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The problem with what you wrote here can be summed up in Mark Twain's words that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Yes, over 50% of the SP's "who responded" said they felt pressure. However only 30 SPs have responded to date. Is that a representative sample, or are most of the respondents just those who do not want to offer BBBJ? The trouble with this thread and the other on the topic, is that people are trying to use "statistics", and statements that imply they are being coerced, to win their point. If an SP does not want to offer BBBJ, then that is their choice. The fact that another offers it should not concern them. Read that again! It is none of their business. I have seen people argue on these threads that it is their business because another SP offering that service puts them at risk if they see the same clients. Well that would only be true if every client only had sexual encounters with "sex-workers". I can't recall ever getting a CBJ from a "civillian". So that shoots down that argument. The only way you would ever be truly safe is if everyone in the world only did oral covered. Again, whether a sex-worker offers a CBJ or a BBBJ, or DATY (covered or uncovered), or DATO, or Greek, or DFK or Mild BDSM, it is their own business and should not be debated here, or anywhere else, by other sex-workers or clients. Some sex-workers on here are saying they feel coerced to give BBBJ, but I would argue that this whole debate could be seen as an attempt to coerce or use the "court of public opinion" to get those who do offer BBBJ to change their service. That could be for safety reasons, but I could also imply it is to reduce what some may think is the competitive edge given to those who offer it. However, reading these threads and seeing the results of the poll you could draw the conclusion that it really doesn't matter one way or the other. Again, the decision to do a BJ covered or uncovered is up to the provider in question. It has no bearing on any other provider. You make your decisions based on what you feel is correct and guide yourself accordingly. What anyone else does is really none of your business.

Two factors the first being physical. If there is a lot of build up, teasing, and maybe even holding back one or two times, then when I finally cum, it tends to be more intense. The other is the level of intimacy of the person I am with. If I really click with the person I am with, if we are totally in synch, then the orgasms tend to be really intense. If the two of us are cumming at the same time, even moreso. Of course it is the situation that plays the biggest role, and surprisingly I may not have to be having actual sex with the person that is the stimulus. I do recall one time in a group session when this happened. I was actually having sex with one person. I was paying attention to her, and of course all that was going on around me. Another lady, and frequent partner, who I am very compatible with, and with who I have shared some incredible intimate moments, was having sex almost right beside us. I looked over and she was enjoying herself, but was also looking at what I was doing with my partner of the moment. Our eyes locked, and the look on her face, let me know she was turned on by what was happening. It was a sharing of an intimate moment by just a glance. It sent me right over the edge into an incredibly intense orgasm, that I could not hold back. It was incredibly hot. I was turned on and excited by the person I was actually having sex with, but the sharing of that glance with the second person just made it that more memorable and intense.

Actually if it is a true thai testicle massage, it is actually more therapeutic than erotic. Don't look it up in the Urban Dictionary, Google it. There are lots of links particularly from people who practice it.

Here we go again, the perennial question of RMT's that give extras. As has been said repeatedly on this board: No RMT would risk their license or designation by giving happy endings. Not to say that it never happened, but it would be so far on the down-low that the parties involved would not talk about it. On top of that, nobody with an ounce of common sense would post the RMT's name or share it on a board like this one. There are some spas that have "other designations" other than RMT, like "ortho-therapy" etc, that may be accepted by some insurance plans, and where you may find a happy ending. But good luck if the insurance company ever found out, unless you like being charged with fraud. But then maybe the thought of those prison showers is one of your fantasies.

Referral from a Doctor.

And you think she would? Did you not read the part about being discrete, and then you randomly e-mail? She has no idea if you are legitimate or are LE. She doesn't advertise services like that because she wants to stay discrete. If she posted an ad, then sure contact her by e-mail or phone. If you are told she is staying under the radar, then go see her. Geez, some people's children.

Ummm I think that is what I said. It is legal except in cases of what is termed as exploitation. I explicitly said "does not pay them".

It all depends on what the ads say. Escorts advertise that they are charging for their time and companionship because that is legal. They don't directly offer sexual services, as that is soliciting for the purposes of prostitution. So yes, an ad can be soliciting if it mentions sexual services. On a board like this I don't think their is much of an issue, even though an argument could be made that it is soliciting. But I don't think you will ever see anybody advertising BBBJ, FS, CIM in the Sun. ;)

I need my head read to comment on this, but hell, somedays I just need help. Just to be clear I am not condoning the behaviour of the men, and I don't want to debate that point. First off the way I read the OP's message, was not so much to watch out they are busting pedo's, but that LE was using BP etc to run a sting. In this case they were after people paying for sex with someone under 18, but his final comment warns people to make sure that the person you are talking to is 18. I think the fear was that they are using escort ads as bait to catch people. The ads didn't say "16 Year old", that was only revealed in communications later. And yes, they should have walked away. In this case the sting was underage girls, but it could just as easily have been anything else considered illegal. Whether or not that is plausible is another matter, but I think he thought it was and was warning folks who use BP etc. He was a bit ham-fisted about it, but I don't think he was condoning seeing 16 year old escorts. The second issue is the age of consent debate. The age of consent in this country is 16. (it was only just raised from 14). That means, any personal moral issues aside, any person 16 years of age or older can have sex with anyone else regardless of the age. There are certain exceptions that all fall under the category of "exploitation". Despite peoples feelings on the issue, a 50 year old can sleep with a 16 year old legally, with no problems, provided the 50 year old does not hold a position of authority, is not using coercion, or does not pay them. That is the law plain and simple. Those acts are all listed as exploitation. So be aware that in this law the government classes "prostitution" as exploitation. I think there are many people on this board who would have issue with that if that generalization was applied to anyone over the age of 18. As for the luring. If these guys were meeting these girls in Justin Bieber fan-girl sites, or some other place, deliberately targetting them, then yeah I would say they were luring. But in this case they answered an ad, placed in an escort forum, where the advertisers are all supposed to be over 18. Their crime was too continue to talk after finding out the ad was allegedly for a 16 year old. Again, I don't condone the behaviour. I personally think the guys should have ran or reported the ad when it came out the "bait" was only 16 years old.

