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Although a negative context this post is acceptable as it is a problem that many of the ladies do face and discussing it should help them see that this is very important to the men and in this case it looks like the lady may have lost a potential repeat client. Hopefully this lady sees this thread (you may even want to send her a quick email explaining why you are disappointed, show her your original request if in the form of a email and show her a link to this thread)... She will be thankful you did not "call her out" and maybe she will learn that promised client requests that go undelivered can end up costing them repeat business (or substantial tips). Thank you for not naming names here and trying to address a problem without pointing a finger. Remember even a highly recommended lady will not be perfect for everyone - and even the best ladies forget special requests once in a while by mistake (or even miss appointments) we are all human don't forget. ... and we are all different people with different tastes and interests. These ladies are often VERY busy, I Know this is not an excuse but keep in mind that you are emailing one lady and chances are you are 1 of 20 or more other men are also emailing her questions on the same day. Between doing calls, scheduling, advertising, etc.. it does get confusing and things get lost or missed. I know I am guilty of forgetting to do things customers ask of me, sometimes I will get a email with 3 or 4 requests and I will end up doing all but one of the requests (Just too busy at the time and I overlook some part of the request - this happens a lot when the customer writes LONG WINDED emails that are very time consuming). Of course, one way to make sure the ladies remember your "special requests" is to have a "normal" short date with them first with no special requests (see if you click) and if you enjoyed your time give her a very NICE tip and suggest another meeting (Maybe a multi hour meeting) and mention your request... you would be a repeat customer now and repeat customers with most of the ladies get a little extra attention! If you were a gentleman and a generous person I bet your next appointment would be even more delightful. The ladies will remember the guys who treat them well (both in regards to respect and generosity)

I agree! Clean out your PM's for heavens sake... delete the SEND ITEMS as well people. LOL... (I am one to talk as I have 2553 messages currently in box... I am going to go delete some now while I am thinking about it...)

The girls can do this because Ottawa has a huge problem with no shows and so far the ladies have been really good with helping each other track down these time wasters. Some guys seam to get off on booking appointments and not showing up for them. I have had to boot a number of guys off cerb for this. Now I don't boot anyone off for missing one date (accidents happen) but when 10 ladies jump in and say "Yeah, he did that to me too" than he gets the boot of course. Sometimes someone will post about a guy... and a day later she will post again and let everyone know that he contacted her and had a legit reason for missing the call. Sometimes other ladies will jump in and say "I have met with that guy a number of times with no issues" and it helps prove it was not intentional. So basically... the ladies police this area themselves and do a VERY good job of it. I don't need to moderate that side of the board and I am proud to say it does not get abused. All the legit guys who show up for dates, don't waste the ladies time, don't get violent or creepy, don't stalk the ladies, etc... well you may not realize it but you all benefit from this site of the site as well.

left click on the persons name and click "Send a PM" or use your UserCP area and it has message options as well.

