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Heard the interview live Friday (June 19), morning on CBC ottawa.. Handled interview like a champ. Awesome. especially Erin's comment about "shaking XX"

Illuminating, feedback, we'll have to chat over a nice cup of guatemalia antigua coffee

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Seems its a tempest in a teapot. The public eye is turned on the business of sex, doesn't mean it an epidemic, just good marketing from the networks to pull viewers. Heck, the balanced portrayal below published by one of Canada's prestigious papers could also be taken as a sign of societal maturity, while the Canadian legal system hangs back in antiquity. Doc shocks with startling Canadian facts On the Globeand mail March 27, 2009 Like everyone else, we are feeling the pain of living in an economic dustbowl. Canadians are buying fewer big-ticket items such as cars and big-screen TVs, and pinching pennies on essentials such as groceries. In fact, the only recession-proof businesses appear to be drive-through coffee shops and prostitution. Somehow Canadians can always find money for donuts - and sex. But is paying for sex breaking the law? The Business of Sex (tonight at 10, CTV) provides a primer on the current state of the sex trade in this country. Written and directed by veteran journalist Robert Duncan, the new documentary will likely shock some viewers, though not with scenes of gratuitous nudity or graphic sex talk - there's neither. Instead, The Business of Sex shocks with startling but true Canadian facts. Did you know, for example, that prostitution is not actually against the law in Canada? As explained patiently in the film by attorney Clayton Ruby, Canadian bawdy house laws prohibit prostitutes from having a regular place to conduct business, among other astounding vagaries; the act of money exchanging hands for making whoopee is not illegal. Our government does not condone prostitution, though it does acknowledge its existence: the film points out that sex-trade workers have their own category on the Canadian tax form. "Isn't that amazing?" says Duncan, who previously took the Canadian health-care system to task in the documentary Medicare Schmedicare. "That might be one of the most staggering pieces of information in the entire program. On one hand the government is castigating the sex business, on the other hand sex workers are getting a tax number. It's pretty remarkable." A fast flip through the back pages of some free newspapers is evidence the sex trade is booming here. The Business of Sex focuses on the biggest markets in B.C. and Ontario, which combined provide gainful employment for an estimated 20,000 sex workers, almost all women. Less than 15 per cent are street hookers, which leaves the rest to work the safer, and more lucrative, field of private escorting. The escorts interviewed in the film instantly dispel any pre-existing notion of the trashy streetwalker. "There are no stereotypes in the sex business today," Duncan says. "We expected to meet these bimbos with serious psychological issues, but the women we talked to were very reasonable. Just nice, intelligent women, getting through life their own way." Women like Ironica Lamour (not her real name), who works as a private escort in Vancouver: The very normal-looking Lamour has been in the sex game five years and seems to enjoy it. Like most escorts today, she books the majority of her clients through her website. "The Internet is the new version of the pimp," says Duncan. In a reenactment, Lamour details the accepted transaction ritual that takes place between escort and clients; the money is discreetly left in an envelope and then counted in the bathroom. A little chit-chat, and on with the deed. The Web has also boosted the client list for Belle, who works as a private escort in the Niagara region (the single mother of four wears a gaudy mask to shield her face in the interview). Belle charges $180 an hour and estimates she pulls in $180,000 a year turning tricks. Last year, mom's part-time job took the family to Disney World for 10 days. Belle says she went into the business as a personal experiment, and specializes in middle-aged and elderly men. "Belle was quite emotional about what she does for a living," says Duncan. "She really believes she's providing an important service." The program interviews one of Belle's regular customers, called Simon (not his real name). Simon also wears a mask, and alters his voice, very likely because he's an ordained minister. Known in the trade as a hobbyist, Simon is also married and estimates he spends around $10,000 a year on sex. And if the missus found out? "She would lynch me," he says. For a different perspective on all this, the film visits Germany, where brothels are legal and apparently pull in more than 40 billion Euros each year. The cameras go inside Berlin's infamous Artemis brothel, a newly built sex palace where men pay 70 Euros to enter and walk around in bathrobes, then work out private deals with prostitutes. Mondays and Tuesdays are half-price days for cabbies and seniors. A tacky business, to be sure, but prostitution presumably fills some sort of public need, and are casinos any classier? The film goes into the ongoing efforts of Canadian sex workers to establish legal brothels in this country. The arguments remain the same: Government-run brothels would provide a cleaner, safer environment for sex workers, and nobody would be standing under streetlights. The film's most spirited pro-brothel proponent is Toronto lawyer and law professor Alan Young, who is mounting a challenge to the law prohibiting legal brothels. Young decries the current law as arbitrary, and says it does more harm to society than good. "He makes a very good argument," says Duncan, whose production offices are situated in the middle of downtown Vancouver's notorious Eastside, where street hookers roam day and night. "In making the film I've become a supporter of legalized brothels, just on the basis of safety. I wouldn't want any of my daughters to become hookers, but if they did, I'd want them to be safe."

