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Agreed! You as well... smiles, cat

Actually, hitting the reset button is exceedingly easy. She won't lose the majority of her client base as she simply stops advertising the old number but keeps it on and then rolls her clients to her new number as they come to see her. I can relaunch any provider as a no name back page girl in less than an hour with a completely new look, photos, a new number and there's usually no need for a new location. It's not at all difficult. And she looks bad for perhaps a couple of days at most but her regulars won't even notice. I know providers who have had multiple personas that cater to completely different demographics that have maintained them for years without being outed on the boards. Trust me when I say the boards make up a very small percentage of the industry today and a resilient provider will always land on her feet. We are survivors, regardless of what happens in our lives. This is an industry of stage, illusion and fantasy so a recreation is actually fairly easy... smiles, cat

I agree that a cancellation isn't the worst possibility and we are all too well aware of the potential dangers, rest assured; cancellations are still a huge problem in itself. For what ever reason she had, which we don't know given we haven't heard her side of the circumstance, I'm going assume she had her reasons at the time. Whether it was an over reaction, she perhaps had him in her phone from a long ago prior situation or she found him on a blacklist somewhere as a WOT, we don't know. For those unaware, there are both local and national blacklists that providers forward information to if we think it will prevent someone else from getting into a tricky situation. And while I'm not saying the OP in any way omitted information on the current occurrence, I am saying that everyone seems quick to judgement when we only have one side it. Publicly posting a number is extreme and even the most simple would understand the potential backlash so she must have felt justified for some reason unbeknownst to us. If it was an overreaction, I'm sure she will come to her senses once the waters calm. It is a true shame that one persons suffers for the consistent bad behaviour of so many that do cancel last minute or NC/NS but the truth is we'll never know why she hit her tipping point that day. The truth is that word of mouth or in reality, anonymous online recommendations/warnings actually mean very little in this world of ours. The majority of bankable clients are not on the boards and those that are have the good common sense not to take what is written as either good or bad gospel. Will this hurt her? Perhaps but all it takes is box of $13 hair dye, some new selfies and a new $5 phone app and she's off to the races again. The unbranded providers are never for lack of traffic. The overinflated sense of importance and trust that boards inspire in their regular users is quite remarkable but of little genuine consequence. I'm truly sorry this happened inlove and I do hope the fallout isn't life altering... smiles, cat

In the shower, with an electric toothbrush. I've done since I was a teenager... smiles, cat

And what does that have to do with racism? I don't understand. My reply was simply to answer a prior post of yours. If I didn't know better, given this and your other ageist posts, I'd say that ageism is coming into play. Isn't that just another form of prejudice, like racism? I don't see you calling out providers who have age restrictions. Perhaps it's because you understand and empathize with those prejudices... smiles, cat

They aren't hurting themselves, they are making a well considered, thought out decision for their business. I find it amusing that you think you know our industry better than those that pay their bills here. A couple of things; first, the potential pool of black clients in Canada is relatively small. Second, a well marketed provider has more than enough clients to choose from. Third, you don't know that it's racially motivated. Most of the time, it's because she's involved with a black man and doesn't want his friends showing up at her door. Most of the time, the ladies involved are far from racist. You've decided that it's going to hurt her business but mature clients realize how multifaceted this industry truly is and are more than willing to see someone in spite of a disclaimer on her advertising and discover for themselves if she is a worthy provider for them. You're logic doesn't follow thru here because it's righteous, not factually based and I understand that so I'm trying to explain that it's a quick judgement and not one based on genuine understanding of the industry. If you understood the dynamics, you wouldn't have asked. The fact you're resisting the answers speaks for itself... smiles, cat

Actually, I have the almost same client base that I started with 13 years ago except for a couple I added in 2008. I've only done 3 brief ad campaigns in 13 years, my client retention percentages are exceedingly high for those gentlemen I value. I also welcome all ethnicities who are respectful but I don't see why it's anyones business what a provider chooses to post in her ads. Sharing the most intimate aspects of yourself is difficult enough, no where is it written we have to take on all comers.;) It should be considered a bonus to know up front so gentlemen can avoid difficult situations and until you've been in her situation you cannot presume to know or to judge her motivations... smiles, cat

