YoungStud

Very weird situation. Would you feel a bit better about it if he performed better than you do? :wink:

Not worth losing sleep over a guy who has his priorities so wrong.

Thank God you've gone to confession so regularly! :roll:

Court hears teen?s story of drugs, prostitution Pretrial begins in case of alleged human trafficking Link to new story: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Court+hears+teen+story+drugs+prostitution/1159266/story.html

Interesting that there seem to be rather wide views on the differences between GFE and PSE. Using Dummpy's definition, from session to session, and sometimes within one session, I've often had GFE and PSE experiences with the same woman. Which makes it even more difficult to give Cumquat anything even close to a definitive answer, except to say that the women whom everyone agrees are PSE are probably going to provide PSE every time. But there's a whole other range of possibilities as well which just have to be explored on an individual basis. On a purely "services provided" basis, PSE for me should include one or more of the following: BBBJ + one of CIM/COF/CIF; option of Greek; open to group activities of various kinds.

Glad you were able to enjoy the "essence" of Bambi, Lurker. Mod, perhaps these comments should be appended to Bambi's recommendation in that section?

I find it a bit difficult to give a complete answer as some of my favorite PSE advertise as GFE. Of those clearly offering some sort of PSE, Paige and Shy both offer Greek, Redseductress and Erin are both open about providing various PSE services. (Unlike Dummpy, I go with the services provided to define PSE. Body types are up to individual tastes.) But some of my faves bill themselves as GFE while being open to doing quite a bit more in certain situations with certain people. And if someone who advertises as safe GFE is willing to do, for example, bukkake or covered vag DP sometimes, I'm not going to break their confidence.

Does "third lady at one point" mean they did trios? I've always beleived "the more the merrier" was frequently the way to go. :-P

Michelle (Lil Hottie) has just moved there: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=7406

I find it interesting that most of the established independents have websites which are modern marketing aids that present them in an attractive and professional way and have up-to-date easy to find useful information. I can only think of one local agency that tries to do a reasonably good job in that area. Have owned and run several business over the years, I can only say if you don't understand your target customer group and you don't understand marketing, then you probably shouldn't be in business. As marketing and promoting escorts is one of the main business reasons for agencies, it's even more important for them to be able to do this professionally and effectively.

Exactly. As I noted in my original post on this thread, "that's why I avoid all the agencies completely now, at least here in Ottawa." There are some agencies in Toronto and Montreal which sponsor visiting escorts here and do it very well. I've also used them from time to time when traveling to those cities and others. My issue is only with the local agencies. I've dealt at least once with each of the "major" ones here and finally reached a point where it seemed really wasn't worth the hassle to deal with any of them, given the independent alternative. Having "stirred the pot" a bit by floating the suggestion they should all be banned from CERB, I'm happy to go with the majority feedback on this point. Sounds like Honeyzworld is out in any case. However, personally, I'd find it convenient to see the Ottawa Female Service Providers - Schedules, Advertisements & announcements section be divided into Independents and Agencies. Just my 2 ?

Yes, used to have a 10 a.m. start about a year ago, but now 3 p.m. Also, has lots of repeats I think, so some interest in new business, but not as crucial as someone just starting out.

Yep, I agree. Though folks might be more inclined to more particular about their purchases, which could weed out the amateurs from the experts a bit. (Love your new ID pic, BTW, Inaluki. Much better than a car. lol)

Pete has summed things up perfectly.

I don't miss PK here and I won't miss Honeyzworld. In fact, I wouldn't see it as a big loss if all the agencies were dropped or at least put in their own section. Put the emphasis on supporting the independents and cut out the middle person. They don't really seem to add much compared to the independents.

Yep, that's why I avoid all the agencies completely now, at least here in Ottawa. Too amateurish. For real professionals, deal with the established independents. BTW, Jessica can be contacted via her own web site: http://oneprovocativejessica.escortsite.com/

Here's the contact info: http://www.canpages.ca/page/QC/gatineau/bonne-detente/3841941.html Give them a call.

Excellent review, Taxman. And given the choice, I agree, PSE is always more satisfying that GFE.

Tell him on the phone. Give you both the choice to decide then if you still want to meet in person.

Congrats on the busy digits Pete - on the keyboard. 8-) Also, anybody who refers to a foursome orgy as "quaint" is just too cool, in my opinion. Love it!

Uhm, I think Cialis and Viagra help your dick get hard when you're already in the mood and help you stay harder longer, not improve your "mood". If you're too uptight to get hard in the first place, I don't think they will solve your problem. Anyway, follow up on the other good advice here and as you say, once you're "over the hump", so to speak, the rest will be easy. Good luck!

I too have a good friend in the business. Interestingly, her sexual exploits before she became an escort and the ones she continues to have in her private life are far more adventurous than her professional ones, though she has many satisfied clients and offers a good range of services. She's also one of the smartest, nicest and best people I know.

This is the website: http://www.clubmadellynjae.com/

Fun Valerie does not have a recommendation on here but you can find info about her on other boards.

Well, actually, Seymour, humour is always helpful when you're discussing a shitty topic. {;-)