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Yup! You're right, and make a good point. My argument was more general, I guess. It's most definitely dripping with hypocrisy to wrap one's self up in a cloak of righteous piety AFTER having found, registered on, posted on, and hunted through the photo albums of semi-clad sex workers on, an escort recommendation board. ("Oh my stars and garters! A sexy NUN! How unchristian -- this must not stand!") But even if the images were of a non-Church subject, like French maids or, yes, even an adult dressed as a sexy schoolgirl, I'd still defend it. For me the hypocrisy argument, no matter how apt in this case, is too narrow for the overall subject.

Mine is Jayne Cobb from the shortlived TV series Firefly. Wearing, of course, the goofy knitted hat he got from his mom. I picked it to celebrate the TV show, which I still mourn a little, and to embrace the silliness. "Shiny!"

Slippery slope. The main theme of this whole place is sex and sexuality in its many diverse forms. Nothing illegal or otherwise violating CERB's posting standards should be permitted, but other than that we need to err on the side of tolerance, not deference to people's hangups. I don't think the digression into the merits of the church shed any useful light on the subject. I'm much more concerned that someone could come here and then be shocked (shocked!) to find that, yes, one of their favourite pet icons of virtue can naturally be flipped to work as a sexual symbol. Such contradictions and taboos can be deeply seductive. Let's not hide from that. I'm glad you raised the issue originally, but I find the idea that we should be on our tiptoes lest we upset the pious deeply, deeply flawed. "Hey! My *sister* works as a maid in France and she takes her job very seriously!" Oh please.

As a character on Deadwood once said, "What claim does your piety have on my deference?" That tension between the Good implied by the dress and the Bad that's implied by the wearer is exactly the point of the outfit; it makes it a potent symbolic and sexual mix for some people. More power to 'em. That's the hazard of a free society: barring trademarks, symbols like "nun" aren't the private property of any one person or club. The church has invested a lot in building up nuns as symbols of purity and chastity, and I (mostly) don't begrudge them the uses they make of that symbol. But likewise, they need to accept that once it's out there, others can use that symbol for other purposes. Even purposes they don't like. As for individuals who have an emotional stake in Nun Purity, they need to get a grip too, and accept that their devotion to the symbol doesn't earn them special status in adjudicating its use. *Everyone* owns "nun", and can make what use of it they wish. I disagree that using the Bad Nun symbol in what's clearly a sex-friendly setting is in bad taste. I actually think it's plenty clever. What would be in bad taste would be, say, leaping up in a church service and handing out copies of the picture. But that ain't happening here.

Only in Canada, eh? Pity!

I think it's more like that mechanic relationship you mentioned than some of us would like to think... but that doesn't diminish its value. Clients and SPs have a business relationship, but it's an exchange that transpires in an intimate, deeply personal space. That's where the confusion can come from. The thing being sold is physical and personal intimacy. Sometimes, it's pretty straightforward sex-for-hire. Other times, both parties are picking through a dense thicket of the client's feelings, desires, and vulnerabilities. I imagine most sessions are somewhere in the middle. An SP's working self has to be prepared for whoever comes through the door, and good SPs do their best to find out what one particular client needs, and fulfil that during the time together. But remember that the experience is asymmetrical. The client wants what's being offered badly enough to pay a considerable sum for it. Some kind of obstacle keeps him from obtaining the same thing in "civilian" life. But the SP is generally more comfortable, and expert, with the thing being purchased. The two people involved are engaged interactively with each other, and can be entirely honest while doing so, but in the bigger picture the experience means very different things to each of them. As intimate relationships go, the one a client has with an SP is equipped with a pair of gigantic training wheels. The SP is assured to be interested, generally accommodating, reassuring, and focused on the client's satisfaction. Things are pretty much assured to go well for the client. But that artificial safety also limits the relationship's real utility: you're only going to learn so much, and experience so much, in any kind of relationship with an SP. And I can only imagine that the accommodation this requires on the SPs part instantly limits the depth and significance of the relationship, friendship, or whatever we want to call it to her. She limits her responses to suit the situation: in making those choices, she adopts a role. In that sense, we can't avoid the fact that at least to some degree, it is an act. But that's okay: if you saw, let's say, a conventional psychotherapist, that's like a friendship with gigantic training wheels. That person isn't really your friend in a conventional sense. The therapist might genuinely care about you as a person (with some professional detachment). You cover some very intimate and personal ground, and develop some kind of professional-yet-personal relationship. And both parties are being perfectly honest throughout the exchange. It's just that they've also set boundaries and adopted certain roles. Consider SPs as a kind if intimate therapist, and I think you're close to the real nature of the relationship. At least, for those guys who are looking for that. For some, it's much simpler. It's all part of the same broad territory. "Paid friends with benefits"? Okay, but only to the extent that a psychotherapist is a paid friend without them. ;) The SP's responses are friendlier, closer, more personal... but that professional wall remains. ps: I've presumed here to make claims about the experience from an SP's perspective that I can't possibly know about for certain. To those who know better, please jump in and correct me wherever I've gone wrong. pps: This grew waaay longer-winded than I'd planned. Sorry. It's a subject I get super-talky about.