I've in the industry over 30 years. For 20 of them I didn't see West Indians. I had my reasons, they weren't racial and they didn't hurt my business. As long as a provider is ethical with the clients she does see and wants to work, her pool never runs dry. I worked for years in the South and most white providers don't see black men there. They all paid their bills just fine. There are black men who won't see white providers and white men who won't see black providers. It happens, asking anyone to have sex with someone they aren't comfortable with is a ludicrous idea. Trust that if it's in a providers ad, it's better she says it up front than have both parties struggle thru wasting his money and her time... Twatwaffles breed like rabbits in that state. It's just not worth the "WTF's???", lol... smiles, cat

I'm not actually on board with this concept of "she lied to you so you need to question her integrity". Here's why... Being outed this industry can destroy families and reputations causing irreparable long term unrepairable damage. In the future it can cost them their children, future jobs, volunteer positions, friendships and family members. They may not be allowed to participate in school activities with their children or become foster parents, they may not be allowed to volunteer at women's shelters or be employed in the health care industry. They may be denied access to the US or denied for any number of activities. One has no idea how being outed will impact their future. I know because all of the above have happened to me personally. Choosing who to share this fact of our lives with is fraught with very real danger. If it's disclosed at the beginning of a dynamic, the chances of the relationship succeeding are slim anyway; adding this to the mix means the man has power over a provider if she isn't already out. He knows where she lives, what her government name is and probably who her friends/family are. He's seen her Facebook and social media, he now has access to all aspects of her life. All it takes is a single email to blow her life out of the water. It happens all the time with loved ones we've known for years and we've all witnessed the slut shaming women go thru when they break up with someone for valid reasons who aren't sex workers. Disclosing you're a sex worker is a huge leap of faith and to think any woman in her right mind would disclose this up front is absurd and I don't believe any provider should be expected to. A man needs to earn that trust, he needs to prove to her that he is safe and won't hurt her with the information the first time they hit a pot hole in the relationship. She needs to feel safe with him, see how he reacts when he's angry. Is he petty or revenge oriented when he's furious, does he act like a 2 year old or hold grudges? Does he throw things in her face and fight dirty? She owes him nothing when it comes to disclosure until she knows the relationship is first and foremost safe and is going somewhere. Why is it deemed a wrong to protect yourself? I argue it isn't, it's a strong, gut survival instinct that women need to listen to and know they aren't in the wrong because they are trying to take care of themselves. And once she's decided to share this aspect of herself with a man, he should have the wisdom to realize her motivations and accept that it wasn't him, it was necessary for her protection. Then he should thank his lucky stars he has a found himself an honest to goodness firecracker that has a backbone and the ambition to want more out of life and is willing to make the hard decisions and sacrifices to get it. And the cherry on top is... she wants him. smiles, cat

I'm not sure what your impressions are of the industry but in 30 years my "ideal donor pool" has never once dried up. Providers all have likes and preferences. I for one, don't see Texans... smiles, cat

