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To add... Angela is correct you can not "Advertise" driver services here so please PM me with a NEW name to use and I will change it (Check the members list first to make sure the name you want is not used) if your sole reason for coming on here was to become a driver and ask questions that is fine but if you use the PM system of public posts to "Advertise" or "Arrange" these services you are breaking the rules here.

You should be aware (If you have not researched this already) that being a "Driver" is considered illegal. It is considered living off the avails. Prostitution itself is legal but the lady (or person) doing the prostitution is the only one that can make money from the transaction. Some drivers in the past have been charged and really your only doing a service that many of the ladies need (We agree the laws are too restrictive and can put the ladies in danger but you should be aware that most places consider this "job" to be illegal)

Thanks Everyone. ... and I hate to say it back in the day I would take the beer but that tim's cup is great! When I am done I could put all my other tims cups in it like a waste basket! ;)

thanks cat. this post has lifted my spirits a little more. the site has grown so large that I really can't do it on my own and I have been pushing myself this last year to a breaking point. people are constantly complaining and everyone seams to feel they need to tell me how to do things. most people do not consider that they are just one person demanding my time with frivolous complaints, whining and my favorite... redundant bitching (when they just repeat themselves over and over than get pissed off when I tell them where to go or remove them) with the site growing so large we have 10 times more spammers (you rarely see these as I remove them before you ever see them... only a few get by recentlybecause some exploit exists that has not been patched yet that allows the spammers to circumvent the moderation queue) .. I would estimate 300+ spam posts are removed each month. title infractions.... we don't want the site to lookk like cl with all the crazy post titles trying to out do the next one and gain the most attention... so i have very specific rules to stop this and i use to take the time to pm each person and tell them what they did wrong... i found that even when i took the time people would ignore the pm and continue to break the rules so now i just delete the post and give them a infraction with a link to the rules.. I get people every day wasting my time asking me to elaborate on what they did wrong... did they read the link with the rules??? NO... They are just wasting my time. about 300 posts a month break this rule and more than 1/2 of them break the rule over and over again. This is disrespectful and these people do not deserve to use the site so I just keep deleting the ad posts and eventually just remove them. if they are literate enough to post an ad they can dam well read the rules or they are not welcome here. when I suspend someone (especially a SP or a male member with 50+ posts) i get people PM me (who only hear one side of the story) demanding I let them back or telling me I was wrong or calling me a dictator. These people run to the other sites and tell everyone how horrible I am (and really that did not bother me in the past but now its getting a little annoying).. FINALLY... we have those idiots who post shit like "I am affraid to post on cerb because I will get in trouble" or "I know the rule is... hopefully the mod does not remove me" or the really big idiots who want to fight with me on the site and don't think I have the balls to kick them off!! Yes, it wears on me!! Yes, I am done with it and yes I would not wish this job on anyone. Cat probably meant to post this in the PRIVATE area away from public view but we can let everyone know. I am done and I am working on a way to keep the site moving forward. We are looking for a way to have the community help moderate the site (Myself, the SP's who have SP ONLY access and the ELITE members have a private discussion thread where we are trying to come up with a solution that will keep the site moving forward and keep the integrity of the site alive. I have confidence in our members (Most of them) and I think a few should be removed who are trouble makers but I will leave that up to the people who will take my place as the decision makers. This is not open for public debate but if you are an elite member or a SP ONLY member you are welcome to comment in the private area and have your say. We would love to hear any idea's. If you are not able to see that area please DO NOT pm me. My PM is very busy and full with all this. I am willing to help the transition go forward smoothly (I am not walking away tomorrow or anything) I will continue forward and make sure the site is in good hands before I move on. I will probably always be part of the site in some sort of way (System admin, Server Admin, Software upgrades, etc... after all I am a computer guy and not a politian).

More negative publicity none of us need! Will not end well.

