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Everones interests, attractions and budgets are different. It is always best to ask for recommendations on ladies (specific) to your interests or most members will ignore your post. You bumped this post with "You mean nobody knows one???" So i took the time to educate you as to why no one replied.

That is correct, your welcome to use the leave a comment icon to thank people for the info (it will not BUMP the thread and will give the guy some rep points rewarding him for the nice comment and info provided). I would encourage the use of this from both the ladies (as a thanks) and the other guys (who found value in what was added).

Sorry, I had to edit the "RATES" out of your post. If you feel this lady deserves a recommendation please be sure to post on in the recommendation section. Posting it here is allowed but if deserving a recommendation would be the way to go.

The subdomain has nothing to do with banners. Meaghan is having problems understanding all this banner stuff and we are just going back and forth. Can someone please help he lady (maybe someone can explain it better then i can as i am really swamped right now)

Your not doing your homework. Go to http://www.escorts-canada.com for instance and look at the ladies profiles. They all have indicators like this: MALE FEMALE COUPLES You wants someone who has COUPLES or FEMALE & COUPLES this is usually a good indication they see ladies ONE on ONE and COUPLES. When you find someone that interests you and your partner then come onto cerb and research her. Ask about her too. Be more specific, no one knows your exact interests so asking a general question like this will probably be ignored.

this thread is from Feb. with any luck she is no longer using fake photos on BP if she is still advertising. As of next month (6 months) we can review the status of her account again if she is still around.

Basically the guys will go where the ladies are so if we could get some regular ladies advertising in each city it will grow (and quick)

Ottawa is by far the busy city on cerb (it's closely related to EC and LYLA.com - Both have always been very strong in the ottawa market). I am so happy to see all the great comments of our members about how much they enjoy the positive take that cerb has (makes me proud so thank you all for that). I have to find a way to get other cities on board.

Please don't feed the trolls. Just use the REPORT THIS POST icon and DO NOT COMMENT publicly - you make my job harder and often give the troll the drama they are looking for. I had to delete a LOT of posts in this thread and now close it too.

This takes place already in PM's and I do not moderate the social groups but it could easily take place in a INVITE ONLY social group right here on cerb as well (I am not aware of any right now but it is completely possible). I agree a handful of guys get off on posting outright lies about the ladies (to slander or just bully them) and on the flip side a handful shill and do other unethical things (happens in every industry not just this one) but the key is having a community (AND MODERATORS) that will not stand for the unethical stuff. I would hate to see negative "Reviews" or "Reviews" in general where guys pick apart a ladies service. I would like to just avoid what I listed above.

If anyone ever tried that I hope the SP would immediately let us know about it. At this time I don't think anyone would do this, I am sure people rumor it to happen but no one has reported another member for anything like this. We dealt with a situation where a guy was trying to trade a good recommendation for a discount in the past (that was squashed quick) but I doubt the ladies would stand for such a thing. To boot... if say some lady took someone up on an offer like that and down the road it was found out cause he tried with with the wrong person... well... the truth would come out in the end. If this was to happen I think this probably would happen more with the "If you don't do this I will slander you" side of things rather then the "do this and I will write a glowing recommendation" seeing that it is a unethical (bottom feeder) thing to do. Some will, and I am sure it goes both ways. We have the SP ONLY area and say a lady is pissed at a regular client for some reason. He could be a true gentleman and they have had a falling out and she decides to tell everyone how horrible he is (it has happened) but on the flip side 5+ ladies will jump in and defend the same guy in the same report thread saying they find him to be a gentleman. I think the same would be true with the guys here on cerb. The bottom feeders don't last usually (always exceptions to every rule) but they don't usually make it to 100+ posts on here. If by chance they did and tried to slander someone I bet 5+ male members would come to the ladies defense just as quick as the ladies come to the guys defense. When you have reputable people and good solid policies and rules it all becomes greatly self moderated as the members will step up and vouch for one another. I would never want REVIEWS on cerb. I don't want to see RATINGS and I don't want to see complaints that end up being from some drunk dude who could not get it up and is mad he wasted his money and wants to frivolously blame someone other then himself. (I am well aware this happens a lot - EC gets these complaints all the time) ... stuff like she was only her 55 minutes and I paid for 60 I want you to shut her ad off cause she is ripping people off (Just makes me want to smack the guy and you know he is on every board posting crap about her wherever they will let him). I however would like to see more reports of the ... bait and switch Dangerous encounters (Guy hiding in closet with dog crap) Credit Card scams 10 minute one shot out the door stuff dirty gross incalls might be acceptable to post from high level members drug use (Not weed but needles, crack pipes, etc...) bad attitudes (mean, unfriendly, etc..) Basically the stuff that our good male "Gentlemen" members would not want to deal with. As for automatic graduation into a higher level access... maybe we need to do it like we do for the SP ONLY area if we choose to go that route. Vouched in by an existing member Voted in by existing members Reviewed by a moderator (Manually look at contributions to see if they are a good pick) Vouched for by so many SP's etc.... (lots of options to consider and explore) again... not for reviews and posting about a lady being a little think in the ankles (Man I hate those comments!) but true things people should know about like the stuff mentioned above.

