masterowls

Your point is well taken, however, it's my belief that by calling herself a service provider, and then not providing service over and over again, the lady in question has already violated the spirit of CERB. You're right in that this is a safe place for women to participate, however that keyword is missing in this lady's ethics. There should be a way in place for guys to inform other guys if a provider is bad;, just as there is a bad date list for providers. Again, this is only my opinion.

Okay guys, just my two cents here. This site is called the Canadian escort recommendation board. I would say that if somebody is ruining your experience by not showing up, the best way to prevent it from happening again is to start naming the person doing it. Maybe she's relying on people being too scared of ruining her reputation, and has got lazy. Not only do escorts and the other SPs need to stick together against bad clients, we clients need to start sticking together, and telling each other about the service or lack of service, so that only the professional, polite, and punctual get work. I'm sorry, but if some one stood me up, after I made firm plans, and didn't explain herself, the very first thing I would do is post her name, exactly what happened, and recommend that no one called her, because she is unreliable. That may sound extreme, but at least it saves the next guy some time. It does no good to post five 0pages of complaints if the girl is anonymous because she still out there, potentially pulling the same crap on other clients. Which only makes it more difficult for the girls who legitimately want work, because trust becomes eroded. Again this is only my opinion.

Speaking only for myself, when I see an SP, I'm paying her to be with Me. If she wants her boyfriend there, so be it as long as said boyfriend doesn't interfere with the fun.

1 no should suffice if you say no once and the guy persists, he should be gone. your body, your rules... end discussion.:) Additional Comments: Guys, Lets try to remember here, when we pay for a GFE, what we're paying for for that session is a bit more intimacy in the experience. We want them to treat us less like clients and more like friends/boyfriends. Ok, but let's remember here that cuts both ways. If your girlfriend said "Don't do that, I'm not into it." you'd have to be pretty dense to keep it up right? Why therefore do we expect our lovely SP's to put up with acts they aren't into? Treat our GFE providers like the queens they are, and they'll treat us like Kings. What's so hard here?:)

The bottom line here (no pun intended) is that attempting to perform DATO, or any other act on any unwilling woman, regardless of whether she has been paid or not it is a form of rape. I would suggest, if you are not 100% sure something is okay, it should be confirmed before you attempt it. Not only could you find yourself without an SP, but at her discretion, you could face criminal charges, which would follow you for life. Just an observation.

Meg, it really isn't a matter of my father trying to monopolize my life so much as it is his concern about my being so far in a financial hole. I can definitely understand his point of view. He even understands my point of view. The problem is, we both believe that we are right, and we are extremely stubborn. LOL that's why we agreed to disagree. I'm very fortunate actually, in that my dad is also currently my best friend in the world. I just wanted him to see that there is some reasonable logic to my position.

Thanks for all the responses. It's nice to be able to show people, (especially my dad) who see the money I spend on the hobby as, "More than half your month's income for 2 hours of fun when you could use the cash paying bills" that there is some logical reason I have to use the money in a way they may not always think is smart. And before I get bombarded with "don't go into debt to support your hobbying" posts, I actually don't. Every month after my bills get paid, I'm left with about %10 cash. I bank that until sufficient money is on hand to pay for a session.My dad, who just happens to be my roommate and knows I owe several thousand in cc debt, simply sees the saving for sessions as money I ccould reporpose to getting debt free faster. Which I admit from his POV is true, but then HE isn't the one dealing with my body, and frankly if being pain free for a number of weeks means I'm out of debt in August instead of June 2012.. I can live with that.:) We've agreed to disagree on the whole hobbying vs paying debt thing because I'll never get him to see past the cash and he'll never convince me that being pain free isn't worth 2 lousy cc paynents...lol

I agree. The 1 and only time I was ever even late to an appointment the skytrain I was on broke down and my cell died. I still showed up, and paid for the full hour even tho it actually ended up being a quickie cause she'd booked a guy right behind me Not her fault I was late, she booked the time I asked, it's just fairI paid. Additional Comments: That depends where you're from Lexxy, I've lived damn near 3 years in Lethbridge and unless you're willing to go agency, which I don't do for a few reasons, there isn't anyone any closer than Calgary that I've found ("bout 4 hours by car, which I don't have) FORTUNATELY there's a girl I know from Calgary who's willing to plan weekend trips here around when I want dates. She's a sweetie and I just might have to stuff the envelope some, And get her wine and flowers ta boot...:)

