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I agree completely. At least under the old laws disabled individuals and others were free to see outcall escorts legally. Now even this may be taken away, leaving them no option but to "break the law" in order to have a degree of intimacy in their lives. The whole situation is going to hell in a hand basket very quickly. Yes, the old system was not perfect and had legitimate flaws. However, for anyone to think that a legal challenge would result in better conditions for this industry under Harper's rule is deluding themselves. Canada still espouses remnants of the Victorian era when it comes to sexuality, and there are no greater champions of this than the Tories and abolitionists. In hindsight, it may have been better to live with the old laws, and wait for a more liberal climate to evolve before railing against the status quo.

This just illustrates the nonsensical nature of what the Cons are proposing. In light of the recent SCC ruling, brothels will be legal. So, if the cops arrest clients at brothels, they will be arresting them for purchasing a legal 'product'. This would be a big part of a constitutional challenge in the sense that it would be akin to the police arresting someone for purchasing an apple at the grocery store. Both sex and an apple are 'legal goods' for sale. The only difference is the flawed Tory argument that sex can't be purchased because doing so is 'immoral', 'wrong', 'bad' ad infinitum, ad nauseum, which in itself is a value judgement which will not stand up in a court of law.

I agree with what you're saying. However, let's look at it from the perspective of a client who opts for outcalls exclusively. Under the current law it is 100% legal. If the Noric model is implemented, that will change. Therefore, (pragmatically speaking) the risk of being charged exists, and if someone is charged, then the damage to their reputation and possibly their employment is already done, regardless of whether the case is eventually dismissed or whether the laws are again challenged and thrown out. That's what I'm most worried about.

Yes, but then again, who in their right mind would have ever voted for the Conservatives to begin with?

So, would the SCC have the power to veto a Nordic style law? The reason I ask is that the last time the law was changed in 1990, it passed even though it contained the 'living off the avails' clause and the 'bawdy house' clause etc. If I recall correctly, some justices in the SCC even remarked that it 'was a stupid law' or something to that effect.

If a Nordic approach is introduced in Canada, how far do you believe LE will go in pursuit of hobbyists? Will Cerb become a "no go" zone? What about setting up appointments? Will we have to go the route of exchanging private numbers for fear of wiretaps? I know that sounds like a bit much, but with the Orwellian regime we now seem to be living in, I'm not so sure anymore - I guess I'd be waiting for the cops to bust down my door lol...

Try telling that to Stephen and Joy... Additional Comments: According to a Halifax newspaper article, Justice Minister Peter Mackay stated that he fully intends to introduce a Canadian version of the Nordic Model, which will abide by the SCC's ruling.

I'm really worried about how this will affect our industry and community. The threat of fines and/or jail time will be a great deterrent to many hobbyists, and thereby drive the industry even further underground and into the shadows. This cannot bode well for Sps and hobbyists alike.

While a part of me still believes the new legislation will be Nordic in some way shape or form, (This IS the Conservative Government, after all *lol*) I'm still not clear how it can be implemented in practice. For instance, if it becomes legal for ladies to operate 'bawdy houses', yet illegal for a client to purchase said services, how would that work? Will clients be arrested as they pay? Seriously... what a conundrum!

Yes, but could this not again be challenged in the courts? After all, the laws were struck down since they infringed on 'the safety of the person'. If I'm correct in my assumption, any new legislation needs to address the spirit of the ruling by making it safer for workers to ply their trade, so to speak. Making prostitution illegal will only make it more dangerous for women, thus railing against what the court had intended.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. My guess is the legislation will be either: A) Some version of the Nordic approach, which will have the effect of criminalizing the client or B) Making prostitution illegal in Canada for the first time ever

I just saw her again tonight... can't wait until next time!

Sometimes cutting back a bit has the advantage of giving you something to look forward to - e.g. (a special treat seeing your favorite lady). I've found that if you see too many ladies in too short a span, the encounters become less fulfilling. Therefore, in my view, it's better if you pace yourself and spread out your encounters over a longer period of time.

I just saw her again tonight... she's awesome! I posted a recommendation awhile back as well.

Does she have an ad?

