Loki318

If you do follow up and are satisfied a review here might get the poor girl more business ... maybe even enuf so she could raise her prices ??? :)

This will probably sound like a "newbe" question but I guess there is still a bit of newbe left in the most jaded of us :) When you Tour, do you always or just some times work out of Hotels? If you do work out of Hotel do you let the management know up front what is going on? Has "management ever given you any trouble like asked you to leave? I know I have some times been given the "eye" from a prudish desk clerk or it could have been my imagination LOL I guess the reason behind all this is the fact that I am going to be out of the hobby for at least the next 8 week and off sex all together for that same length of time and I have been sort of thinking that either a trip to Upper Canada or an invite to a Fine lady or Ladies from to here migh be a way to celibrate my eventual return to the hobby in the spring :oops: Loki318

When suspicions arise Deny Deny Deny; Even when caught in the act Deny Deny Deny Deny Deny Deny Until you believe it yourself Loki318

I am planning a trip to Red Deer again in about two months I will unfortunately only be able to sample Incall Is that MP place still in operation? Is there any thing new in town? Loki318

It was Oct 14 1981 and it lasted all night .... a particularly rough time in the marriage, after a particularly tragic accident that took out all of my siblings, and I was thinking "Is that all there is !" I went looking I had heard about this SC in Maine where you could "hire a date" after the show or maybe sooner on a slow night ......... I took me a few visits before I got up the nerve to ask LOL but when I did WOW It was an all night affair we went at till we feel asleep then one or the other of us would wake and we would go again, and one final time in the shower before I took her back late the next morning..... I don't remember her name and never did see her again :( It was an experience that I have only been able to duplicate a couple of times sence :) Loki3188-)

Trent In my experience most hotels will allow an early checkin if you phone them a day or so in advance but they look at you a bit strange when you check in at 3 and want to check out at 6 LOL Been there done that, called home for an emergency, Evening meetings canceled etc etc LOL Loki318

Though I am far from inocent I would need the none option too :) Loki318

A Recommendation is such a small thing compared to a really good "date" the value is far far from equal! IMHO I cant really say what I would do in the sp's shoes but what would come to mind would be to terminate the "date" before it began and also report him to the MOD (as we know they have ultimate power) of what ever forum he is on. Now if he is a really hot "date" (like me) and you would probably do him just for the fun of it any then well it might be worth it .....ROFLAO now Loki318

This sounds sooo like me many years ago and more than once have wanted to just walk, and keep on going..... Then i would look around at my friends and peer's the ones that were split or splitting were for the most part miserable, and seriously broke, the ones that were together were not much better, and one day I asked the male half of a together couple how they did it, stayed and stayed happy? After a long talk I realized that he was no different than any one else but they just were handling it better. It was about then that I decided to stay together no matter what, for the kids but not just for the kids for now but for their future, what i mean there is I realized that in a "split" all the assets are divided 3 ways hers mine and the Lawyers, and tween her and the Lawyer I would have nothing and nothing to pass on to the kids and their kids. This isn't the "right" decision for everyone but has been for me). You mention the Guilt, I don't know when I learned how to handle that maybe it was when I started to suspect that she had some on the side or when the family Doc confirmed it when she said "You caught that from your wife". (a minor sti ) [in reference to another thread, the only sti I ever had I caught from my SO ] I think and this is just my opinion you need to ask your self how involved you want to be in your kids life, in this way if you decide to stay you are staying for you and your desire to be a large part of their life... When I decided to stay I became a lot more involved with them. I joined the Scouting movement with my son :) (I never hobbyed on weekends any way), I got involved with the extracurricular school groups the girls were in etc etc..... Just spent ever minute I could with the kids and even some time the SO LOL, as they got older we, (the kids and I) started a small part time business that they could be a part of and we spent even more time together DJing parties, weddings, School dances and even bars. I miss that, the kids are all grown up and moved on now. I think you need to look at what you fight about we never really fought it more like a series of "cold wars" over stupid little things, never about money we have both had separate banks and accounts and the household expense have always been split; as in she pay this, I pay that, she pay this, I pay that, divide the mortgage, she has her car and I have mine. We have both had good employment over the years. If the issues that we had fought about had been major I am sure that we wouldn't have made it ..this far.. LOL It isn't over till it is over and it isnt over.... yet ;) Pick your battles and remember she has to win some too, if she wins a big one you can even say "sorry" but dam that hurts LOL JK As Dumpy says spend some quality time together, this time of your life with the kids at that age is very very trying on a relationship, and time away from them is necessary for every one, even the kids. I guess no one can tell you what is best for you each situation is different but from what I have seen over the years staying is allmost always than leaveing if there are issues. Good luck Loki318

Ck for the most part I have to agree but there seem to allways be that one exception :) One of the best Escort experiences of recent memory started on CL. She is one hot Indie :) of course I had to sift through 7 or 8 scams to find her ..... To help make any interested party's search shorter PM me for the add. Loki318

