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I remember those days too, and I could do it again and again as well. Now for the bad news, it doesn't get any better than it is right now:lol:

Sounds like someone under the thumb of some pimp. Hopefully she will find the will and a way to get out of this situation.

Bingo! I have had this type of relationship with two SPs in the past, at different times, both are now retired and one I continued the relationship for sometime after she retired. I was charged less than the going rate but saw them more often. Victoria is a tourist town and the way the girls explained it, local guys like me were their bread and butter, while the tourists in the summer paid for their trips to Mexico.

Mexican bandits in Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles "Badges!, We don't need no stinkin badges!" John Cleese as the sheriff in the same movie "Today, my jurisdiction ends here!"

My very first SP was a large polynesian woman on a south pacific island with pubic hair like steel wool! Cost me approx $15.00 CAN. (I swear, no word of a lie)

Maybe the lucky bastard is reminiscing!

Come towards the light! Cowboy, The light! :mrgreen:

Perhaps my example was a little extreme but I was spring boarding off of Emma's example. The scenario of a corporation closing it's doors and relocating is probably also on the extreme side, although there is n doubt it has and will happen. Probably the most likely scenario many of our fellow citizens will face is a reduction in the amount of hours worked with a corresponding decrease in income. I know of a few already. It is possible that some of the new SPs appearing are looking to supplement a recently reduced income. I myself was in put into a position of moving to Ottawa and taking a cut in pay, or retiring. Now the job I do here is certainly less stressful and not worthy of the bonuses I was receiving before, but it still is a substantial change of lifestyle for me. One does what one has to do. However, back to the topic, negotiation has to be done prior to, not after an appt has been made. Once you have set a time and place, you are assumed to have agreed to the price. Trying to negotiate when you arrive for a scheduled appt, is not fair ball and to expect to get the same level of service after trying to do so is just stupid.

Perhaps my example was a little extreme but I was spring boarding off of Emma's example. The scenario of a corporation closing it's doors and relocating is probably also on the extreme side, although there is n doubt it has and will happen. Probably the most likely scenario many of our fellow citizens will face is a reduction in the amount of hours worked with a corresponding decrease in income. I know of a few already. It is possible that some of the new SPs appearing are looking to supplement a recently reduced income. I myself was in put into a position of moving to Ottawa and taking a cut in pay, or retiring. Now the job I do here is certainly less stressful and not worthy of the bonuses I was receiving before, but it still is a substantial change of lifestyle for me. One does what one has to do. However, back to the topic, negotiation has to be done prior to, not after an appt has been made. Once you have set a time and place, you are assumed to have agreed to the price. Trying to negotiate when you arrive for a scheduled appt, is not fair ball and to expect to get the same level of service after trying to do so is just stupid.

That would depend on what the option is. If the option is no work for no pay, it would have to be considered. I imagine there are plenty of people in North America who are negotiating their jobs for less pay in this economic climate. Of course this would only be the starting point, I would counter with 80% pay and a shorter work day, and we would go from there. At the end of the day, either person can call no deal and walk away. For those who seem to disdain negotiating for play, the lot of you would be eaten alive in a Mexican Whorehouse. There negotiation is part of the game. It also gives the girl a graceful way of turning down a less desirable client. I also think that if you don't negotiate fairly and with a little spirit, you don't get a lot of respect from the girl either. It is also an opportunity to gauge compatibility as well. On occasion where the initial offer was a good enough deal for me, I have that the subsequent encounter was a little lackluster as well. On those occasions where I felt that I drove a hard bargain, the encounter was on the upper end of the scale as well. I guess what I am trying to say, is negotiation can be a fun part of the process in a different context.

That would depend on what the option is. If the option is no work for no pay, it would have to be considered. I imagine there are plenty of people in North America who are negotiating their jobs for less pay in this economic climate. Of course this would only be the starting point, I would counter with 80% pay and a shorter work day, and we would go from there. At the end of the day, either person can call no deal and walk away. For those who seem to disdain negotiating for play, the lot of you would be eaten alive in a Mexican Whorehouse. There negotiation is part of the game. It also gives the girl a graceful way of turning down a less desirable client. I also think that if you don't negotiate fairly and with a little spirit, you don't get a lot of respect from the girl either. It is also an opportunity to gauge compatibility as well. On occasion where the initial offer was a good enough deal for me, I have that the subsequent encounter was a little lackluster as well. On those occasions where I felt that I drove a hard bargain, the encounter was on the upper end of the scale as well. I guess what I am trying to say, is negotiation can be a fun part of the process in a different context.