Nice to see you back. About that MI, hope your doc told you about the use of vigra/cialis like drugs and how they interfere with some primary drugs used to treat heart attacks. Other than that, go have fun. suburb1

Hi CK, using Firefox/3.0.7, no issues so far using Vista. Had to tweak the Firefox options pirvacy settings. Tried Cerb chat a few minutes and seems to work..no problem logging in. My two cents, generally i have found Firefox faster and more reliable than IE. Good luck sorting it out.

Dreamer, thanks for being such a contributing and sharing member of this board. Your input and open advice--not to mention recommendations- will be missed. I hope you pause occassionally to sample the local ambience and hoist a few in memory of times good and bad. Its the journey and the people along the way that makes it worthwhile. Happy travelling.

Very much on point Dummpy. As you indicated, it is all about the dialogue and finding a mutual level of comfort, nourrish the interaction and you may have an entire new vista of sensuality open up; a special woman may just reset your clock :) Merry christmas everyone

Damm nice trip down memory lane..on the bank of the Thames River in full view of the womens residence. On a bus, Montreal to Toronto- had chatted up a fellow student-she in law, me science..got hot fooling around and had to close the deal :). Awesome BJ in CN Bubble car going from Calgary to Vancouver through the rockies, with all the other tourists oblivious to the deed. Doggied assistant professor at Queens U in library stacks; yea she took advantage of a youngster :) (got caught by a student but left us alone). Lobby of the Park hotel, The Hague, late at night with a dutch hottie (desk clerk about 20 ft away watching TV). Midmorning 69 with GF in a hammock on the beach in Veracruz. Office (door but partial walls-cubicle) in Tunneys Pasture, with admin staff all around,. Tupper building boardroom, Parking lot experimental farm, Roof of Sussex Labs building across from External Affairs with a graduate student - just thinking of this one get me up LOL could see the folks working away in their offices--maybe they had a nice view too!!. Balcony of hotel in Brazil, a fantastic moonlit night to dine outdoor.:-D

Folks, Emma A nailed it; genetically and biologically, we more alike than the small differences, that are dwelt upon, suggest... so lets move on..love thy neighbour etc>>>

Yes, it sure is disconcerting but nice, reexperiencing those feelings of years bygone, in the most unexpected manner and stage of life :???:. I still experience these emotions over a year later after meeting and really getting in sync with a very hot and intelligent SP. It's a crazy life afterall! Enjoy!!

