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That's understandable...my first time with a SP, I was nervous as hell before she arrived to the point that when she was 15 mins late, I was hoping that she wasn't coming at all. But then she rang the doorbell and the girl at the door was a 10 for what I find attractive. She was great to talk to, we chatted for a half hour and then got to business. But I was still a little freaked out by what I was getting myself into, and had a hard time finishing. Thankfully, it was a 2 hour visit and it almost took the rest of that time before I reached completion. I remember thinking that if this beautiful girl just sat next to me in a bar and said hi, I probably could have ran to the washroom and tossed one off in record time just imagining what she looked like naked in bed with me. And here she was for real and I could barely keep it up - not something I ever had a problem with before! Guess it didn't help that I was thinking instead of relishing the moment...and the anti-depressants I was taking at the time were a little counter productive for that as well ;) I didn't feel like I had the most satisfying sexual experience ever - although it was still a lot of fun - but I did feel remarkably better. So much so that I stopped taking those damn pills and haven't needed them since. Hmm, that reminds me to call my MP to see if we can get this therapeutic treatment covered under OHIP :mrgreen:

He sows his oats by shooting lawyers in the face instead :mrgreen:

Great posts from Cat and Brandi, very well said and enlightening on both counts. Trust is a hard thing no matter what, but the extra variables in this pastime can make things that much trickier I suppose...

Yeah, that was definitely something you had to dig for on the website and if I didn't know she was a he already, I probably wouldn't have figured it out on my own. Funny how it's clear on CL what she/he offers/is, but not the professionally created website. Maybe it's some bizarre american law where you're not allowed to tell people that you're a TS

That is a good point, never looked at it that way! But then again, when I have friends with skills, or they want my help, there's never been money exchanged. If it was a big job, definitely. But in my eyes, this is a more personal occupation and my friends are my friends...they get 100% of me if that's the case. So to differentiate between what time is friendship and what time is professional wouldn't seem natural to me personally. I'll see what happens though...a year ago I never considered delving into this world and now I'm here. My perspective is bound to change some more as time goes by...

I thought that this might be good conversation fodder to see how naive I may or may not be. I've had a particular SP over several times and heard a lot of the usual 'praises' about my personality, sexual prowess and overall likability. No matter which SP it is, I always take these comments with the requisite grain of salt because the truth of the matter is, you are paying for a service and it does make for a more enjoyable experience to hear these things. How much is truth and what is embellished as part of the act I don't bother trying to distinguish. You take it for what it's worth because of the overall semantics of the situation. But for the most part, I do believe I'm good company and there are a few girls where it's obvious there's a real fun connection between us. However, this one girl has made many suggestions about hanging out in the real world, and with her last visit she was talking about it more seriously, more excitedly. I don't have a problem with it, I really enjoy her company and even just shooting the shit over beer for a few hours would be great. But although I have her 'private' number, she is still impossible to get a hold of without going through the basic, insulated layers of booking an appointment. So my question is this: Is this a ploy used sometimes to keep a guy hooked, make him feel like he's the special one out of all the others? There was enough about the whole situation that made it seem very genuine, but the dynamics of the biz makes it hard to really know for sure. And to be honest, I'm personally of the opinion where if it's either truth or fib, it would cancel me out as a client whichever way. If it is true and I hang out with anyone as a friend, I don't think I can go from that to being a paying client at a later time. And if it's a lie, I don't care to be manipulated to that degree....it's crossing a line in my books. Telling me you had an orgasm if you didn't is one thing, but this is a little different. I'm not upset about it or anything, but it has made me stop and ponder the rules of the game so to speak. Like I said, it has likely cost this SP me as a client one way or the other. Then again, who am I kidding....the blood will eventually leave my brain and return to my balls and I'll be calling up that number one more time ;)

Personally, when a SP is looking after the phone instead of me, I find that to be fairly rude unless it is a rare occurance and handled appropriately. But that reminds me of the one time that I was with Shy. We were working on shot #2 and she needed to make a call to make sure there was a driver showing up to get her. So while making the call and talking to the driver, she was going down on me inbetween sentences...that's an example of it being handled well ;) She was great, I keep meaning to repeat but never get around to it - incredible butt on that girl, wonderful skin, open minded personality and laid back.