This is a topic we (Myself and the staff at Escorts-Canada) have always struggled since day one. We hated to see good people getting slandered but on the flip side we hate to see bad SP's (Bait and switch, scams, etc..) getting away with scamming the guys .... but the only solution we could come up with was the cerb concept of positive board with recommendations only (as it is a lot easier to say something bad about someone then write something nice) Now, a few years ago I pitched the idea of a MENS area just like we have for the SP ONLY area. I am still not opposed to this, in fact the guys can do this themselves already with the private social groups and invite other guys to share private info and they can share private info in PM's as long as the info is not unsolicited. Just like the SP ONLY area this would be an area that men could have where either the public can not see the posts (this means search engines do NOT index info from this area either) or the section is READABLE but only qualified members can post in this area but either way you have to EARN the ability to post in that area and possibly read that area. This would be the only area where negative comments are welcome and only by qualified members (an extension to the already existing bait and switch and dangerous encounters warning area of each city). If the area was PRIVATE I would make sure the general population of the site knew about it so that it gives everyone something to work for and encourage contributions. My idea was instead of verified by ID or CREDIT CARD or a PAID AREA (I don't think that would fly here in canada) but they EARN the right to get into this area by contributing to the site. To make it even more secure we could help the ladies and the guys both by creating a SP ONLY verification system for the guys. I would also suggest a system where the ladies who have SP ONLY access (Verified) could also VERIFY a guy (some sort of thing on his profile where if 3 or more SP's click it then his account is VERIFIED (or even a rating system like BAD CLIENT, GOOD CLIENT, GREAT CLIENT, ABSOLUTE GENTLEMAN) and only verified SP's would be able to rate and see these ratings but if the guy gets verified by so many SP's he gains access to the VERIFIED MEMBERS area with access to the bad date info too? (again the ladies are already able to do this in social groups, in the SP ONLY area and in PM's so it's just making that easier for them if it was on each guys profile). For the guys to gain access we could have it as a level promotion (100 or even 500 posts and a member for at least 6 months before they graduate into that area) basically the ELITE member status or SENIOR MEMBER status this way they have time to see what cerb is all about, can't create an account here with the intention of slandering someone and also once they work that hard at building a reputation they don't want to risk loosing it by abusing this privilege. If someone was to gain access then be banned and sneak back onto the site they would need to start from scratch to earn that level back (so it's something more to loose as well so it would cut down on abuse a lot) Just some ideas that with some work I think would fly and keep in the spirit of cerb. The industry is changing a great deal (laws and sites like BP) so a responsible site like cerb will be more and more in demand as time goes on if the industry continues in this direction. We will need to adapt and grow but it's just a matter of how we do this and with the help of the council here and feedback from all of you (The members) I think we can make it work for everyone.