The initial lie is a problem given the need for trust in a relationship but understandable given the stigma and potential harm that could come if the relationship ends. Providers are most at risk from people close to them; physically, mentally and socially. We are outed by "less than loved ones" 95% of the time so I'm inclined to believe lying about our work is a much needed survival instinct. It's a job, all be it a more challenging occupation for relationships. My gentle suggestion is if the work bothers you in any way, walk away now. It's never going to sit right and will taint the relationship in ways you don't realize yet. Men who can participate in relationships with sex workers either need to be completely neutral or completely supportive internally for the relationship to have a chance. There is no room for a negative gut reaction and you need to be honest with yourself about how you are feeling. This is indeed work, it can be incredibly empowering and gratifying in so many ways. There is aspect of service that most people don't consciously relate to but it's the foundation of this industry. We help people smile and feel better about the world, every time we provide service. It offers us the opportunity for independence and control in our lives which breeds confidence and strength. It gives us the permission, experience and time to grow as people; faster than any other occupation imo as long as she has genuine support from her partner and loved ones or at least a neutral home environment. If she doesn't, it creates an inner conflict that will influence her very soul in devastating ways. I went thru the same thing with my husband when I decided to go back to work. The deception was where the damage came initially but we worked thru that aspect quickly. The next several years were difficult because I could work as long as I didn't enjoy it. I was forced to continue living a lie at home because I couldn't take pride in the work I was doing, I couldn't have a great day or an experience that fed my soul without it turning into a problem. I can count on one hand the number of truly positive relationships I've seen in the industry. As I've said before, it's like finding a diamond in the Gatineau river. I can't even count the number of relationships where the partner uses the work as leverage to guilt and manipulate the provider into paying all the bills, support unhealthy habits, buy him toys and spoil him, all to keep him happy because he has to share his pussy. It's a finely honed form of extortion because if she were a lawyer or an engineer at the same pay grade, he wouldn't feel entitled to such things. The provider ends up wasting the money she should be investing for her future because she wants someone to love her when in fact she's been turned into the most lucrative client and he has become the most insidious prostitute. The man who seemingly supports but contributes nothing is playing the "I love you" con at its worst; it's the traditional pimps most successful business model... smiles, cat

There are numerous reasons to rebrand. Some are safety related, others are just good business. A name is the foundation of ones brand, it imparts a reaction and can be the difference between getting glory hole seekers/baskin-robbins types or genuine, long term bankable clients. The right name can give a provider more confidence and help change her perspective within the industry. My clients would not be attracted to ads with someone named Cathy; Catherine however, denotes strength of character. An interesting aside, the men who attempt to call me Cathy are always boundary pusher and hagglers. I'm not sure what it means but if I open an email and he starts out trying to call me Cathy, we aren't going to meet because never once has it been a worthy experience for me; even if they are willing to pay my rates. A solid business name makes establishing your desired business model easier. If an ethical provider is changing her name, there is an aspect of her business that she isn't happy with that elbow grease can't fix. Unethical providers change their name as often as they change their contact information. You can't compare the two, they are different in their entirety. smiles, cat

First and foremost, the rate she is advertising now is what should be put in the envelope without any conversation. It doesn't matter what others pay, paying her posted fee is the ethical thing to do. Contacting her to discuss why she discounted her rate to others without knowing her or the situation is beyond inappropriate. She is not obligated to explain her business to anyone but CRA and her bank. Many providers start out in the industry not understanding how to set their prices or fall prey to the organized price vultures that descend on new providers telling them their rates are too high for someone new/safe/young/old/purple or whatever issue the troll behind the keyboard identifies as a potential weakness. When I started in Ottawa, I received a huge number of emails from seemingly different people demanding I give them a discount for various reasons. Some days, those emails made up well over 50% of my inquires and it went on for several months. They assumed I was new to the industry because I came from the US. Later, I discovered there were actually only 6 men behind this email campaign. It was their mission to get me to lower my rates. A new provider will often fall prey to such tactics and sometimes even established providers can as well. Grandfathered rates are the norm in the industry so that could be a factor. The other potential is a financial crisis in her life where she needed to generate funds quicker than usual. She may not have advertised a lower rate but if she felt a client wasn't going to book without a deal, she would do what she needed to do to ensure the cash flow. The thing to remember is that while the reviewers may have enjoyed themselves, there were aspects of the appointment she stripped out that they were simply to obtuse to notice. The one thing that goes thru every providers mind when she is servicing a haggler is a visceral distain within that ranges from mildly annoyed to grossly repulsed. The emotion fills us and stays present not only during the entire appointment but for ever after with a client. Every time he contacts us, that emotion wells up and sits present during every aspect of future encounters. It never goes away and while she may be tolerant because he is a safe, reliable client; the initial haggle leaves a permanent bitter taste in her mouth that out sours a mouthful of spermacidal lubricant. My gentle suggestion would be to simply ignore what others have said about her rates. If her service is positively reviewed, pay the rate on her ad and enjoy. The more clients she gets like you, the faster she can fire the ones who either took advantage of her or treats the intimate services she provides like a commodity. Either way, rest assured she's biding her time till she can safely fire them. I'd put money on it... smiles, cat

