rubintugger

Are they still using the little back room and the small table?

Shu is not back, I assure you. If she was, I'd be broke. Did talk to her for a few moments at 311 the other day before my session with Eva, and unfortunately she showed zero interest in seeing clients again. She is retired.

I did not see Jenny.

Same place, small room in the back, small table, not the old space or table. Did not leave happy, but your mileage may vary depending on the attendant as always.

This is a new one to me. Just curious. Do you have a HE massage and then the pedicure, or the pedicure then massage and HE? Just seems a bit odd, either way.

Not familiar with a massage facility in that area, is it a home, or a storefront? Not sure if I like the graphic they use for the ad, someone jumping up and down on someone's back is not my idea of a massage. I get they are trying to be cute, but really. Standard tipping rates apply, I assume?

OK, but is she a massage only girl, or will you leave happy for a tip?

If you are only doing outcalls, where you are located is of limited value, except to judge how long it would take you to get there and/or what kind of expense you might be looking at for transportation if the SP requires the client pays. General area is all that is needed to be shared. For incall, of course area means a lot, both to judge the safety of the incall and the travel required by the client. In that case, and area but not a specific address is easily shared, specific address only shared once a booking is made, with all the security precautions taken. That said,, i do not understand SP's that entertain in their primary residence. That is dangerous, but I guess, depending on the situation, depending on the clientele, it is a risk each SP needs to asses. If an SP is doing it as a full time gig, they should be able to find an appropriate, affordable solution for hosting.

Well, I guess the demand for EI talent is high, a local SP charging $400/hr is not a common thing. All credit to her if she can get it. Not sure about what the " await to sense my tongue smoothly around your feets or ears" comment is all about. Have to look that one up in the urban dictionary.

Outcalls only, $300/hr including sex, daty and photos, but $100 extra for BJ. I can guess why there are no reviews.

Yes, the vinyl gloves were a bit weird, probably to protect her hands from constant exposure to the oils, but after a session or two, it knid of works. Even with them she gives one of the most insightful directed massages I have ever received, even from an RMT. She finds the spots, and works them out. And then instructs you how to work on them after. And sometimes scolds you when you comeback and haven't done your homework. She does offer FS/extras included in her prices.

Miya 9228 would fit the bill, very good massage, and very accommodating. Also gives off that motherly vibe for me.

Exactly the same as 311 ( i think its the same owners) and just about every asian mp in town...

I don't think the police will be calling any numbers unsolicited, or without a complaint from one of the victims. But, that said, if this does come to a court case, I can see the phone number lists being entered into evidence at some time, and potentially be made public and you know someone will post them publicly, and any SO that suspects her partner will check to see if his number is on that list. Or, some busibody with nothing better to do will start calling the numbers, or looking them up and calling SO's. That would be the only concern I would have from not using a burner phone.

Pretty sure this is her way of knowing whether you want her regular service (Sara) or an econopooner looking for the $80 tip included 45min "special" (Anne). By asking for Anne, she knows what you are attracted by. Astute marketing, really.

It sounds like they got the co-operation of the survivors mainly because the pimp cheated them. I would bet most of the survivors find a new venue to sell their services. Moral of the story, take care of your ladies, and they'll take care of you. Or, they will take care of you.

Interesting revival. "Tips" after receiving agreed upon service based on level of satisfaction for that service are fine for any service rendered, from a cab to a waitress to an SP/MP. 10-20% is a "normal" tip. "Tips" to acquire additional services in an MP are a totally different thing, and are usually negotiated prior to service. These are commonly referred to a "tips", but rather, they are service fees. Establishing a fee for an additional service in a MP is not a "tip". It is a fee. And every provider is free to set her fee schedule as she see fit. And we are free to negotiate if we feel the fee is inappropriate. I have had MP attendants request $100 to take off their top, to which I declined, and she lowered her ask, and eventually settled on $20. I'm not saying you should haggle with your attendant, but if they offer a service and ask a fee greater than you are willing to pay, you can always say no. If they are willing to take less (since you are already there), you may come to an equitable fee. In my experience, most MPA's accept a fee equal to the room fee for a basic release, and scale up from that for additional levels of service. I find it insane that someone would consider paying an MPA a room fee plus a service fee greater than the fee a f/s service provider would charge. That just does not make any sense. Paying a $60 room fee, then $200 for a non-f/s encounter, when for $240 you can see a quality SP for a visit that will include anything you can get in the MP plus f/s if you so desire. My 2 cents worth.

Private massage, not "privates" massage. Chair massage sounds like what you would get in a mall kiosk.

Really? They were too busy to respond, and you think that is a bad thing? Especially when they are offering special services that you were obviously not the only one interested in? Not sure what your original text was, but sending a message "?" is kind of rude, maybe if you had said "Hi, I had texted a while ago, I understand you are probably very busy, but was wondering if I would be able to get in today?" you might have gotten a less terse response. They normally have ads up, but the total lack of ads right now suggests you may not have been the only one they were unable to accommodate, and that their dance card is sufficiently filled. Not sure when they took down their ads, it might even have been between your first inquiry and your "?" These ladies are well reviewed and well liked, and I'm pretty sure they won't miss your business. I would not blame them is they refused booking you in the future after this uncalled for post. Your loss, really.

I don't get it. They are removing licensing, does that mean they are closing all the shops? That's not what it sounds like they are doing, they sound to be just abandoning it altogether. Just no longer condoning the practice with a license. Which seems to be exactly the opposite of the intent.

I think when a poster asked about if there was any he, I think they meant H E, not he, him. Enquiring about whether the original poster was happy at the end of the session. Yes, discussing specific services provided that are outside the legal seems kind of odd, considering this website is for the discussion of SP's in general. Yes, I know selling sex is not a criminal offence, only buying it is. Still, I understand not wanting to get any red flags flying, or getting MPA's in trouble. I don't think we need to discuss the exact services provided, or rates. That said, I think that a simple heads up about whether it is a RMT establishment, or something a little more fun is totally in line with the spirit of the discussions on this board.

There is a massage charge, $60 for 1 hr usually. When someone is asking about a "tip", are you interested in the amount you offer the attendant on top of the room fee for special attention, or do you mean on top of that? If you want to leave happy, most attendants will require an additional fee, I find an amount I am comfortable with to be usually about the same as the room rate. In general, you can pay a little less or more, and may find the attendant willing to work harder or pay more special attention based on compensation. Some may ask if you want a certain area massaged, and if you respond yes, they may ask how much you are willing to "tip" or "spend" which I can see would lead to this confusion in terminology. In my opinion, a "tip" would be something you give on top of the negotiated extra fee if they did a very special job above what you expected for the negotiated amount. And, should you be interested in repeating and getting the same, or even better service, I highly encourage this practice.

Reminds me o the guy that tattoo'd his girlfiends name on his dick... you could read Wnedy when it was errect, but usually only saw they W and Y. He was in Jamaica and happened to glace across at the urinal and saw a local with w WY on his dick and said "Hey, is your girlfriend's name Wendy too?" to which he responded, "No, my tattoo says "Welcome to Jamaica, have a nice day".

Molly at Stadacona or Miya on LL... totally different services, but both are attentive and competent at massage

OK, so we have one guy leaving happy, another stating it is a legit massage place. Can we get a tie-breaker?