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As I have often stated, I love ass worship as much as the next girl tho I found nothing in odl"s post to qualify in that vein. I appreciate his words regardless of his intention as I would not assume such a display to have ulterior motives... cat

My Darling Old Dog, It only takes a few good people to start a real community like this one the path of connectedness. I think there has been a real sense of care since the beginning with MOD laying out the groundwork and it has grown from there. I saw a turning point when Angela and ottonon started the socials. The delicate strings of relationship building started to entangle and hold many of us together. We just didn't realize how strong those strings are until we find ourselves hanging by one of them. When we see one of our own dangling, we all scramble to pull them back up and hold them close. You have consistently supported both online and in person everyone you came in contact with and touched us all. I know that despite our differences in the beginning you have brought smiles and joy to my life in ways I never expected and today can't imaging not having you "Just over there" to reach out to. My kitten delights in your company and treasures the laughter you bring to our lives as much as I do. What amazes me are the relationships in my life that have formed with members becoming friends without a business aspect to them. The ladies all have a common bond that is obvious but over the years I have met hobbyists that quickly moved from SP/guest to friend after the first visit or even without a playdate. People who I genuinely appreciate having in my life and you are one of them. Unexpected in a business like this where there are suppose to be such clear rules of engagement. I am grateful that its like this because I have people that have proven themselves as real friends that know everything about my life. No having to explain my work, no defending my choices, no apologizing for who I am. You sir, seemed to have started the ball rolling on this aspect of my life and I thank you for being you and for showing us that by adding the love only makes the community stronger, not weirder if that makes any sense! And I will finish by saying "Love you baby, don't ever change!" because the world needs more of you... cat

What disturbs me most about the article is that someone intentionally went cruising for victims, much like the predators that stalk SPs; with intention of transmitting a disease. If the client base knew how many crazies providers deal with, this article wouldn't seem inflammatory, it would just make sense as to why she posted the link... cat

Yes, you clarified the physical implications. A baby is worse than a disease, I get it. And the moral implications are...? I really can't wait to read your explanation on this aspect, it has been a real challenge for me to try and understand it... cat

So the only concern is pregnancy? I didn't realize pregnancy was a disease, I'm so glad I've had my tubes tied so I don't catch it again! So guys only shun bbfs because they are afraid to father a child? Fathering a prostitutes child is scarier than taking chylamidia home to the wife and rendering her sterile? Wow! Of course, that makes complete sense to me now. The cesspool of everything else you might catch wasn't the issue. Whew, glad you clarified that for me! I'm sorry but given all the temper tantrums thrown by men over providers who charge for extras, we can't charge more for extra services but when we insist on protecting our health we should be paid less? So from a product market standpoint, cars that have high safety ratings should be less than cars without? Line workers who take safety precautions not to lose a limb should be paid less because they produce fewer widgets than those willing to lose an arm? It all makes so much more sense to me now! Thank you for this valuable insight, I will be sure to apply this strategy it to my next shopping trip. I'm sure the salesman will appreciate the crystal clear understanding I have when I explain to him why I should pay less for an ultra safe product as opposed to something that could endanger my health... cat

Because our industry is unregulated, there is no training and when an inexperienced sp hits the scene she is descended upon by the lower ranks of hobbyists. The ones searching for the affordable diamond in the rough and the majority of those men want bbbj's. If she is a lone wolf, she will have no one to go to for advice. She may be apprehensive but when her tongue doesn't fall off in the first month, she develops the "it's not so bad" attitude and continues on. She assumes she has to provide it and all clients want it. It takes time to develop the understanding of what is happening and realize there are options. Might I ask, did it concern you that she provided a bb service without asking permission? cat

