Kyra.Graves

but I did have a client recommend the services of French Kiss. He told me about it and said it was like a Co-op, he liked the structure and we talked a bit about it. I think it's great the way you've set it up, good luck to you! :)

I will be in town first week of Feb., if I should happen to meet this imposter I'll be sure to write a review of him. ;) Are you kidding me? :shock: *wanders off looking for a good brick wall*

Does this have to be Winnipeg specific? I've known several in larger cities but don't know any in cities with smaller populations where the demand might not be so high.

Cloe and I plan on it! :twisted: The imposter isn't using his handle but using the OP's real name and identity, he's also using the OP's personal details such as work information, educational background etc. Definitely not a lurker but rather someone in his inner circle, that's what makes this dangerous. If the information is given to a girl that is less than honest the girl would have all enough information about him to blackmail, steal his identity (cc fraud, etc.) or various other types of schemes. While most providers are discrete we really don't know what types of providers the imposter is visiting and since he's obviously not on the up and up you can't make assumptions about the type of people he's frequent.

Perhaps the OP could just blitz the Ottawa scene - see as many girls as possible in a 2-3 week period so they would all recognize him and know the real him. That way if the imposter would show up they'd know it wasn't the OP and would refuse the imposter, it would be tough work for the OP but I'm sure if he was man enough he could handle it. :twisted: Not sure he'd be alive after though. 8-) Congrats on the 200 post!

sleep has been infrequent all week, appears to be a stress reaction. Some guy was in town and chose to spend his nights with other men drinking and carousing (though he claims it was work!) rather than in bed with me... :-(. Not sure I'll recover from the trauma, I wake each night in a cold sweat. Fortunately the roomies are there to comfort me, they give me toe lickings and little snuggles until I am settled. Okay back to our original thread again, I cannot bear to talk about this trauma anymore. ;-)

It sounds like you are doing your best to keep a sense of humor and your head on straight good for you as this is a tough situation. I know I'd hate to have someone making a muck up of my stories. ;) If you haven't already done a risk assessment you should. Who are they giving this information to and what do you have to lose? What are the short term risks and what are the long term ones? How widespread is the issue? Map everything out including the people, places and things involved and put it all down in hardcopy. Sometimes seeing it in black and white and going back to it over a period of days will open your eyes to things that you would have missed just playing it over in your head. If you have a friend that you can trust (and that might be hard right now) ask them to help you finish it or you can ask others without letting them know what you are doing by asking for 'project help'. Say you are working on your annual review and need to know who is next in line for your position, who would move up, laterally, etc. outside input is always good to have. Keep looking at it and see if it helps you not only figure who is doing this but more so find out why someone is attacking you, which is what is happening. Someone in your close circle is whether they knowingly or not (sometimes those that are passive aggressive act out subconciously - under the guise of a joke, yet it's apparent to everyone else the consequences of that joke were meant to harm) is going to cause you serious harm should this continue. I'd also start contacting the agencies, MP's or indies you frequent and team up with them. This is where being a repeat client has it's advantages, if you only see someone once you might not have this option and I'm not sure what to suggest but it still might not hurt to try contacting the reputable agencies as they are generally a good place to start. Explain to them you have been the victim of identity theft and that though you often frequent their establishments yourself you'd appreciate if anyone using your name and information be verified, meaning the person is not allowed onto the premises without a callback to the number given. Leave them your name and telephone number and ask them to keep it 'on file'. Then if someone calls and leaves your name and either your number the guy will not be allowed in should he show up as he will not verify (his telephone won't verify - he'll be using your number) or his number will verify as he'll be using his own number which you will have already requested they contact you with. Be prepared to show them ID - do so, trust them as you'd not want them to hand out your information to just anyone, but this way they will probably give you his number so you can call him and find out who it is. Not all places will go along with it but one or two will probably lend a sympathetic ear and I suspect one or two independants will probably do it for some $$. The professional places will not do it for the $, a hundred dollars isn't worth their reputation so I wouldn't bother asking, they will do it for a repeat client though. Of course the other option is going to the police, it is identity theft and there is no telling what the persons intentions are right now. Sometimes it's best to have a report on file before something happens that way should it come to the attention of your employer, your SO, etc. you have already started the legal process. However... I'm assuming you already know there are downsides to going that route. Good luck and I hope you find the person.