Unfortunately, Bieber is heading toward a downward spiral and without some type of intervention he will continue to do so. While there has been quite the backlash against him on social media, I feel sorry for him to an extent. After all, who among us hasn't done something wild and crazy that we regret during our teenage years? The problem with Bieber is that his celebrity and subsequent power has exacerbated the situation to the extreme. To put it in perspective, imagine that when we were 19, we were international superstars with a net worth of 130 million dollars, with a bunch of unsavory hangers on, enablers and yes people telling us what we want to hear... see how normal we act... No one is willing to step up to the plate and say "No" to Justin. It's no wonder he thinks he's invincible. Then you have a situation like the other day, where a car rental company gave him a free Lamborghini to drive around in, with his 38 year old father helping to block off the road so his son could drag race... and well, what did you expect? I'd say the first step would be for his parents to get their act together, team up with his manager and perhaps someone like Usher and stage an intervention. It's unfortunate that Bieber became famous at such a young age, since by virtue of that fact, he just didn't have the emotional maturity to handle it.

Same here.

I feel that were prostitution to be criminalized by the Conservatives, the new law could be successfully challenged in the SCC. Let's not forget, the reason why the old laws were overturned in the first place was that they impacted the safety of the persons engaged in the act, namely sex workers. The SCC decided that safety of the person trumps any public nuisance issues that may arise, as they can be effectively dealt with through other means. As well, the court does not seem to have much appetite for arguments based on social morality. Therefore, by making prostitution illegal in all it's forms, the government would be increasing potential harms to its participants exponentially - something which rails against the spirit of the original ruling. Let's face it, criminalizing an act that has never been illegal in Canada will be viewed as a reactionary measure at best, with no intrinsic merit. Additional Comments: The Conservatives will likely ask for an extension if it comes down to it. I highly doubt they will sit idly by and watch the laws get struck off the books - in their words, 'Canada would then be left in a moral vacuum' *lol* As it stands now, Parliament has less than a year to come up with something... tick, tick, tick...

Hard to say... Justice Minister Peter Mackay was interviewed this evening on CTV News in Halifax, and when asked about the Government's intentions to address the SCC ruling on prostitution, he said "(The Conservatives) are looking at the Nordic Model, and will legislate in this area."

If it's true that the SCC has told Parliament that watered down versions of the old laws won't fly, then by default, wouldn't the Nordic approach be a 'no go' as well? Really, it's just a reworking of what we had. Instead of prostitution being legal but everything around it being criminalized, we would have a situation where it's legal to sell, yet illegal to buy. Nonsensical to the extreme, it also would do nothing to eliminate the inherent risks to a lady's safety working in the trade.

Your point about honesty is interesting... I was in a relationship a couple of years ago in which my GF admitted that she was a former escort. Now, being liberal, I did not pass any judgement whatsoever while accepting and being completely at peace with her revelation. Then, in the spirit of keeping everything above board, I admitted to being a hobbyist, albeit only when I'm single. I thought if anyone would understand, it would be her. Well, imagine my surprise when she gave me the third degree and kept going on about how immoral, depraved, disgusting etc. etc. etc. my behavior was. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!! It turned out to be a blessing in disguise, since it spelled the end of our relationship. Looking back, we really weren't compatible.

If the Conservatives do attempt to criminalize the purchase of sex, how will this affect the average hobbyist? Will the laws actually be enforceable, or for that matter enforced at all? I've always liked the fact that although current prostitution laws are flawed, outcalls are legal, which happen to be my preference. If things change, well... let's just say I wouldn't want to find myself on the wrong side of the law, so to speak - in terms of any fallout, be it publicity, detrimental effects on my career etc..

I had the pleasure of spending some quality time with Colette recently. I feel like I hit the jackpot in meeting her. Brand new to the business, she is a diamond in the rough... all natural, absolutely stunning girl next door, articulate, sensual, erotic, are just some of the words I would use to describe her... the session flowed so naturally and smoothly that I felt like I was back with my ex-girlfriend again... time just melted away as I held her in my arms. It was definitely one of the most memorable sessions I've had in awhile. I'm already counting the days until I can book her again! I'm hoping Colette stays in the industry for awhile, because she has become my SP of choice for the foreseeable future - thanks again for a wonderful evening. :) Treat her with respect, guys - you'll be handsomely rewarded!

I had the pleasure of spending some quality time with her... a review will be posted shortly!

I agree that keeping sex workers free from harm is of paramount importance. However, if the current laws are indeed replaced with the Nordic model, or some variation thereof, then not much will have changed in terms of safety since the industry will still be relegated to the shadows. This begs the question " would the Nordic model be challenged and struck down?" If so, how long would the process take before equitable, well thought out laws take their place? I fear we are going back to the dark ages with both the clients and the ladies suffering the fallout. Additional Comments: I'm not holding my breath on that one...