London, England. The city is ALIVE with world culture and deep history. Living there, the city becomes a character of its own, and demands the best of you to deserve your place there. I've loved all the time I've spent there, and can't wait to return. On the other hand, I really hated every minute I spent in New York. :) Just not the same experience for me at all.

I agree there can be a natural inclination for some clients to start confusing the "relationship' with a regular MA or SP with a conventional one, and then to impose onto that a set of artificial but familiar rules, boundaries, and postures. That's exactly the time it becomes a good idea to see a different escort and pointedly get a reference from the regular MA/SP, even if one wasn't really needed. Puncture that confused and distorted little bubble. Demonstrate to yourself that despite what you were tricking yourself into thinking, it doesn't actually diminish the relationship with the regular companion. Carry that knowledge away and refine your model of the world. If you're a client, then the less comfortably that idea sits with you, then the more it's a good idea to force yourself to do it. ;)

We're stronger together than apart. We have more in common than is different, including the simple merit of shared history. If Quebec can separate from Canada, than vast swathes of native populations that make up a large part of the Quebec north can separate from them -- it's a slippery slope that gains nothing in the long run. Consider it like a marriage between Quebec and Canada: it's worth working stuff out if possible. (Although maybe this is the wrong board to put it that way! Then again, I don't mind of Quebec and France want to have their little fling on the side. But I fear Quebec would be the client in that relationship, and France the SP.) There are plenty of ways to accommodate Quebec's unique identity within Canada without resorting to splitting the nation up. And I say that as a guy who grew up in beautiful, seedy, and deliciously corrupt Montréal.

Boy, are we ever having different experiences during our encounters. ;) It's not that developing feelings (let's call it "affection") with an SP is forbidden; something like that is a natural consequence of the intimate interaction that goes with better sessions. But for practical reasons there are boundaries on that affection, and most especially when it comes to acting on it. Enjoy the feeling during a session, and in the afterglow, but learn to let it fade. There's not much I discuss here that I couldn't talk to most SPs about during a session; I've had some amazing conversations and learned a lot. I wouldn't broach some subjects right upon walking in the door, but I do strike up a kind of easy back and forth with most SPs I see, and especially after a few sessions together. Conversations can go to most places they might go with someone I was meeting for a date, though everyone's comfort level is different. Also, keep in mind that I tend toward sessions of several hours' duration, since developing this rapport takes a little time; but to me it's an important part of a good experience. Good behaviour here on the board is nothing more than you'd be expected to show to any group of people at, say, a big dinner party: be respectful, kind, and generous. Let people express themselves, and if you disagree, stay civil. If you kept that up at big weekly parties for a few months, you'd start to grow very comfortable with the crowd. I think that's sort of what it's like for a lot of people here. I'm not really seeing the contradiction. Nor the irony, whose definition I gently suggest you check -- I don't think that word means what you think it means. ;)

