Kubrickfan

She was mentioning something in an earlier post about getting a photo up sometime soon. Frankly, that's more advertising and she might not be looking for that right now. There is an e-mail address in at least one of her postings, and you can PM as well. I suspect she is pursuing this quite slowly with a very small number of clients, so the key is probably to be patient.

Courtney -- I'm sure I speak for CK when I say you deserve every word of those reviews! BTW, I should add that I had a second opportunity to see Courtney before leaving Ottawa and it was as wonderful as the first visit. Courtney does have a great, dry sense of humor, and she doesn't hesitate to use it all during the visit. Haven't gotten to sample her pies yet (so to speak ... smile), but maybe on a future visit. In any event, cant wait to see her next time I'm in town.

Given this lady's somewhat unique history on cerb, I hope the mod. wont be too upset if I announce the return of this wonderful lady. Just posted a review. BTW, for the readers, she is OK with the dual name reference.

It is indeed my honor to offer a "kick-off" review of Miss Class who is otherwise known to some members of this board as the legendary Courtney from a few years ago. I should say, at the outset, that I asked her about mentioing her prior name and she is perfectly OK with that. First, she is exactly as described in her cerb advertisement. Spinner type body, but not overly thin by any means in my opinion. In a nutshell, she's beautiful, both inside and out. She described her own look as "librarian" ... "I get a lot of that," she said. That's accurate, but its very much just the tip of the iceberg. A few freckles, a beautiful nose and absolutely stunning eyes. And a beautiful figure with perfect breasts for her dimensions. This is an honest, sincere, genuine, highly intelligent (emphasize highly) young lady that is an absolutely joy to talk to and get to know. And that's from a guy with multiple university and professional degrees. I wont go into any details about why she left the business and then returned, but she volunteered a very logical explanation. This is a woman who has been through a lot in her life, and she seems to be better for it. We scheduled a 90 minute appointment and we ended up talking for most of that time ... go figure (smile). The physical part was downright fun (dont tell anyone, but she's a bit ticklesh ... shhhh), and we were continuing our conversation as well during our lovemaking. She is a safe GFE (technically speaking), but that's probably for the best because I would have made a really, really big mess (smile). Would I repeat? I knew the answer to that question 15 minutes into our visit. For a guy like me, Courtney could not be a more perfect companion. She combines a brightness, both in intelligence and spirit, with great looks and a powerful personality, and that adds up to an absolutely perfect experience.

A lady's race/ethnic origin makes no difference to me. Its unlikely to even come up in conversation unless the lady volunteers that information and its makes for interesting conversation. As to her nationality, as long as its a country located on the planet earth, were good to go. ;)

I haven't had the pleasure of meeting many of the ladies on your list, but dittos on Annessa ... just saw her last evening and she is as wonderful as ever! :grin:

I would e-mail them and complain a bit ... possibly they would give you a bit more of a discount for the next visit.

Megan -- That's an absolutley wonderful story ... good for you! Very nicely done! A lot of people may not have bothered, so that speaks volumes about you as a person.

I agree with all of the above posts, but if time is on your side and you can afford to make multiple visits, you might get a more honest answer if she is familiar with you as a customer and isn't worried that you are LE and/or that she might get in trouble at the club. In other words, wait a few visits.

Thanks for sharing as well ... just posting for the first time today in a while. The back story about Jessie would be interesting if you can share? I can certainly understand why Tim was there, but single women (especailly mid 30s women) are something of a rarity at a SC. In fact, I thought that some of the clubs actually try to keep unescorted women out as the clubs think they are most likely there to yell at their husbands (smile).

I am happy, and grateful, to say that none of these apply to me. Not to mention that some of these sound really screwy to me. Especially number 2 ... when I was in my 20s, the equation always was Sex > Sleep. I wonder whether there is any research to support these or just someone trying to fill up space in an article they had to write. I guess there all possible, but I doubt they are really prevalent.

Alexiss -- Your post is full of timeless thoughts about common courtesy and being non-judgemental and they are obviously all quite correct. You may not want to vet the issue here on cerb, but the forcefulness of your remarks make me wonder whether you had a particuarly bad experience with a client that caused you to make these remarks? I have been around cerb long enough to know that most of the wonderful people here (both clients and SPs) are exactly as you describe in your post, but I have talked to enough of these ladies (including a number that post here regularly on cerb) to know that there are some some clients out there that are just jerks and real challenges to complete the visit. Maybe they were drinking, or stoned, or think of women as objects, or self-absorbed, or all of the above. But hopefully these will be the exception and not the rule ... best wishes to you.

Another factor for visiting ladies may be the "newness" factor. I suspect that a lady may be able to offer a rate above "average" (whatever exactly that is) if she has a good reputation in another part of the country or her photos are particularly attractive or if ... wellll ... there are other intagibles that might attract guys. It seems that, for better or worse, a lot of guys are always looking for something new or unique so there might be enough of a demand for that to cause the price to increase. At least temporarily.

Unfortuately, my 16 year old daughter has me hooked on Gossip Girl. Dont tell anybody. :rolleyes:

Just a few suggestions from someone who has taken it and managed to get into a pretty decent law school (albeit many years ago): 1. Memorize the instructions for each section and jsut take a quick look to make sure nothing has changed. As the tests are timed, any time taken reading the intructions is time you can't spend on the questions. 2. Practice, practice, practice. I know you said you have taken the test a few times, but are you really paying attention to why one answer is right and the others wrong? 3. Read for comprehension, not speed. Law school is all about a careful analysis of words and phrases, and the meaning behind those phrases, not black and white "yes and no" questions and answers. Swimwuit would be best served using to practice test taking skills with your buddies here on cerb. ;>) Good luck!