It is good to hear some good words about the industry on the East Coast Loki318

PS: Would these SP's feel as safe with me as I would with them ....not any more. I can make a post like this, (above) as I am as I said before old and thus getting to the end of my hobbying years, I have 1 or 2 regulars and a GF and have all but stoped looking for new talent :) Yea I miss the 60's and 70's too Loki318

PLS Read ALL of this before you reply with flames LOL It has been said the the human mouth is the dirtiest part of the body; more germs and bugs and disease live there; than any where else, and it is there that disease (any thing for the commom cold to Herpes to AIDS) is most easily transmitted !!! so DATY you put your mouth where you wont put "Roger" and ingest what ever there is there or secreted from there ??? BBBJ she puts her mouth on "Roger" (and "Dick and Tom and Harry) and (if we are lucky ;) ) ingests what ever there is there to cum out prolly doesn't swallow it all, but ya know those presecretions are body fluid too !!! Dont get me wrong here I LOVE DATY almost more than I LOVE BBBJ but would i do them with just any one? HELL NO !! not Dumpys one night stand from the bar, not some street action, not most agency girls (at least the ones I have seen so far) BUT the well recomended independant ladies that you have a chance to "get to know" before you date them, for the most part yes :) Now to the real question BBFS ..... Yes I too am OLD and can remember the 60's 70's and how I made it through is a miricle, I spent some time in some pretty sleasy dives , but this isnt the question either .. Would I DO IT? ... I probably would with any one I would do DATY or BBBJ with if it were on the menu.... would I ask for it NO i respect the individuals beliefs more than that. Consider this Which do you think would be safer? The Lady down the street that winks at most every male in range The one night stand from the Strip bar across town the pick up at the sports pub the agency "wam bam thank you Man" take the money and run to the next guy Street action Or an Indie Escort you have come to know that keeps herself checked and safe .... I Really think that I/we would be as safe with the well respected ladies that post here regularly as I would be with my wife of 28 years, possibly even more so :?: Recomended Reading: The Wisdom of Whores; Bureaucruats, Brothels and the Business of AIDS. by Elizabeth Pisani Ok Flack Jacket secure now :) Loki318

I voted 2 hrs as that is what I do within my budget most of the time If $$$$$ were not an issue I would do only 8 hr or over night visits as 90% of my hobbying to date is on business trips. Hope this makes scene I been intot the home made wine tonight Loki318

Hey bud ya posted the site addy didnt you read it or even look at it first!

I expect that the hobbiest that tells his friends and family are even fewer!

I must admit my roots in the hobby started in the type of Incall described here and in a couple of Strip Bars that sort of doubled as meet and greet for the beds in the motel next door :) Man that was long ago.... I do like the convince of that type of incall but as all have said the "line up" could get a bit awkward but after a few visits I would have a fave and just make the appointment ahead of time, and avoid the "line up" Reflecting on the holiday just past..... My "fantasy" NYrs Eve party: Rent or book out a small Inn or Larger "cottage".... say 5 or 6 bedrooms, large dinning room, lounge/bar.....etc etc... Invite 6 to 8 of the well known independant SP's Invite 8 to 10 Well respected Hobbiest's A chief, maybe a couple of serving girls;) A meet and great when all arrive, socialize and and drinks, big dinner, more social time if needed LOL nad ring the new year in with a Bang or two or three LOL this yr the 1st is on Friday perfict chance to make it a whole weekend of fun :) ..........Thur, Fri, Sat, and out by Sunday noon ...... Guys I am sure we could even callit and bill it as some sort of HR Seminar that we could deduct from Revenue Canada tax LOL Loki318

Boner :) I get "profesional" help with my dreams every chance I get! :sm185: Loki

Normally I would not be hobbying over the holidays but as I have to take a forced break in the new year I have arranged a couple of appointments just before Xmas and would like to do another just before new yrs ..... time will tell :) Loki318

I have had dreams of "acquaintances" before but not recently that can recall ... All of the ladies in my dreams would have no faces but I would know who they were ..... shrug..... maybe a safety subconscious trick on myself so as not to call out the names LOL Who know what lurks in the minds of men :) Loki318

If you feel the need to "tell someone" then keep a journal and be Damn Sure it dosen't get opened before you die or your death could be premature LOL Loki318

Continue your research you will find other things you want to do.... Loki318

I couldnt find Phone contacts but did send email to the PI company Will keep informed Loki

As i said in another I been away a couple of days :) Takeing my own chances :) I'll make a call or two on Monday and Post what might be done to Help the guy out:) Loki

I have been in this hobby for 27 years give or take a month, at times more active than others ...I started after being married about 7 yrs ( yea the 7 yr itch :) and I am still married ... I think it is very safe to say if I had not been in this hobby I would not still be married... Possibly that is another topic After the new year I have to take a 2 to 3 month break from the hobby to attend to a little surgery :( BUT if that is successful in the early spring I may plan a Orgy to celebrate :) Loki318