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If you use the SEARCH feature here you would find a previous thread on this subject. http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11823&highlight=soapy

We have a thread on this subject in the NEWS area. http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13627

They have NO POWER here at all.. Anyone even tries something like this and they are removed right away (no matter how many posts or how popular they are) - Cerb will remain SP FRIENDLY! I hear this a lot, seams that because a lot of porn is shot without protection many guys are assuming that this is what this means. If you advertise PSE you may want to make sure you add a comment about PSE does not mean unsafe sex. 1) this would help stop guys from expecting it 2) Many SAFE guys might stay away from you because they assume you do something unsafe with others. This is the problem with using abbreviations.... it leaves room for assumptions and that can be bad. I am sure we could start a list of funny confused abbreviation meanings where people assumed it meant something other than what it did.

It wasn't just you... but you did get warned before for the same thing so next time the membership account will be revoked of course.

Cerb is NOT a review board but it sounds like this could be posted as a recommendation. How about someone post a recommendation so we can MOVE this.

If any of you have his IP (you can get this from most email by looking at the header in the "Originating IP" comment or his username here on cerb I will remove him from the site and block the IP. Please DO NOT post the IP but PM it to me and I will do a search. I can search his EMAIL address on here for you as well if you send that to me. We have removed guys before for the same reason.

If anyone is attending these court hearings we would love to hear from you.

GUYS I AM NOT GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN... IF YOU POST PHOTOS SHOWING ANUS, PENIS, BUSH (Pubic Hair), VAGINA, ETC... YOUR POSTS WILL BE REMOVED AND YOU WILL RECEIVE A INFRACTION FOR IT. Topless photos are fine but if you post photos showing genitals it can cause cerb to receive a PORN rating.... We DO NOT want that. If it continues I will need to stop the ability to HOT LINK photos (this would mean none of the ladies here can hot link photos to their posts)... let's not let a few bad apples spoil this. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE POSTING A BAD PHOTO .... FLAG IT!

A kick back? are you kidding me? Our system is showing that sirsmitty69 logged in today to post this from the same computer as Miss Voyeur so first off this account has been revoked. Second... this is not the way to gain your access back and show me that you are willing to be more ethical in how you conduct yourself. Also... Nothing bad was said. Miss Voyeur broke the rules here, she got suspended for it... I explained why. Plain and simple. I discussed her ban with others from the office here (Before I read this post) and we all decided to suspend her account for 60 days instead of 6 months as I originally was going to do.. but now I log in to read this? Posted from the same computer as Miss Voyeur and I can't let that go so she will not be welcome back in the future at all. Both of these accounts will unfortunately be permanently banned from cerb. I am very sorry for everyone who would like to see her back but I can't allow someone on the site who conducts themselves in this manner.

I moved this to the proper area

That is correct. She unfortunately posted the link here in a few spots and was suspended from the site because of this. I still get asked why so here it is... It has taken us YEARS to build traffic for the Halifax area. The problem is once a city (section) on cerb starts to get busy all these "new directories" try to post free ads to scoop the traffic. Escorts-Canada dishes out an incredible amount of money a year to keep this site up and running so it's not good business to let these new sites that are trying to establish themselves post for free. E.C. Pays for the servers, bandwidth, chat room with video and audio streaming capabilities, my salary and a good chunk of cash for updates, custom script work and advertising. Trust me it adds up... These new sites should have to work just as hard (and pay the same bills) if they want a part of the traffic. Posting links to directories without even PM'ing me to ask about rates for advertising is just not acceptable. So far since Halifax started to get traffic we have had 3 new directories for Halifax (including this latest one with Miss Voyeur) try to do this same thing. If the ladies start to advertise on these (lured by free ad listings at first) they will actually cause themselves problems in the future. The traffic will start to split between popular directories and to get 100% of the traffic they will need to pay for ads on multiple sites (this happens in a lot of cities when competition for the local yellow pages started to multiply... not in many cities you need to pay 3 or more phone book companies for ads to get the same response you use to get from just one) Good news is that usually these sites drop off after a few months (sometimes a year or two) but occasionally they live on. Often they drop off when the owners get board or they realize they need to spend some serious $$ to make the site work (so they give up). Some expect to make money off the ladies right away with ad revenue... that is not the case as you need major traffic from the guys to support such a thing. Anyway... my 2.5 cents worth.

It's fine this time but for future reference please be sure to post ad type posts in the ANNOUNCEMENTS area (I know you posted this info here for a good reason - I deleted the comments from the offending person who broke the rules).

Welcome to the site, this site is not just for pro's but open to everyone who is a sexworker (Including non-FS massage). I have quoted the above part of your post as this would be considered a "Advertisement" for your services. Please avoid posting such things in the discussion area (you are welcome to post these in the Announcements area but be sure to comment that you are not a F.S. place - this will help you avoid unwanted phone calls or email questions and also anyone assuming otherwise).

Thank you, her text ad has been removed.

Tisk Tisk... too small of a community here to be pulling that one! No photos have been received and no contact from her - at this time she has not made any effort to clear up this matter. I can't exactly verify her photos if she does not send me in the verification photos I asked for. She can say whatever she wants on other boards but she won't be advertising here until she either fixes this and starts using REAL photo or she can prove those photos are hers as I don't buy her story. Again... if she ever verifies her photos I would let everyone know the same day.

That is a credit card SCAM! Don't EVER give your credit card info!! CL is FULL of these card scams!!

As we suspected. If you see her with an account here on cerb please let me know. I will suspend her until she can verify photos. We don't want anyone on cerb using fake photos.

