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This post is from 2007... and why would you not call PK to ask your questions. Jason says all the time to call him.

I agree with Ava, that is uncalled for! This is not the board for insulting comments, not much will get you tossed out of here quicker.

Yes, it is much more frustrating when the long time members do it. Especially when they break the big rules. One well know member was mad cause I would not let him post about 30.00 bj's (obvious street worker who may have set up a temporary incall type place)... I tried to explain that this just pisses off all the ladies here (who we want to have on the site). He felt that offering this information was beneficial to the site and gave him more credibility with the guys (and maybe it does with some)... but the truth is when someone comes and lowballs all the ladies here with 30.00 bj's it just turns the ladies off of the site and in the long run no one should want a 30.00 bj as you know that lady is probably working the street or doing this part time and taking money out of the pockets of the full time career ladies we have here. Well.. this member was pissed at me for censoring him and has not posted since. I guess he felt that since he was so well liked here by the guys and such a well know member that he should be allowed to do stuff like this. He learned the hard way I guess. I am hoping he gets over it and eventually comes back and gets involved again with the community and realizes that street prices are not welcome on a escort site like this. We need to protect the ladies that contribute here on the site and that includes not allowing cheap priced ladies undercut everyone with street level prices. It's not fair to the ladies (and I think it makes the site look cheap and classless when threads are geared towards low priced services). I was ashamed that so many of our regular members jumped in asking for the ladies contact info. We lost about 10 of the ladies when this was posted (and trust me many of the ladies voiced their opinions about this, some demanded I remove it, some cry'd foul cause he was a well know members and many asked me why I would allow such a thing). The truth is I was away for that weekend and I came back to the site and found this HUGE thread for 30.00 bj's. In part it was my fault as the first time a thread like this was posted it was explained that the lady was trying to get on her feet and make money for a apartment to do incalls so she did not need to work the street. I even spoke with that lady (we know her as "Eve" here on cerb). The ladies were very mad about this one as well but I explained when asked that I allowed this as she was doing this for just a short time to make enough money to get a apartment where she could work from. (I felt we were helping someone out who wanted to get off the street) to me I thought that would be ok (but it was not - I took a lot of heat over it) so I said no to any future posts like that... no more lowball discount rate focused posts. Thankfully after about 6 months we saw some of the ladies return and start to post again but some have never returned and some were just REALLY MAD. Some recently told me how they were pissed off with me for allowing the Eve posts and when they saw I removed the last 30.00bj thread that I redeemed myself and the site. Man it's hard to please everyone! Really who wouldn't want to help someone get off the street? 30.00 bbbj's was a little excessive and Eve quickly raised her prices as well... I suspect a number of people took advantage of her situation and I think it took a while for her to realize that she did not have to lowball her rates like that. I am sure a few of you who replied to that 30bj thread got blacklisted from some of the sp's as well because you took interest in the girl just based on price. A lot of the ladies were VERY disgusted that someone was doing this online - even more so that a popular member was promoting this and further more that a lot of you jumped in on this thread wanting to see this person (Just based on price and nothing said about quality of services). Street prices really has NO Place online posting with escorts... if you see posts like this on any site (or CL) you can be sure the lady is a street walker (Probably a pimp or someone trying to "help" is posting this for her). Ladies who do this can not offer good service and still pay the bills and put some money in their own pocket for nice things... for 30.00 they would have to see 5 or more clients per hour in ratio...and you just know that no one could maintain that and be happy. Chances are the pimp is talking the 30.00 and she get's none of it. It's just taking advantage on another persons bad situation really when you do that and I would like to say we are all above that... maybe one day.

Congratulations Anessa and everyone else who was nominated and voted for.

Congratulations Antlerman (and doobdude) and of course everyone who was nominated!

Yup, He has no clue.

I merged them all into one thread.

This should probably have been made in the Recommendations area. Please feel free to make one for her http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=143

The system already keeps track of what you have and have not read (Why you can click the "New Posts" link at the top of the site to read everything new since your last visit. This is just a hack into that subsystem to see if you have read the vote poll page... if not it requests that you read it. I could not get it to force someone to vote... only to read the vote thread.