I read these threads every so often and question why I even do this job. I do my best to mitigate my risk and hope that my clients do the same, and it disturbs me that some have so little interest in protecting my health. As an SP I do not want to see clients that engage in BBFS with anyone but their SO. I realize they have wives they most likely are fluid bonded too but to engage in BBFS with others is a greater risk than I want to take. I don't think it's fair for a client to make a judgement call that xyz SP is okay because "she only does this with me" and then to put me at risk by engaging in any services with me without letting me know about their high risk lifestyle. I do not wish to engage in BBBJ's with those clients, DATY, LFK, DFK, heck I don't even want to GAD (Greet at Door!) because it's just too risky for me. I know my fellow SP's and many are very professional and I would highly recommend them, I have even had the good fortune to work closely with a few and enjoyed every minute of it. I have also had the misfortune of meeting some that are far from professional and I would definitely not trust with my health. Sadly because we all see the same clients I am to some degree trusting them with my health, because I am trusting you the client with it. So I must trust you the client to be vigilant with using protection and that means using a condom for FS. Since the most likely way an STD is going to be transferred to a male is via intercourse, vaginal or anal, I trust that you use them in order to help to protect me. I don't trust you to use your judgement to determine which ladies are okay to use BBFS with and which are not. Not only are you at a disadvantage when trying to make a decision like that about an SP as you are looking at marketing not the actual girl, so you have no idea if she is a drug user, if she has a SO, if she leads a high risk lifestyle, etc. but plain and simple when in a state of arousal people make bad judgement calls and looking at a girls website is meant to arouse you so you. So forgive me if I don't trust your judgement and don't trust all the ladies in this industry either. Oh and to illustrate the point of why you should not trust the girls here's a little adventure I had last week. I went to the Hassle Free Clinic in Toronto for my reg. appt as that's where I get my blood work done. They have a special womens clinic hours and drop in times along with appointments for the HIV testing. I checked in for my appt. and then sat down near the sign in window. A young girl walks in and I hear her asking for a pelvic and oral swab, she thinks she has an infection. Her throat is white and more important she says it burns when she pee's and she's had some spotting. They say to take a seat and she'll be seen soon. She sits down across from me and in about 5min her phone rings, she answers the call and I don't really hear much I'm playing a game on my phone. Then I hear the words "yes it's $140 for the half" and my ears perk up, I know what that call is about. I can't help myself and I eavesdrop a bit, she actually books the call for later that night, one hour at his downtown hotel. I pretend to have not been paying attention and keep playing my game. They come in and call my name and just as I get up I grab my purse and take a good long look at her face. I smile at her and she returns the friendly smile, I have not seen her face before in person or in a picture. She is pretty and young, I have no idea who she is but I do know I hope I never meet her and that my clients do not as well. She went to work that night even though it takes a week for the STD test results and she was sure that she had contracted one. I mitigate my risk, I hope my clients do the same but I am sure many do not. It is always best to err on the side of caution and get yourself tested regularly, and encourage others to do so. Oh and please guys don't put your SP at risk either, we offer services like BBBJ's assuming that you are not engaging in BBFS with those that are high risk, if you are then by all means please let us know. I have two clients that have the courtesy to let me know they indulge in higher risk activities so we keep all things safe and despite what you may think they actually get great 'mileage'. Yes it's 100% safe (which is what they were looking for) but I trust them a great deal as they are so honest and forthcoming with me so we indulge in some very different activities that I normally would not offer as they were so forthcoming about being fluid bonded with a couple other women.

My ideal situation is a first meeting to be about 2-3hours. I really enjoy sharing some wine and getting to know someone. I also don't like to feel rushed, I enjoy the feeling of a real date where if we'd like we can sit and talk or we can speed things up, then slow it down and tease a bit, then change pace, so it goes back and forth a bit. In one hour you don't have those options and it takes some of the fun out of it. I realize that due to financial considerations many may opt for one hour appointments and that's understandable, one should not stress oneself financially for this hobby. With consecutive meetings I actually prefer them to be longer still, often then the cost per hour goes down dramatically as most girls and agencies offer package dates. It's about the freedom to move at a comfortable and natural pace, we can do what we'd like, when we'd like and how we'd like. I enjoy not having to watch the time and worrying about getting everything done. I've always found taking a nice leisurely approach to our date is fun and allows us to really enjoy all that we have to offer each other. Not every girl I know likes the longer appointments; there is a girl I know at another agency whom prefers the half hour and one hour ones. She's a great girl and is very popular however she doesn't like to sit and chat and finds that kind of interaction awkward. So the idea of spending 3 hours with one client is stressful to her. Even if you are Superman, you are going to have a bit of 'downtime' and she's going to frown on that. For her it's all about the shorter appointments, fortunately there is no shortage of men that like a lady like that, and vice versa.

Congratulations Pete you are no oridinary Yak, you are now a Yakkity Yakkity Yak!

