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I've contacted her on quite a few occasions and have never heard back from her.

I'd have to say that my answer is ............ it depends. Anonomous type places like Craigslist never disappoint if one is looking for off color and poorly worded / spelled remarks and coments. Sometimes it's just insluting things about providers and or hobbiests. --- Taken by itself I'd have to say it has no or next to no effect in terms of determining if or not I would potentially consider contacting a SP for me to read one of these "reviews" (if one could call them that). That said occasionally a sp will respond and engage the anonomous poster and that might make me take notice and would almost always negatively effect my thoughts about taking a chance on someone unknown to me. Not that long ago I read one of these back and forth where esentially the SP (assuming it was her) insulted the guy right back and indicated that she should text his spouse. But I mean thats CL and many ads themselves read like angry individuals posting on a dating site listing all the things they hate and all the folks that shouldn't bother even messaging them etc. Anyway generally speaking I'd say the crap on the anonomous sites is rarely taken seriously by anyone and any SP that finds any of them directed towards her -- I strongly encourage to ignore them too because frankly engaging them is beneath you and can't posibly do anything but sully your reputation ..... that or nothing it will never make things better. There are other places where hobbyists and sp's can advertise / research besides BP/CL or CERB. I certainly appreciate the theme of CERB -- but a positive recommendation or nothing kind of site is NOT a review site and as such doesn't exactly cater to hobbyists ...... yes there are lots of good things for a Hobbyist here and the boards themselves are or at least can be a wealth of knowledge. There are other places where actual reviews are shared. I do lend more credence to the information shared there. I've yet to encounter anyone simply trashing a SP and if something approaching that happens it is easy to spot and often challenged ...... and to be honest lots of Negative reviews are followed by hobbyists who pipe up and are very quick to share that their experience was different (better) ..... I'm inclined to consider the poster in those cases, and yes find the information useful and definately influences to some degree my diecision as to how my money and time is spent. So to answer the question ---- for me it depends but some anonymous yahoo is nothing I take too seriously.

She's the real deal , pics are accurate, real fun .... she's a gem.

I honestly thought the first post was a joke / sarcasm attempt.

Forgive my confusion. By "that is an example of one of my ads on C-list" Does that mean the one you linked in your post on this thread was one of your ads (which I can only assume it is) ..... But the ones linked in the first post of this thread are not you? or that in addition to the one you linked ..... The 3 links that are contained in the first post are your ads as well?

I agree with what's been generally posted here ... and it sounds like you do to as you say that you paid the lady in full and excused yourself ------ this tidbit was missing from your first post in this thread and could have contributed to the tone you are feeling that people are trashing you. Had your story been different and you'd arrived to find someone who clearly wasn't the person in the pictures you had seen or had been sent ... I'd perhaps respond with different thoughts .. but it doesn't sound like there was any misrepresentation going on. Last year .... I had an experience with a sp that is the subject of a thread in the bait and switch section. My experience was different from the situation presented in the post here but it was still negative. I'd seen pictures of the sp , they were of her for sure but they were in no way recent. Her hair was a foot or more longer and she was considerably more heavy than her pictures ..... to the point that if I had those pics and was tasked with finding her at a mall foodcourt I don't think I could have. On top of this she had a few more restrictions that weren't revealed to me until well after she had been paid and I was trying to make the best of a disapointing / uncomfortable start to our encounter. In the end it was lesson learned for me and I was even fairly restrained and polite when she asked me for a "tip" before I left. Honestly I wish I had just paid her and excused myself .... but that has less to do with how she looked and more to do with how she acted. With the exception of this one My most disapointing experiences (and their haven't been many of them) have always been with service providers who were very very attractive / stunning / gorgeous etc ... and if one was to be able to put a theme to that disapointment it is when a SP comes off in such a way that for the most point it feels like I'm spending time with someone who is just thinking "Lets get this over with" ........ I can't say for certain how often a sp finds herself feeling that way , I know I feel that way in my job some days ...... but I can say that it's possible you missed out on a terrific experience had you rolled the dice. How do you ploitely say no thanks? I think you did just fine, the way you did it.

Katie is great .... you won't be disappointed.