Dreamer, Nice review. "This is the kind of girl that if I dated her we would never leave the bedroom" Now if you never left the bedroom you wouldn't be calling it dating :grin:

Hello Ava and Dummpy. With regards to Ava's posting> Lets consider the US situation, it is not as comparable to Canada, given the demographics, the use of drugs and the much larger gay and bisexual community. The US Centers of Disease Control data, show a disproportional HIV and STDs infection rate in the african american population compared with Caucasians and asians. Due to historical and continuing social inequities such as education, access to health care and information, depressed economics and a certain social butterfly subculture. So even though they are our neighbours, the statistics do not lend themselves to direct application to Canada. There is a wrinkle to this, immigration from HIV endemic areas to Canada of individuals who show no symptoms and do not test positive for HIV, though they many years later after their arrival develop symptoms, may unknowingly infect partners. Also, in Canada some of the highest rates of infection is in our indigenous northern populations (HC data). Therefore while the US trends are interesting and useful for my fellow Cerbites to pay attention to, if they play in the US, the Canadian data is more reliable in shaping our attitude when playing domestically. Dummpy, my man, the information used to indicate a link between oral play and STDs, with the exception of Herpes Simplex II, is based on a statistical association of what people recall as the type of sexual play they had been involved in over the weeks before the symptoms appeared. This type of -epidemiological data- allows the identification of association not cause and effect. So the learned Ladies and Gents (WHO, HC, CDC) will not be able to deliver the smoking gun of absolute proof. What they will be able to indicate, and do say, is that it is likely that there is a probability greater than zero, that indulgence in oral sex with multiple partners may result in transmission of an STD etc. The risk is only zero if you give it up. :>). oh those wasted years of postgrad education finally comes in handy lol

Woman Suffers Orgasm-Related Stroke Sept. 16, 2008 (WebMD) Sex triggered a life-threatening stroke in a healthy 35-year-old Illinois woman, her doctors report. Sex- and orgasm-triggered strokes in relatively young women and men are rare, but not unheard of. They require a combination of factors and events not unusual in themselves, but which are highly unlikely to occur at the same time. The 35-year-old woman's symptoms were typical of this unusual kind of "cryptogenic" stroke, says Jose Biller, MD, professor and chair of the neurology department at Loyola University, Chicago. "This young woman ... while having intercourse had numbness on the left side of her face, slurred speech, and weakness in her left arm," Biller tells WebMD. "When she was transferred to our care six hours after onset, she was completely unable to move her left arm, her face was paralyzed, her speech was garbled, and she was in a state of panic." It was too late to inject the woman with the clot-busting drug tPA, which must be given within three hours of a stroke. So Biller's team quickly ran a catheter from an artery in the woman's groin up into her brain to find the blood clot by angiography. Once it was found, they had only one option: to apply tPA directly to the clot. It was a risky decision. "We did this with a lot of sweat," Biller says. The woman's symptoms began to improve almost immediately; within an hour she was out of the woods and within 12 hours the symptoms were almost gone. Today she is well, with only an almost imperceptible fold in the skin under her nose and slight loss of dexterity in her left hand. Stroke From Sex Why did sex trigger this young woman's stroke? She shared one thing in common with six other young people who suffered sex-related strokes: a small opening in the wall between the two upper chambers of her heart. One in four adults has this minor heart defect, called a patent foramen ovale or PFO. A PFO allows some blood to flow from the right side of the heart to the left side. This blood bypasses the lung and goes straight to the brain. Most people with a PFO have no symptoms and don't know they have it. But 40% of people who suffer a cryptogenic stroke -- stroke of no known cause -- have a PFO. Blood flow through a PFO increases when a person strains, such as bearing down during a bowel movement or breathing out with the mouth closed and nostrils pinched shut. It also happens during sex, particularly during orgasm, says Brett L. Cucchiara, MD, director of the Penn Stroke Center at the University of Pennsylvania. Cucchiara was not involved in the Biller report, but studied two cases of sex-related stroke in 2006. "In one of the cases we presented, it is a little embarrassing, one woman had stroke onset coincident with orgasm and having this sort of spontaneous guttural utterance or moan," Cucchiara tells WebMD. But just having a PFO isn't enough to cause a stroke. A person also must have a blood clot, and that blood clot must break loose and enter the heart just in time to be sucked through the PFO during sex. Normally a small blood clot would simply get stuck in the lungs and dissolve. But a blood clot that passes through a PFO can lodge in the brain and cause a stroke. Biller's team did indeed find that their patient had a small blood clot in her leg, probably as a side effect of the oral contraceptives she used for birth control. "This is a rare occurrence," Biller stresses. "The vast, vast, vast majority of people with PFOs go through life and never have any problems," Cucchiara says. "You have to keep this risk of stroke during sex in perspective. The risk is very low. "If you develop sudden neurological symptoms during sex, it could be a stroke and you need to seek help urgently and go to the emergency room," Cucchiara says. "But you should not spend a lot of time worrying about this. Even if you have a PFO, of all the things to worr about in life, this ranks near the bottom in risk." There are devices available for closing PFOs. But Biller and Cucchiara both note that doctors currently don't recommend this procedure -- even for most people who have already suffered a stroke. That recommendation didn't convince Biller's young patient. "She was scared to death, and she and her boyfriend and family were pushing us very hard to close the defect, so that is what we did," Biller says. "So she had the device implanted to close the PFO." Biller's report appears in the September issue of the Journal of Stroke