All the best for today and of course the coming year! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeypOvsY91Q

Sent you a PM - oddly I usually know what's going on with the other Kyra's in the industry as I get a lot of messages that are intended for them as I'm sure they probably get the same. ;) Though with her not being on the boards as of late I suspect I'm getting all her mail and she's getting none of mine... lucky gal!

All the best over the holidays CK and fellow Cerbies! Have a safe and happy holiday and be sure to look out for that wall! :wink: :lol: In the old days, it was not called the Holiday Season; the Christians called it 'Christmas' and went to church; the Jews called it 'Hanukkah' and went to synagogue; the atheists went to parties and drank. People passing each other on the street would say 'Merry Christmas!' or 'Happy Hanukkah!' or (to the atheists) 'Look out for the wall!' *Dave Barry, "Christmas Shopping: A Survivor's Guide" This one is for all the boys of Cerb... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyAGHlI5qs

Mmmmm... tonight I've got a nice 2001 Chateau Brehat, Cotes De Castillon, it's a nice blend - merlot, cab franc and cab sauvignon. I had some Halloumi earlier with some greens (nice little salad actually) but it doesn't pair well with the wine so I'm going it alone on the wine which does pair well with my black lingerie and comfy cozy bedding.

You silly that's the one-eyed snake!

No. You simply are not tapped into your senses enough, you have written off your list without taking time to enjoy the items on them and seeing them through to proper completion. It's nice that you had your duo, I am sure that seemed like the goal but did you fully realize it? If I set a goal of starting my own business do you think that I've fully realized that goal the day I register my company? Or do you think that my true goal is to be sucessful in running my own corporation? Most likely it's the latter. All the time I'm asked my gentlemen that say they'd like to duo with two ladies but they have not really thought much beyond that, just that they would like a duo. That is the goal, the dream. So after a bit of prodding I tell them about a few girls I've worked with and try to see what type of fantasy they have. One lady is very sensual, loves to kiss, caress and often the gentleman will start off on the side while she and I warm up together. We are slow, sensual and romantic together. She loves to run her hands up and down me, talk in low soft tones and describe in detail every moment of our time. Eventually our male lover joins us and we all share wine, laugh and play. It's almost what you'd expect evenings would be like in early 20th century Paris, the artists and their rather taboo lovers lounging and making love at will. Laughter, love and wine make for fun evenings. Of course as we've repeated those nights we sometimes get a little wild and frisky and we continue to explore the depths of each others imaginations. Now there is another girl that I usually mention to them, she is a bit on the wild side, even that is a bit of an understatement. I tend to be a little more reserved at times so she can be a good balance for me. I have the imagination to explore and she makes it happen and of course depending on the person guest starring the night can take all kinds of twists and turns. I have to find what fantasy they are looking for and try to provide as close to that, often though they are looking for both and end up wanting to experience more. I've had many duo's with a few different ladies and I'm still finding many different opportunities within that realm. It's a journey and if you look at it that way you'll realize that none of us have done it all, we are all just beginners fumbling around in the dark. If you didn't enjoy something then by all means don't persue it but if you found something fun and enjoyable then look at all the wonderful little nuances within that and start exploring. There is a lot of pleasure to be found in this world and it's not just in scratching one more thing off the list.

Depends what you are looking for but yes it is often cheaper to bring someone with you than to pay as you go in Vegas. You have the door fee of about $200-300, that's to get her to your room then you have to negotiate the service which is often another $300-500. For girls with a name, the porn stars and such you are looking at $1k-2k an hour some will even have 2-3hour minimums. Then of course you have to remember it's illegal in Vegas so be careful, though it's not illegal to pay a girl here and take her across the border with you. A friend of mine works both cities and this topic just came up, funny how these things seem to repeat themselves. Come to think of it I'm pretty sure it was discussed on another forum as well. :? Vegas isn't cheap but the women are very pretty and the city is fun! Enjoy whatever you do. :)

Always check reviews as well and see if the reviewer has invited questions, it's not uncommon for one to close with "if you'd like further information you may PM me". Often those that do not like to post details will allow people to PM for said information, utilize that. If you are unsure then ask the reviewer in a respectful way, something like "I am still fairly new to seeing SP's and have never seen Kyra before, I enjoyed your review and am really interested in a lady that likes to xyz. I understand that YMMV applies to all situations but could you tell me in your experience if this is a possibility with her?" Of course he'll tell you to get your own girl as I'm all his ;) but still it's another way to find information. Not to mention if you discover that you and this other Cerbie have similar taste in ladies you can start watching for each others reviews as you'll now save time in finding the 'gems' as they come into town.

