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The human toll of criminalizing the escort industry
VedaSloan replied to a topic in Legal discussion, cases & questions
It really digsusts me how the police treat street workers and even how they're viewed by society. Prostitution isn't the problem, poverty is the problem. That being said, decriminalizing prostitution is ESSENTIAL to protecting and promoting human rights. Criminalizing sex workers just reinforces the stigma we already face. Being on the margins of society puts us at risk for more harm. Canadian law must treat sex workers as people and as workers. We should have the full benefit and protection of the law. The law should not put me at greater risk. For example, the following are crimes when committed AGAINST ANYONE, including sex workers: -assault -criminal negligence causing bodily harm -criminal harassment -torture -forcible confinement and kidnapping -extortion and fraud. These sections should be used against anyone who exploits a sex worker physically, psychologically or economically, or who is violent or threatens violence towards a sex worker. Sex workers, whose work is legal under Canadian law, should also benefit from laws regarding: -employment standards -occupational health and safety -workers' compensation -union rights and organization -employment insurance -public pensions There is growing evidence that the Criminal Code sections increase the risk of violence against sex workers and other threats to their health and safety, as described by sex workers themselves and as documented by researchers. Sex workers are harmed by the various ways in which our work is criminalized and these harms outweigh any small benefits to be gained by others. Pros are people too, with feelings and emotions. I say this especially with street workers in mind. The cops treat them as less than human, as does society. So how does criminalizing sex work increase our risk and harm? It reinforces the attitude that sex workers "deserve what they get" when they get beaten up or murdered. It makes prostitution part of an illegal market and pushes people involved in prostitution and other illegal activities, such as the drug scene, together. It creates an environment in which brutal forms of exploitation of sex workers can take root. It creates a relationship of conflict between sex workers and the police. Police may not take sex workers seriously when they report crimes and concerns because of the work they do. Because of this, because of police harassment and violence and because they fear arrest, sex workers often don't or can't turn to the police for help if they need it. It means sex workers often have to work more to pay off fines if they are charged and convicted and makes it difficult for sex workers to get other kinds of work because they have a criminal record. (most of this came from a handy publication put out by the Canadian HIV/AIDs Legal Network, entitled Sex, Work, Rights). -
arousal and attraction
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Well I was thinking more from an escorting point of view. For those guys who would need to get it up. I spoke to a friend today who is a gay male escort and he said he can usually tell based on how a guy writes to him whether he is a top/bottom/versatile. If he doesn't think that he would be a good fit (ie, he doesn't think he could get it up for the guy) then he'll say that he doesn't think they'd be a good fit and recommend a friend who might suit the client better. But your attraction does have an affect on your ability to get it up. If you aren't attracted, you have to use other means, like mags, or cock rings or a really good imagination. Whereas, I don't need any of that. I can makeout with any guy, and get wet, regardless of how I feel about them. I was just curious to hear about the biz from a males point of view, since male escorting is a completely different world. In terms of gay male interactions, there may not even be any penetration depending on the clients preference and whether they are a top/bottom/versatile. Whereas, on the whole, (hahaha) there is always penetration for me. -
Personally, I detest spelling and grammar errors. English not being your first language excluded. I personally detest it even more when I get emails from people (not so much work), that are simply bastardized versions of the English language. People seem to forget that when you email someone that you'd potentially like to meet, your email is their first impression of you. So if you write to me like a bonehead, I'll assume you are one and delete you without replying. I think shortforms are just lazy and only allow ignorance to proliferate.
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I'm working on a presentation for Thursday and I am trying to represent the diversity of experience within the sex industry, and in terms of arousal and attraction, if there are any male escorts, or T girls on the boards, perhaps they can answer my question. If you have a client who are absolutely not attracted to, can you still achieve an erection? If you cannot, do you use any drugs (viagra, cialis) to help you achieve an erection? My feeling, from the few guys I've spoken to thus far, is that for men, their arousal is very much tied to their attraction. Whereas, for me, at least, my parts can work independent of my brain. I can be not attracted, but if you are stimulating me, I will still get turned on, I will still get wet, etc. My arousal is not directly tied to how attracted I am to a person.