Dummpy good analysis using the WHO figures. For an in Canada perspective with more recent data see the links below: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/std-mts/stidata97-06/chlamydia-eng.php http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/std-mts/stidata97-06/gonorrhea-eng.php http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/std-mts/stidata97-06/syphilis-eng.php HIV reported cases to public health agency Public Health Agency of Canada. HIV and AIDS in Canada. Selected Surveillance Tables to June 30, 2007 Full reportat http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/aids-sida/publication/survreport/pdf/tables0607.pdf Link below is a excellent read for a good overview of the Canadian HIV landscape. Estimates of HIV prevalence and incidence in Canada, 2005 http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/06vol32/dr3215ea.html "...Approximately 58,000 Canadians were estimated to be living with HIV infection. This number will likely increase as new infections continue and survival improves due to new treatments, which will mean increased future care requirements. An estimated 2,300 to 4,500 new infections occurred in Canada in 2005, slightly higher than was estimated for 2002. However, the increase cannot be stated with certainty due to the level of precision associated with the estimates; a firmer conclusion is that overall incidence is not decreasing." 'Abstaining' Teens Still Get STDs Study Finds Those Who Pledge Virginity Less Likely To Use Condoms Teens who pledge to remain virgins until marriage have the same rates of sexually transmitted diseases as those who don't pledge abstinence, according to a study that examined the sex lives of 12,000 adolescents. Those who make a public pledge to abstain until marriage delay sex, have fewer sex partners and get married earlier, according to the data, gathered from adolescents ages 12 to 18 who were questioned again six years later. But the two groups' STD rates were statistically similar. The problem, the study found, is that those virginity "pledgers" are much less likely to use condoms. Complete story at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/09/health/main604877.shtml

Frinto, some of our members have already provided some information on latency time to the appearance of STD symptoms and a recommendation to get checked out. Perhaps it would be in your interest to learn a bit more about STDs from a fairly credible source, so you can continue in the hobby better equipped. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/tutorials/sexuallytransmitteddiseases/htm/index.htm