Wow. Brutal thread. Not something I expected to see here. I think if we did a thread count, the personal stuff would be a teeny tiny minority of the things discussed here. There's still plenty of money-for-sex talk for those who want it. But if that was ALL that I found here, I wouldn't stick around very long - I guess I'd just pay brief visits whenever my blood was up. I don't come here primarily to read about other members' personal lives, but I'm happy when I see that some people are comfortable enough to post something about themselves they're feeling strongly about at the moment. The place *is* a community. There's lots of room for everyone, and people who don't appreciate talk outside certain narrow boundaries are free to skip the threads they don't like. And to me, the modest number of personal discussions here serve a valuable function: they humanize both clients and SPs, proving you can sell sex and pay for sex yet still be a thinking, feeling, sometimes intelligent person with a wealth of other interests. And as fellow human beings, some other clients and SPs might actually be interested in hearing what you have to say, and helping out a bit, even if it's not about our dicks and "titties". In that respect, part of those threads' value is *precisely* that they're on an escort recommendation board. I wouldn't want those discussions to dominate the board, but in their current proportion I find them not just tolerable, they actually make the place more human.

Points to ya for asking an honest question. As others have brought up, this nation decided some time ago that it wasn't just an estranged mass of individuals: we're a community, and have a collective responsibility to support one another. If someone is being beaten on the street, should I just walk by because self-defense is the victim's own responsibility? If I walk by a starving person, should I quietly congratulate myself on my own good fortune, or share my food? In Canada these things aren't left to individual whims, they're collective civic duties that we all support with our taxes. It's a defining feature of the nation. It got that way because at some point, a majority felt it was better to live together and help one another. The alternative is to live our lives fragmented down to strictly self-interested economic agents, each of us an island unto ourselves. As balances go between hyper-individualistic Libertarians ("Who is John Galt!?") and flat-out nobody-owns-anything-everybody-owns-everything Communists ("The state will wither away. We promise!"), I think Canada's approach is pretty darned good.

Mixture of true and false information. See: Snopes link The clue that the information is probably bunk is "send this to 10 people!". That's the true purpose of the entire message: to make people share it with others. It's an e-mail virus (virus in the sense of "designed solely for maximal replication").

You can visit and SP for one thing, yet find warmth and value in something different and unexpected. It's a bit the same with CERB. Yup, it works just fine as just a recommendation board; but there's good people, some honesty, and an opportunity for a little more if you care to look for it and invest something yourself. It's a great place that I've really come to appreciate. I'm on and off myself these days -- I think it's time for me to take a break from the hobby for a little while. But I'll keep visiting here for the discussion. I've learned a lot here, and hope to keep that up.

The girlfriend is completely anonymous, so the illness isn't being attributed slanderously to some specific person. And this board features discussions on topics far, FAR wider ranging than just escorts and their recommendations; the depth of the community is part of its attraction. The original post just expresses one board member's state of mind at one moment in time, and why he feels he's at that point. Maybe he's wrong about his ex. Maybe the whole story is completely invented -- we don't know. But I'm inclined to take the man at his word, and just express some sympathy for his unhappiness and for the situation he describes. I don't see the harm in just throwing the guy some support. If the claim of mental illness is a sore point, just a "hey, are you sure about that?" and measured follow-up would probably do. Just sayin'. That way everyone gets to play.

Yeah, although I spend a lot of my time working in that industry, I'm quite behind the times -- I have a simple cell phone I don't use much, just keep for emergencies (and hobby stuff). Although it's a bit of a mixed message since the product is itself a phone o/s, I liked this commercial on the "unplug" theme a lot when it came out: Really? Really do know some people like that.