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Question for SP's
VedaSloan replied to Athana dos Santos's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I do incalls mostly, but when I am working with the agency, they use a driving service. In the past, when I have done my own outcalls, I just take a cab. -
POWER (Prostitutes of Ottawa/Gatineau Work, Educate, Resist) needs you! We are conducting a needs assessment over the months of March and April which consists of approximately 50-70 interviews with area sex workers, female, male, transexual, from any sector. We need interview participants from Ottawa only for a 30-40 minute interview, which can be done over the phone, or in person. While we cannot pay you, we do have a $20 gift card as a way of saying thanks. We have two days set up for drop-in interviews, March 21 and March 28. If you prefer to do it over the phone, I will match you with an interviewer based on your availability. This information will allow POWER to better advocate for your needs. I am the research co-ordinator for this project, so please PM me for details. As well, tell your friends! We need all the participants we can get. Thanks much! PS Everything is anonymous, your name will never be used or even asked for. I am in charge of all the data that comes in and it will be on a password protected jump drive kept in a locked drawer at the ACO.
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Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I wish! I sincerely doubt it however, considering she's all about how awesome she is and how she can get another dude in minute. Lil Wayne did a song called Comfortable which is about Beyonce's song (the one with To the Left, To the left in it), which is all about how she ain't all that and don't get too comfortable. -
Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Girl, I am so with you on Amanda Palmer. I love that woman. -
Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Hahah, Beyonce! I kind of want to fight her. A couple of her songs just make me want to punch her in the face. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) comes to mind. -
Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Haha, I was going to say Inaluki, I didn't know you played for both teams! -
Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Yeah, I shoulda put PJ in my list, along with Fiona, but my list would end up being ridiculously long. Like you, I went with what I was feeling at the time I posted. -
Who's in your top five?
VedaSloan replied to VedaSloan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I think my list needs to be longer, how could I forget about Vincent D'Onofrio. I have had so many interrogation fantasies involving him. Yummm -
So you're probably thinking that I'm going to ask you who your favourite five SP's are, BUT I'M NOT. I want to know who your top five celeb/musician/semi-famous fucks are, you know, the ones that you can sleep with and your SO can't say anything about it. Here are mine: 1. Johnny Depp (he is always number one) 2. Monica Bellucci 3. Roger Huerta (a lightweight UFC fighter) 4. Tony Trujillo (a pro skateboarder) 5. Christopher Walken (I just think it would be so fucked up, but so awesome at the same time)
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I have not seen them live, sadly. It's on my list of things to get done before I die (which is constantly growing). Ha, I have just spawned an idea for a new thread, which you'll see posted shortly. Haha.
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Good thread Dummpy! My funny stories are usually related to me getting cum in the eye. But I did have a guy steal my panties once. He wanted to wear them and so I let him, but I am pretty sure he kept them on under his boxers when he left. He could have just asked if he wanted them that badly. Things I'd like to try (but a few not necessarily with clients): Gangbang. I tried to get one of these organized before I went to Europe last October, but scheduling was a nightmare. Fisting. I enjoy the idea of feeling completely full. This is not one to try with clients, lol. Strap-on. I am in the market for one of the harness free ones (like the feeldoe) and I would totally love to fuck a sexy man's ass. Or woman!
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Who was your first SP?
VedaSloan replied to Apex2006's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
My first official client was a guy I had already slept with for free, but I told him I didn't want to sleep with him anymore and he asked if he could pay me. My first CERB client was ulixestrojan. True story. He wrote my first review also. He's a fabulous gent and I consider him a friend. -
Roll up the rim to win WHAT!
VedaSloan replied to Apex2006's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I haven't been to Timmy Ho's in YEARS and then I had to meet a friend there the other day and so I got myself a french vanilla cappucino and won a coffee. I don't even drink coffee! So, the next person to PM me booking an appointment can have my free coffee! -
Sp's - I'm curious about the business side.
VedaSloan replied to d0thedoo's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
What are your typical legal costs per year? What are your typical medical costs per year? What frequency and types of testing do you do? I have no legal costs, as I have never had problems with the law, or needed a lawyer. My medical costs are also quite low, as STD testing is free. I get tested every two months and I cover ALL STD's and HIV. What?s the advantage of working for an agency over being an independent? The advantage is that you do not have to worry about scheduling or any discussion of services (this particularly irks me, it's no fun when things are talked about like an itemized bill). As well, you have a driver and there are security measures in place. The downside is that the agency takes a cut of your money and you are forced to charge for "extras" (anything beyond one shot) in order to make up the money you lost to the agency. Are drivers also security? I assume they don?t sit in their car and wait, but rather leave to drop off/pick up other women then come back at the determined time? Are drivers paid by the agency (and how much), or strictly by tips? The driver will stay if you ask him too (but usually you have to give him a tip, 5-10 bucks). The driver is paid by the agency. Do agencies tend to have a physical location, or is it typically the individual SP working out of their home? Some agencies have an incall location (which would be considered illegal), but most agencies do outcalls (ie the girl goes to the client's home). How many clients a night do you typically meet? How many hours a week do you tend to work? How much do you walk away with after the agency and everyone gets paid. Through the agency, I typically get 1-2 clients a night (the minimum shift is six hours). I generally work four evenings a week and can make anywhere from $400-900 a week. I also work independently and add another $500-1000 to that per week. Please note however, that I am a very low volume pro and work only part-time. Is there a lot of competition between agencies and are they often linked with organized crime? There is some competition between agencies. I have heard of other agencies calling their competition and sending girls on bogus calls. -
Sp's - I'm curious about the business side.