Cerb is Canadian, in the USA prostitution is illegal unlike here in Canada where it is legal so you may have some trouble finding such a public forum.

He is actually serious about this? LOL :shock: - Money talks.. offer the ladies twice their regular hourly rate and I am sure someone may consider it. Could be a very expensive fetish you have.

Well I say the mandatory thread review program I installed did the trick! Good to see it's working... (Pats self on back).

I have added a little feature to the site that should boost this. During the last day of the poll here everyone who logs into the site will be required to read the two voting threads before continuing into the site.

last day to vote!

last day to vote!

Thanks, many of you do appreciate this and many have PM'd me as well so I want to thank everyone who took the time to let me know that my efforts are appreciated. I think I have some tough choices to make come the new year but for now I need a break from the site. One of the other staff here is going to watch over the site for a few months (At least till the new year) so I can get some other projects done and most importantly so I can enjoy my free time once again. We will see how I feel when I come back in regards to the contributions and this will let us see how the site does without my contributions for a few months as well. (Trial period). These days it's really just easier to click the ban button then to invest the time to try to be all diplomatic as that does not ever seam to pan out. I try to be nice and diplomatic and I end up at the same outcome 99.9% of the time. I will of course check in and help whoever is going to moderate the site in the upcoming months if they need my help. The person (or persons) who will be doing this has not been determined yet - hopefully later in the week we will have a plan for this.

Amelia has been suspended - for how long it is not determined but long enough for her to realize that what she did today will not be tolerated no matter how much the guys like her. This site is a valuable FREE resource for the ladies and the men and when you crap on the guy who works so hard to keep it nice safe place ... I will show you my appreciation by suspending you. Why would anyone think it is ok to challenge the administrator of a site like this? Really do you not think you will get booted? Come on people... wise up. Annessa did apologize (and is why she is still here) but Amelia chose a different path... one she is probably regretting now. As for my posts, my thoughts, my help and my advise... I have decided to stop commenting on the threads on cerb this way as it is obviously too difficult to maintain a certain "administrative" figure when people feel they can fight with me in public like this. I think over the years I have contributed a lot to the board and I need to sit back and just moderate the site now. I must maintain the authoritative figure on the site and the popular ladies (as well as the popular guys) should be very aware that if they break the rules or publicly try to discredit me (or the site) they will be instantly REMOVED from the site. Very plain... very simple... and yes maybe I was a little harsh but some people are getting a little too comfortable if they think they can say whatever they want about me or the way I run things here. I know some of you do not agree with how I do things but remember you do not always know all the facts and this is why I must stay neutral and I must be the one that makes these choices. Obviously some of you feel that it would be ok to challenge my choices here (Call me out, give me attitude, disrespect me, etc...) I assure you it is not ok and anyone who wishes to test that will indeed be taught a lesson. Katedot... your post above was deleted and it earned you a 30 day suspension as well - Does anyone else wish to tell me how to run the site? Challenge me? Disrespect me? Etc...? If so you can join Katedot and Amelia.

The good ole days of overclocking my cpu's... I stopped after melting a cpu into the motherboard. No need really with the power these systems have these days I would take a few nanoseconds over a unstable platform any day - especially with the dual video 1G+ cards that do most of the processing on board the cards now. The boot time would be nice however... I have considered a flash memory instant boot setup. My friend tried to set it up on his PC a year or so ago and said it still takes about 16 seconds to boot (not every instant) but it's better then the standard boot time I guess.

Careful you guys don't discredit this lady here. . Unless you know she is bait and switching or doing something bad you must ensure that you don't hurt her business by making comments here on this thread. I think a number of guys are Jaded with the whole CL thing as it's FULL of scams and bait and switch (hard to beleive that anyone is legit) but legit ladies do advertise on CL as well. Your comment "she hangs with a crew" are you saying this because she posts on CL or because you know that she is working with some people who are not honorable? Either way if you are not 100% sure she is not legit you should not be having this conversation on cerb publicly as you could be damaging this persons business.