These things never leave us. The memory of the relationship while it lasted, the misery of its slow death, and whatever meaning you've managed to draw from both of those afterward are with you forever. "Moving on" doesn't mean forgetting past or that it has lost all of its power. It just means reaching a point where, despite those, you can engage with the world again and start something new. Feeling grim after an encounter like that is perfectly normal. A good night's sleep often helps. Good on ya, though, for expressing something here and not just keeping it inside your own head. Sympathies. And good luck.

It's a manufactured event, since the monarchy is almost irrelevant to us, and even in the UK itself. To their credit, the young Windsors seem to acknowledge that; they're living their lives within the confines of their inherited civic duty, but otherwise don't seem to take their position more seriously than is necessary. (I'm thinking of Edward asking to be made Earl of Wessex after watching Colin Firth as the villainous buffoon of that name in Shakespeare in Love.) I'm torn on this one. On the one hand I recognize the superficiality of the monarchy, dangling like a pointless appendix from our modern structure of government. On the other hand, I respect the potential role of old traditions in countering the "Buy this month's flavour!" consumer culture we live in. Once these ancient and seemingly useless things are gone, what's left that can speak to us with more authority than a television commercial?

Yeah, that's really horrible. Gives you good insight into his mind, though, that trying to score reputation with his buddy was more important to him than treating you with discretion and respect. I wouldn't be surprised if he's made that same dumb kind of mistake many times in his life, been deemed a jerk by those who recognized what he was doing, and lost a long line of what could have been valuable friends as a result. Cutting him off is fitting punishment.

I record the show on my PVR and often watch at least the opening monologue the next evening. A bit hit or miss, but mostly hit. :) On the other hand, The Daily Show and Colbert Report are mandatory viewing each night.

I completely agree. Both parties are taking some risk, particularly in the case of clients with unwitting partners. I don't see anyone generalizing about SPs or declaring that risks are common; just that the risks exist to some degree, and are a legitimate factor in client's decisions. I'm sure the likelihood of betrayal by an SP is exceedingly tiny, and pretty much nil for anyone here. But the damage inflicted by such a betrayal would be astronomical for some clients. Risk = [likelihood]x[associated cost]. I think the second part of that equation is the bit that concerned clients are focused on, and it's considerable for them. Let's respect that. Doing so doesn't belittle the very real risks incurred by SPs all the time.

I think the simplest answer for both cases is: a lack of immediately available, disposable cash. So, a search for alternatives.

I got my first dog in the mid-90s. She was a cast-off from someone I knew who didn't want her ("she's too willful and mischievous" said the person obsessed with obedience). I had always liked the dog and was happy to take her into my home. She kept me good company, to her credit sometimes being willful and mischievous, until she developed heart problems and finally had to be put down in 2002. Choosing death for her (let's be honest about it) was one of the hardest decisions of my life, but luckily there was nothing ambiguous about it: she'd taken a sudden turn for the dramatically worse, there was nothing the vets could really do to improve her condition (though they could have kept her lingering if directed), and she was miserable. I made the necessary decision -- an unwelcome one, but no regrets under the circumstances. I think the need to arrange and manage her care, and then the responsibility of making the final decision, protected me from some of the worst of the emotional impact at the time. But then it really hit me when I went back a week later to collect her ashes from the same vet's office, and stood in the waiting room amongst all the other living dogs waiting for attention, where I had sat with her so many times over the preceding year. I barely hung on long enough to take the box from the assistant, retreated hastily to my car, and lost it completely. I waited several years before getting another dog, and this time I got my two sibling puppies, just eight weeks old. My one regret with my first dog was that she was alone through the day while I worked; as I mentioned in my earlier post, getting two helps with that. I got them in the summer of 2008, so they're 2-1/2 years old now. It's been my first time raising dogs from puppies, so it's required lots of patient training and close attention. It's been a great experience. Wouldn't trade it for the world. I'm always mindful that they probably have around 12 years left to them. I try to make sure they and I enjoy our time together as much as possible while it lasts! Happily, a decade is a nice long time to look forward to.