This is a very secure way of collecting. If you (The lady) has a registered business and you deposit stuff like this in your business account it's a good way to pass large amounts legally (I would avoid depositing such things in personal accounts and you want to have a registered business - See below as to why if you don't know already). Some trust is involved too as this has to be done ahead of time (but it does remove the fraud element for the lady as she can call your bank and confirm the wire was deposited). If it's a business account the ladies REAL name would not be used and if this is being deposited into a business account and your taxes are all in order it would be a good way to collect payments. If you don't have a registered business (and you should) see my comment further down... you can get in lots of trouble. I am not sure about alertpay (It is possible they allow adult) but most of these companies have a hold back (Usually 10-20% for up to 6 months to cover charge backs) and none would allow a actual "Escort" to provide services and use the service for escorting (at least not knowingly) Adult friendly usually means "adult sites" (porn membership sites) and stuff like that (Too high risk for the other guys). CCBILL for instance allows adult processing but the costs are WAY HIGH (look at the cost per transactions! WHEW! Not sure anyone would do this over cash). If you ask them if you can use CCBILL to collect payments for escorting I am 99% sure they would say no. Same goes with any adult processor. Business (Taxes) and Income Tax - Tempting cash based business First thing everyone should know here in Ontario is ... if you make more than 30000.00 a year you need to register for HST (and register a business). If you have more than 30000.00 a year go INTO your bank account and you do not have a T4 to show where that money came from they (The government) will assume you are self employed and not complying with tax collection laws. They will review your account to see where the money was coming from (business or personal) and they will have questions!! If your INCOME tax statement does not match what you deposited in your bank (Especially if it's over 30grand in a year period) and you will be FLAGGED if you don't have a T4 or a registered business (That you file your taxes with) to show where this money came from! They know your working as a self employed person when this happens. If you deposit such things as wire transfers, credit card payments or even deposit cash or cheques in the ABM without claiming this on INCOME tax (or again having a T4 showing your earnings in this amount). Even depositing INTERAC email money transfers is the SAME as depositing CASH into your account. If you do this ALL the time you better make sure it's in a BUSINESS bank account. If you deposit over 10000.00 by INTERAC EMAIL MONEY TRANSFER into a personal bank account in a 365 day period you will set off a flag and be reviewed. Ongoing payments from business accounts (Especially outside Canada) sources such as ccbill, paypal, alertpay, etc... and even canadian providers such as hyperwallet .. these place all have to report this to RevCan if the transactions are over 10000.00 every 365 days. If your depositing these in personal accounts and not a business accounts the FLAGS will go up as well (Even for stuff under 10000.00/yr as this sets off the flags saying your doing business and they will look for self employed income statements to be files by you - if not... the flags will go up). The government makes sure anything "LIKE CASH" (especially after 9-11) is reported to them. Wire transfers, money orders, interac, paypal, etc...etc... and if you have "CASH MONEY" (Including any of these things) being deposited into your account and that does not match what your income tax and HST / OR T4 is saying... you will be investigated for non compliance if you do not file income tax properly (and HST if over 30000.00 per 365 day period of income being deposited into your bank accounts). Every bank account transaction you make the government can see and any transaction over 10000.00 is reported "per transaction" and I beleive that any bank account balance over 10000.00 is also reported regularly. Every dollar that you put into your bank ... please make sure it shows on your income tax and if it's over 30000.00 a year make sure you pay your HST as well. I know it's tempting to collect cash and never report it (I am sure some of you do this not knowing of how the system works fully) all I can say is if this is your only job you should register a business and pay income taxes. If your depositing money into a bank or holding onto it off the grid as cash only... your screwing yourself along with the government as your robbing yourself of some things that have great rewards in life... Such as... 1) You will not be able to get a loan without insane high risk interest rates. 2) Credit cards that are not "Pay as you go" 3) You will not be able to buy a house (Can't pay for a mortgage with cash or get a mortgage without showing some sort of income - even with a deposit and a high risk mortgage that you do not have to show your income the deposit and mortgage payments are all reported) 4) You will not be able to do anything where the funds are reported (Purchasing a car over 10000.00 in cash required the transaction be reported) - Even a personal sale (Used cars under 10G are the only option) 5) You will pretty much need to live off the grid (and that sucks as you miss out of a lot of stuff doing that). 6) and I am sure MUCH more... This day and age it would be VERY hard to live off the grid. You would be renting your home (In the long run taxes paid are actually much LESS than what you are loosing by not purchasing real estate and you can forget about retirement income!) - Sure many only plan to do this job for a few years but why not start building a business and credit over the next few years so when you leave the business you have something out of it! I am saying all this as many of the ladies don't realize this - many end up in the business for MANY years more than what they planned. I know a number of escorts now (and a few agencies) who have been audited because they had homes and cars and failed to pay taxes and deposited cash into bank accounts to pay these bills. It's stressful and not worth it. As tempting as it may be to not report your income since it is a cash business... it really does leave you in a bad situation. Many book keepers and accountants will meet with you and explain how to do this business on the books and reap the benefits. Benefits do exist and business credit history with the banks on a business account has some BIG benefits as well... Some ladies have even told me they do not feel they should have to pay income tax as it's such a personal service (Comparing to the stay at home "Wife" thing or girlfriend who is pampered with gifts and a "Allowance") and as much as I agree it is not fair... the tax man will see it as a business when your escorting and it's very hard to explain the income as "Gifts".