I have found the simplest solution to this problem is to pay in advance and make it clear you would like that number of dances. There's a small chance you will get short changed, but then the roles are reversed. You can always still tip, and then the dancer doesn't have to worry about not getting paid. I have always paid in advance and I have never had a problem. Of course, you can always ask for more dances and, once again, pay up front.

A few are OK, and I would never turn away a lady for that reason, but I really wonder why someone ... especially a beautiful woman with beautiful skin ... would ever want to do that over and over and over again.

Getting in line with the other "old farts" that have already responded (SA and CK ... smile), I have heard from both dancers and SPs that they would much rather be with a respectful, (ahem) "experienced" old guy that they feel safe with as that allows them to feel more comfortable and not worry about things. Remeber the scene from the movie "Top Gun" (paraphrasing): Cuise: I'm here to stop you from making a big mistake with that "older guy." McGillis: "Why? So I can make a bigger mistake with a younger guy like you?" Cleary, the old farts are the guys who should get a discount if anyone does! :roll: Seriously, I'm glad that younger girls are physically attracted to younger guys ... its the way it should be ... but younger guys need the experience a more mature lady has to offer. Maybe not the same thing applies to younger girls and older guys, but if a younger lady wants to see how she should be treated, there are a lot of gentlemen on this board that can show them the way. :wink:

Diana Rigg from The Avengers tv show in the 60s ... the first girl I remember giving me a funny feeling in my pants. But at the time, I had no idea what that meant. :>)

SA -- Just happened to be on and saw your post. This was a concern of mine a while ago (well over a year ago) and I shared it with one of the "alpha female" (smile) dancers in the club. She took it upon herself to check into this an was told that there are cameras, but nothing is being recorded and really no one is paying attention. It was done at the time of the remodel a while back. Things may have changed, but based on this info. I don't worry about it. On the other hand, I'm not looking for a lot of extras, so it wouldn't be a problem anyways.

As I am not based in Ottawa, and only visit occasionally, I have been fortunate, for many years, have a good txt communication with a dancer I met a few years ago. I see her every time I am in town, and I consider her a friend as I have gone to dinner with her many times, talked for hours about our families and trials and tribulations in our lives. We usually exchange messages every few days even though it might be months before I am back in town. She is a bright wonderful person that has brought a unique perspective to my life and I treasure her thoughts.

Your answer is in the body of your question, assuming that's the whole story. I think this is a very polite and honest way to approach the issue with the client.

I would have posted this in the stripclub section as in my experience I have never seen that sort of behavior from escorts. Still, what makes it an interesting read is that, although it takes some poetic license, there are definitely nuggets of truth in there and that what makes it so darn funny. And thanks to Reddog for posting it. What it doesn't mention is that dancers likely have to invest a good deal of "table time" and effort developing these relationships without compensation. And it likely takes going through quite a few guys to find one that is willing to shell out that kind of money. It happened to me briefly a few years ago, but the dancer involved is someone that I still keep in touch with and see, but I feel no obligation whatsoever to spend money on her and we look forward to seeing each other at the club when I'm around. She is a friend, period, and that's wonderful. So the author's point about knowing what you want has a lot of truth to it. Whatever it is, be prepared to walk away if you don't get it. Or at least lower your expectations. And for any guy to think that the drop dead gorgeous, 5'10" in heels, 21 year old with "dancer's legs and laughing eyes" (credit to Steely Dan) sitting at your table talking to you while drinking the $9.00 Chambord on ice that you just bought her has anything in common with you, a middle aged family guy, ... well maybe enough for some small talk and laughs. But anything else ... get a grip. :roll::roll:

Who was the dancer? A few of the ladies there have very well established clientele, and it could have been one of those guys just having fun. On the other hand, if they dont know each other, that's not a great idea, not because the ladies dont deserve it, but because the guy could end up getting mugged outside the club.

Ashyguy -- Welcome and you have nothing whatsoever to apologize for! I'm getting in a bit late to the discussion here. This forum contains all sort of interesting discussions, but its difficult to argue that one of its primary purposes certainly has something to do with sharing information about escorts, right? (smile) I did a lot of research on here and on the other boards before contacting anyone, and I also made some contributions to the boards before asking a lot of questions to help gain a good reputation for being helpful. The unique thing about cerb, as compared to other boards, is how wonderfully polite and helpful everyone is. And, you have been lucky enough to get some responses from the ladies as well. The usual advice, which is correct, is to do your research and then maybe ask some more pointed questions. However, your situation is a bit unique (given your v-card reference), so I do think that your question is perfectly appropriate. After all, there aren't probably a lot of references in the reviews to expertise in "v-card removal" (smile). And I dont doubt for a minute that should you have contacted some of cerb's ladies (like Annessa and Meg) directly that some would have responded. Where I disagree a bit is that ... given that you have very few posts and are new to the forum ... you may not have gotten as high of a response rate as you would hope. Soooo, I think a strategy of doing "all of the above" (research, starting this thread and some PMs) will get you to the result you are looking for. Best wishes and good luck.