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Soleil, you have nothing to be embarrassed about. You'd be surprised at how many others have been in the same boat.

Annessa, I think in many cases where it seems that a person is an addict in one way or another, whether it be sex or drugs, and they get to that point where they are ripping people off, it still isn't necessarily addiction. Some people are manipulators and exhibit sociopathic behaviour to get what they want because they don't genuinely care about others or think the world owes them something. It's like lending a friend money and they don't pay you back. Someone with empathy and a sense of responsibility will feel obligated to do whatever they can to return the money asap. Then there are those who take the money and later you see them doing reckless things with their cash in the future, literally flaunting it in front of you, meanwhile you're still sitting there wondering when you're getting it back. You don't say anything at first because you think that they should have the same perspective, but they don't. I've seen that so much, and those type of people do the same thing to everyone. They get people to trust them, find a dealer that will front weed, steal from those who 'carelessly' leave money around, and generally try to take advantage of anyone who lets them. They have learned to know who is a trusting soul, can read the naive, and will latch on to them like a parasite. So in my view, I wouldn't even give them the courtesy of labeling them an addict, even though many of the actions read like that. They are self-absorbed pieces of shit, plain and simple. I'm of the opinion that if you give them a term to define what they do, it almost acts as an excuse...you know? Many people who are addicts have a moral centre and are torn by what they do to feed their demons, which is why they eventually seek help to kick whatever habit is destroying them. Not so much for the manipulative types - the only thing that makes them stop is not being able to find another person to siphon. And that's more like a pause because they eventually find a new target.

I'm starting to get to the point where I want to stop and most likely will soon. Bear in mind, I've said that about smoking many, many times before as well. I can echo some of cap's feelings about it, and have some pros and cons of my own. There's no guilt or regret for me at all, but psychologically it has been...unique. Some amazing benefits that were unexpected when I started, and some personal mind games that occasionally left me questioning just what was going on. So could I quit today? Maybe. Tomorrow? Yes. A few months from now? I have no idea...

It seems like a funky law. The way I always interpreted it was that a 14 year old could have sex with someone younger than 18 and it was ok. Just did a quick search and apparently Harper raised the age to 16, but there is a "close-in-age-exception" for 14-15 year olds where they are allowed to have sex with someone 5 years older. I think the 18 and over thing in the thread is more about people being old enough to be a prostitute or consent in sexual acts for public distribution (i.e. porn or stripping, etc.).

There actually is a 3M plant outside of Ottawa in a place called Perth. Very charming little town...part of the whole fantasy I got going ;)

I think sex addiction is a definable and serious psychological problem. Being a 'hobbiest' is mostly guys who don't get as much sex as they want for whatever reason, and they don't have a problem paying for it. And sometimes it's just being lonely and needing some intimate human contact, not simply sex although that's part of it. It is a bit insulting to throw the term sex addict out there if there was someone who actually was one reading it. There are addictive properties to this, but for the most part it ain't as simple as sex.

That was insane

Sexy Brooke

Totally man. Always wanted to go there and fuck a post-it note.

No one is going to disagree with being disgusted by this behaviour. However, what I find interesting is that we have this obsession based on a legal standard determined by a universal biological/chronological number. If she just turned 18, it's ok - but 2 weeks before that it's wrong. There's a lot of girls between the ages of 18-22 that aren't emotionally mature enough to be working in an adult business. But since it's ok LEGALLY, we accept it. Food for thought... Posted via Mobile Device

Shall we assume this is where your moniker came from? ;) Hmmm, where oh where did Jeff Mangum go...

Given all the music I have, it's so obvious I really pay no attention to the lyrics! Of course I've heard Roxanne and HOTRS (hey that acronym almost looks like something), and Angelene is one of favs from PJ, but I never put 2+2 together or had a clue any of them were about 'the biz'. So I had to cheat and do a search to see if I could find any others that are tunes in my collection: Walk on the Wild Side - Lou Reed Family Man - Mike Oldfield (please FUCK Hall & Oates version) Call Me - Blondie Hustle Rose - Metric The Whores Hustle And The Hustlers Whore - PJ Harvey (ok this one I figured all by myself) There's probably more. I'll be spending the next few weeks going through my shit...