I find it easier myself... and CTRL+F is your friend...

format and reinstall.... keep kids off business computer.

if pay pal or alert pay get wind that she is an escort the account is closed and funds suspended for 6 months as that is against the terms of service with credit cards the guy can request a chargeback up to a year after the purchase and claim it was made fraudulently fake credit cards are a big concern non tangible (service) transactions as no shipping reciept or documentation is made. credit cards take 2% to 5% of the transaction and the list goes on... I am shocked any of them ever consider this. the guy needs togo to the abm and draw money his card if he wished to use the card money... everything else comes at great risk to the lady and in urrs more costs to her.

Yes, it shows up 5 times on tineye now (Previously I recall only one link) but obvious fake.

I should state that it is a MINIMUM 7 day suspension (If anyone has a track record of having to be warned about other stuff... the suspension would be longer of course).

Looks like we noticed that at the same time...

One more thing... You have 500+ posts on here and all you had to do was ask me for access and to review your account. You have no complaints against your account and I would have given you access based on your account here up to this date. When someone asks me about the SP ONLY area this is the "Canned" response I send them. ... To gain access to the SP ONLY area you need one of the following... 1) Have someone who has access already and knows you personally VOUCH for you. Anyone with SERVICE PROVIDER written under their name has access but they need to have met you personally. 2) Another option is to have an ad on Escorts-Canada.com (A paid Profile ad with photos) and it must be online for at least 14 days with no complaints. If you have a past ad on escorts-canada that is no longer online we can stil Tl use that as a reference. You will need to open a support ticket on escorts-canada and ask for access to the SP ONLY area on cerb (Include your CERB alias with this ticket) http://escorts-canada.com/support 3) Substantial post history on cerb, at least 50 or more posts over 4 or more months so you can establish a presence on cerb. By this time some members will post recommendations about you and have general discussions about you. We do not allow agencies (or ladies who work for agencies) access to the SP ONLY area. You can NOT share information or copy and post information from the SP ONLY area to other sites. If you disclose any information to anyone outside of the SP ONLY area you loose your membership on cerb (including access to this area). We consider this area highly confidential. By asking for access you are agreeing to these terms. ... I would have given you access but I am struggling here as your comment about EC has me feeling a little set back and I can not help but take that comment personally so I would like an explanation first before I decide. The SP ONLY Area is a privileged area (Not a right) and it is yet ANOTHER thing escorts-canada has put together to help the ladies out. Making a comment just seams so ungrateful and really I am not sure yet what to make of this. I will give you a change to explain this comment before I make a decision.