Actually, that is one reason why I am a big believer in legalized, or at least decriminalized prostitution. If it weren't illegal, I could then push for prostitution as a treatment strategy for my pain. In the Netherlands they actually have government programs to pay prostitutes to see severely disabled men. They do this because studies have shown that having access to regular sex is both a physical benefit, and in some cases therapeutic for behavioral and mental problems as well. I don't see why we couldn't have similar programs except that prostitution is still illegal (or a least solicitation is). My next question is how long does the government plan to waste valuable resources trying to enforce laws that obviously don't work? I think as stated in another thread that government should be regulating the industry rather than suppressing it.

It does help for a few weeks after a session, you're right... that's why I can last 8 weeks between sessions. Unfortunately it's a bit like taking Tylonol to replace Morphine... eventually the body notices the difference, so what I do is save a few bucks in what I refer to as a project fund each month... then when I can afford some time, I find some kindly SP and then have her restore my pain relief...:)

Thank you for the compliment Jasper. I have also noted said big dumb grin on my face after a session. If you ever get to Calgary, check out Allie Huggins, you won't stop grinning for weeks :-). Additional Comments: Unfortunately, due to things like muscle spasms, old surgeries that didn't work out right, and certain physical deformities botox and cortisone injections are not real options, and to top it all, I'm immune to almost all prescription pain medications, as well as all over-the-counter pain medications. The funny thing is, as I said in the original post, a session with an SP can relieve my pain for up to three weeks. And by relieve, I mean completely eliminate. I thought I was completely crazy, it's nice to know that it's not my imagination. By the way, my disability is severe cerebral palsy, which over the years has been aggravated by well-meaning, but unfortunately incompetent doctors. My last surgery was actually to have my en tire hip joint on both sides, as well as about 6 inches of femur (the bone between the hip and knee) permanently removed. This was done to correct a problem I had for 25 years before I could get anyone to acknowledge that there was a problem. I apologize to any doctors out there that may be offended by me calling members of your profession incompetent, however I'm sure you can understand my frustration.

I'm just wondering, if I'm the only one who's had this experience. Many of you who have read my previous posts will know that I'm physically disabled. What you may not know is that there is a significant amount of pain involved. (Muscle pain, joint aches, missing joints etc. etc...) Over the years I have found that visiting an SP for two hours every 6 to 8 weeks can eliminate all the above mentioned pain completely. My question is am I a unique case, or has anybody else heard of, or experienced something similar themselves?

I'm not sure if the particular service that I use has a branch office in the Ottawa, but there are usually mobile computer repair services either in the yellow pages, or online. They usually charge between 60 and $80 an hour. The advantage to this is that you can supervise the work and make sure they don't mess up your computer, or do extra work you didn't ask for and then charge extra. Most of the mobile service technicians are required to have at least Microsoft certification, and usually have a degree in information-technology, or electronics. Some of them actually used to work for a major computer manufacturer. They might be a good bet.

Speaking for myself here. I would actually consider it a backhanded compliment to be the SO of an SP, for a few reasons. Not the least of which is, after an appointment she chooses to come home, or go out with me. I mean other guys pay her to spend time with them and here she is willingly spending valuable personal time with me... That would be a rather large ego boost. Secondly, lets face it there's more to a relationship than sex. To have an emotional connection with someone is the most valuable thing in the world, For an SP to give access to her emotions to me, that right there would be a high compliment. However, I must state here for the record, I have an ex, who dated me for 4 months before confessing she was a retired street level sexworker, who han't used protection, or been tested. I feel that any SP who has an SO, and doesn't give that person the option _right away_ to decide if they can deal with the SPs work has committed the ultimate breach of trust.

From what I understand, never having had it, the provider has some to most of the control over how deep, how fast and how hard penetration gets during greek. It's a bit different when she's trusting some guy to stick 1 or more fingers in there. Ask anyone who's ever had tp endure digital rectal stim in hospital or a rehab center how unpleasant it gets if dpne badly. Additional Comments: Just curious, how long have you been hobbying? Because in my 20 + years. I've met a lot of providers, and they have all had rules. Some have more rules than others, some relax rules as trust increases. I've never had a no rules date though. As a general rule, my approach to anything new with my regular SP is something like, "hey sexy, I've never done ____. would you mind if we try?" Asking never hurts, the worst she'll do is say no. Incorrect assumptions can wreck moods fast.

