switch agencies will also be exploiting these sites. They will also be here and on other forums as new members on sites posting shill posts and fake photos.

Hi Matt, in the Atlantic Service Providers - Schedules, Advertisements & announcements section you can make recommendations but since you work for the agency this area would not be appropriate for that as it could be viewed as a shill post. Feel free to post ads or suggestions in the announcements area on who's available and any other information the guys may be interested in.

welcome back... glad you like what we have done here.

Hey guys, when you have a recommendation please use the new recommendation feature available now in each city.

Hey guys, when you have a recommendation please use the new recommendation feature available now in each city.

Back a few years ago when the site was run on a free forum system (phpbb) we has a album feature for the ladies to upload photos. It was hacked and brought down the entire server... they used the photo upload system to install a nasty rootkit and gained full control over the server. It was a nightmare... so we were very hesitant in turning this album feature on but after some research it seams to be secure so we can only hope.

Good to hear. Your feedback is always appreciated.

I made some adjustments based on your suggestions... is it better now? Thanks for the feedback

Hey Dummpy, you can still get a summery of all new posts. Do you use the New Posts feature at the top? That is the first thing I click when I log in each day and skim it quickly before starting to read each one.

TIP: A trick exist to circumvent this. In the URL replace http://www.escorts-canada.com with http://www.adultad.net and that get's around stuff like that. In case your run into this somewhere else as well.

easier right? I hope... I find it easier to use already. Before it has hard to go from the ottawa announcements to the recommendation here they are all subthreads of the city so we will have a lot less confusion I think

You may notice a few changes to CERB over the weekend. We are... 1) Optimizing the site so that it's easier for you to view stuff in your city and not have to sort through all the data in the rest of the cities across Canada. 2) We are adding new forums and some new cities. 3) We are turning on the new recommendation system (In Ottawa for now) and will be adding to the rest of Canada as we go. 4) The news area is now set up as a news portal 5) rss/ipod/xml syndication has been activated for better indexing 6) We fixed the main header as it was not displaying in everyone's browser properly... 7) ... and I am sure a few more things are being done as well but it's 4:30am and the two of us who are working on the updates are very much done for the day! Enjoy...

MarieMillenium does not have access to the SP ONLY section CAT. Only the verifies accounts that have SERVICE PROVIDER under the names have access to that area.

My friend just got back from PEI and rented a car on hotwire and he highly recommended it as well. Said it was Avis at the airport where he got the car and was a great deal.

Ok, New and improved recommendation page has been made based on your feedback so far. Does it still need tweaking?

Let me know if you come up with anything to add before we go live. The problem is once we go live adding and removing stuff could cause problems so we should be ready before turning it on. I think the comment system will help with this, everyone can "Add" more info as a comment these check boxes were mainly intended for searching. They have all been assigned to the search field so you can look for a recommended SP in Ottawa that does DATY using the search feature. If this is successful we could consider getting a recommendation search feature specific for the recommendation area's (I am sure this could be done) Good points, this is the stuff I need feedback on the most. What is missing and what is redundant. Very good idea! I mandatory write up is something that is should have I will see what I can do about that. What else is missing or redundant? Let me know before we launch! P.S. to Dummpy... Hold tight I will try to get it up as quick as possible. Let's make sure it's done right to avoid future problems as it will be a paid to delete or add stuff as database's don't care for adding and removing tables and fields once they are set up (Can cause some odd stuff to happen)

Yes, it shows what each person recommended in a comment thread

Does look like the same photo...

What it probably is due to is that if the lady stops running her ad with EC then the link goes dead to her ad... we have no problems with TER and as far as I know they have no issues with us. TER is a good resource and had grown significantly over the years, people are trying to get them shut down (Other sites went thru the same stuff as well in the USA)... I hear a lot of stuff in the industry and I honestly can not remember hearing anything bad about Dave or TER.

We could make it so that you can only give the rankings a score of between 6 and 10 ? Then make a note that if you would score this person lower then it would not be a recommendation... should that be something to consider? We don't want it to be used to post bad reviews (they would be removed as they are now) it's only for recommendations

You can post details of this even here but the link you posted was not approved to display on this site.

