Mars_Bound

Would love to hear the feedback on this. MOD, please chime in as well. Are incalls illegal? For you seasoned and veteran SP's , have you had any problems doing incalls at your apartments and the LE(cops)? Do LE, cops, actually go out of their way and launch busts for sps who do incall. For one girl who she is the only one working out of her apartment, is it safe to do incalls? What steps should be taken? I guess one common step is to have low traffic so the neighbours wont complain. Can a girl successfull work out of her apartment long term (without having to move around) doing incalls? Thanks

Well that depends, remember the whole passport law only came into effect last year I believe. So up till then Canadian, U.s And European citizens could travel without passport. They only needed their driver's license.

I disagree with this one. If the SP agrees to be with you on the trip. You are paying for her time (anything else that happens is between two consulting adults), you are not paying for sex. SPs that I know who offer travel and companion services charge based on time spent. 12 hrs, 1 wk, 1 month, 3 days e.t.c. So technically you should be refunded 5 hrs.

There are a few black girls on CL. One from Cuba called Pamela I think. There is another one that does only outcalls, there is Yaya. Any reco appreciated.

could you pm me the link for janie?

Well I use CL a lot. It has come down to an art really. I can feel the girl out and stay clear of the troubled ones. I cant say I really had any trouble there. I had more trouble using the SUN... even though I did meet one sweet girl through the sun. Sometimes I am in the mood to try to guess what they look like... I go to the sun. For CL, yes there are some bad apples there. Cant really tell you what to look for other than maybe check cerb and use Cowboy Kenny's site. When I am not too sure then I come here on CERB and start a thread. If I have the need to review , I also review here as well. As for getting ripped off, you might as well accept that it comes with the territory and LE wont help you... trust me. I been down that road before too. I actually had LE laught at me and drive off. Its like if you are a snake handler, you will get bit even once in your life. So when that happens to you, take it in stride and warn others. Try to reflect and see what you can do the next time to better protect yourself. If you go to the LE, they may just haul you in. Girls handled by Pimps tend to be little bit more dangerous (for obvious reasons). Unless you are studying Ninjitsu and can take out the pimp and his 100 cronies, I would recommend not to haggle too much over any problems that may arise. Just pay and leave, cry later or pull some overtime at work to make up for the funds lost. My buddy got stabbed by a pimp because the date went bad. The Pimp is in jail but my buddy could have lost his life. Not worth it at all.

Its not LE. I have visited her before and services are ok. If you are into chocolate ice-cream she is the one for you. Looks , ok, services ok.

Its not LE. I have visited her before and services are ok. If you are into chocolate ice-cream she is the one for you. Looks , ok, services ok.

From what I understand, if she has to provide the condoms you pay full $120. If you bring your own you pay $90.... either way you will be using a condom... period. It seems maybe she is budgeting a lot to buy condoms not realizing you can get those for free

That is what lends to the appeal of strip clubs , because its like playing the lottery. sometimes the score is good. I have had my fair share..... nothing quite like what I would really like to experience though

which club was this man?

As I read this I figured it had to be years ago. For one, the Mate now falls under Ottawa Bi-Law. So CR has to be open and accessible. There is a camera right in the ceiling and the Ottawa Police drop in from time to time and do a walk through. So any high mileage is over. Best would be to try to get her to go back with you for FS and/or private dance. That is now the new challenge. FS strip clubs dont really count because its the rule rather than the exception. Do you know or have a list of FS sc with pretty girls you have been to?

is there any more information on Sans Frontiere. Never knew FS clubs were possible in Ontario

how did that fire start? never knew there was a fire.

the challenge is to pick one up, and be able to take her home or to a motel for a private dance. Of course, forget trying to get high mileage in clubs in Ottawa. The by-law now stops that. Some champagne rooms even have video cameras now. Police spot checks are common place too.

Maybe you could have tried that one girl for some extras.... if she was good looking. Isnt the mileage supposed to be higher at those times. I hear usually bouncers arent around (mainly because there are not enough customers to cause trouble) and usually few girls. I heard this was often the case in Ontario clubs, especially the Silver Dollar, hence the reason the bi-law came into effect. I wouldnt go around lunch, sun is too bright. I would probably go around 4 or 6pm (yes, summer sun is still bright then too) but you have more girls coming in for their shifts. Most of the pretty ones start at 7pm. Also you can get the girl when she is fresh. Maybe she might be more open to extras. Yes do try and report back. Even if you dongo through with it, it would be nice to see if the girl would be open to extras, if not at the club itself then maybe at the motel nearby.