I have a little rescue that is such a pain sometimes. His trainer told me the first time she met him "He is broken, the SPCA should have put him down. I can teach him some manners but he'll never be right." That was the beginning of an experience that I can say has been interesting. He has anxiety. WTF is he anxious about? His vet suggested anti anxiety meds but I'll be damned if I have a dog on drugs and I'm not getting any! People coming thru the front door put him over the fragile edge and walking him is akin to being a map strategist and lion handler all at the same time. He loves other dogs but is the self appointed yard monitor at the dog park, running around telling other dogs off for being too rough, too loud or just having too much fun. He's like that kid we all went to school with but never really understood. Quirky, odd and really wanted to be friends with you but never knew how to do it. He's a sweet, obnoxious bundle that is only ever truly happy when he's curled up under a blanket close to someone from his pack. His brokenness fits perfectly into my unconventional tribe of misfits, angels and social outcasts that make up his pack. Maybe when things calm down I will look for another dog who is calm and laid back to add to the pack. cat

@livefast1080 Your analogy doesn't hold true to this industry. A more accurate comparison is to an asbestos removal company that strips down hazmat equipement because the workers probably won't get cancer from handling the asbestos and if it happens it won't be for a long time. Or a construction company that doesn't want their workers to wear hard hats because it's easier to identify who's who on the site. As an industry we have no health and safety legislation in place and quite honestly we need some. If the ladies are sounding a little hostile it is because we are being pushed to take easily preventable health risks. It's not annoyance we bring forward, its genuine frustration and disgust at the lackadaisical and laissez faire attitude that we consistently get from men who don't give a shit if they are doing something that puts their provider at risk, regardless of how they view the risk. This shouldn't even be a conversation let alone one that pops up every month... cat

I'm sorry, I don't understand the difference morally or physically. As far as I'm concerned they are really no different. Both are putting a providers health at risk, therefore threatening her livelihood. Would you mind clarifying? This paragraph makes no sense to me at all. I should charge less for the same amount of time invested and effort spent because I'm trying to protect myself, my clients and the people we collectively love? A little clarification would help here as well... cat

And this Miss Samantha is why you are so precious to me and CERB... cat

Downtown 1. The Minto 2. Albert at Bay 3. The Delta 4. The Arc 5. The Radisson 417 1. The Travel Lodge 2. The Chimo 3. The Hampton Inn Convention Center (this location actually has a couple of hotels in the complex, lots of parking and easy access from all parts of the city) cat

I realize that women have a much stronger position to make this happen but I know exactly how you feel! I have a guest who came to see me a couple of times and the visits were wonderful. Great couch time, amazing foreplay and spectacular finishes but I genuinely wanted to skip the couch time with him. Our playtime was too short and I always wanted more when he left. So one night when I opened the door, I just inhaled him right there. Clothes flew and we barely made it to the playroom. Since then, we no longer have couch time, our chemistry is so intense that it isn't necessary for either of us. Lead your lady to it, get her in the mood by teasing. Take your time for a couple of visits and seduce her, it worked with me... cat

If our $ numbers were anywhere near a pro athletes income, I would agree but I assure you it isn't even tho our careers are usually about the same length. Athletes also have a social step up in terms of the lack of stigma attached to their career after they retire that we don't have. And at the end of the month when we haven't generated enough to take care of responsibilities, what do we do? Especially when it happens month after month? While some providers have employment options, many of us don't. I was turned down for a job at Tim Hortons! The direct pressure from guests is manageable most of the time, it's the pressure comes from the fact we have families to support and bills to pay like everyone else is what grinds down the spirit and that's when decisions get made that we later regret. I know I certainly do. I think given there is risk, it's narcissistic to even consider making it a mandatory requirement... cat