We hear about this more then I would like to admit (Not just a Christmas but I suspect it is a more popular time for would be thieves to prey on the ladies) EVERY year (Not just Ottawa - Winnipeg and Vancouver seam to be the worst with Ottawa a close third for reports that we get about this). We hear about this happening from at least 2 of our clients each year and when you think about it... that is a lot for us (since we are just the advertising company for the ladies) we usually only hear about it when the lady gets so scared and shaken up over it that she needs to pull her ads and take time off! How many times does it happen without us ever hearing about it? I have had ladies call just in tears asking us to remove her ad because she needs to take time off to recover from being robbed... The traumatic stress would be hard to deal with and even worse some even tell us they were physically assaulted. Back when I answered the phones for escorts-canada I use to always try to help. I would be sure to ask the lady if she insisted on using caller ID (No blocked calls) and that she called back to confirm each number (Make sure it was not a payphone or some stolen phone - call back to verify before the date to make sure he answers the phone).. In EVERY instance the answer was always no, they did not bother screening calls. I like to hope that they all do now after I explain how people would prey on those who did not take these extra safety precautions. I think the thieves who do this are going to cold call (shop around) to find the "Easy prey". I have even heard from a few ladies that the guy paid them, they did their thing and then he robbed her not only taking back him money but everything else he could get from her. We have some horrible people in this world and fortunately these people are far and few between but they do exist and they do prey on others... and the minute you let your guard down could be the minute they show up. Theft and assault can (and does) happen in pretty much every business and no one is really safe... but in this industry because of the laws that govern here in Canada it makes the ladies even more vulnerable and makes it a much easier target to be exploited. Did you know you can "Spoof" a phone number on caller ID (Making people see a number that looks legit and is not) - always CALL BACK that number showing on caller ID - tell the guy you will call him back within the hour before the meeting (or something like that) your instincts on her response should pretty much say it all. Chances are the guy who plans on robbing someone is not going to take the chance (even with a pre-paid phone) and will probably find someone who does not verify phone numbers to rob. He will probably have some lame excuse for not having a verifiable phone number.. trust your instincts! A lot of ladies choose not to verify phone numbers still to this day. WHY? Some even give out the location of their incall place as well to strangers over the phone without verifying who they really are. If any of the ladies reading this do this you should STOP... you are taking a unnecessary risk and your setting yourself up for being a target for something like this to happen.

Please DO NOT focus conversations on "Prices" or "CHEAP" services. If you wish to discuss prices you can do so in private but please don't even ask about price on the public board. Prices are subject to change at any time and it is not appropriate to post prices publicly - the ladies can do this themselves if they wish to make that info public.

I merged these two posts and Wade, comments like this " they apparently will be targetting SPs online so watch out ladies and possibly us guys too. " sound like you are trying to scare people more than give them a heads up. We already have the media to try to scare everyone and blow everything out of proportion (as news is not so exciting these days) so please keep this in mind when you regurgate something you read. It really does not help the industry.

Your not stuck. The new macs are INTEL based so you can DUAL BOOT them with windows and you can also run a program called Parallels in coherence mode that allows you to windows and mac at the same time (same desktop) as if they were once computer. this does not make your computer safe from windows virus's so make sure you use your MAC copy of firefox (or whatever browser you use) so you get the mac security when surfing the net... using a MAC email client would be a good idea too.. (easy to post over office outlook or any other client you use on your curren windows computer) oops your right... I fixed it. Thanks.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THE VIDEO INDICATOR IS FOR The VIDEO indicator is if they have a VIDEO attached to the ad (like Oshean and Joyful Spirit have) Same with AUDIO (A voice ad is attached so you can hear the ladies voice ad) ... if they allow you to tape them it would be in the description if they made this info public but that check mark is NOT for that reason.