Maybe a bank for sexiness...yeah, but you certainly don't look like any RBC I'VE ever seen...lol xxxooo

I have a question. Most women I see, (escort, MA or what ever) keep their numbers nice and round to avoid all that mess in the first place. If that is the case, and the guy can't be bothered to bring the correct amount, does he really deserve change to begin with? I actually find it sort of disrespectful that he would even ask.

Now THAT's a brilliant idea.... I'll take 4 pair if you wanna make them... I've been looking for a way around this issue myself for 20 years... That is why I know tear offs have a few drawbacks. Been there tried it...lol:)

Sara, the tear away jogging pants idea is good in principle. They are easier to undo in order to get access, however there is one problem. Speaking as a guy in almost the exact position as Al, including having the same disability, they are unfortunately extremely difficult if not impossible for us to close after we are finished, which would make for some pretty embarrassing moments. LOL

I tend to agree with you. The vast majority of clients do expect sex. However, I find at least for myself, sex without kissing and cuddling, purely mechanical and largely unsatisfying, so I would say that a little cuddling is also part of the job. At least in my case. I also agree that most paid companions do take pride in providing excellent service, and will do almost anything they consider reasonable to make the client happy. That's how a client become a regular client.

I don't think anyone who has been married would deny that there is always a cost to sex. (Although in my case I never got any anyway) my wife used to only hold my hand if she wanted me to do something in return. Never once, not even on the wedding night did she even offer me a hand job let alone anything else. If I wanted to touch her, it was on her terms. I can categorically say that there is some cost for every act, especially sex. The only difference is that we hobbiests , prefer to pay up front. LOL :-)

I personally think that whether you consider a session with a Paid companion a date, depends on the connection you feel with the lady. For me, the first session _is_ usually about the sex. After that, if I feel a connection with her on more than a sexual level, I tend to refer to her as a friend with mutual benefits, and call future sessions dates. I'm actually just getting back into the hobby after a two-year break for medical reasons. (I had a rare operation called a bilateral hip resection, and because of a mistake, I had to have the same operation redone) when I have the financial resources, I plan to make this session the best "date" I can. I think I've earned it. Those of you who are interested in learning exactly what the operation entails, can send me a private message.

I have some experience with street walkers. As to why they are considered a nuisance, it's generally the owners of the property the girls are working in front of Who consider them to be a problem. Imagine for instance that you were trying to run a bar, in general street walkers are hostile to women, as they consider them competition. Eventually women who are not working, will stop attending your bar because they don't want to deal with the abuse from the prostitute outside. This means that the number of men attending your bar goes down by a proportionate number as well. Eventually causing the bar to become unprofitable. Unfortunately, the same principle translates very well into other areas. I tend to agree with mod, street-level prostitution needs to be decriminalized and properly regulated and policed.

I agree with Meg, chemistry always plays a part.I would however, also like to point out that ejaculation, and orgasm do not necessarily occur simultaneously even for men. I'm sure many professional companions do become excited with some clients whether or not that excitement becomes a real orgasm is probably dependent on the exact situation.

Here Here Encore! Additional Comments: As much as I hate to disagree, the crux of the matter, is that rather than making public solicitation for the purposes of sex illegal, and attempting to enforce a law that is for all intents and purposes completely unenforceable, that money, which is publically funded, would be better spent catching people who rape someone, or abuse children. Even the police themselves publicly admit they will never completely stop prostitution. Therefore the logical question, is "if we can't stop it, how can we make it safer for everyone in all aspects of sex work?" Don't get me wrong, I don't like seeing women walking the street. I think it shows very little pride, and does attract other problems, but there are appropriate solutions.. These may include brothels, a legal red light district, or providing some form of financial aide to women who want to move from street work to escorting. As far as I know, at least in BC a woman who gets arrested for solicitation of prostitution for the first time usually gets about six months probation, most of them are usually back on the same street within two weeks of sentencing. The penalties for subsequent offenses do tend to get a little more serious. Of course my information might be out of date now.