Kubrickfan

Best wishes to you ...I remember that was a very exhilarating time. Hope to see a review at some point

I think there's something here that needs to be layered in to the discussion, especially when it comes to "regulars": some guys probably start becoming regulars because they enjoy the social relationship aspect of things just as much as, if not more so, than the sex. It could be because the guys are missing that social aspect in their personal lives. That's where things can become complicated in a hurry as I would argue that the expectations of guys in a social setting are actually higher, and that's why you can end up with hurt feelings for the guys and unmet financial promises for the ladies. This situation requires some realism from the guys, but also some finesse from the ladies if they want to maintain that "regular" relationship. As to the guys, is it realistic to thing that the gorgeous brunette with the mile long legs and the great personality and brain (sorry Annessa, I couldn't resist ... smile) really wants to become my personal girlfriend? Most probably not, and its really unfair to the ladies for the guys to expect otherwise. As to the ladies, a guy that's looking to spend a lot of social time with you, and is fudging on the reimbursement for your time, is probably looking for something from you that is missing from his life. He's probably not trying to rip you off, but he may be trying to demonstrate that he can have a relationship and feel good about it, and its probably a really sensitive issue for the guy ... that's why finesse is required if the lady doesn't want to lose her "regular." I guess one way around this problem is to simply maintain a rule not to see clients outside of the usual "visit." The other is, as nice as some of these ladies want to be, to insist on being paid something for that time. That can actually help, in my opinion, to avoid a social situation where the guy getting confused and feelings get hurt on both sides.

It would be difficult for me not to offer a discrete polite smile and nod ... its just the polite thing to do. If the lady is with someone, however, that will only happen if they make eye contact with me. I might discretely try to make eye contact, to make sure its not perceived that I am trying to ignore someone, but I would never actively approach a lady. Any other interaction is entirely up to the lady. I might be the exception to the rule as it is highly unlikely that I will have anyone with me as I am only in Ottawa on business trips by myself.

Its called GoJo ... here's a link: http://gojo.com/canada/markets/automotive/products/selfdispense/094712.aspx This is probably what you are thinking of. Happy scrubbin'.

This is an entirely private matter for me. Some day I might tell someone, but not likely.

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I had a lady (who is extremely well reviewed here), on our second visit, and upon me opening the door, literally rush in and jump on me with her arms and legs wrapped around me, which is how we made it over to the sofa. What a wonderful feeling! However, as to timing, for the most part, as long as it takes for the lady to feel comfortable and safe. for the most part, I only see a few ladies and I enjoy the "talking time" equally much as its nice to catch up.

On the occasions that I have run into dancers outside the club (pretty rare), I would never mention anything about their work. I would hope it would be like running into any other acquaitance. As Sinn has pointed out, doing otherwise is a form of "mutually assured destruction." (smile) When I'm visiting town and spending some time at Barbs, I worry once in a while that I'm going to run into a business colleague from our loal office. I figure if it happens that: 1) they came into the club as well, and 2) at least I'm the one from out of town.

Vanessa -- Whether or not the lady I am seeing offers those types of services would not have any bearing on whether I would choose to see her or not. As a matter of fact, it might have the opposite effect if its advertised too overtly. No kissing would be a problem, however.

Lea's got that new Egyptian look going ... verrry interesting.

I had the opportunity to see Michelle recently during a trip to Ottawa nad I just wanted to take the opportunity to express my agreement with all of the positive things that have been said about this wonderful lady. As I have never had a massage before, Michelle did a great job of answering my questions ahead of time, and she is wonderful at taking care of your needs during your visit. I had a wonderful, relaxing time with a beautiful woman and I hope to see her again in the very near future.

I had the opportunity to see Amanda twice recently and all I can say is WOW! Others have posted their thoughts more artfully than I could, and I would just like to say that I couldn't agree more; as to recent reviews< I certainly agree completely with Cato and Young Stud. Amanda has an incredible energy level and is a "game changer" in every sense of the word. She is petite, intelligent, polite, and genuinely fun to be around, not to mention she is one of the sexiest ladies I have ever experienced. I cant wait to see here again!

Now this I like ... real time postings of who's around! I nominate kkottawa to go to Barb's every night and keep a real time record of who's there and, most importantly, who's looking particularly good or squirrely. :D

No worries ... its a fair and reasonable question, as is SA's additional point about judging the "quality of the companionship" by the quality of the ad. Mod is right in that the topic has been covered quite often in terms of legality, but I dont think that was exactly the question you were asking. In short, I agree that I would generally be turned off by an ad like that.

I have no problem using my Handle. Its something of a "brand" that is good to cultivate by making interesting and helpful posts. There is one issue to keep in mind ... not everyone can access cerb at work, so sometimes regular e-mail is necessary. Certainly an original introduction through a PM on cerb is a good idea IMO.