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Dolly is convinced that Samantha did a great job in administration. But she thinks her job in a school where she is an "authority figure" should be discouraged from making porn movies. "If she had worked in a college, to adults or university, it would be less shocking," she said. But since it is young and most have little con dence in them, I imagine that upon hearing the guys at school who just talk about it, The little girls will perhaps say, the only way that men find us attractive is that is the secretaries sluts with big balls. " However, Dolly says he experienced a similar situation to that of Samantha Burning last year, while she was being chemistry and physics with minors in Secondary V Center for Adult Education of the Boatmen, Lévis . After learning she was doing porn movies, management suspended him three days time "to assess his record," she recalls. Dolly was defended by saying she had always been discreet about it and she never encouraged young people to make pornography. The school board does not comment Browsers case. But Dolly said that management did not go further. "They told me I parted it right. The school is school, privacy, that's life private. " Not unique Samantha Burning is probably the best known, but it is far from being the only actress Quebec XXX movies to live a double life - and having to draw a line between what it is everyday and that anyone can see her naked on the Internet. After the media coverage of his story, some might have expected a wave of panic among fellows porn. But Pegas Productions, which produced the box movies of Samantha, the opposite happened. The owner, Nicolas Lafleur, said that in the last two weeks, he has never received so many applications from amateurs. You should know that about 60% of players who play in Pegas Productions films are Mr. and Mrs. All-the-world who earn their living with a job that has nothing to do with the sex industry, says M . Lafleur. "I remember several years ago, girls who did it wanted to do porn careers and were in the sex industry at 100% or wanted to be," he said. But it made the motivations are more "I want to live an experience, I am beautiful, I'm a little exhibitionist, I enjoy it while it happens." "It is becoming more democratized," he says. We're heading for a change of mentality and customs. We leave the underground scene. " Dolly Princess said she started in porn to explore their sexuality and for the thrill, "strong emotions". "I was 18? Years and had not been a very eventful sex life, she says. The little guy with whom I had slept, was not famous. "She googled porn and Quebec and has contacted Pegas Productions. In three years, Dolly has made a dozen films and has no intention of stopping. She said that beginning, she knew the risks of being recognized. "I do not think it would remain in the dark all my life, one day my family would eventually know and my friends too." She has not had time to make a film that her parents had already read his first contract, she had forgotten on the coffee table family. "My parents, they're very open-minded people. But they did not want me to fall into drugs and I quit school, "she said. "We had a very serious discussion. For them, no matter what I do, the important thing is that I'm happy. " Face Yannick He is 33 and he does not care that we write his name or his name porn actor, "All in" (like poker). He works as a busboy in a bar and takes care of housekeeping in a church, but would like to make a career in porn. "I'll always have a job like this," he said, because like it or not, you do not contract when you want and it's not up to you when you turn and when you make a payroll, so t ' have no choice but to have something more stable in the meantime. " Yannick displayed openly as porn actor. From his first film, he wrote on his Facebook page. And to make it clear in his family, he was accompanied by a porn actress to the marriage of her aunt. "Are those who will try to hide it," he said. But me, my family knows I've always been a guy a little rock and roll and party and they know I'm a ladies man. There may be just my mother who does not like it when I talk. But then, all of Quebec is aware, then it as no choice. " In love, cons, Yannick has trouble finding a girlfriend who is willing to see him copulate with other girls. "Y is that it excites and there it was nauseated," he said. But it's one of those that could become sickens my wife. "

Dogs all the way! I have two, which I got as brother and sister from the same litter (so they've known each other from the womb forward!). They're awesome companions to me and I love them dearly. Plus, being a pair, they keep each other company when I'm at work. I'm happily childfree, and these two are my kid-equivalents.