Posting publicly that you need someone to VOUCH for you is not going to work - in fact if anyone was to VOUCH for you at this time I would have to consider that request very carefully as your asking people to vouch for you here who have never met you since your posting this in public!? In order for the ladies to VOUCH for you they need to know you personally. (Have met you physically in person). If anyone was to VOUCH for you and NOT know you personally they would be at risk of compromising all the ladies security in the SP ONLY area. They would also be held responsible if you were not who you claimed to be and that lady would loose her membership as well! By your comments above and the approach you are taking I doubt the ladies who have SP ONLY access will wish to invite you in at this time ... A explanation as to why you would not consider placing an ad on EC would be appreciated as well... (Since your so adamant about not doing so).

I just removed a post off CERB for someone offering outdoor services. LADIES AND GUYS - PROSTITUTION IN A PUBLIC PLACE IS ILLEGAL IN CANADA We can not promote such things on CERB and LADIES you should NOT be offering this on a public forum as it will draw unwanted attention!!

I very much disagree with this. We have received a LOT of feedback over the years from the guys (Most guys will complain before they let others know of something good going on - at EC when someone is caught bait and switching we do hear about it and many are soured from the experience and comments clearly indicate that it has turned many of them off of this business). Also... EVERY penny the scammers make off CL fuels them to continue to do it. and... IT takes money from the honest ladies who deserve it!! I have said all I care to on this subject. Think what you will, justify what you need to and convince yourself it's fine if that is what you must do. Just really analyze it (Pro's and Con's) for you personally, the industry as a whole present and future. I think giving the pimps, underage girls, scams, bait and switchers, credit card theives, etc... a place they can openly get away with this (AND YOU ALL SUPPORTING THIS PLACE) is BAD. Again.. not all of you agree and so far NONE of your points have made me change my mind on this subject. It BOGGLES my mind that some of you think this is ok... but nothing I can do about that. Live in the now and forget about the future... we all know how well that way of thinking works. I just hope I have got the wheels turning for some and they say "Holy Crap we are fueling this problem and supporting a place that allows all this to happen to us". If it was moderated and they got rid of the problem people that abuse it I would support it. You all know where I stand on the subject and I have warned everyone of what will come of it here and for the industry.

that would be in your cache then. open dns does some localhost thing when they mark a site (block a site). so a reboot would also flush your cache. why do you google cerb? why not just type it i to your address bar?

I believe if you have a combines household income over 40grand you do not qualify. yeah it's crap! I don't even get my bribe money!?

A few ladies have been reported this week for using the PM system to send UNSOLICITED pm's asking if the guy wants to see them! Guys! Report these PM's to me please as this is not permitted here. Every PM has a REPORT THIS icon at the top right. Click it and let me know you have never had any previous discussions with this lady about acquiring her service. This is Unsolicited PM's and I can look it up if I need to and verify that you have never contacted her by PM in the past. Ladies you will get a 7 day suspension (Without Warning) for doing this. The second time you are caught doing this you will be asked to leave the site. (Your account will be closed) This is ABUSE to the PM system so please DO NOT DO THIS. Your just making the guys MAD at you for SPAMMING them!!

Try to flush your local cache (To do this go to a command prompt and type ipconfig /flushdns To get to a Command prompt you must click RUN from your start menu (Pre Windows7) or in Windows7 just click the start and type CMD in the search box. This will open a DOS prompt window where you would type ipconfig /flushdns You should get the following Successfully flushed the DNS Resolver Cache. For anyone using a MAC or for more information on this click below. http://www.opendns.com/support/article/209 You can simply ADD cerb.ca to your whitelist as well in your OpenDNS account I switched my DNS over to the openDNS servers to see for myself I nothing happened. I can not duplicate this error. Does this happen on the main page of cerb http://www.cerb.ca or does this happen on a specific page on cerb? Like this page for instance http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33389 I suspect this started when the spammers found a way to circumvent the moderation queue here. The spammers found a way to post and force the post to SKIP the moderation so that I can't erase it before it is posted live on the site. Seams like every day we get one of these posts (Usually I delete them before anyone ever see's them) These posts contain links that probably go to nasty virus infected sites so openDNS has probably blocked cerb because it found cerb contains links to this site. OpenDNS can also block ADULT content sites. Cerb.ca is tagges as ADULT THEMES http://domain.opendns.com/cerb.ca If I find out what page your getting this warning on I will switch over to OpenDNS again myself and see if I can duplicate the error. One last thing, Can you confirm you are using these DNS server with OpenDNS? 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