Quite seriously, if for some reason you (or your friend, wink, wink) are unwilling to go to see your family doctor, then there are plenty of clinics you can use fairly anonymously. I know for a fact that if you go to Appletree, they have certain Doctors they will refer you to in their clinics for these problems.. If you are over a certain age, and are healthy, they have no problem giving you a prescription, and maybe even a couple of samples to get you going. If you feel you need it, they don't judge, and are more then willing to help.

Wow! What a lot of hard-asses. I am generally described as being just to the right of Ghengis Khan in matters of business, and advertising, however, I think that banishment is being unduly harsh in this case. I have no patience or tolerance for B&S, lies etc on ads. However, she was new, didn't know better and appears to have learned her lesson. At best, we let her back in, and she is a model citizen. At worst, she screws up again and her ass gets banned for ever. This has been so public now, most people will be taking anything she says with a grain of salt.

A sperm whale, a three foot long tongue and I could breathe through a hole in the back of my head. :Cunning:

I am surprised at the reaction to this. If you forget the fact the lady is an SP, it is a typical Sugar Daddy situation. Nothing strange about the arrangement, and actually quite common.

1. There are hundreds of people handing out cards and pamphlets for Outcall escorts in Vegas. Most of them are scams, B&S etc. If you really can't contro,l the urge, find a high end place and contact through phone. Not sure how you would do that , but avoid the street advertising. 2. Contrary to popular belief, prostitution of all forms is illegal in Las Vegas (Clark county) and they enforce those laws vigorously. So be very careful or you will be heading off to the very imposing Clark County Jail. 3. Either spend a few hours to drive out to one of the places where it is legal (Pahrump etc) or find something else to do there other than hobby.

Doing legitimate investigation is not the issue. That means you did the legwork and used legal means to find out information. You may feel a bit conflicted but you should have known that going into this line of work. If on the other hand, as the OP implies, you got this information illegally by hacking a computer, or by breaking and entering, or any other means; then why bother asking for advice? You have already made up your mind to make a living being a law-breaker. The word scum-bag springs to mind, but since we must behave nicely around here I won't apply it to you, but you would be a criminal, which is accurate.

I also am more concerned on how you got this information. Intercepting someone's e-mail, (which is what you seem to have implied) is, if not illegal, certainly questionable. It could result in civil action, if not criminal. The fact it was a sister-in-law, who to me is more of a third-party than someone directly involved, makes it even more questionable. Return the money, declaring a conflict or personal connection, and walk away.

But it is not optimal for hobbiests who may have a joint account. The transaction shows up on the bank statement, and some of our payees have e-mail names that will stand out like a red flag.

Chicken, spatchcocked and roast with lemon and olive oil, parsnip puree, and kale braised with pork belly, shallots, garlic and a bit of chicken broth. All cooked to the Top 80 Videos of the 80's on MuchMoreMusic. "She's my uptown girl...." or "Don't push me, cause I'm close to the edge...." Music makes everything work well.

I will say it is sooo wrong, but typical of certain segments of the American culture. And don't get me wrong, I often work in the US and have a lot of American friends. The people who upload to this site are out to hold a grudge. I went through the browse function to see who is listed and I made the following observations. 1. Most of the women work in certain localities such as Ft Myers Fla, Hudson New York, Huntsville Alabama 2. All of the Ft Myers women's pics look like they are from Mugshots. They all have the same lighting and background. I think someone seeded the database with people from an LE database. 3. Hudson, New York is a small little town, but if you search on New York, the only names that come up are from Hudson. Over 10 pages or about 70 women. My conclusion, is that their submission system was fucked up, and it puts the location of the reporter, not the person they are trying to out. Look at the Area Codes and you can see too many, for a small segment. Same with some of the other towns and cities. I think this is a poorly thought out scam to try and prey on women. Whether they are really sex workers, or just some poor woman made into a victim by another individual, it is wrong. The pricks responsible for this should be flogged. A good reason to bring back corporal punishment.

Well I am kind of partial to some oldies, like The Hamster Dance, or Shutuppa You Face!

Well I must say I love all the traditional carols that sound great with a full choir, but my warped side, and eclectic tastes also have a couple of favourites The Pogues with the late Kristy McColl singing The Fairytale of New York And a new one that I think is great by the Dropkick Murphys- The Season's Upon Us

My inner trekkie says Troi or Natasha Yar from TNG. My literary side says Montana Wildhack from Slaughterhouse-5.

Actually it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be..and they reprised it on SNL at the end of the show. Actually pretty decent. Who'd a thunk it?