Sex chemistry 'lasts two years' Certain hormones are active during the 'acute love' phase Couples should not worry when the first flush of passion dims - scientists have identified the hormone changes which cause the switch from lust to cuddles. A team from the University of Pisa in Italy found the bodily chemistry which makes people sexually attractive to new partners lasts, at most, two years. When couples move into a "stable relationship" phase, other hormones take over, Chemistry World reports. But one psychologist warned the hormone shift is wrongly seen as negative. Dr Petra Boynton, of the British Psychological Society, said there was a danger people might feel they should take hormone supplements to make them feel the initial rush of lust once more. 'Not ever-lasting' The Italian researchers tested the levels of the hormones called neutrophins in the blood of volunteers who were rated on a passionate love scale. It is suggesting that what happens first is the best bit - and that isn't true Dr Petra Boynton, British Psychological Society Levels of these chemical messengers were much higher in those who were in the early stages of romance. Testosterone was also found to increase in love-struck women, but to reduce in men when they are in love. But in people who had been with their partners for between one and two years these so-called "love molecules" had gone, even though the relationship had survived. The scientists found that the lust molecule was replaced by the so-called "cuddle hormone" - oxytocin - in couples who had been together for several years. Oxytocin, is a chemical that induces labour and milk-production in new and pregnant mothers. Donatella Marazziti, who led the research team, said: "If lovers swear their feelings to be ever-lasting, the hormones tell a different story." Similar research conducted by Enzo Emanuele at the University of Pavia found that levels of a chemical messenger called nerve growth factor (NGF) increased with romantic intensity. After one to two years, NGF levels had reduced to normal. 'Real Cupid's arrows' The researchers said: "Whether more nerve growth is needed in the early stage of romance because of all the new experiences that are engraved into the brain, or whether it has a second, as yet unknown function in the chemistry of love, remains to be explored." Michael Gross, a bio-chemist and science writer who has studied the latest findings, said: "It shows that different hormones are present in the blood when people are acutely in love while there is no evidence of the same hormones in people who have been in a stable relationship for many years. "In fact the love molecules can disappear as early as 12 months after a relationship has started to be replaced by another chemical glue that keeps couples together." He added: "To any romantically inclined chemist, it should be deeply satisfying to be able to prove that chemical messengers communicate romantic feeling between humans." "It may be the only thing that science can offer as a real-world analogy to Cupid's arrows." But Dr Boynton said: "This feeds into a 1970s view that when you meet it's all sparky, and then it's a downward trajectory to cuddles - which is seen as a negative. "It is suggesting that what happens first is the best bit - and that isn't true." She added: "I'm concerned that, having identified these hormones, there will be some move to suggest replacements to recreate the early passion." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4669104.stm So each time we find a new favorite, we reclaim those heady days of carnal sex...yippee. At least I have an excuse now..it all my chemistry's fault

JoyfulC glad you didn't say U worked on a PDP11:smile:

Seymour , you have been a busy boy, made a list and damm if you didn't make out with my all time sweetheart. Ok buddy, like CK said. look forward to reading of your scrumptious vacation.

Never got to Russia, but Czech wheatlight and tight ranks up there :mrgreen:

On the alabaster altar...homage to the Goddess..Eyes lowered tingling with anticipation..ye who aspire to write with the most private of scribes on the "Paige" , rejoice!! She has chosen to rest amongst you, giving audience to chosen suppliants in need of enlightenment.

OK, just weird, is this for real? Do we all need therapy? X-Files? star David Duchovny, 48 , who currently plays a womanizing writer on the cable television series ?Californication,? said on Thursday he has entered a facility for treatment of sex addiction. In January, he won a Golden Globe Award as best comic actor for playing an oversexed single dad and novelist struggling with writer?s block in the Showtime series ?Californication. ?I have voluntarily entered a facility for the treatment of sex addiction,? he said in a statement released through his lawyer, Stanton ?Larry? Stein. ?I ask for respect and privacy for my wife and children as we deal with this situation as a family.?

Eve, a new dreamy connection to your arrival here :) nice touch

Well these two gents did share one willing lass, as was described ever so tastefully. As a supporting case, don't know whether university years qualify :), because a buddy and myself (in my hormone driven youthm undergrads)l ended up sharing the same girl, after we three got real comfy, over a fall weekend..Yea, it was a one time thing and as far as I know both of us were and still are straight. The variety of activities were definitely not as extensive as Incognito's and Dummpy's adventure (the linda lovelace experience was still a fantasy), we were young and new to the whole sex thing, plus it was totally bareback.