I think we may have a problem here... when the site crashed and we lost those PM's the photos table had a crash too and we almost lost all the photos. I had to move the photos out of the DB and into the file structure. I think this has caused a problem with this feature. No idea how to fix it but I will see what I can do when I get some free time. Looks like it will not be an easy fix.

No, the recommendation pics should be working for upload (You need to get the ladies permission and upload the photo she gives you permission to use). Someone else was having problems with the upload part however so we may have an issue. I will look into it more when I get some free time and see if I can upload a photo.

is anyone else getting this message??

Good reviews can not be used to slander someone, damage the ladies business, hurt a ladies self esteem or hurt her feelings. Bad reviews do! We are not dealing with tangible items here - these are real human beings so grading the ladies like a piece of meat or picking out all the shortcomings is just mean and easily exploited. Cerb will have NO part in that and you will never see negative reviews here. If you do (they can slip by at times) or any hurtful comments just REPORT THE POST and I will remove the posts! I have ZERO tolerance for anything like that and I don't care how beneficial some of the guys think that would be... We would close the site before allowing such things.

Others disagree but why not a combo of EC and CERB? The following is not directed at Meg but to all SP's.... escorts-canada brings a higher quality of customer overall (Much less headache clients that you find on bargain hunter sites like CL - You know the ones you all complain about. We don't screen the men for you but FAR less guys go to a site like EC looking for a cheap date!) EC keeps the ladies very busy without the need for CL or other sites for many. Best of all it helps support CERB where you all obviously do great business from as well... and most importantly it keeps me employed so the cerb site stays running and continues to improve. As others have mentioned if you appreciate cerb and it brings you customers you can show your support by running a ad on escorts-canada (It's a win-win situation as it will benefit you as it will bring customers to you and it supports the sites that have integrity!!) and we do not have a DONATE button or anything like that. The rule in most business is you have to spend money to make money (That is apparently not true in this business as places like CL do bring money for free - it's only your time and headache that is costing you.... but sites like EC and cerb who fight for integrity and showing the industry in a positive way do deserve some support and many of you do help support us (and its' very much appreciated) I just wish more would see why it's important for the long term! Thank you Naomi! Your comment is very much appreciated. Thanks Pete, and yes I am not berating anyone. I said "I don't blame the ladies for advertising on CL" but they need to be aware (and so do the guys) that supporting that site is hurting the industry that we are trying so hard to make better for everyone. It's like waving a a steak in front of an hungry bear... it's not a matter of "IF" it's a matter of "WHEN" sites like EC start to loose enough ground to places like CL .. if that happens and revenue drops the first place to cut costs would logically be anything and everything that runs at a loss (CERB). Thanks SA. I think cerb is being taken for granted from a number of people. I am (admittedly) becoming jaded with some people from certain comments made. I would think this would be common sense and I may be wrong. I hope more people choose to support cerb and EC and that I am wrong about the direction of the business. I really hope I am wrong but I doubt I am. I am hoping that the legal battle that CL is facing right now is going to CRUSH them and collapse the site. We work too hard to make sure the bad apples stay off cerb and ec so to have someone as powerful as CL come and allow the site to be exploited this way is horrible and having so many people support CL is just a BIG KICK IN THE FACE as we try to hard to ensure integrity and apparently many people have no interest in that. Those scammers, bait and switchers, pimps, sex traffickers, etc... that LOVE CL so much are taking money out of our industry and leaving a trail of very DISAPPOINTED men that many of them may NEVER hire a SP again as they will just assume that is how this business works!! You may not do business this way but if you support a site that does your not helping the problem! WHO LOOSES???? (Answer: We all do)