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Is it just me, or does a user, named Jessica, who is identified as female in the profile, mentioning have her "balls" touched seem odd?

Well, just returned from seeing Destiny Xu, and I will repeat, for sure. She was incredible, an ATF for sure. She advertises a flawless body, and she was spot on... and very enthusiastic and skilled. An incredible experience, and I will definately repeat ASAP...

I booked with Destinyas soon as I saw her ad. I've been wanting to see her since I first saw her pics. Some of them are incredible, and none give me any concern. She advertises that she has a flawless body, and I look forward to exploring every inch to confirm that claim....

Are you serious? There are quite a number of exceptional ladies that fit your desires here in da 'peg. Many are members here.

Really? For a basic HJ? Maybe for a nude reverse, accompanied bath or a BJ. I guess it depends on the room rate as well.

Just a point of grammar, you are using the services of an escort. Not using an escort... a little difference in grammar, a huge difference in intent. When you are paying for an intimate encounter, a certain level of maturity helps make the encounter more enjoyable. Many young men think that a hour of "pounding at the hole" is what they are paying for (and at that age, a possibility, damn you teenage endurance:icon_cry:), hence some SP's reluctance to see young men. My best encounters as a young man were with a lady that was a friend of my sister, who dabbled as an SP later in life. She was almost 15 years my elder, and very definitely knew what she liked. My 18th birthday ended with me very drunk, and her putting me to bed. She left, much to my initial chagrin, but I was truly too drunk anyways. A few hours later though... lets say the night was quite memorable. And gave me a level of sexual confidence I might never have attained otherwise. She continued my tutoring for a year or two after, until she moved away. I would get an occasional call, requesting help with changing a lightbulb or some such, and another lesson would ensue. If you are looking to expand your knowledge base, then choose a mature SP, if you're looking for exercise, a younger SP might be more your cup of tea. Go into it with the right attitude, and you will have a rewarding encounter.

Very accurate review. Saw her today, and was not disappointed. She is exactly as described, and one note, she had a reaction to any deodorants, colognes, aftershaves. No scents, please. She likes what she does, and likes the human form more than most masseuses I have visited. Not even close to the massage you'd get at Southpoint or Spring or Ness, very light touch, but very skilled in what people coming here are looking for in a massage.

Very intrigued by her pics, but concerned about the lack of what her menu is being offered. Has anyone with double digit posts seen her yet? One review mentions CBJ, so I assume she is a safety girl, which is good, but no mention of any other services. Deal breaker for me is good DATY... any clarification there?

The big problem with this thread is that a) poster states that limits to service were repeatedly expressed and b) poster thinks that it is OK to "see if it changes" with more visits. There is no good outcome to this methodology. Masseuse has very distinctly outlined terms of service. If poster does not "get his way", masseuse is a bitch. If he does, masseuse is a liar. If poster wants to be happy (at the ending) he should give his business to someone willing to service his needs. And there are no shortage of those. Still don't understand people who think that they can combine their "hobby" with Blue Cross / insurance scamming... do they respect themselves at all?

Quick question. Do you think that there are any LE lurkers here with 20 posts?

I was going to say the same thing... sounds like Annie... except no mention of an accent...

OK, I have figured out the 411 on the logistics of the massage place on Warsaw st (google is your best friend, never would have thought WFP had archives from Sept 2012), but other than the fact that someone left happy once, we need more info. Male Massuese? Female? Young? Old? Draped? rates? Tip? Don't tease, recommend!

Not sure if her body is for sale?

Have to agree, a Lovely lady. Her EC ad is quite accurate, and the pictures do not do her justice. Tremendously professional, was open and receptive to requests. Has a large "breakfast at Tiffany's" movie poster on her door, and the shapely resemblance is remarkable, she liked the poster because of the cat. Exceptional shape, tiny waist and awesome bottom, and long toned legs. DATY was appreciated, could have stayed there the whole hour. Very tight kitty, almost too tight for an old guy like me. Hopefully, she will have some new pictures soon to share, apparently having a photo shoot soon. Nevertheless, a very repeatable experience. And while you know there are cats there, they weren't any concern, either in smell or fur. She is a very clean young woman.

Most multilingual requests made on this forum include greek or russian... this is a nice change. I know what greek and russian are, but Icelandic? Could that be like the reverse of the hot tea thingy?

Not to mention pissing off SP'S. That damn RMTs are horning in on their business...

I never enjoy a half hour, the clock is always racing against you. But for first sessions, they are a great way to break the ice, set the ground rules and determine if a second, 1 hr + session is in the works. For known SP's that are recommended by pooners that I know enjoy a similar experience to me, then an hour or longer session is usually OK for a first visit.