I understand the confusion as both have risk. I feel that because of the increased sexual partners that an SP has, her risk increases exponentially. Myself as an example, my target is to see 1 client a day/5 days a week. Thats 260 encounters a year. Now most of my clients are repeats but I'm not naive enough to believe that I am the only provider they see so if 20 of them see a high volume provider each month (let's assume 100 clients/mth) once a month it increases my exposure to over 2000 people per month or 24 000 people per year. Those numbers are very scary to me. I can't calculate the odds of a client because it would vary for each man but if they actually thought about the number of people a provider is exposed to, I think it would have a sobering effect especially if they only see ladies who offer bbbj as in Ottawa those providers are much busier.. I also understand that some men have issues with condoms being used during oral but in 25 years I have never had anyone have an actual issue with it unless they have an ED issue. I can get a condom on a man without him even knowing it's there and have new clients stop me during FS to check if I've put it one on after coitus is underway. This has led me to believe that it's a mental block not a physical issue at hand. I've never been comfortable with unprotected anything but Canadian men are brutal when it comes to insisting on it. I offered it in '08 out of financial necessity but no longer put it on the menu. It just isn't worth it to me. Uncovered oral is something I do when I'm so connected with a partner that I have complete trust in them and in the relationship we have. I'm not a risk taker, I don't play the stock market, russian roulette or go to the casino. Playing the odds I've listed above just doesn't seem like a prudent move on either a business or personal level. This is suppose to fun and in my world, fun isn't accompanied by sleepless nights full of worry, a trip to the doctor or having to tell you significant other you have infected them with something that may impact their health... cat

@frenchbrute... As a female that always dated 10-20 years my senior I can say it has nothing to do with the bedroom techniques. It is the different perceptions, interests and outlook that attracts me. I love the wisdom that comes from someone who has already experience the phase of life I'm going thru, who can discuss with experience what I am living and perhaps offer insight that I would not see. That said, I have had a couple of amazing life experiences with peers and younger than myself as well, it just isn't the norm. For me it's about the connection I feel to someone more than their sexual talent or skill... cat

Persistent insistance coupled with ignorance and financial survival... cat

You ladies are far more ambitious than I! While I have a stocked liquor cabinet, I don't mix; that's why I sent my oldest to bartending school! I'm a straight up or neat kinda girl so when guests come over, the initial offerings are always simple, scotch, cognac or burbon with ice/water. Sometimes wine but if they get all fru fru and want mixes, I open the cupboard and tell them to have at it. I love the flavoured or scented waters tho and am partial to cranberry or cucumber with rose or orange blossom extract. I prefer water over anything... cat

I have built my business on the "slow down and savour" model. I realized when I returned to Canada that in my career, my favorite times and most memorable moments were those that I spent "time" with a guest. I remember those special men that took the time to get to know me and allow me to know them as people, not just a romp. Today I dedicate my energy to those men that know they want more than just a play partner, they want a NSA relationship that is beneficial to both of us on more than just a physical/financial level. They need to want the connection that comes from knowing and genuinely liking someone. I want to look forward to my guests, to count down the sleeps till I see them and savour the experience from the moment they walk thru the door until they depart with kisses and and our next visit is scheduled. I refuse to waste a minute with someone I can't connect with even tho this is my work. I don't want to be rushed or feel like I'm counting the minutes till he leaves. Life is too short to be taken for granted and our time is too precious to waste. So ciego5757, yes you can take your time. You just need to choose partners that see the world the same way... cat

Smart girl, I'm glad she stood up for herself but as Berlin said; there is a bit of over the top in the response. Obviously this person is on his "diamond in the rough" quest as so many are. I can just imagine the review... "Hey guys, toftt! Was on Kijiji and found this girl that will clean your pipes AND your toilet. Took a little persuading but she came around. She's 19, a real GND type. A little fat (119lbs and 5'6) but she vacuums so it's all good. She showed up in track pants and runners, no french maid uniform.:( Don't mention anything on the phone, she actually thinks she's a house cleaner. She's a peach so I won't put her information up here but PM me for details. Only 100+ posters with at least 10 reviews will get replies" Asshat "They're all ho's, they just won't admit it"

Welcome and Hello! cat

I would have a tough time chosing between Sara MQ, Cleo or Malika. They are all AMAZING women but to add another to that list, take a peek at Luxe Mulvari. How about just booking all 4 of them and having a naked tattoo fashion show? cat