I believe this is a question that is asked from both sides of the experience quite a bit. The gentleman and situation described in the original post would seem to have unrealistic expectations for sure. I Agree with most posts here your time is what is being offered in the transaction, so the agreed upon start time and end time would seem fairly straight forward ...- I don't know if many of us operate on a truly strict schedule where someone would notice one way or another a minute or two but basically assuming the arrival was within what YOU determine is acceptable I think it's reasonable to say the clock starts ... when you (or the client) arrive(s). 30 minutes as has been referenced is a relatively short appointment. I may have felt differently had the scenario that was presented been something along the lines of Mr.X arrived at 7:01, the clock started at 7:00 and we had agreed to a 30 minute Appointment. followed by either I had to respond to a couple of texts and answer a phone call during this time .. all together those things couldn't have taken much more than 8-10 minutes or upon his Arrival I proceeded to reconfirm everything we had discussed, and or attempted to up sell him unsuccessfully for 10+ minutes before the Donation was accepted. And when 7:30 cam around Mr.X disagreed with me that the time was up. Don't misunderstand I believe the scenario as presented painted a picture of a clueless gent who was in the wrong and I don't believe his contention was either correct or acceptable. I'm not a SP but i have little difficulty believing many could remember experiences that resemble the one you described. It's the kind of unfortunate thing that puts a bad taste in one's mouth. The 2 scenarios I described are not exactly uncommon however, I'd in fact be surprised if any experienced hobbyist hadn't experienced at least one of these examples first hand. Finally the question of When does the clock stop seems to be a somewhat nebulous things to nail down in some cases. Some SP's will talk in terms of up to an hour which seems reasonable if discussed previously however if one is paying for an hour of someone's time for example is it unreasonable to feel short changed if the SP leaves after 1/2 hour, 45 min (whatever) with a kind of a "my work here is done" justification / reasoning?

I agree with all the posts that suggest our small population and folks being sheepish about sharing info for fear of their identity becoming known are possible reasons for the inactivity here. As a hobbiest in 'lil old NB if I'm "cruising" for information I find this sight helpful however others are helpful as well (at least in terms of advertising volume) and a number of SP's certainly don't advertise here exclusively. I'd say that I view the advertisements in NB most often, Courtesan / Escort Discussion would be number 2 , Bait and switch #3 and reviews #4 ...- This would also mimic closely the rate of each having something new listed ... but additionally I'd think it is indicative of what I find useful - Strictly speaking. As far as the remainder of the discussion boards (non local) ... I occasionally browse / lurk and perhaps participate. Perhaps it becomes a question of my (and other's) perceived belonging in this community ... if one is a golf enthusiast they likely post on a golf message board, fly fishing, cooking, automobile restoration, gaming etc ... the same thing. To the OP's specific question I don't know if I'd agree that the rate of reviews, and fewer discussion threads has become a trend ..... there was never many of either and the question and answer outside of is X person legit / any info type questions has rarely had much content .... Although I salute Sophia and others (yourself included) for trying to change this. Aside from the thoughtful reasoning that has been discussed already I'm going to offer an additional train of thought. CERB is a recommendation board, not a review board (I know I know Thank you captain obvious) but as such any Review is going to be a good one. Personally I have to be blown away to consider posting a review (Katie I still owe you one lol) because regardless of the experience ... really we only talk publicly here about positive experiences. I'm not harping or questioning CERB rules ... and I understand totally the concept of YMMV. I'm just saying that generally speaking -- I'd definitely repeat is a different genuine feeling and motivation from no complaints, but I likely won't repeat or I'd repeat circumstantially if a new experience wasn't available to me at the time etc. and of course Clearly it's intuitive that people would never post a recommendation for a negative experience. I can see the value of being positively reviewed on CERB would hold for a sp's business and reputation. I can also see and have experienced reviews being useful for a hobbyist to help "screen" potential experiences with a SP. Frederictonman I'm not sure your contention that more reco's would reduce the amount of "is she legit" type of questions is correct ... and while I'd agree that it would be nice if our board was more active, I don't think a reduction of "is she legit" type of questions is necessarily what the members (all CERB members) would find useful. What I mean is that as mentioned here already NB is a small place ... not all SP's are on CERB, so that means a discussion board specifically designated as courtesan / escort discussion can be useful for hobbyists to ask those questions of other CERB members. There is an often repeated inference that people should be careful with "some" folks that advertise somewhere else where things are more sketchy -- or less vetted. (occasionally this inference is from members here who themselves advertise at these sketchy places) ... in any event a place to ask "is she legit" seems like a option / service that would be popular with would/could-be clients and I think that it has proven popular judging by the relative amount of those type of questions posted. Now some may argue that those posts are viewed but rarely responded to, so what's the value of a short, generic thread that typically goes unanswered? That's not a bad question however I'd submit many of those posts might generate PM traffic and possibly become defacto review threads amongst hobbyists interested in the answers who share information without breaking any site rules.