WhoA! Please don't blow stuff like that out of proportion and twist my comments like that!! Are you really trying to say that I am backing the media stereotypes? Serious? Me??? Wow.. short memory! Have you not read ANY of my posts on this site?? Your twisting what I said and just throwing in "drug addicts who are "forced" into the industry" into your comment (this is called adding weight to your argument - this is exactly what the media does.. what you are doing to me right now). Either discuss the topic maturely (and rationally) or we close the topic and move on. Attacking my character because you do not agree or like something I said is not cool. If you beleive that crap you should leave the site and if you plan on sticking around you should reconsider your comment and apologize for attacking my reputation like that publicly. and comments like "those are the handfull of girls on here.....not the proper ones" Are you kidding me? Someone needs to take your high horse away the arrogance is too much. The new ladies just need to learn how the business works. They should be just as welcome as you are. I am sure you did not start in this business knowing everything... like everything it has a learning curve and yes, cerb is a place to HELP them learn and HELP them not make mistakes like this. If you are too "proper" to help the new ladies that is your choice but it's not a supportive choice and that comment makes you look bad. P.S. OP should NOT PM the name of the lady, that would be using cerb to slander someone - this is NOT a place for negative reviews on the ladies. Doing that would go against everything we work hard here to do. You have no idea if OP is telling the truth or not. Who's trying to go against everything we do here to protect the ladies? UNreal!

Curious if anyone has tried Windows7 home premium running in 64bit version yet? I am considering doing the upgrade this upcoming weekend but don't actually know anyone who has attempted this yet from 65bit home premium vista to windows7... ghost first.

For sure they should expect courtesy (Not to sure about it being a right) but they should feel that they have the right to ask to silence the phone that is ringing over and over again during the time. If the agreed on date included some special outfit and the lady agreed in advance on the outfit then the guy should really say "I think you forgot about the outfit you promised to wear for me" (along the lines of what Annessa had commented earlier on) and if she can not deliver a apology and explanation that she forgot would be expected and appreciated and maybe even a refund as she is not holding up her end of the agreement. I doubt it was a intentional bait and switch... more likely it was a "oops, I don't pay enough attention to my clients needs and requests and I am very unorganized..." (some of the ladies have the attitude that "my looks and sex is what the guy is paying for and that should be enough" ... and for many guys this is true and fine with them as they do not expect anything more). Angela said it best "Forgetting even part of a request in the working world can mean the difference between been employed or unemployed, so for me it has become ingrained." - Learned behavior from real world experience. Some of you expect that all the ladies should somehow be professional career women (without the formal training). You expect the ladies to have a whole tool box full of business skills and public relations skills. Trust me, that is the exception to the rule and your setting yourself up for disappointment!! Some of the ladies do have these skills but the majority don't - and most who do have it have either learned it by being in the business for MANY years or they have prior "REAL WORLD / CORPORATE" work experience. Why would you ever expect such things? To me it would be a added bonus if the lady had these skills but I would not expect them to have them. In my world I need to know such things as ROI, marketing, logistics ... some of you know what these things are and the ladies who know what these things are really clean up in this business. Now you don't need university or college to work with our company (a self taught graphic artist or self taught computer programmer is always a better choice than a text book educated person if you ask me) so I would not expect someone to come working with us and to know what these things are on your first day... but I am sure you would not last long with our company if you did not learn and understand these skills over time and we would take the time to teach these things to the new member of our team. Mandalay and Angela obviously both have regular job history (and obviously know about expectations of customers and employers). It's easy to forget that many of the ladies in this business DO NOT have this history.