Your honesty is appreciated here, I know it isn't easy to be frank with such a personal struggle. I have encountered guests who struggle with this and I always tell them to trust their intuition but men prefer logic which doesn't apply to affairs of the heart and conscience. I congratulate you on making things work again in your relationship, that is such an amazing accomplishment. What I have never understood is the necessity to justify taking care of your personal needs. Are you a man who needs regular sexual interaction or do you need the stimulation of multiple partners? I would recommend if you boil it down and it turns out you really just want regularity then you are better to play at home with your partner. There is a safety in knowing she won't find out and you could end up losing her as a result. If you need a little variety to keep things working at home then chosing a provider is always safer than just having an affair. I loved your words "Be "good". I spent my entire life trying to do just that and finally figured out a couple of years ago that I am good, just the way I am. It is possible to have a true, loving and intimate relationship with secrets, the question is do you want it that way? How are you hardwired? Does guilt eat at you? Do you have regrets? If not, then it really isn't an issue except in theory. What is cheating to your SO? The definition is fluid, for some women it's when their boyfriend looks at women in magazines and for others it's when the man gets engaged to another without her even knowing there was another woman in the picture. I have 2 guests that I adore, one former and one current. Both of the same age, religion, and economic bracket. One retired from seeing me because he became a grandfather and felt in his heart he couldn't be a role model unless he walked the walk. The other doesn't put onus on his relationship with me in context when it comes to his personal life. Being a part of my life doesn't change who he is, what he believes or stands for. These gentlemen are both doing what's "right". But it's what's right for them and only them. I don't believe in a "one and only", that person who is "your" sparkly unicorn and the pursuit of finding it can distract us from the real meaning we find in our day to day. The only person who has to live with you inside your head is you and that is where these answers are. I do believe that you can have a spectacular relationship with one person for a lifetime but it has to be exactly what you want to do. Either way, if you aren't true to yourself, you both will eventually pay the price... cat

Darling Chuck, I am a private player by nature, I love the one on one connection and never imagined being part of an interactive sensual experience until VJ approached me. I've attended swinging and kink parties as a voyeur, am an active member of the kink community and very liberal but never played publicly. It was astounding the atmosphere that VJ provided with Paradiso. That night the key to these events struck me. It's the host. If the host knows what is important the night will be a success. Each female attendant needs to be vetted and on the right page. Each male guest needs to not only have the willingness to attend but the essence to appreciate without reserve the events happening. I've seen nightmare like interactions from drama royalty to downright hostile action at events and Paradiso was unlike anything I'd imagined. The guests were outstanding in behaviour and interaction and the ladies approach was stellar. Not a diva amongst them. I'm also aware of the months of preparation that goes into the screening of attendants which is where the real challenge lies. It seems there is a review for last nights events here... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118480&highlight=paradiso cat

Darling Chuck, Your idea is not crazy, just exceedingly hard to coordinate. There are many dynamics that need to be considered and much planning to be done. Perhaps you should take a peek at Paradiso? Our very own Victoria Jolie actually hosts a series of these amazing parties across Canada. I had the honor of attending the Toronto event and will say it was the most memorable sexual experience of my career. Over a dozen amazing women and screened hand chosen clients together for 5 hours of delicious food, drink and debauchery. I would recommend without hesitation to drop her an email. Her Calgary event was last night and she has another coming up in Montreal in early summer. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask! http://www.victoriajolie.com smiles, cat

Something just occurred to me while I was thinking about what to make for dinner. I love bacon sandwiches, I love making bacon sandwiches and do so with great care. I like eating them even more, naked spreading crumbs all over the sheets and licking the mayo off my fingers. Like Old Dog, I like the traditional wich with lettuce and tomato on lightly toasted bread with butter and Dukes mayonnaise. Sometimes I add cheese or a little sliced avacado when I am feeling a naughty and I gladly serve them when requested as all good providers do. Just remember for the guys that ask for a bacon sandwich after a play session, if your provider is capable of getting up and making it for you; you probably haven't earned it... cat