I'm hiding under the blankets right now, trying to keep my little toes warm in this cold winter blast. I am drinking a nice full bodied red that warms my stomach as it goes down and popping little green grapes like they are going out of style. Of course I had to get some new grapes, the previous ones were finished a week ago. ;)

LOL! Next time message me, I have some work for you to do and it doesn't involve shovelling my walk... oh wait it does, but after I promise some hot cocoa. ;)

Sorry Loneskater, I haven't had much time to post since I returned from Ottawa. Was busy getting settled back in the house and catching up with the 'real life'. ;) CSuite or CLevel is what you call CEO's, CFO's or other "C" ranked executives. When calendaring for them one tends to follow a pretty different type of booking process as they often have tight schedules and frequent changes to their calendar. They also would have specific booking preferences in regards to contact due to their various types of engagements. I sincerely doubt that the girls will improve their booking, simply because most do not have the time nor experience to be trained in it. It's not a simple skill to learn and though small improvements to the booking process could be made quite easily it also must come with the knowledge that one must accept the fact that no shows are a fact of life. I have said it before and will again it happens in every job and to everyone, we all have meetings that pop up, run late and things happen. We must all accept that it will happen from time to time, rather than getting upset about it work to minimize it, prepare for it and control what happens after the fact. To minimize it one must take control of the booking, treat each client as if they are Csuite, expect last minute changes, anticipate and confirm in the preffered manor. Take the information and ask questions. With a Csuite client one expects that they are not used to handling their own calendar so you always take control of the situation and offer to handle things for them, ask questions and manage the situation. Eg. Ask the preffered method of communication immediately, phone, text, email, etc. then ask the who what when and where of communication and get permission to do so. Find out if you should only speak to them or if they have an EA they'd like you to talk to, in the case of being an SP it's okay to deal with an EA just let them know that you will contact the EA from such and such Spa as a masseuse or as a school friend whatever they prefer. That way the EA can still update you as to schedule changes, reservation changes, etc. Then be sure to update about a half hour or so before the booking, just a friendly reminder to say, "hey looking forward to seeing you - xy" something that if someone like an EA read looks friendly and non chalant. It also gives them a reminder and a chance to say "sorry have to bail, will call you later". It's very simple and keeps the lines of communication open. You have taken charge of the booking and are still doing it withing their comfort levels. Always adjust within the clients comfort zone, and you'll find that you'll have less no shows and more repeat clients as they appreciate the extra steps you take to ensure not only is their privacy is respected but that you respect their time as well.

I know this won't be the popular view but I just don't see it as a big issue. Every business has to deal with some level of it, the difference is that at what level we tolerate it and when dealing with an SP the level of privacy that is expected doesn't allow for the details that gives most that 'acceptable range'. As far as how to avoid them, I've not really reviewed the entire Ottawa system to see who it happens to and who it doesn't but off the top of my head it seem that the traditional way of booking in Ottawa could use a revamp. If one modelled it in a way so as to assume all clients were CSuite, then you'd see a much greater flexibility and would be aware of potential conflicts before they arose. I cannot speak for everyone but I prepare for these types of issues, one should factor in a certain percentage of no show, cancellation and reschedule and block time accordingly, it's the business side that the girls need to know. :)

I don't want to comment on Alley's week as I don't know her particular situation. I will say that having my first tour here and it being Dec. (a typical 'wind down' the projects time at work) I'd say the cancellations and reschedules I had were well within reason. I still have my calendar for my 'real work' job last year, and having 20% more meetings per week for the first week of Dec. at the SP job than at the 'Real Work' job same time last year I actually had 35% more cancellations and reschedules at the 'Real Work' job last year. I personally am not at all bothered by the cancellations and reschedules, they tend to happen in the daytime, work happens and we all know that. So for me I know if I book myself heavily in the daytime during the weekdays I know that I am greatly increasing my chances of a reschedule, especially if I have not built my client relationship - since this was my first tour that's pretty hard to do. So having 3-4 cancellations in a week is well within acceptable limits. SP's work with this understanding and they schedule accordingly, we understand that our clients have other obligations and that they may on occasion may not be able to attend appointments. Like in all businesses it's not a good accounting practice to report your profits before you've actually earned them, the girls need to ensure that they do the same. ;)

Most times if you buy directly from the airline you'll end up paying less, not always but often. They don't have the service charges the brokers tack on so if you do a quick search through something like expedia to get a ballpark then go directly to the airline you can usually find the final figure to be a bit cheaper alternatively you'll find that it's comparable but with perks like flexible flight times, refundable tickets, frequent flyer programs, etc. It all depends of course on what type of traveller you are and your frequency/distance of travel. However the more you travel with one carrier the better the rate and the better your seat when you book directly with the airline, so it does pay to establish that relationship early. Good luck!

Why thank you kind sir. *Miss Kyra curtsies blushes with a lady like grace. :oops: