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Dreamer; Which Nina was this? PK?

I agree with dummpy. I had better luck when I phoned or sent e-mails to SPs soon after they posted their availability.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you PM me and explain. Thanks.

Maybe but I prefer the knife in my hand not in my back and reading the link posted by thracer that is what might happen if one goes near Mandy.

At least it is a change from all the fake pics. I have been paying so much attention to the pics lately to see if they are fake that I skipped over this one as it had no pic. If you call ask her if she charges extra for the steaks or if this is all inclusive.

Welcome to the board. Nice review. That is definitively Cat. She is a very classy lady.

I couldn't agree more with you CK. Me neither I don't trust an agency that can not be honest. Unfortuantely from all that has been posted on CL lately it seems to be spreading. That is why I had decided a while back to switch my attention to INDYs. I have yet to be deceived. Although YMMV is always something to keep in mind, their service seems to be always consistent with the reviews that are posted here on CERB.

CK are you sure. I know there was a fake Nina pic that has been removed but check this Destany and the pic of NINA that is on today and the 2 girls might be almost the same height but I don't think they look the same. This Destany ad was there a while back. Maybe randy36 should try a Duo. Then we would know for sure.

Shouldn't you be posting this in the Montreal section? You are more likely to get answers there since you are referring to a Montreal agency.

WOW!! I have not been out to a movie in a long time but I may just go see this one. That looks great.

What a way to stick out and support the SPs. Lets be rude to them. It might be simple to you but your comment is inapropriate and out of place. You should remove it before MOD does.

No need for a PM. She is a member here so go to the Eastern Canada Schedule and announcement section then to the Ottawa part and she has an announcement on the first page. She gives all the details on her service and ways to contact her.

Check Rachelle on EC site. If you can wait, she is coming to Ottawa in a few weeks. She did duos with Erica Sky last time she was here. I think she is planning duos again this time. I could not access her website right now to check it out but I thought I did see something on her site a few days ago.

Not sure what is your price range so it is hard to make a recommendation. These are some names that come to mind when talking about slow starts to warm the engine but it is not an all inclusive list: Erica Skye, Hotstuff Heidi, Pretty Paige and many more INDYs. just look at some of the reviews that were done in the last few months. Some agency SPs have also been reviewed lately. When you mentioned Gentlemen's club were you referring to CMJ?

I know you did not mean disrespect but you have to put everything in the context of the entire post I made and not stick to parts of it. They say a picture is worth a thousand words and all SPs on Abracadabra have great pictures. Sp repeating her height etc is nice but we can basically see that from the picture. When I was talking about details I was referring to her services. You look at questions being asked on this Board and that is what people want to know. And I did suggest it was probably not there because they are an agency. I did not want to add more details to that part because there was already a thread about agencies vs indys where this discussion would belong. Yes you are also entitled to your opinion but you can give that without saying "I hate to contradict you", which suggest I was wrong. All you needed to say is that there were some generic details and that some SPs were a little more descriptive about their service, ie writing GFE than others or which ever way you want to write it (Your opinion right). I know you did not intend to be disrecpectful and don't worry, I will not loose sleep over this. I would have actually PM you about this, however I thought it was worth sharing the fact that there are different ways to express an opinion.

In a sense there is on this board. The SP only area as mentioned in another thread. I trust that if SPs exchange info about clients ponctuality and other issues, they are also being honest and say who are the good guys when receiving inquiries from other SPs Of course I am guessing, an SP would know more about this.

I couldn't agree more with you on this one. When the SPs safety is at risk, there is the need for that SP only access blacklist. The only point that should be considered is if there is a need for another type of list. It doesn't seem like what was written about "Antlerman" would have put an SP at risk physically. It sure would not have been good for business however and you need to protect that also. I would suspect blacklist or not someone who pulls such a stunt a few times and gets turned down by SPs changes is handle quickly. From the comments I have seen he has done so already or has disappeared. I would say he falls in the cheap !!!! category. With criminals it is different because they usually get a kick from their actions and will not stop until they get caught by LE. This is why I suggested having seperate lists and Katia said she would consider it which is fine by me. Note my comment is based on was what written about this "Antlerman" But apparently there was more about this person that was not mentioned on the blacklist that may warrant his name being there.