Yes Amelia I would agree that a "GOOD SP" would re-read the emails and be more organized but some would not care about this as long as the lady was pretty and excited them. We all have different standards and we all have things that bother us and things we can overlook. We all do not all put the same "VALUE" on such things as adequate or organization skills. It's like the people who come onto cerb and try to correct bad grammar in posts (Grammar Police). Most of the ladies here are not highly educated (a good portion are but we have a lot of high school drop outs as well) but that is the nature of this business. I personally have horrible grammar and I don't care as I do not value grammar like others do... but those who do value grammar look down at people like me. If they expect everyone to value grammar the same as they do they are just setting themselves up for a life of disappointment! You may NATURALLY have the ability to be this organized but a lot of people DO NOT have this skill naturally and it takes time to learn (if at all possible as some people are not able to learn such things). You may have grown up with parents who took the time to tech you respect and manners (Both are learned behaviors)... not everyone was lucky enough to have this guidance... some will need to learn this late in life (and that is not always easy). I feel that every generation becomes a little less polite then the previous. Maybe it is because we have such things as high divorce rates and dual income families, etc... parents are too busy to properly teach their kids, some parents don't have these skills to begin with, some parents are too young to have these kids, etc.... so kids are not being taught these values at home like they were in the 50's and prior when the woman would stay home with the kids. Cell phones are no longer luxury items, these younger people have grown up with them as part of the culture now (They are taken for granted) and etiquette that we "Older" folk expect from cell phone users is sometimes not even a consideration. (and it should be - I agree). You obviously are organized, polite and have a good business sense... you may come by this naturally but I assure you... many people don't. This lady may have the potential to be a great SP (and is doing enough things right that she is getting some praise by guys who may not have expectations like stevecurious has but she may never learn without enough people pointing out what she is doing wrong. You are either "book smart" or "experience smart" (Formal training or time)... the exception to the rule is that you naturally have good business sense (and this is surely a exception to the rule). If you really think every SP (even the new ladies just getting into the business) should naturally be well organized with proper etiquette and manners you will be disappointed. Let me state the obvious... -You do not need college education to be a SP (Or high school for that matter) -You do not receive training for this job -You do not need to have a resume to get a job in this business -You do not need to pass any test or exam to qualify being a SP Many ladies (Like Amelia for example) seam to get it! They realize that having your phone ring during the session is bad (and she may have known this on her first date or she may have learned this over time - I am not sure) - same with organization (She may naturally be organized, she may have some admin skills from a past job or formal training) but this NOT the case with everyone. Maybe I am the only one who will actually come out and say this... Many of the NEW ladies (New to the business) really have no clue about how to conduct themselves, how to run a business, market themselves, etc... they will either learn this over time and some never learn. Either way they will still succeed in this business (It's just that kind of business) but the ones who "Get it" and learn how to work the business properly will obviously do much better. Keep in mind that a lot of ladies (NOT ALL) turn to this business not because they LOVE the BUSINESS but because they have very little choice! The REALLY GREAT ladies LOVE THE BUSINESS!

Hi Rosalie. we have a SP ONLY (Private area) with a BAD DATE list here on cerb. PM me about gaining access to this area. This is not the appropriate place to post into like this so I am closing this thread but if you wish to post a bulletin to warn other ladies when this sort of thing happens the SP ONLY area is the place to do this.

Did you say "Would you mind putting that into silent mode so we can enjoy our time together without interruption"? I know you should not have to do this... She should obviously know better but a lot of the ladies do not have a copy of the "How to conduct your escort business" handbook (they are in short supply!)... and very few of the ladies have any formal business training and expected to be completely professional (Often this is way to high to set your expectations unless you are dating ladies who have been in the business for many years). Now... Iknow a number of ladies in the business with formal business training (None out your way but Toronto and Ottawa have ladies who are very "Business" oriented. Some even have MBa's and I even know a lady with a doctorate in physiology and formal business training who worked in the business for many years in Toronto to pay for school and loved the business so much she continued for a number of years in the business after school as well so the ladies who would meet all these expectations do exist. I always loved talking with her as she have such a incredible mind for business! My advise, don't go see this lady again (at least not for a year or two) and keep up your search till you find someone that does fulfill all your needs and requirements... then you should recommend that lady here!! Many of the ladies are learning as they go. We need to make them aware that these things are bad if they are oblivious to them. Try to do a nice thing and help them understand where they went wrong (Politely of course).