I like AVG, it does not slow your system down like Norton and Mcafee (and others) do. I recommend it to everyone as a great low overhead free anti virus solution. I also recommend Linux to anyone who is just browsing the internet or doing simple spreadsheets and stuff... and of course I would recommend a MAC if you have the cash. Both Linux and Mac are unix based systems and if your not running the MAC specific software you may as well go with linux. Many other unix based operating systems exist as well (any one of which are better then Windows when it comes to virus's and most will run on a PC) Keep in mind that you still are not 100% safe as unix systems (including macs) as they can get unix virus's/rootkits ... good news is a lot less virus's exist so you are much safer just because of the numbers. Be warned that with MAC's becoming more popular these days they are going to get more virus's and bad stuff that taget that OS... If MAC's ever became as popular as PC's they would be just as popular to write virus's for (and they are becoming more and more popular all the time) but when someone is going to take the time to write a virus code they want the biggest BANG for the time they invest (and PC's are the biggest target) For just browsing the internet and doing spreadsheets/word docs/etc... a unix (Linux) install is the way to go, especially if you have a older PC kicking around that is brutally slow running windows... it will run Linux much faster and would be perfect for browsing the net! Windows based virus's can't hurt the unix machines - unix based virus's can however (and that includes the macs) Anyone who wants the MAC look and security without the price and does not care about running MAC specific software (just the unix software) here is a tip (but not for the newbie)... Apple heads up a openSource project called Darwin (Unix) and if you add the "Aqua GUI" to it you pretty much get the MAC OSX look and feel (but Mac software will not run on it of course) you can run openoffice and firefox so you can do all the office work use it for email and surf the web... and it feels like a mac. Darwin is available for a x86 platform (but it does not run on all PC's) so if you try with no luck.. give linux a try too on that old PC (I prefer ubuntu linux myself to install for all my non-linux friends - it's friendly as far as linux goes and it's a stable OS). Darwin is based on FreeBSD/NetBSD and Mac OS X is based on Darwin but of course MAC will not release a full openSource version of OSX as everyone would be installing OSX on PC's... and as much as that sounds like a good idea, trust me it's not... A normal PC runs OSX just as crappy as it runs WINDOWS because of the mix match of hardware in your PC. Windows is bloated and full of crap because it has to run on all sorts of hardware configurations (where MAC's are all built the same so they don't need all the other crap). If you start installing new hardware into your MAC that is aftermarket hardware you will start having the same problems all the PC's have.

Sorry. I did have Canuckhooker twice. So if anyone who already voted would like to place a vote for Capitalman just PM me and I will add a vote for him to your votes in the database as you will not be able to re-vote. Sorry Cap! Was a late night.

VOTE NOW! MENS POLL LADIES POLL Sorry could not put them on the same thread.

The SP-AWARD (Pink One) is for the ladies who are part of our community here on cerb. A recognition award for the ladies who take time to participate and contribute in the forums and chat areas. Requirements This is not an award for best service (that is what the recommendations sections are for) this is a award to recognize the service providers who join in the conversations, help answer some questions and give you a little view into the other side of the business! - - - - - - - PLEASE READ - - - - - - - To solve previous problems this will be the LADIES award for SP's who contribute on the site and at the same time this award runs we will also run the VALUED MEMBER awards (For the men). This will solve all the problems we had in the past (I HOPE). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The SP-AWARD (Pink One) is for the ladies who are part of our community here on cerb. A recognition award for the ladies who take time to participate and contribute in the forums and chat areas. Requirements This is not an award for best service (that is what the recommendations sections are for) this is a award to recognize the service providers who join in the conversations, help answer some questions and give you a little view into the other side of the business! - - - - - - - PLEASE READ - - - - - - - To solve previous problems this will be the LADIES award for SP's who contribute on the site and at the same time this award runs we will also run the VALUED MEMBER awards (For the men). This will solve all the problems we had in the past (I HOPE). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The VALUED MEMBER AWARD (Burgundy One) is for the hobbyists who are part of our community here on cerb. A recognition award for the guys who take time to participate and contribute. Requirements - - - - - - - PLEASE READ - - - - - - - To solve previous problems this will be the LADIES award for SP's who contribute on the site and at the same time this award runs we will also run the VALUED MEMBER awards (For the men). This will solve all the problems we had in the past (I HOPE). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - YOU CAN VOTE FOR AS MANY AS YOU LIKE!!

The VALUED MEMBER AWARD (Burgundy One) is for the hobbyists who are part of our community here on cerb. A recognition award for the guys who take time to participate and contribute. Requirements Any male member here on cerb who you feel has helped you or gone above and beyond to bring useful or helpful information to our community. - - - - - - - PLEASE READ - - - - - - - To solve previous problems this will be the LADIES award for SP's who contribute on the site and at the same time this award runs we will also run the VALUED MEMBER awards (For the men). This will solve all the problems we had in the past (I HOPE). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