Ya, I know the girl of whom you speak and I can say I was fortunate that she told me shortly beforehand she was likely giving it up soon. Funny thing was, she said that she was trying to start a relationship with somebody while we were having our pre-game chit chat, and I almost felt guilty about following up with the rest of the encounter. But I got over that and when we got to it, it was as passionate a time as I've had even with any real girlfriend before. We came together and just laid there silent for a few minutes after. Her whole visit was very sweet and when she left, we hugged at the door and said goodbye knowing that our paths would never cross again. But I was really happy for her and glad that she was getting out of the biz. As much as I adored every time we were together, I could never understand how she gave what she did every time I saw her. She would look you in the eyes and smile warmly in such a way, you were convinced she wanted to be there with you and no one else. One of the swetest girls I've ever met - period. I thought about seeing her again because that last night was so amazing, but in the end I figured you can only say goodbye once and it wouldn't be the same again. So I left it at that. But the feeling of not being able to see her again is a non-issue for me now because I'm more content that she's going to be doing what she really wants...

As much as we'd love to save a few bucks (you know, more for the next time), I would be somewhat hesitant to accept a discount unless the agency was genuinely sincere in their promise. What would worry me is if they were taking a piece of that discount out of the SP's cut. These ladies deserve their share and should not have to be subjected to paying a favour for the agency's prior mistake. It could conceivably happen, so to make sure I would probably feel obliged to make sure the girl was well tipped (from the wallet I mean) and that negates any discount. Just a thought....

Pretty sure it wasn't that particular girl who wrote the comment...just saw her and from the conversation we had (not specific to Cowboy's issue), it was another person that wrote it. Which makes it worse because not only is this person uttering crap like that behind the safety of anonymity, they are associating it to someone else entirely who likely doesn't deserve that label.

All boils down to personal preference I suppose. I am a father and it would not bother me, but I have a 3yr old son, so perhaps if I had a 17 yr old daughter I would think differently? Tough to say. I'm sure there are some guys who would frown upon excessive vulgarity and others would thrive upon it. The SP can't please everyone, much like everything else in life...

You are right, I am being vague and for you to assume that this is a shill, that is understandable. I was fully aware of that when I made the post and I get why you need to have names and more details regarding the specific girls. But I come on this board and some of the others occasionally, read about certain providers and wondered why there was never anything said about the girls from this agency. I've had nothing but good experiences with them and felt that I should contribute something. Like I said, it's just not my style to comment about specifics, but I did offer to be more forthright in a PM. Take it or leave it....

I just want to throw in my two cents here since I rarely view any comments on DV anywhere at all. I've used them a half dozen times this year with 3 different girls and have never been disappointed - always have a smile on my face when they leave. For me, a big reason for enlisting anyone's service is the company they provide if I have to spend a few hours with them. If that comfort and interest isn't there, I don't care how good the rest is, it will not be as potent. Physical attraction is huge too...when you're coughing up a few bucks and indulging in this type of interaction, you don't want to feel short changed. So that being said, the pictures are/were 100% real of all 3 and I loved every minute being with each. They all had great personalities and were very bright. And really beautiful as well. One wasn't a knockout, but still pretty and she was the one I went to the most because she was the most permissive (DFK, DATY, Greek) and really fun to chat with. I used another online service in Ottawa once to try something different and felt ripped off. Actually I was since, other than the fact that the girl was uninteresting, unattractive and very awkward when it came down to business, she also left a half hour early and looked at me as if I was freak for wanting MSOG. She told me I should have 'taken care of it' before she got there. But I guess when you have an agency of girls where the ranks will fluctuate quite frequently, it all comes down to the individuals. Maybe some people out there have not had a great experience with DV because of the girl or what they wouldn't offer, but for me, no complaints at all. A few hiccups in booking here and there, but I always call on a whim for that night so shit happens. Sorry for not providing any names, but I don't feel right giving that out in a public domain. What I will say is that the most permissive one I spoke of earlier looks like she left there about a month ago. I may consider giving more details in a PM....