I see no issue with the poll or the time I added the poll. Only the people who either (1) want to cause drama or (2) want to negotiate are going to be against the poll as it shows how wrong it is and they don't want to be told that. Think it is time to close the thread. I will suggest to council as well that a new policy/rule on cerb should be that negotiating with a SP who does not specifically say her prices are negotiable will be against the rules. I see no reason why every lady needs to put that she does not negotiate in her ad (it makes her sound mean and negative and the ads should be positive) you don't walk into a restaurant and negotiate your dinner price (and if you do your an ass). Some things in this world should be non-negotiable and I feel in this business this is one of those things (and obviously I am not alone in thinking this). I will however let the council vote and decide if this should become policy here. Thanks for your votes and contributions on this important topic.

I added the poll, I wanted to stick the thread and use it to help educate new members to the site. So that they can see how wrong it is to do this. The handful of people who voted YES (It's ok) compared to the overwhelming positive results for NO (It is not ok) clearly show this thread was needed and is a issue that needs attention. This thread also lets me see who the trolls are on the site as they can't help themselves on a popular emotional thread like this. They have to post to cause drama with stupid comments. Makes it easier to weed out the unwanted members here.

NEXT PERSON TO POST A PHOTO SHOWING GENITALS WILL 1) GET A 7 DAY SUSPENSION and 2) THIS THREAD WILL GET CLOSED

As a new member you do have a learning curve ahead of you. Once your a member for a while and have contributed then you can make suggestions on how to make the site better but for now how about exploring the site and a little less complaining (Not really off to a good start). The site is complex and has a vast amount of info and features, if it's too far over your head either take it slow or the alternative is just choose not to support the site and find another place to frequent that is easier for you. Would that not be the best suggestion?

No, not at all. Ladies when they need a quick buck or when business slows many will run "Specials" where they voluntarily drop price for a short time and do higher volume of calls.... they do this themselves and not from someone trying to negotiate. It's supply and demand. A house is a TANGIBLE item not a "SERVICE" and most certainly not a SERVICE that is this personal. Your probably not going to go into your lawyer, doctor, accountant, etc... and negotiate a rate (however I am sure some of you would try). When dealing with a escort they are not selling a tangible item and not selling a standard service either, they are selling a very personal service. Bottom line here (as you can see from the ladies responses and the true gentleman's replies) it is NOT acceptable here to negotiate rates. Bottom Line. Unless the lady states she is negotiable in her ad you probably should not try to negotiate (you may find yourself blacklisted for doing so as well from the looks of some posts). I think we have educated the guys with this thread.... lets hope.

Undecided if this is troll comment or not but common sense says if anyone prices themselves out of a market they will move to a better market or they will lower rates... But... That has nothing to do with negotiating. Some people have a hard time accepting that others make more income or have more of a entertainment budget then they do. If you can't afford a Lamborghini then buy a corvette (both lots of fun to drive) or save your pennies and eventually you can get what you want. If her rates are too high for you but she stays in business and earns what she wishes to earn that means she has a market that supports her rates without you. Many markets exist in even the smallest cities and towns.

Well, it is not complicated and a reason exists for these qualification steps. The reason is that it stops most SHILL (Fake recommendations) being made. If we did not have this step the site could be (and would be) easily abused and the credibility of the recommendations goes downhill. so.... 1) Commenting on profiles does not count as a "POST" you need to comment on a public thread (Discussion). Join in a few conversations, contribute a little, let others see what you are all about as no one here will believe your recommendation without some substantial post history anyway. 2) Once you have 5 posts and have been a member for 5 days you can post a NEW recommendation for a lady who does not have one already. Other stuff opens up on the site when you contribute more as well (like elite member status opens the doors to some new threads here that standard members can not see but you need to earn those privileges by contributions) would you believe a recommendation from a new member with no post history? To me if it was the only thing that member posted I would just assume it was a SHILL post from the lady trying to stir up business or even a agent/friend/boyfriend/pimp/etc... the recommendations must be genuine and when you make it a little more difficult to just simply open a new account and post one it discourages a lot of this sort of undermined fake posting.