VedaSloan replied to d0thedoo's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Most of this has already been covered by other posters, but since I'm actually giving two lectures on this particular subject, I'll chime in. In the Criminal Code of Canada (CCC) the following sections pertain to prostitution specifically: section 210 outlaws what are called "common bawdy houses." section 211 makes it illegal to take or direct a person to a bawdy-house. section 212 prohibits "procuring" prostitution or "living on the avails" of prostitution. section 213 outlaws "communicating for the purpose of prostitution." So what does this actually mean? It means that while exchanging money for sex is legal, the CCC creates a web of offenses which make it almost impossible to work legally in this profession. Section 210, the bawdy house laws: It is illegal to work in, keep or to even just be in a bawdy house. Anyone found by police in a common bawdy house, whether they are a sex worker, another employee, or a client, can be arrested and charged. This particular law forces sex workers to make a difficult choice. If a sex worker wants to work indoors and in a place where they have more control over their own safety, they risk being charged under the bawdy-house law. So what is a bawdy house? This law dates back to 1892, when a bawd was another term for a woman who ran a brothel. But under the law, bawdy houses are more than just brothels: a common bawdy house under the law, is ANY place that someone keeps or occupies for the puprose of prostitution (or for "the practice of acts of indecency"). Even if this is not its primary purpose, if it is used on a regular basis for prositution then it can be considered an illegal bawdy house. So, a brothel, your home, hotels, massage or body-rub parlours are all illegal under the law. Clients' homes are legal as long as the place is not used frequently or regularly for prostitution. Parking lots and cars can also be found to be a common bawdy house if it is used regularly for prostitution. Anyone who breaks this law may get a fine of up to $2000 or up to six months in jail, or both. Keeping a bawdy house carries a maximum sentence of up to two years in jail. If someone is convicted of keeping a bawdy house, the law states the the owner, landlord or tenant of that property must be notified and if s/he does not evict the worker and the sex worker is later convicted again for using the same property, the landlord or owner can be convicted of keeping a bawdy house. Section 212 makes it illegal to talk a person into engaging in prostitution, or to talk a person into purchasing sexual services (you can't make referrals either). It is also illegal to profit off the prostitution of someone else. So what does this mean? It means that anyone who regularly spends time or lives with a sex worker is assumed to be living on the avails of prostitution. It is illegal for a sex worker to refer a client to another sex worker, it is also illegal for clients to refer sex workers to friends. It is also illegal for a sex worker to invite another sex worker to join. In the Downey case of 1992, the Supreme Court of Canada said that 'living on the avails' offence should be used only against a person who lives "parasitically" off a sex workers earnings. By this, the court means someone the sex worker has no legal or moral obligation to support (ie pimps). As we all know it is illegal communicate for the purpose of prostitution in public (213), so what constitutes public? A "public place" includes the street, parks, bars and even inside cars. Sex workers (usually women) receive much harsher penalties than clients (usually men) do when they are convicted under the communicating section. According to Stats Canada, women: -get sentenced to prison more often than men; -get longer prison sentences than men; -do not get probation as often as men; -if they do get probation, usually get twice as long; and -are not offered diversion programs such as "john school" nearly often as men. Other laws which are not directly related to prostitution, but which cops often used against sex workers: Section 173: indecent acts in a public place Section 89-90: carrying a weapon Section 403: identifying oneself with a name other than one's own Section 139: obstruction of justice Section 129: interfering with the work of a police officer. I hope that helps! Basically, if you are a discreet with your ads and screen your clientele and do not work out of your home, you are pretty safe from the law. Generally, police bust street workers more often because they are the most visible group of sex workers. -
Hahaha, Brandi, I love it. I always steal the Patton Oswalt bit, and tell people that I absorbed a twin in the womb. He talks too much when I drink, and people get freaked out, so this is a layer of courtesy fat. Hahaha.
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Cirque du Soleil knows their shit. Some of the things they do blow my mind. Particularly when they hold themselves horizontally out from the pole.
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I am practically still a noob. Just under two years here.