I think Kyra's take on this is quite accurate for her situation. Higher end providers who are known to have a proven/guaranteed value are going to benefit from those who still have money to spend on diversions but less than before. They will tend to go for the sure thing and opt for a TOFTT much less. The lesser known or new providers will bear the brunt of the economic slowdown. They will be forced to lower rates/increase services or pack up and go home. They will also face competition from newcomers who reconsider the value of their virtue verses economic well being. While this is great for those clients who still have the money to go searching for that "gem in the rough", it also forces many of these providers to accept situations/clients which make them uncomfortable. An uncomfortable provider is not likley to provide a memorable experience.

Over the years, this has happened to me a few times. All I can say is ?Grow up?. It happens. Many of these girls are living a life that isn't routine and on occasion they can be surprised by mother nature as well. What do I do if it happens to me? Well, I start off by being sympathetic and reassure them that I am not freaked out am ok with it. I guess some clients get really freaked out (after reading the rest of this thread, I am no longer guessing) and cause a little grief. I normally carry on with the session although DATY is usually out. Some girls are not comfortable with intercourse while on their period, so after cleaning up, I often get an awesome blow job. And when I repeat, they usually more than make it up to me.

Duplicate names are the bane of this industry. On occasion, someone new will come in with a name they have chosen and discover that is is already in use, but most of the time, it is an attempt to cash in on someone else's reputation/notoriety. The best defense is to have a combination name. Single names are too easily excused as an accident. Nearly all travelling SPs have a double name for that reason. They work hard to establish a reputation and have to come into many cities where their chosen single name may lready be in use, and not necessarily by someone they want to be associated with. When I see an add by someone who has obviously chosen a name already in use, I stroke them off my list. I figure if they are tryng to cash in on someone else's reputation instead of building their own, they are probably not worth seeing anyway.

References to early experiences of eroticism at mainstream movies brought back memories of one of my earliest moment of my awakening sexuality. Do any of the old timers here ever remember a book called "Summer of 42"? I was 12 or 13 when I found it in a box of books my mother had obtained at a rummage sale. I doubt she even realized the book was in there. After reading it, I was never able to look at the young mothers in our rural community the same way again.

Perhaps ugly is too strong a word, perhaps less than beautiful is more accurate. I have found that here are some women out here who are not beautiful, or even pretty by most standards yet still exude a sex appeal which far outshines some of their more blessed sisters. a couple of wel known examples would be Lucy Liu and Claudia Black. Who are some people that you find sexy but not necessarily beautiful?

Of late, Eva Angelina does it for me. http://www.keezmovies.com/videos?pornstar=Eva%20Angelina

BTW, this is not a review of a Hawaii Time Share presentation. But I do not recommend one. :)

ROTFLMFAO Isn't that the truth. I once thought it was a great way to get a free jeep rental in Hawaii. I now Considere it to be the most expensive rented car I ever got.

Or rolled, Or arrested, I would set up a meet before I discussed anything more, and even then I would wait until I was in private in a place of my choosing before discussing activity/price. You may have a desperate gem in the rough, or something a lot worse.

Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. Sir Winston Churchill, Speech, 1941, Harrow School British politician (1874 - 1965)

My very first time with a professional is only memorable for all the wrong reasons. I was an eighteen year old sailor in the Navy on my first deployment, on a south Pacific island with a statuesque polynesian woman with pubic hair like steel wool. I paid too much, recieved too little in return and to make matters worse, my shipmate didn't know the what the word discretion meant let alone practiced any. Fortunately my port visit a few weeks later to the Phillipines more than made up for my less than satisfactory experience above. I learned some valuable lessons: If your first impression isn't positive, it is not likely to get better. As for the public embarrassment, it only lasted a short while because when your with a group of sailors, it is only a matter of time before someone else fucks up and takes the heat off of you.

Over the last year or so, Mad World by Gary Jules has always kind of been at the edge of my conscience. I first noticed the song when it was used in a video game advertisement and I thought it sounded pretty cool although perhaps the juxtaposition with the scenes of viloence in the add helped to make the impact it did. However, I was curious enough to look it up and it made even more of an impression. Mad World Gary Jules (cover of Tears for Fears) All around me are familiar faces Worn out places, worn out faces Bright and early for their daily races Going nowhere, going nowhere Their tears are filling up their glasses No expression, no expression Hide my head I want to drown my sorrow No tomorrow, no tomorrow And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had I find it hard to tell you I find it hard to take When people run in circles It's a very, very Mad World Mad world Children waiting for the day they feel good Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday And I feel the way that every child should Sit and listen, sit and listen Went to school and I was very nervous No one knew me, no one knew me Hello teacher tell me what's my lesson Look right through me, look right through me And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had I find it hard to tell you I find it hard to take When people run in circles It's a very, very Mad World Mad World Enlarging your world Mad World.

Have you considered this person is a lurker who is using your handle when he introduces himslf to providers in hope of getting better service. I have seen this situation on other boards although from your description of the situation, he isn't threatening the SPs with a bad review if he doesn't get what he wants, yet.

Lol, I dropped infor some exercise a few times in the 80s