We had a new feature made and customized for the site and we are just working out the bugs and making sure we have everything before we fully launch the feature. Please have a look at it and let us know what it is missing! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=91 It should be a MUCH better solution for everyone for recommendations as well as searching here on cerb. I thing the best thing would be to have a section for each city. I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions to improve on it before we launch it. (Keep in mind if you post some trial recommendations they may be deleted when we move this out of beta testing).

Looks like the court case is July 1st 2008 from what I can find online.

You know a few years ago Dave (Dave in Phoenix) who is the owner or ter from my understanding was posting on all the review sites and was fairly well liked. I remember back in the days of lyla.com Dave was posting about his travels and was well known (and liked) to other members for his good info. I don't recall off hand anyone ever saying he was doing wrong or using this to his advantage... also that site is very popular so it probably makes pretty good money from the advertisers so why would he blackmail a SP and take the chance of damaging the sites reputation or his own? If the site is making good money as he could just use the revenue for his own hobbing. It doesn't make a lot of sense really but anything is possible so don't take this the wrong way! I am just saying it could it be a set up... but if the charges are legit I do hope he gets convicted as I agree 100% that no one should blackmail another person. Have any of the ladies here been approached by anyone from ter offering good reviews in exchange with sexual favors? PM me please if you have (or know of someone who has). I don't like to string someone up unless we have all the facts. We all know that just because someone is charged for something does not make them guilty so be sure not to judge until you feel you have substantial information to go either way. Back to the original problem... ter and cerb are not competitive sites and they know that for sure... banning escorts-canada from ter would be silly as escorts-canada is such a popular site in Canada for escorts but I do know other directories do pay for advertising on that site so maybe they agreed to some exclusive thing with ter. If he has lawyer fee's I could see the need to do something like that. I am not sure so I did send a email and hopefully we can clear that up either way. Many people enjoy ter and I do recall a few years ago that the bigdog site had some legal trouble as well and they are still online and alive.... so we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Any independent (Escort, massage, exotic dancer, etc...) can post availability in this section for FREE - you do not need to be a paid advertiser here to use this unless you are working as or with a agency or spa. If you wish to run a banner here for additional exposure please visit this page (Click this link). Please simply follow these advertising rules & Guidelines... 1) No PROSTITUTION ads! 2) If you post a link to your website please return the link and place our banner on your site (our banner is below). Make sure you website DOES NOT have any PROSTITUTION RELATED STUFF offered that could be considered PROSTITUTION if linking from cerb to your site. 3) If you post a phone number please remember to remove the phone numbers or change it if you cancel or change the number in the future. You can ask the MOD to CENSOR your number if you entered it the same on all the pages. 4) Keep the photos you post under 650 x 650 pixels (If they are too large they will be removed). If you are unsure of size then this is how to know for sure. If you post the photo and it forces cerb to not look proper it is too big for this site. 5) Limit your posts to 1 advertisement per day MAX. If you are an agency or group of ladies then we may make an exception for the ladies who are visiting in cities but if your just spamming the board with ads we will delete them and your account. It's free so please DO NOT abuse it. 6) Do not try to make your title of your post stand out more then others, it makes the site look messy and hard to read. So no using a title like: "***(.)(.)***** LOOK HERE !!! **(.)(.)***" or any special characters to draw additional attention to your post title please. I will just delete the post and you would be waiting your time (and ours). 7) No links to escort directories unless they are on our approved directory list here :cool: No nude photos 9) Anyone found to be TRAFFICING another human being or posting for another person or under the age of 18 will be BANNED FOR LIFE and REPORTED TO THE AUTHORITIES! Approved directories are: - www.escorts-canada.com - www.localescorts.ca - www.lyla.com - www.shemale-canada.com - www.TorontoFetish.com - www.escorts-ottawa.ca At this time all others including free sites like CL are not allowed. Remember, if you post a link to your personal website return the link please. Place this banner or a text link on your site linking to www.cerb.ca please. We will randomly check for this and your website would be banned from listing it here if you do not honor this. It's a small price to pay for free advertising. Thank you :cool: TheMods