I've tried it all and a couple of things worked noticeably for me. Physio is golden and now covered by OHIP if prescribed by your doctor. The second thing is a little hippy witchy but I used isochronic tones at night for pain. I used the ones from Vortex, they're on youtube and they have a 3 hour Theta pain management recording that seems to do the trick. I listen as I fall asleep and it's been almost 18 months since I've had real discomfort. I wasn't disciplined with the physio initially due to how much it hurt to do it so I can't attribute my relief to it. If I skip the tones for more than a couple of weeks, the pain starts to return even with consistent physiotherapy. I also have severe arthritic joint pain and a month ago I started a protocol with DE, iodine and boron. In a week the pain had alleviated into mild discomfort and now its barely noticeable. I'm not sure if it's placebo but I'm at a point where I don't care why it works, just that it does... smiles, cat

Like Meg, I don't pay full retail for anything unless it's consumable and can't found anywhere else on sale. Skilled services; I call someone trusted and buy the materials needed myself on sale. If the materials aren't on sale, I wait until they are. Everything I own has been purchased used, found secondhand or reclaimed from life's discard pile. Quality is a must and retail is out of my league so I find the fabulous at prices that fit my budget. The truth is I love of finding something that has been deemed "unusable" and restore it back to it's former glory and fits my needs perfectly. It keeps it out of the landfills, seriously limits my contribution to the rabid consumerism of todays society and challenges my creativity. I just can't do retail, it gives me indigestion in the store that re-emerges every time I look at the item... smiles, cat

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Taffer, you certainly have inspired a conversation and that's never a bad thing. The key to getting started is to listen to what the ladies here are saying because it is actually very good advice if you're serious. You may see their words as princess statements but every one of them offered you valuable insight into moving forward if you would just step outside your perspective for a moment. I actually do believe there is a small demand for straight male providers, there is just no market. I have a couple of friends who would willing pay regularly for a truly extraordinary experience. They're single and tired of dating, tired of trying to find someone who rocks their world. But that experience would have to be so exquisite in itself because women know the difference and are not satisfied with an orgasm, they can do that for themselves and won't pay for it. Satisfying a woman is so much more than looking good, being friendly and dominant/submissive depending on her mood. They want connection, they want the details and they want the fireworks. Women are far more demanding consumers, just ask anyone who deals with $$$ type services for women. We pay but we want premium service for it. If the handful of responses here try your patience then you're going to have to learn to have a little more because female clients would be all over the tone/voice of your communications. While providers are slightly more aware than our civilian sisters, don't think that we are in any way different in sensibilities. Your desired client demographic would pick up on this quickly once the communication commences. You can espouse Red Pill perceptions but your clients would run because they are the customer and wouldn't want to be intimate with someone who used the word princess in any way other than a genuine fairytale reference. We don't make double their salary, we don't have union benefits nor do we have their employment/income stability. And most providers do work as hard as nurses do, especially the under 35 providers. This aspect of the industry will give you initial sticker shock, trust me. I understand that until you've actually lived the numbers of being a provider it's difficult to fathom but you will understand if you actually follow thru. This is an aspect that experience will correct. These words are a hole in the hull of the ship. Please understand, your targeted demographic will not understand the use of the word princess as a derogatory thing. You are comparing a male clients perspective to female client and it doesn't wash. Women do care about the details, the sheets had better be scented and ironed, the candles had better be scented with something she likes, beverages need to be something she wants, the hotel/incall location must be safe, your grooming must be immaculate, your talents honed and your conversation skills need to be impeccable. You need to understand the art of seduction from every viewpoint, intuit her energy voids and masterfully deliver the fantasy. You also need to be prepared to listen to women espouse vitriol towards men. Female providers constantly listen to what pieces of shit the wife/girlfriend/women in general are from clients. You will need to be prepared to listen empathetically and it needs to be genuine because if you're faking it, she'll figure it out. Separating your personal opinions from what your client needs is paramount. The point I'm trying to make is that it isn't impossible nor is it improbable that women would pay for it. What I'm trying to say is that the amount of self awareness as it relates to the feminine energies would be a tremendous challenge for most men. Women paying for it don't do the "fast food" experience that men prefer. They want a 5 star experience and that is only learned trial and error. The same as men don't want a "wife experience", women don't want a "boyfriend experience"; they want "the fantasy lover" to show up at their door. Could you deliver this? I don't know, only you can assess that. The us vs them gender aspect doesn't serve either side of this industry, providers know this and every time they end up in a room with someone that has resentment towards women; they smile, listen, empathize and then get to work but it's a long term challenge to manage that on a daily basis. A male provider would need to find his center on this as we do. This kind of negativity will kill you if you don't learn to handle it. This is just my opinion, I'm not trolling you or in any way trying to put you down. Every provider on this thread contributed immensely valuable information if someone simply chooses to see it... smiles, cat