I did not think there was such thing as a nice FORD. And your stuck with one. Maybe you need donations for all your work here so you can upgrade. Sorry but I could not resist. I know I am off track but I believe your comment has put this thread to rest for good.

Looking forward to seeing your new site and the pics from those new additions.

The fact that it is not mark that an SP is not GFE doesn't mean she isn't. I have read reviews on other boards yesterday and here on CERB last year when one of their SP was working for PK that she was GFE. Remember, as MOD often points out GFE basically means not mechanical and doesn't suggest any kind of service. Now I am very familiar with their site and have peeked at the View My profile for this SP and all it said is she was providing Escort for male and massage for male. I hope she provides escort service since it is an agency for SPs. So if you want to contradict me and make it sound like my statement was wrong, make sure you get all the facts. Because I suspect there might be other girls that are GFE although it is not listed. I have used this agency in the past so I am not inventing things. Remember I was also adding to your comment in suggesting they had a good site but if someone wanted to use it at a model there were ways I thought it could be improved. I never suggested what you wrote was wrong and you should not do that to others unless it is a very evident mistake. We are all entitle to our opinion as long as we respect others.

Good points except for the music you can't turn off. However what is missing is what kind of service each SP is providing. There is absolutely no details and I am sure they are not all the same. On their previous websites they use to say if the SP was GFE or not. Maybe they stop the descriptions because non GFE SP might be less popular than the GFE ones and being an agency they have to get business for all their SPs. Whatever reason, I like to know what to expect before, this way no dissapointment because you were expecting more than the SP provides.

Your right some well reviewed and respected members here on CERB have advertised on CL. It is also well known how CL can be hit and miss. Your comment about the advertiser on EC is a little disturbing. It is a well recommended site and hopefully there will not be too many false advertisement which would ruined it's reputation.

I have to agree on the part where you talk about over doing a review and bragging. There is no need to provide explicit details. I think the ones where member provide a rating for such things as service etc... are appropriate. There is also nothing wrong with saying if what the SP advertises for service is true or not. If she advertises BBBJ I don't see it as something wrong to say if she did or did not provide this service. There is also nothing wrong in saying an SP is a safe GFE if she is. There are many clents who are happy with this type of service. The review has to be honest. I have something to add to what you said about some comments being rude and how you do not discuss such things on the SP only area. Yes I must say some of these reviews go too far and comments might be rude. However not only are they shared between clients but all SPs who are member have a chance to view all comments and provide a response if we are not acurate or have not seen your side of things. When it comes to the SP area only, we as a client can not see anything and therefore do not have a chance to respond. We saw on another tread about antlerman how easily mistakes can be made. What if a client does happen to be late for some reason but you do put a comment in the SP area. He would not know that is name is even on your SP discussion. What if it was the one and only time this ever happen. We are all human and the next SP who gets a call from that client might say I will give him the last appointment of the day, this way if he is late it will not interfere with other appointments or decide not to see him. I am not saying here that you should not have this SP only area because I am sure there are safety related discussions in that area that need to be shared between SPs. I have always said the SPs safety is extremely important. But you have to admit that, under normal circumstances, discussing someone and not providing him a chance to give his side off the story is also not fair. So SPs have concerns and clients too. It is great that we can discuss them here.

I would be upset to be in the same category as possibly dangerous clients. Maybe there is a need for a blacklist and a greylist. There are people out there that are dangerous and SPs need to know for their own safety thus the need for a blacklist. In your case, if the accusations are true, it still might be annoying and a bad review would be bad for the SP's business, there safety is not at risk , thus the need for a greylist. I think in those cases, there should be some mechanism where the member is warned, maybe through a PM on this board, and if there are no further complaint after a certain time, his name removed from the greylist. Hiding those list form the clients will not help. Maybe the person doesn't quite realize what he had been doing and then eventualy might get turn down by SPs without really knowing why. We, the clients, or at least many of us, are controlling ourselfs to respect this board rules and not post any negative reviews that would hurt an SPs business. It would be nice, in the case of "Greylist" issues if CERB members were also given some consideration. Finally a last point about making the site visible to SPs only, I found it was also useful for clients. There was an agency listed on there that I had a bad feeling about and from what I read they are not being fair to their SPs. Personnally, as a client, If I had some way of knowing an agency is not being fair to the SPs, I would not do business with them. Those ladies deserve to be treated fairly and with respect.