A heated debate is fine, a topic like this brings lots of emotion out of people. Calling it stupid and a train wreck and commenting like it is a all out war does not add value to the thread. In the past I would close threads when they got heated to the point some people started name calling or trolling. I (and many others) feel this is a topic that needs to be discussed and it helps educate people. Many guys do not realize how offensive many ladies find it when they try to negotiate rates. This thread will help educate those who don't know (and I know some guys won't care and will continue to do this but if they did not know before at least they will know now) Now I do not approve of hijacking threads (KITTEN/BUM) photo but I will let the one go for now as it was to lighten up the atmosphere but please on serious discussions lets keep that off too please.

What makes you think they don't look at this site? I know for a fact they do as I have spoken with police in the past in regards to the site. In fact a very nice lady police investigator contacted us not too long ago asking for assistance in a case. Now, your new so I suspect you think prostitution is illegal right? We watch a lot of american TV and prostitution in Canada (unlike MOST of the USA) is very much legal here. In canada streetwalking (public solicitation), brothels (common bawdy houses) and pimping/procuring is illegal. The actual exchange for money for sex in private is very much legal and since a website is not considered a PUBLIC PLACE discussing and advertising such activities in classified ads and online is NOT illegal. We do not allow discussions of illegal nature here. Included on this list is - streetwalkers - FS massage spa's - public brothels - sex in public (including "Car dates") - underage (18 is the legal age) - drugs - pimping and so on... Hope that helps

I don't like the name calling and immature banter either, anyone not being mature and trying to provoke a fight will be getting a vacation from cerb. This is an important topic that invokes emotion form all sides, it needs to be discussed but any trolling, flaming or name calling from this point on will get you a min, 7 day vacation from cerb. i am not closing this thread, it is important as it is one of the biggest problems in a service industry like this. With a tangible item for sale no one should take offense on a personal level when someone tries to barter or negotiate. With a service based sale it is personal. (Especially when your selling yourself and such a personal and intimate service as no other business can compare) No one should take offense to being asked "are your rates negotiable" as i am sure many ladies will discount for multiple hours or maybe on a second visit, the ladies all probably have standard replies to this question. Most service businesses a negotiated rate usually means a quicker and lesser level of service. Some of you may disagree but i tell you if someone asks me to do something and then asks to pay me less then the rate i asked for i refuse or let them know less money means time or less effort and will result in a lesser service) What a guy should do is find a lady who works happily within his budget or save up and treat himself once in a while.... Being a gentleman cause nothing could be less sexy then some cheap guy trying to get just a bj for just 15 minutes for xx dollars to a lady, you waste her time and if i were the lady i would say "sure" and send you to some non-existent address (or maybe the address of he std clinic) and waste his time like he was wasting mine. Its rude, its not being a gentleman and its not really acceptable on cerb unless the lady says she is negotiable (and even then other ladies get very upset at ladies who advertise that so that really is not acceptable in many peoples eyes ... Then again if i were firm i would send the cheap clients in the direction of he lady with the negotiable rates and be done with them) Guys... Dont be cheap, most ladies find this insulting and take it personally, thy are not selling a product, they are selling something much more personal. It is a very emotional business and when you are rude or disrespectful your not just being cheap our being insulting and hurtful. Lets be sure the ladies are treated like ladies (human beings and our equals). Don't give the real gentleman here a bad rep, play within your financial comfort level and if someones rate makes you uncomfortable find someone who is within your comfort zone or save your pennies, if no one is paying her rates she will lower them but its all about supply and demand and if you were ale to make 500.00 an hour and work enough to sustain your financial goals why the hell would you work for less? If no one will pay you 500.00 per hour you will adjust your rate right! Its all common sense!

Chatroom has been increased to 40 seats from 20 seats (Doubled it) so hopefully that is enough at this time but as needed we will increase the capacity.

I adjusted the NAG screen for new members to specifically say Posts or Threads (not comments) and they now need to post 1 post to remove the NAG screen and still 5 posts to open the recs and other features

As a new member (only his second post here) Moose0409 is not able to post in the recommendation area unless a this lady already has a recommendation thread started. If she does you may want to include a LINK to it and explain this to him as he would be able to leave his comments on an existing recommendation for the lady.