I would appreciate any info as well

also interested in info

I must say that I find many topics like this very informative .... That's one thing that's great about cerb. First let me say that I feel bad that any sp must endure requests that commodify their services And I also am mindful of the practicality challenges in trying to run a business where customers would be happier feeling like they have ones undivided attention and the best sessions don't seem like sessions at all ...... However a terrific sp in reality creates that feeling for multiple customers, and the fact is that schedules need to be maintained and respected. Everyone is unique and I doubt I'd be considered a typical hobbyist and then again maybe my experience is pretty standard. Typically I'm not able to plan super far ahead of time ... I may go weeks without hobbying at all, and other times I may be open to an opportunity daily for a stretch of time. In any event given that I've been at this for a number of years I have certainly experienced a a vAriety of different scenarios ranging from outstanding / extremely pleased to frustratingly disappointed. On the subject of msog for me it's not even so much that I'd prefer it was offered from the standpoint of multiple shots are my goal or would it make the experience better ( I mean it couldn't hurt) .... But rather because my experience has been that if a sp is agreeable to msog I'm less likely to leave with the age old complaints of clock watcher or a rushed session. I realize that's a generalization that may be full of holes but All I mean by this is that if the sp operates in such a way that it's one shot only and the time available is up to an hour a hobbyist is more likely to find himself in the awkward position of spending the later part of his session with someone who is intent to hurry up and vamoose so to speak ... It also seems to be more acceptable for example that since the event has already happened there's no issues spending the remainder of the time alternating amongst puttering around, returning calls / texts etc .... But she was done focussing on our shared experience as soon as she no longer had to wait for him to cum. It's interesting because I think a hobbyist could be forgiven to assume a 2 hour or more session would include MSOG ..... I also think it's pretty unimaginable that a 1/2 hour appointment could include MSOG for practicality reasons as many post here have mentioned. I don't think it's reasonable to rationalize for example that a 2 hour appointment is the same thing as 2 one hour appointments .... Not do I think it's reasonable to think of a one hour appointment as 2 half hour appointments etc .... It's all about the experience after all. Sometimes however from the perspective of this "experienced" hobbyist an hour long session can feel quite a bit like a half hour session, it just costs more. I've personally never booked a 1/2 hour appointment so my comparison is a bit more metaphorical than literal.

This has been an interesting read. I was thinking Perhaps it simply works both ways .... many hobbyists go into each experience knowing full well and with their eyes wide open that in terms of the experience, Y.M.M.V. ..... but your donation will not! Personally I'd consider it just odd to try and negotiate for a lower rate/price .... and I can appreciate the frustration of a sp who must constantly field this question. In terms of if or not negotiating is disrespectful .... in some cases I remain dubious -- but I'd never do it myself. I've been a hobbyist for a number of years and I realize fully that I'm paying for a service .... I'm in search of an experience. While I have zero experience on the sp side of the equation I do have experience from the POV of the customer. Negotiation in the form of add ons or up selling after the fact, early departure etc is not exactly rare and certainly not non-existant .... and while there may be many sp's reading this that this type of thing does not apply to ... it happens. Add to that the fact that "customers" and "providers" generally find each other initially (these days) via an internet search. I'm confident everyone would agree that the advertisements vary greatly in detail / accuracy / quality etc .... It's not uncommon to see a listing that says "weekend specials" or "Early Bird Specials" or even on here "x Discount for cerb members" along with any number of assertions designed to make the listing stick out from the rest and hopefully generate interest from new clients (I'm assuming "negotiation" isn't an issue with regular clients generally becaus if it was they wouldn't be regular clients). None of this is all that remarkable ....however when hobbyists raise negative issues they've encountered it is often recommended that they / we should look for more reputable service providers like many of the terrific sp's on CERB and avoid taking our chances on BP, CL whatever. While I do not dispute that this is likely good advice ..... I'd expect that service providers would also experience considerably less annoying/disrespectful requests, no shows etc if they booked and interacted exclusively via PM on CERB ...-- That's however likely very unrealistic as it leaves out a large population of potential customers, among which are included individuals that are going to want to haggle on price YMMV.

I have seen her likely 4 or 5 times. The pics are real and I had a terrific time. I haven't seen her in a few months .... she is independent and I believe more part time now ..... I dont know that however my more recent experience has been if she has a bp ad posted she replied quickly ..... a couple days later my texts seemed to go unanswered. anyway the pics are real and she is posting the phone number I had.

What city ? Posted via Mobile Device

It's curious how CL seemed to develop a Moped identity. It was fun till your friends see you ;) Posted via Mobile Device

There's a social groups area? had no idea.