Again, it comes down to something you said, Soliel, sustainability. Will you have as many clients at $250 as $200? Would you get more at $180 than $200? Would someone visit you weekly at $150 but only monthlty at $250? $600 net income vs. $250. It is all about what you feel comfortable doing, and what your expectations are. There is even one lady I've seen that leaves the donation completely up to the client, I guess if you don't give what she thinks is good compensation for services rendered, she probably won't book you again... I've never had a problem offering her a very fair rate, because she earns it. There are SP's who can book 1 or 2 clients every day at $300+, most of them repeaters. There are good SP's that haven't built the rep or clientelle to do that yet, but might someday. To build that, some will use price, some won't. Is that wrong? Nope. It is all what you are comfortable with. Will raising your price affect your business? Quite probably. Will it reduce your total income? Until you try, who knows? And I feel your pain when you see these BP ads asking $300+ for SP's we all KNOW aren't worth a dime, if they even provide a service before snatching the cash and running. Don't let them get to you, they aren't here for the long run. And just because some guy lists his 1994 Hyundai Excel on Kijiji for $5000, doesn't mean yours is worth that too. Its all about "comparables", (although there are few that compare to most of the ladies on here). I've seen a lot of SPs that, after they have established a clientelle, raise their rates for new clients. Some of the existing clients pay the increase as well, but the ones the lady really likes she'll see at the original rate. Again, its not like "work" if you are enjoying what you are doing, and most people in life would gladly accept a lower wage if they could truly enjoy what they are doing. Its when you have to put up with crap (people) you don't like that you need to make the max for your efforts. It is a free market, and everyone can charge what they think is fair, and will get business that reflects that. Even in this, it is the purchasers money, and they have to decide to spend it. And if the perceived value isn't there.... they won't.

Wow... early morning typo... edited to reflect the actual sentiment... sorry for those I offended. I guess no one read past that, but hey. In no way was I insinuating that most SP's aren't worth the money they charge. My trains of thought got crossed up, and the "most" i was referring to were the BP ads, as referenced later. But anyways, there are SP's that are worth what they ask, and those that aren't worth a penny for the services they offer. That's my point. And it is a free market, so go ahead and charge what you will. And for the lucky pooners that have found sites like this, you don't realize just how licky you really are. There are guys out there that just have the ads on BP to judge a SP by, and that's where the bombardment advertising these scammers pull off nets them clients. All they need is a few newbies a week to make a "living", a tough wy for new hobbiests to be indoctorinated. Some people drive Ferraris, others drive Hyundais. You drive within your budget, and that's why there are different brands and models to choose from. And there is no protection from a purchaser from getting a lemon if they don't do their research. But likewise, there aren't a lot of Ferraris bought each year. If you think ou can charge Ferrari rates (even if you give Ferrari service) and still get Honda Civic sales volume, that's a marketing mistake. On another note, maybe the Mods of these boards should start running BP ads to help newbie hobbiests avoid the cat urine incall types, and the cash grab and runners that advertise.

Wow... I was just trying to point out that there are providers worth what they charge, and there are those who aren't. The fine ladies here that treat this profession and its partakers with respect deserve every penny they charge, and their clients know it, and appreciate it, showing that appreciation with their patronage. My beef is with the BP slags that advertise only there, have no overhead, no training, no customer respect, and expect $250/$300 / hr. The ones with no pro pics, website. The ones that have a crappy, cat urine covered incall in a sketchy part of town with no parking. Ones that you KNOW would never pay a penny in tax. Ones that upcharge for anything and everything. One's that don't seem to understand that one hour is 60 minutes, not just til you get tired of the client. The problem is that there is no apparent difference to these "SP's" that the service they provide is a completely different service than Professional Ladies. That's my beef.

$250 vs. $200? Why the difference? Why are things $4.99 instead of $5? Some of it is Psychological for me, some of it comes down to rates for other professionals. Lawyers, Plumbers, Electricians... and again, there are good and bad in all those professions, there are plumbers I'd be happier paying $100/hr than others I can hire for $25. When a SP can earn in 2 hours what a person flipping burgers makes in a week, that makes it a little real. Just curious... what would you think would happen to rates if the hobby became legal, and had government approved brothels, with employees getting benefits like daycare, dental, etc... ? Would an hourly sex worker get anywhere close to what they make now were it legit?

Wow... from an innocent question from a new SP to a full blown economic debate. As in everything, perception is the key. If a SP decides she's worth $300, and isn't, and the phone rarely rings, she has a decision. Get better at her job, and find a way to let people know, lower the price to make it meet her actual value to the market, or retire if she doesn't want to do what is necessary in an hour to earn $300. I've been with ladies that charged less than market rate to customers they liked because they'd rather have 10 sessions they enjoyed rather than putting up with 5 sessions they did not. I'm here right now because I have a hankering, and was considering trying someone new. Does price enter into it? You bet it does. I have a budget, and I'll stretch it in certain cases for certain SP's, but generally, I am hard pressed to try a new SP at over $200 unless I have multiple recommends from trusted sources that have similar tastes to mine. Using this formula, I rarely am disappointed. Would I like to see a standard price more in the $150 range? You betcha. Would it lower the amount I spend? Nope, I'd just get more value for my money. $250 is a lot, especially for a first visit, not knowing chemistry and spark. Just spitballing here, $200/session, 2 sessions a day, 15 working days a month is $6k a month. Figuring they pay tax on half (smart way to do it), that works out to the equivalent of about $90k a year to the rest of us. Not a bad living... 2 hours a day, 15 days a month.

Well, did it? improve your orgasm?

Careful about trotting out the "safe" tag for MP's, maybe limit it to "safeR". Remember the incident that caused the demise of 205 Alexander...

Any word on the new owners of the Osborne Health Clinic (across from EB/TO)?