Some people have asked me if it was hacker or not as we have had problems in the past. This time it was a hardware issue with the database server... just letting the techies know as we are all so curious about stuff like that.

Yeah, I know the feeling!

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Our main database server crapped out late last night (Sunday) and is now back online. We are still resolving some of the issues to it may still go on and off throughout the day.

As E.D. man Mentioned this has been discussed before but it's always good to keep stuff like this fresh for the newbies. Technically a single date in a residence or hotel is not illegal as the law says it must be a Common place of prostitution (meaning it must happen at the same location to be considered a bawdy house). If she rents a hotel room and you are the only person she sees in that room I suspect this is very much legal... some hotels rent by the hour so I could see a lady doing this as part of a business expense to be safe and more legal. Places like men's spa's (Massage) that offer "extra's" and out right brothels are very much illegal (and often become the targets of police investigations). The law was made to stop brothels but I suspect it was left undefined to allow law enforcement to use it for any place that brings such things as high traffic or public complaints. In most cities the answer would be no. Independent ladies are often left alone unless enforcements received public complaints. From my understanding .... In some cities Bi-Law enforcement laws are used to scare the ladies (Drive them out of the business or scare them into leaving the city) and in some cities the by-laws are enforced by police and not by-law officers making it that much harder for the ladies to understand the difference between a by-lay infraction and a criminal charge. Winnipeg, Calgary and Windsor are know places where this has been done (by-law used to harrass the ladies and enforced by police as it's easier for them to charge people with by-law infractions than to charge someone under the criminal code of Canada). I am sure most of the police involved in this harassment don't feel good about doing this, I suspect pressure from the city councils is the reason for this (or they are brainwashed into thinking they are doing something good - I don't know for sure but it's wrong and we all know it). The public often group escorts, dancers, street walkers, etc... all into the same group (unmoral sex work) and see them as all the same. This is just ignorance and a lack of education on the subject that results in this. They can not charge the escorts for public solicitation like they do the streetwalkers (unless they con a escort into talking about something in a hotel lobby or somewhere public) They make up these by-laws to give them more power to harass the ladies. Safe? Safe can mean a number of things. Safe from harm? Safe from legal procession? I assume you mean is she working legally but I should address the actual safety factor first. She is safer working from a single location (but not her home as it would be foolish to give out your home address to strangers - this only encourages stalkers and predators as the ladies end up being easy targets for these deviants). It is much more risky to do outcalls as the lady never really knows what she is walking into - this is why I personally feel that brothels should be legalized as if done correctly it can make the work environment for these ladies (and the customers) much safer. From a legal point currently any incall location is illegal if it's used more then once for prostitution (paid sexual services). It seams that most LE overlook the single low traffic ladies working from a location. In most cities they are not the target of investigations and many have done this for years. I am sure the police know that the ladies are MUCH safer doing this and if they are not causing anyone any harm why go out of your way to harass someone (much bigger fish to fry who actually deserve it). If I was a police enforcement officer I would not want to harass people who are just making a honest living and I would feel that everyone deserves the right to a safe working environment. I would want to target pimps, drugs, sex slavery and other much more serious crimes. I would feel just horrible if I was forced to pick on the single ladies just trying to work in a safe environment (and I am sure most of the police feel the same way). The problem with this question is that your asking for advise on how to get away with breaking the law. No one can answer this question legally. At this time we can only tell the ladies how it is. It is illegal no matter how they do it but it's safer for them (personal safety) as it keeps them in a familiar setting and they are not walking into a potentially dangerous location. This is one of the reasons why the law is being appealed. If I (or anyone here) were to give you advise on how to break the law we would be in trouble so we can't allow that for obvious reasons. Many have but again they are taking the chance of being charged with common bawdy house. Here is something to think about. What would the police need to charge someone with a common bawdy house charge and make it stick in court?? I figure they need first hand proof that prostitution is taking place in the location. Pretty hard to raid a ladies house once to prove that if she is the only one working... if it was a brothel and multiple ladies and customers were in the act that would be very different! They would need to witness this first hand or at least be solicited by phone, in person, email, etc... to come to this location with the promises of a sexual acts (this could be why many of the ladies do not like to discuss sexual acts on the phone, email, etc.. but only in person.) If a police officer went to see this lady in person and asked all these questions in person it still does not prove that the location is a common location. The police at this stage can't arrest her as she did not solicit in public or give enough proof that the location was a common place of prostitution. I guess if the undercover officer asked her something like "So how many guys a week do you see here" and she was foolish enough to answer a loaded question like that it could be enough to charge her by her own admission. Otherwise... I suspect they would need to actually have sex with her and then another police officer would need to go in again and verify that the location is a common location (happened more than once at the same location). I doubt many police would want to go on record as having sex with prostitutes (I am sure many are customers but don't want everyone in the world to know that). I guess he could get up and leave without having sex but that does not prove that the act ever took place in that location (would be very hard to get a conviction). No matter what with one girl working from one location it would be very hard to prove it was a common bawdy house and it would be very hard for the police to justify the time, expense and manpower required to go after this single lady (who is really doing no harm and is working in a otherwise safe environment as she is not going to a strangers house or working on the street corner). It would be foolish to target these ladies and I am sure LE knows that.

I suspect this is all street walker related (Not escorts).

Nope... not as of yet.:(

I think we can put this one to rest for now right? secret_admirer voluntarily removed the posts he made here. He will be taking a few months away from the site as he agreed that he could use a break (we can all tell he needed one - including him). Let's let him have some time away and hope he comes back with his thoughts sorted out and back to his old self. We don't want to dwell on the negative as we all get out of sorts at times. He will be welcome back in a few months if he chooses to come back.