Please don't ask or expect details, her family and loved ones deserve to grieve privately. I trust that as a community we will respect Miss Summer's loved ones and our memories of her by honouring her contributions of genuine care and compassion to our community as a whole and not seeking out information that shouldn't be posted online... cat

I enjoy the experience of getting to know a guest prior to a meeting, the exchange builds anticipation and gives me some excellent insight into who's going to walk thru my door. But it's important to realize that it's preferred after a date and time has been set. A few brief exchanges after doing ones research should allow a guest to have enough information to set up a play date, then the flirtation that ensues can flow. The key to remember is that the combined communications from many individuals can become a vortex of time consumption, given the number of people contacting a provider. I recently had to explain to a potential guest it was time to put some skin in the game; either with an in person visit or set up a monthly ecomm/video package as he had taken up just over 15 hours of my focus in less than a month. I normally limit such interactions but this gentleman and I have some chemistry and I decided to see where it went. So far he hasn't booked; if he doesn't book with me by weeks end, he will be listed as a WOT and I won't respond further. I sell my attention, the services are a bonus and I prefer to communicate with people who are genuine potentials and trusted guests because I give my undivided attention when communicating with someone. Just be mindful that it's fun but if you don't intend to book, you're just wasting a persons most valuable asset, time... smiles, cat

It's also important to understand that if a RMT is found to be offering happy endings it's the end of her professional license and legitimate business association. The cost to her would be her career which she has invested in years of training costing thousands of dollars. Not a very smart move to offer it and certainly not at all intelligent for her clients to discuss it on a public forum where her contact information is public. Being a sex worker is a choice and if she has made the choice to be an RMT, she doesn't want to offer happy endings. A little intelligence would go a long way here... smiles, cat

Rest assured, my feathers remain unruffled. Lyla is cyclical and such opinion holders come and go. Recommendations are key in establishing a worthy reputation; without, only a few undesirables will give merit to such unseemly threads. Providers know exactly who writes about them, our ability to match reviews to faces is unparalleled. Unless it's a truly extraordinary experience physically and financially, rest assured it certainly won't take long until your identity is matched to your handle... smiles, cat

To our White Knights who have delightfully replied...I salute you. To the OP, it should be apparent that the ladies of Lyla have no desire to engage with you on any level here. Such thread topics are so obviously in bad taste, it's hard to believe you don't see it. My gentle suggestion would be for you to give deep consideration to how genuinely insightful your thread topics and posts are to providers... smiles, cat

They most certainly could and probably have had during one of Lyla's few incarnations. The wonderful thing is that there are always new comers and the questions are always relevant to someone. It's good to see it revived blacklabdog... smiles, cat