For this attractive girl do you know if FS was offered on her menu? Would you say the girls there are worth the drive for a FS menu choice? If not, then I would rather head the 2hours to Montreal, Bar Le Gentleman for FS. The girls there are young and pretty. It might serve you better to go early because almost every other guy is there for the same thing. One girl I got, she was thin and sweet and tight..... but only problem I arrived late I could smell the sweat on her....... but otherwise the girls were pretty. p.s. dont assume all the girls there offer FS. If that is what you are looking for, its better to ask upfront. Also unlike Ottawa/Ontario montreal is more sex friendly, the cops have better things to do than to go into these clubs as undercover cops to try to bust them. Correct me if I am wrong, but I say this because the girl I went with, she didnt even ask if I was undercover or not. or maybe its a YMMV thing.

To be correct, no private booths in Ontario Strip Clubs. That is the new Ottawa Bi-Law. In fact, if you go to the Playmate look carefully in the ceiling of the CR (champagne room/dance booths) (SE upper corner) you will see a camera. Thats right, a camera. Its a black dome camera. I assume due to its location its actually focused on booths and not elsewhere. I heard the tapes are reviewed every night to see which girl went too far. The LE , in addition to dropping in from time to time to do their 'visual inspections', also can view those tapes. Since the new Bi-Law, I have only been to the Playmate because mileage (outside of the club) seems to be better. If you go during the week like Monday or Tuesday there are some girls who havent even made taxi fare and would be more open to negotiating a private dance outside the club. Clubs like the Barefax which have prettier girls but never good mileage I havent even bother visiting. Mileage was always low and certainly with 'open CR' it cant be any better.

I been to 45 recently. Extras are very excellent. Do you know when 45 St. Joseph was busted? Was it last year? I went this year and had great extras. I will pm details because I think LE reads these boards so I dont want to go into details. The main concern guys, how to avoid getting caught in a bust? I understand the Bust are random. But if you get caught, I understand you have to pay your lawyer fee. I mean in your defense you could say you were there for a legitimate massage bcause you hurt your back. Massage as the ad says. No if you are caught in a compromising position... dont know what the legal bounds are. Why do they bust the place then if they legally re-open shortly after? I have tried to get the girl to come back with me to my motel.... extras would be better, but they wont. Is there a best time to go to MP, a time when LE will likely do a bust. I mean, LE wont come in at 2:00am to do a bust right? Everyone is sleeping by then. Only the U.S. army does that in Iraq. So I am thinking if you guys show up close to closing, you may escape the bust. Any feedback?

what clubs are you visiting man? and is it a daytime trip or nightime? Girls in the daytime tend to offer more mileage. But maybe you are just good at building a rapoitre. Or maybe they girls like you.... or maybe they smell cash on you. Many variables.

Do you know the name of that club and its address, the one in Grneville. Will check it out and update the board. Also do you know the exact address for the club b Frontierre, sorry I can only move around with a GPS/car nav. Not familiar with the city

Indeed. I too realized that I am burning through way too much cash trying to get a girl back to the pad. Most girls wont even open negotiation with you unless you go for a dance. I have adopted the strategy of my buddy. That is tell and pay the girl upfront that you are there for two dances only. give her the $40. Then try to negotiate her coming back to the pad. Yeah.... money, even if you have lots is precious. I realize that now. And so I make a girl work hard for my money.

Luckily there is a motel located nearby. Have you succeded in taking home a dancer from Taboo or Pigales? that is a dream and the challenge is just addictive.

dont you find that cost way too much to invite a dancer home for private dances. Last time I requested this a dancer was charging $500 for that. You could have 4 or 5 escorts at half hour for that price or one escort for 4 or 5 hours (maybe sleepover if you are lucky), and those escorts are just as hot looking as the dancer. SO its easier for guys to push for the service (FS , extras e.t.c) in the club themselves.

I agree as well. I had one sweet stripper that like me ask me the same thing. I gave her a brief lesson in economics. If the other girls are willing to do the same $20 per dance she is charging but allow for more (fingers, rimming, hj e.t.c) then those girls will get more dances and this will set up the expectation (demand) for subsequent clients. The most she can do is say yes or no but I told her not to bother using energy to be disturbed at the request. In almost any club you will meet different girls with varying degrees of mileage. Some may sleep with you.... others not. e.t.c