It's that whole rock from a stone thing. If you use someones photos they can take you to court but really if your suing someone who has nothing you leave the courtroom with empty pockets as it costs you money to go to court and if they have nothing your not going to leave with anything. If they own property (car, house, etc..) it may be worth it because you can put a lien on any of those things if they refuse to pay the judgment (again this costs you even more money) but when they go to sell the car or sell the house you would eventually get some (or all) of your money you sued them for. Often you walk away with a judgment in your favor but nothing to show for it. Good news is a cease and desist letter is usually all you need as no one likes to go to court - especially the hosting companies or websites where your photo has been used. A simple cease and desist note on your lawyers letterhead will usually get the photos down from the person who posted them! but you should have 2 copies sent (a copy to the person and a copy to the company that owns the site or the company who owns the web server it is on and is hosting the site) It will however cost you upwards of 400.00 for your lawyer to send out the letter.

She was caught with photos of Belle on her agency account here (in the album) listed as "Madison" and Belle reported them to us. So that was the final proof we needed to remove her from cerb.

LOL..Yes I do tend to get sidetracked on these.

This could explain some things. DFK, DATY, ETC... beards (even well groomed) are not SP FRIENDLY in most cases. Simple. You don't rebook with her and maybe you don't tip her if you feel the service was misrepresented. You take this change with every service you purchase from someone. If it's a contractor doing drywall, a web designer or a escort - you never really know if you will be 100% satisfied until you give them a chance. You can get all the recommendations in the world but you two may not see eye to eye. What do you do? You keep searching for someone you "Click" with and gets the job done the way you want it. Your expectations or "standards" may be too high and that is fine just don't be disappointed when you can't find what you are looking for in every lady. I am sure you will find someone eventually that you "Click" with and become a regular client with her. Guys who are VERY particular usually search until they find someone that is perfect for them and become "regular" clients. Consider this part as doing your homework and no matter what if she is recommended here it's going to be a lot better then doing the job yourself even if she does not meet your high standards. P.S. You should answer AvaFoxx's reply (details) it would let everyone assist you further with specifics. No need to be shy here!

He did ask for his account to be terminated. He however was over reacting to antermans comment about being old news... and the meaning of ...dot dot dot... Anyway... just more on... nothing to see hear...

The problem with this for some of the guys is... They have rotten teeth, bad breath or hygiene, cold soars, facial hair, etc... the ladies on the phone when asked if they kiss would say "Yes".... But what they should say however is "yes, as long as you have fresh smelling breath, a nice smile, you don't have facial hair that will scratch me or any nasty stuff growing off your lips" .... Some may find that offensive so they probably just say "yes" in most cases... Then the guy shows up and has some issues and the guy is mad cause she does not want to kiss old cigar breath with the rotten teeth and the grizzly beard. LOL Bad picture I painted... I know... but this happens! Can you blame her for "Changing her mind?" then the guy just wants to post and tell everyone how horrible of a time he had with her cause she didn't do any of the stuff she said she would. NO KISS = Breath, bad teeth, bad hygiene, smoke smell, onion/garlic/curry NO DATY = Beard, bad teeth, bad hygiene NO BJ = Bad Hygiene NO SERVICE = Possibly any of the above, STI showing, RUDE, VULGAR, DRUNK, SCARY, CREEPY, Demanding, etc... It's really just common sense but the guy who doesn't realize this is the reason is the guy who has no common sense or the jerk who thinks since he is paying for it she should do whatever he wants. (Guys who think this are idiots).

Usually the ladies offer the same service to everyone as long as your hygine is up to par. If you have bad odor, don't shower right before your appointment (or at your appointment), have bad breath (or rotten teeth), smell like cigarette smoke, onions, garlic, etc... if you creep her out in some way or make her uncomfortable, tried to bargain her price, asked her for some strange or odd request, etc.. etc.. etc.. ... any of these things could be your answer or even a combination of things. Or your just unlucky but chances are it's something above as the ladies don't usually offer something to one person and not another unless something is not clicking or right.

This company has asked to be on the DNR list - please respect that.