Cheater ;)

That's as far as I got, sorry. Breakups suck, end of story. Being vindictive and petty is not a proper manifestation of love. Live your own life. Take your cash and spend it wisely...like get multiple sp's spread out over time. That'll take your mind off things.

Not a good enough reason to justify sex work with a child present. I'm not saying that is the case here, but there's no circumstance ever that could justify it. Holy fuck.

Well the results are in and I am a loser! The game was fixed, even though I was the one who cheated, since she posted something worth commenting on and I really don't think that was fair ;) So now I get to fess up: The loser had to buy the other a lap dance. Yeah, I'd rather lose given that scenario. And in losing, I proved my original point. I am so smart! S-M-R-T smart!

Yes we are. Bit of a dilemma all around. I would sooner see this thread deleted or at least have all connecting info removed. That's not really possible though, is it?

Yeah...good luck on that one! I think it would require some funky programming and it could also reduce traffic on the site which would subsequently lessen potential for ad revenue. Maybe I'm way off in those assumptions but, if not, it wouldn't make that much sense to spend money to make less. I know some tricks you can do to make your cell phone smarter and might make things easier for you. Just send me a pm and I'll tell ya ;)

You're quite right Naomi, but regardless of how anyone here judges the situation, if CAS catches wind of this she will likely lose her child. I know a provider that lost her 2 children for what CAS perceived as endangerment. Now she never worked with her children around - the incident was regarding someone else that she was not supposed to be in contact with - but the kids are gone and apparently for good. People do bring it on themselves, but I still cannot imagine anything worse than having your child taken away from you. Unfortunately, it is usually justified.

This is not something I believe that can be remedied by merely sending a pm or banning the provider from cerb or whatever. Anyone that does not understand how wrong this is to begin with has deeper problems. I hope she sees this and realizes the error of her ways, because the next step here will ultimately lead to losing her child. And what can we do? Nothing. If she doesn't get the shit scared out of her from that possibility, she can be tossed from cerb and will go back to getting more dates on CL. One day, all this info will come out and she will have her child(ren) taken away. And for all intents and purposes, this should stay as a warning here because I wouldn't want to be in that apartment with my pants down when the police and/or children's aid comes knocking. Most accounts of this sp have generally said that she is shy and pleasant, and chances are she is a decent person trapped in some way into what she's doing where the consequences are not prominent to her. Who knows what that trap is - financial, psychological, coercion, etc. But my opinion is that we can do nothing. No one really knows enough to take it upon themselves to contact the authorities...that could effect a few lives in a very serious way. And if the sp in question reads this, please seek help for your situation. You may even find some people here that can assist you.

If true that is totally not acceptable. Another thing to note is that she is a member here on cerb and most people are going to recognize who that is. I don't know what to suggest here because there are implications that could very well lead to CAS getting involved. Hopefully she will see this or someone can get through to her.

Not that you'll find any interested in that scenario, but why bother with an sp at all anyways? Since all you're into is deceiving your ex, might as well put an ad up on CL and see if you can get some random college girl to help you out. What I will say is that all you're accomplishing by doing this is proving that you're not over your ex. If you were, you wouldn't care what she thinks - maybe that's what you should focus on instead.

That should be what it's all about, but it is like anything in life - ain't that simple. So many different people, different sets of circumstance, and different connections. You can control what you do with your emotions, but you can't control how you feel.

Even begging gets me nowhere! I am losing this one for sure haha

The dollar is a dive and the 'private' viewing area looks like a locker room. If you're looking for a place to get hammered and puke on the floor, this is probably the place to go. Otherwise, don't bother. And from what I remember at the Dollar, there's signs everywhere about not touching the girls due to the bylaws, but the girls just tell you to ignore them ;)