Interesting Thread. I'm going to perhaps be a bit at odds with the responses to date though I agree with what everyone is saying. The original message had to do with some passengers being unreasonable about arriving late do to weather. Thing is for anyone that flies very often, especially with connections are unlikely to be in a super good mood. Gouged at every corner of an airport, arriving hours early to find the majority of check in counters empty etc.. If some flight from parts unknown has 6 people aboard that are connecting to yours and they are delayed ... expect your trip to be effected and ultimately if things go south. Plus flying itself is very stressful for some even if all goes smooth. While you wait to see if you are going to make your meeting or see your family, there is next to no information available and practically no one to ask (if you are looking for an answer)..... and before someone says it's all about safety how can they lose that many bags on a daily basis and still be safe?? I expect many people that do not "lose it" in an airport are not so much polite but in fear of a body cavity search and being turned away should they voice their displeasure with the service/situation. I guess my point is that while I believe the general theme of people becoming less polite in general is true I am not sure the airport is the best example to illustrate this.Consider the folks in this example and simply imagine a few things that MAY have happened prior to the latest delay. Arrived at an airport at 5AM, waited in line while 2 people check in 100 passengers, drop $60 on a couple of bad sandwiches and breakfast, take your seat between 2 300 pound passengers - Arrive at your connection to discover the flight is overbooked and they are offering $100 credits to folks willing to volunteer to give up their seat. Then 2 hours before the weather would be an issue at your destination .... they change your departure time to accommodate a 1/2 dozen passengers that are already delayed but scheduled to board your airplane. Then when you finally take off, legitimate weather forces redirection and delays. The 6 folks who they held the flight for all arrive without their luggage. At every turn of this scenario I believe most would notice that what they are getting back from the airline is void of respect and or politeness. In fact usually it's just the opposite. In terms of the general theme of this site it I think in sharp contrast some service providers here have made a good living due in no small part to an exceptional customer service attitude. The irony is that because of this they are better able to manage their own schedule, life and be selective about what clients they see. Everyone can have a bad day however if these wonderful ladies were to adopt a mechanical, disinterested, clock watching, multiple add on menu pricing for every little thing.... While at the same time they delay or miss appointments with impunity ... I think that perhaps they will have a more difficult time making a go of it in this, or any other business. A rude comment from a client either in person or in the form of a review, while still perhaps unacceptable depending on what is stated .... is less of a surprise depending on how the paying client is treated.

Thanks Everyone for the reviews. I've thought about visiting this Lady for years .... for sure on my must try before I die list.

Thanks for the review. She toured Fredericton Recently and I sent an Email but never heard back. Her photos are certainly impressive

I had an opportunity to visit with Carley pseudo-recently .... truth be told I am unsure as to the exact date but it was in March. Carley has a great location, perhaps not the easiest to find but very clean. The young lady came to the door in a very tight dress and was very sociable. We got the financial aspect taken care of fairly quickly and she suggested we go to the bedroom. What followed was a very energetic session that I'd consider GFE or certainly almost GFE... we didn't kiss (but to be fair I didn't ask to, and I'm self aware enough to know she didn't wake up that morning wanting to lock lips with a 40 year old guy) . It may well be a YMMV situation .... but I think it would have been permitted for me had I been specific. This is my first review and I often find very vague reviews next to useless and very graphic reviews somewhat potentially disturbing to the service providers. So let me just say we got comfortable directly, everything was safe, She was very skilled and seemed enthusiastic, and got things started very nicely. We changed around positions 3 or 4 times She actually suggested something that is an extra (typically, for those with a long menu) ... and certainly acted like she was enjoying it.... I did for sure. We finished up with one very spent and happy customer. It was far from mechanical. I can't speak to MSOG availability but in fairness we certainly finished up towards the bottom of the hour ... anyway at no point was it discussed. She was dressed when I got out of the bathroom lol Again GFE is very subjective and honestly I expect things may change over time as experiences change but I can't imagine anyone not finding this girl to be friendly and Pleasant. Her voice is very young, and if you saw this girl in a night club and she was playfully dancing trust me all eyes would be on her ....... I mean it is clear in that scenario it would be very unlikely that I'd be the guy inside her apartment ... yet when I was there she acted genuinely happy about it! There isn't really an acronym for that but I can tell you that it contrasts directly to the situation where one sits down goes through the checklist, and everything is fine ... but she's just not there. I am a bit of an amateur hobbyist and Fredericton is my home town. I certainly have had other experiences and to be honest this one would rate very highly by comparison. As well when I contacted her I had seen her on cl and she replied to my email. many of the girls there will not, they will only talk on the phone .... in those cases they will never meet me, but to each his own. Anyway she had one picture on her site. Now she has quite a few photos and the prices are higher than they were during our encounter. Not saying they are at all unreasonable now but it was different for me that day. It's almost cliche to read everywhere that her pictures don't do her justice but I'd bet an afternoon with good lighting and a good SLR camera I'd have some photos that would knock your sox off!! I think what doesn't come across is that her skin is fantastic, her breasts are perfect and look incredible...... 36 D's wouldn't look right. She is tall and many girls would have to work hours every day to have that body. If she does kudos if she doesn't I can't imagine the Pin Up she'd be! So Overall I would have to say very satisfied. I would certainly repeat and recommend.

CHANTAL IS A PHONEY - m4w (SAINT JOHN) I emailed the dude and will report back..... anyyay just a heads up