I'm not enough or a regular to say for sure, but I think the busiest nights are actually Thursday and Friday. I think you can go pretty much any night and see a lot of ladies after 9 or so.

Lea is one of the very best and is one of the "alpha females" at Barbs from what I gather. I mean that nicely ... a lot of the ladies want to follow her because she is so good. I'm not a regular customer, but she is very successful and has a very loyal clientelle. Barbs get busy later in the evening, usually after 9pm. Many of the ladies dont even get there until 8 or so.

Oh well (smile) ... it seemed like a good idea, especially after the revival of the cancellations thread. I'm still not sure it isn't ... at least the principle behind the idea isn't. And the principle is based on a simple proposition ... that if each side has something to lose, and to gain, maybe each side might exercise a bit more discretion in cancelling.

I have an idea on how to cut this problem back a bit, but I thought it was worth a separate thread. I hope posters here take a look.

There is currently another thread discussing the unfortunate topic of cancellations. In fact, it comes up on a pretty regular basis as a persistent problem for both the ladies, for whom time is one of their most precious assets, and for the guys, who sometime plan way ahead for these visits, rent hotel rooms, etc. In both cases, minimally the parties are out time and money, and in some cases the people involved start to question their self-worth (smile). I have a suggestion that could benefit both parties ? it ultimately an honor system, but the cerb forum could be used as a bit of leverage (of course, with the Moderator?s approval). Here?s how it could work: 1. The cerb member (probably an established member with a few months posting history) books an appointment using his cerb name via PM. At the time of his appointment, he offers a ?Cerb No Cancellation Guarantee.? 2. The lady (also a cerb member) acknowledges the Guarantee and states that the appointment is ?firm? or something like that (no pun intended ? wellll, maybe a little). 3. Under the terms of the Guarantee: a. Appointments cancelled by a client with less than a 24 hour notice incur a 25% cancellation fee to the client based on the time booked, but no more than a total of a full hour of the lady?s time. Appointments cancelled with less than 12 hours notice, and no-shows, incur a 50% cancellation penalty, with no cap. b. Appointments cancelled by the ladies work the same way, but in reverse and are not paid in cash, but in credits toward a future visit with that lady. 4. Non-paying clients and non-credit-giving ladies can be cited on cerb if they do it more than twice until the problem is resolved. No one is going to want to be on that list for long. In order to get the guys interested, I suggest that the ladies offer a discount or a bit of extra time for the guys willing to sign up for the Guarantee. The point behind the guarantee is to get a bit more stability for the ladies, and to offer the guys an incentive (discount) to help the ladies out. I just threw the numbers and hours out there ? maybe the ladies have other suggestions

My sense, at least in spending a good deal of time talking to some of the most experienced dancers at Barbs, is that ... if you are new, and you make an impresssion based on kissing customers (or doing other things) when that is defintiely not the norm ... you are going to be viewed negatively by the other girls. And that's never a good thing when you are new and haven't made friends. Most of the negative commentary you hear from these experienced ladies is that "so and so" is ____-ing customers (choose your verb) and there isn't a lot of patience for those types of dancers. That being said, I will usually get a light kiss on the lips at the beginning of a dance session and at the end. Its all about discretion and becomming part of the "team" IMO.

From a U.S. guy, congratulations as well. I thought we had it going into overtime given the momentum but that's OK. It just wouldn't be right to have Canada lose the gold medal game with the Olympics in Canada. :-D

I assume for the purposes of the response you are referring to an independent provider? If you were referring to an agency, I can understand the business analogy better, but if its just one human being probably being contacted probably by a lot of men, I dont think you can assume anything. If the lady you are trying to contact is younger and less experienced, maybe she simply isn't organized, doesn't recognize the "business" concepts you mention in your note, is having her e-mail edited by her boyfriend ... who knows (smile). I know for a fact that a number of our better known independent ladies get a ton of e-mail, and sometimes its an honor just to get a reply. If you have a timing issue, like a trip to town or something like that, try putting in your subject line, "Request for appointment ... checking one last time!" or simply "Request for appointment ... February 28th (or whatever date applies)" and see what happens. I certainly wouldn't assume you are doing anything wrong. If it doesn't work out, don't let it bug you and move on to the next wonderful lady on your list. Good luck and best wishes.

Its tough for gals to get in without a male escort (no pun intended ... smile). The theory is that if a woman shows up without a guy that she is there to find her husband or boyfriend or otherwise cause trouble. :shock:

I have been told by a number of dancers that it is easier to approach a guy when he is alone than when he is with a number of friends, so many dancers prefer that. In other words, dont worry about it. My only mistake was to walk in and ask the shooter girl for a drink not realizing there were separate cocktail waitresses. Also, its good form to offer a drink to a dancer that is sitting with you. And it takes a bit of practice, but its perfectly acceptable to tell a dancer that comes up to you that you appreciate her stopping by, but you wont be going for dances for a while. If you are polite and respectful, you are almost guaranteed to have a great time.